This strongly reminds me of my first steel hardtail MTB in the early 90‘s (except for the cycling handlebars). But also with straight fork...funny. It’s like with fashion...everything comes back after about 30 years. It was fun back then, it is still fun today!

A less aggressive but still high volume 650b tire, like a WTB Byway/Venture or a Panaracer GravelKing SK, is a perfect medium between the two extremes you focused on in this video. Higher volume for capability, comfort, and flat resistance, but less tread for better rolling resistance on pavement. I do find that while 650b wheels do feel like they don't carry speed as well on pavement and you have to work a bit harder to maintain speed, I have no problem keeping up with buddies of similar fitness on 700c setups. So basically they're faster than they feel, and that's good enough for me!

Big Tires = Big Fun. My bikey buds and I do these "inappropriate bike rides" where we ride our local singletrack on gravel or cx bikes...little did they know that I would show up on my Salsa Journeyman rocking 27.5 x 2.2 (at ~20psi) ... needless to say, I had a blast. Can't wait to see this Poseidon in person.

Compare the 650b to one of your 26er dropbar conversion. Would make an interesting episode.

1:50 I was gonna report you to the UCI for illegal sock height, but then I noticed the tattoo on your calf 😃. Good vid, "2 650b or not 650b that is the question" 👍👍🇬🇧

I like 650Bs for snow riding since the lower center of gravity increases stability in slick conditions. Also I just like having huge looking tires on my drop bar bikes. Makes them look moto :D

First: You should go Bikepacking with this...Second: If they fit, Conti Race King 2.2 Protection is the Way to go ! Super fast even on the Road and grippy enough for your kind of Terrain.

Great video... I am anxiously waiting for you to start tinkering with it! Poseidon picked a good brand ambassador... I purchased an “X” and now I want a “Redwood”

It looks great. You showed us it has plenty of capabilities. Tires are a personal tailored thing. So from 559 we go to 584 looks great. Go to 622? The bike would really loose something. It's a monster truck bike indeed. It's a production run of what you build out of 26ers 559 . Guessing that's why they choose Spindatt! They've been watching you! Great work on both fronts.

Picked up a Redwood today. You influenced me darn it!

My GF says "that is a great color on you!" and I agree

GREAT video as always. Man the Redwood looks so SWEET.

Anyone else giggle every time the "Subscribe or I will... " line comes up?

I just got my first gravel bike. Went with 700c instead of 650b. My frame can go to 51mm vs the 650b frame can take 54mm. I ride 38mm tubeless and it's been good to me on the road, single track, and dirt roads.

I'm staying at my Aunts second house, the local bike shop is called SpinDrift.

#gravelcasual FTW!

Good video very unbiased opinion from a multidiscipline rider of all bike types keep the good content coming... 👍

700, 650b, 29, 27.5 can the industry just pick one unit for measurements?

My thoughts are that if you are purchasing this bike, you are not going to go all that fast. You're not going to go join a crit and race with this 28lb+ bike. It's made for bikepacking single track and gravel. The manufacturer states that it can be upgraded to fit a 29×2.3 inch tire and wheel set. The X comes with a 700c×40 basically can fit up to a 45 or a 1.7 inch wide tire. With the Redwood you can fit a 700c×58 or up to a 2.3 inch wide tire. They are both different rides. One is more for offroad single track and gravel(Redwood) and the other is leaning toward gravel and on road use. But the Redwood can be made more road worthy with a 29er wheel and tire combination whereas the X isnt really going to be able to be set up with a 650b wheel and tire combination to make it more single track capable. So I chose the Redwood simply for that fact. But hell, with the pricing of these bikes, you could buy both and N+1 just to get you that one more bike. $1,800.00 = two bikes that are both capable machines for different settings. I spent 3 times as much for a road bike back in 2011 that wasnt nearly as capable as either of these and I spent 4 times as much for a mountain bike in 2018 that isnt very good on the road at all. So I think I will be very pleased with my Poseidon Redwood purchase.

Unless you're going through mostly muddy trails, you could try a slightly less aggressive tread, i.e. the GravelKing SK in 650x48 or something like the Maxxis Pace or Continental RaceKing in 27,5x2.0". Personally, and for my area, the 650x45-50 drop bar Kona Sutra is the ultimate do-it-all bike.

Hope the new title system brings more views! I liked both but want you to get your shine for your awesome vids! Cheers from Minneapolis!

Got a serious dilemma. Love the looks of the redwood but want a more supposed mannered road ride of the X. Can the redwood deliver this?

I have a total noob question. Why do we call 27.5 wheels 650b and vice versa??

I have a medium poseidon x with 650bx38 panaracer gravelkings on praxis Al 24 rims. It's a light/sturdy/nimble city rider that can handle dry dirt trails. I preferred the same size schwalbe g1's but they seemed to get punctures on any surface when you go over 25mph.

I can't wait to see you make this bike your own

Pressure makes a difference on the road. @1:48 I can see how low the pressure is.

Would deffo have had a higher pressure then drop it once you arrived at the gravel...

There’s a lot of tread on that, I wonder how you’d like some smoother 650b tires

Hi. Can you measure the real dia of those wheels+tires and compare to 700? I think it will be smaller just by few mils. For me the biggest downside of 27.5” is lack of gravel tires as this is MTB standard and mostly tires are with muddy tread not a gravel. But volume doing the job and I love it.

Soooo, its a drop bar XC MTB? at this stage I really struggle to see the difference between gravel and a rigid forked MTB.

Would you consider doing that again with a Gravel King and treating it more like a road bike hitting some gravel section?

I don’t get it. With tyres that big, why not just ride the hard tail XC mtb.

Love the music at 4:05

bike looks rad as hell

Channeling my inner Russ Rochea...love it!

Which tires are those? I've got the WTB Nano 2.1 and have been really happy so far especially on the roads. Sweet ride👍

I love that color in red series components

Another entertaining, but honest video. Thanks! Now that you are channeling your inner Russ, you have to do a full outfit review....

i am not sure i get it. i mean its a cool looking bike asthetically but it seems too mtb for a gravel. surely the point of a gravel is that you can ride to the gravel fairly efficiently? i dont see how those tyres give you that?

Man you are reading my mind lately as I have been thinking of getting a new set of wheels to replace the stock X wheels. Curious, what do you think of the advent X? I find it mechanical yet precise but I still want to replace it wit a SRAM Rival 1 set up, but that’s mostly due to the brakes lol

Thanks for another excellent video 🍻 I’d like to second someone else’s question/request, what is the height difference from the 650b setup to the 700x45? I currently have run a 700x42 and ride 75% paved roads but I have a lot of potholes, uneven grass and occasionally hit a curb here and there and would like more volume but I don’t want to loose much ride height. Thanks in advance and tell Angela, Russ and Mike Drop hello!

The X is a real gravel bike that can keep up with road bikes. This is just some off road tourer

I thought there were killer bees after you with that tire noise.

Hi. I bought a Redwood and then ordered a 29er wheelset for it for roads only. Hoping the larger wheels with some low resistance tires helps me on days when I ride with friends. Think it will help?

How about keeping the knobby on the front and putting a slicker, maybe narrower, tyre in back? I've always found that there's a lot more rolling resistance from the back than the front, probaly because behind is where most of the weight is. What about rear traction? Just deal with it on the rare occasions when it's an issue, encouraged by the fact that for the 99% of the time when it's not an issue, you're blitzing the gravel.

how soon are you going to cut that extra portion of your steerer tube? (lol)

Bike looks like a lot of fun 😎😎😎

How hard is it to go to drop bar from flat bar what would be needed I got my first road bike and I love it but it feels fragile carbon fiber I'm all thinking its going to break or I'm going too fast

How does it compare to your other drop bar mountain bike?

What shorts do you use ? Or wear ?

Hate to be 'that guy', but is recording yourself while riding on the road not both extremely dangerous and illegal?

When are they going to release this beast?

What is the crank length on your large size Reswood?

Big tires aren’t slower, hard rubber is slower. Put some sUpPlLe lightweight thicc boii slick tyres on there at a low pressure and you’ll be as fast as 28s but with more grip and comfort

Nice video is that bike completely steel? and what type? and how much does it weigh ?

Well, one other thing we know is that if you want your bars slammed (as all right thinking people should) UR gonna have to take a hacksaw to that chimney.

Looked on the site and the bikes aren’t available in Canada it seems? Was going to order one but it won’t allow me to use any other address but one in the United States.....

Hey Eric! How was the toe overlap on the redwood?

Can you put 26 inch tires on 650b rim?

Where could I buy one??

Where was the single track you were riding? Is that Spider Lake? Looks fun.

Welcome to the #supplelife

You said you were able to fit 45s on your X. Which model tires are those?

This is where gravel bikes don't make sense to me. If your riding stuff that really requires that much tire a drop bar bike is not the weapon of choice. Sure it looks cool and might be fun at first but with zero suspension and a position meant for smooth roads I think the novelty, unless you're a true sadist, wears off pretty quick. At least, I assume, the Poseidon will be somewhat cost efficient.

Steerer tube needs to be cut. 😁 That bike looks beautiful. 😍

You didn't jump over any logs, hop over a stump or wheelies? Put a flat bar on that thing and you will have mt bike?

Can you put 29in tires on that bike?

Hey - I digress, but have you seen Cycling Tips are hiring a "apprentice" tech editor - journalism degree/experience not req'd, bike shop experience, bulletin detector and vlog/podcast experience more highly valued. Drop them a line!

how's that microshift treating you?

Gluing them shut is much kinder than glueing them open 😀

Could you try the same loop using 700c wheels?

LOL - I have a Poseidon X with 650b (27.5 x 1.75 to be exact) - the bike can run 700c OR 650b yaknow ? you have a Poseidon X as well - right ?! - and it only dawned on you now - that gravel/ adventure/ cyclocross bikes running 650b, with wider tiress, is a thing ?? how ?

that's wider than my MTB tires.

Is the fork Aluminum or Carbon Fiber?

Look's sweet n' solid...nice !

I enjoy looking at monster cross bikes but I dislike riding them to monster cross.

I thought is said 650 lbs.

650 b Awesome..

I don't "need" it, but I want it

Start responding to more of your followers comments or we will come over and pull your pants down while you are making a video .... ha ha! What 700 size is equivalent to the 650b size you are riding?

your shirt buttons look like they are bursting at the seams. Do we need to tart a GoFundMe for a shirt that actually fits you?? Lol

Just get a mtb bike with suspension!

Please add some sound deadening in your shed, at least create a talking head section of the shed. You been in the game long enough, these audio issue should be gone. Sorry just giving you a hard time.

First! :D

that bike is too compromised, not excelling in any area, way too slow on the road and barely capable on mundane xc trail

that is a bad bike company, their bikes are all made in CHINA including all the parts. STAY away from cheap bikes like these. so many are regretting buying this