Please check out Will's vocal playthrough on his own YT channel, you'll get to hear his voice so much more!

About the lyrics: I listen to harsh vocals like they’re another instrument on initial listens of songs, later I look up the lyrics and it adds another layer when listening again.

Will is a big fan of opera and is just a golden retriever of a human being who just happens to be able to sing like a demon lol.

Even an opera singer gets the stank face and the head bob when that chorus hits 😂😂😂

Austin Archey is a legend of a drummer in this genre. a goddamn machine

peter: listens to 'to the hellfire' also peter: this guy was at my opera last night i know, i know, but it's still funny lol

Also, you need to see/listen to the Pain Remains trilogy!! It’s a bit softer, some describing it as ‘symphonic death core’…. It’s absolutely gut wrenchingly beautiful!

"This song has so many lyrics" someone hasn't heard SUN//EATER yet.

Go check out The Charismatic Voice, Elizabeth has several videos with Will including her famous throat camera video where she actually put a camera down Will's throat and showed how the vocal folds acted with different forms of his harsh vocals.

You should listen to one of the Sleep Token covers he does. His clean vocals are really good as well.

Watch the One Take Playthrough of this where You can study all his vocal artistics! ♥

Ok, for some really good clean singing, see Will Ramos cover of Sleep Tokens: Choke Hold

You gotta see Will's one take vocal of this song. It is absolutely amazing.

With all these opera singers getting into deathcore I'm stoked for the dawn of operacore in 2030, Also loving these reactions / analysis videos, great content!

You absolutely get adjusted to the sound of these types of growls with exposure. You start to pick up certain consonant sounds and can dissect the lyrics from them easily enough. I hear this like plain English now - but it also helps that I can do what Will's doing (less professionally of course LOL) Also a note on the genre having abrupt shifts, you should get into some prog metal. Something like Periphery would be a great addition to your channel.

I heard a pretty interesting analogy in terms of why metalheads have zero issue not being able to understand the lyrics or veery loosely follow along : "When we hear a singer performing in another language than our own, we tend to not really care as much about understanding the words at that moment but rather try to understand the passion in the voice and the technique. In the same sense, we try to do the same with harsh vocals. We might not be able to understand the lyrics well, but goddamn are the vocal techniques that keep getting either invented or put a spin on is fascinating, and the passion behind what they do." Another quote I liked, came across it not too long ago : If we have genres of music like we do movies, why can't there be a horror genre? That's what the really heavy metal portrays to me. You have singers that sound like goblins, zombies, demons, eldritch abominations. Sounds like horror to me"

I'm expecting you to go down the rabbit hole as quickly as Elizabeth did and, in the process, she and Will became besties

As a vocalist you absolutely have to listen to one of his vocal play throughs on his channel and hear him singing unedited!

So excited to see this!! As for lyrics, I definitely pull them up for a first-time listen. And maybe a couple after that 😅 but I’ve found the more I listen to a particular vocalist, the easier it gets to parse out what they’re saying because my ear just gets used to it. Looking at the lyrics definitely helps though!

Lyrics: You develop the ability to understand it, for the most part. I check lyrics for things I don't catch, and by the time you're at a show, you're singing along.

Will is wild. Have to recommend any of his vocal one takes. My personal favorites being for Of The Abyss, and Sun // Eater

You should watch the video where Elisabeth stuck an endoscope down Will's throat while he did these vocals (well, not her personaly... a doctor but you get the idea lol). It's fascinating!!

This reaction was awesome! Usually when a person who doesn’t listen to metal would react to a song like this they kind of dismiss it or don’t appreciate it, but because you understand the skill and insanity of a vocal performance like will’s, it blew your mind. Super awesome!

YESS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR WILL RAMOS ON HEREEE, his one takes on his youtube channel are AMAZING especially for breaking down the vocal techniques!

Will is the nicest and most energetic person. This song was the first they released with Will as vocalist and basically was a showcase of everything he can do (the band too, all the members are amazing).

When i was a teenager i fell in love with death metal , im 50 now n i am loving all the new varients of death metal and to answer ur question on hearing lyrics u get used to how the singers sing the words, it does vary from singer to singer, but on the whole u can pick up key words usually in the chorus's 🤘🏼🖤🤘🏼

I am a metalhead who found Elizabeth channel shortly before I found Lorna Shore. Then they did vids together and I rejoiced (in the coming oblivion) that metal was getting time in the sun. So many talents artists to find! Hurray Will Ramos!

His cover of chokehold is super clean, and was like wow will actually CAN sing 🤣🤣 all his one takes too show off his abilities super well. His pain remains trilogy of like a deathcore ballot

Thanks! Will has also made a one take vocal performance of this very song, where you can see his face making all the sounds clearly and witness how he does not need fancy editing and layering to be a beast. For reactions I might suggest Will Ramos doing vocal cover of Sleep Token: Chokehold. There you can hear his gorgeous cleans and get an idea about what his singing voice sounds like. Some screams, too, to showcase the smooth transitions. When it comes to metal lyrics, the long standing tradition has been to sit down with a new album with lyrics leaflet in your hand for couple of first listens so you learn to follow the lyrics. This was done already on era with lot less distorted lyrics, and it still works.

This is great! Can't wait for the: "human scream or animal noise?" gameshow 😂😅🤣

terminology of death core vocals is like terminology of skateboard tricks.

As everyone else has suggested, the one-take vocal playthrough of this song on Will's channel will blow you away even more!

You definitely become accustomed to the style of singing where you start understanding it faster the more you listen to this type of music

I can never get enough of these reaction videos of extreme metal and harsh vocals. Both because of the shock factor and because of how interesting it is to hear someone trying to explain how they are made. For me regarding listening to music I kind of rarely listen to the lyrics, or even look them up. I know I often miss out a lot but I've always just accepted the vocals as "just" another instrument. I remember once when I looked up the lyrics to a metal song I got disappointed and since then I've kind of avoided it. I most likely have a bunch of diagnoses, whereas ADHD is one of them, so I easily get overload if there's too many impressions. Most people gets over exited by this kind of music but for me it's kind of more relaxing, I know it sounds odd but the only way I can explain it is that it must be a combination of my ADHD and that I have blood type A that naturally has a higher level of cortisol, which is a stress hormone. I work my best when I can have a wall of sound around me, so I can focus on what I want to do. That's when I thrive! Something else I've noticed with myself is that I am drawn to music with odd time signatures and seemingly irregular tempo. I don't know why. You are totally right about the drummer (all of the band members are of course very talented). But check out one of the videos where he plays one of their songs on Meinl cymbals. He is not even having his eyes open during the fastest parts, but when he plays the slow parts he does. This video perfectly shows that with the commentary of another drummer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5aEmZOXx5jYdGQ.htmlsi=aoDbCxPXJI9MD2b0 Btw, this is Symphonic Deathcore so you are right about the strings other than guitars. I am also impressed that you got deathcore right, because many don't. A hallmark for deathcore music is the breakdowns. Another band that is starting to get more attention, and rightfully so is Mental Cruelty. The music videos for Lorna Shore and Mental Cruelty's videos are directed by the same dude so you'll see some similarities. I'd totally love to see you, Elizabeth and Will do a reaction together to one of Mental Cruelty's songs from the last album Zwielicht. Even tough I love Will Ramos and Lorna Shore, I am a bit more infatuated in Mental Cruelty because they are taking a bit darker approach since they with the last album started to implement black metal to their music. So it's now Symphonic Blackened Deathcore. I guess some of the reason for why I like them so much, besides the before mentioned, is that I have my roots in Germany but I am from Sweden. Btw, you do know there is a harsh vocalist that also is named Barber right? Tom Barber, an obvious check out!

I like how will and Elizabeth just ended up best friends 🤣🤣🤣

You’ve got to watch a drum play through of this song, he is as cool as a cucumber, I’ve never seen deathcore drummer look more like a swan. Graceful on top, legs kicking like crazy!!

I love the connection you made with kpop. Reasons I don’t like typical pop music, but k-pop/pop and metalcore/deathcore.

This song was my introduction to the Death Metal scene, and I was definitely expecting you to be very shocked when you started listening to this 😆. It's not an easy song to listen to because we can't hear the lyrics very well, and there's a LOT going on instrumentally, but I think that's what is making Lorna Shore stand out among the other death metal bands. Elizabeth and Will had said that he uses his false vocal cords to create the sounds that he uses while singing, and that he does it healthily with very little formal training (I think?? It's been a while since I've seen those videos), is a very rare talent among singers who use harsh vocal techniques. Thanks for taking the time to create and post this video Peter!! Greatly appreciate it!

After your video for Alex and Slaughter to Prevail, I was wondering how long it would take for you to look into Will and Lorna Shore. Excited about this one!

Wow you just met two KZfaq/musical LEGENDS and barely even realised xD I love it

Even if it's on your own time, check out the one take playthrough of this song from Will. It's on his YT channel. It's crazy to see how casual and relaxed he is when doing these crazy harsh vocals. He also has done vocal playthroughs with clean singing as well. I recommend his cover of Sleep Token's "Hypnosis" for that.

check out Into The Earth. I think that songs breakdowns showcase how filthy Will's lows really are. and of course the emotional ride of the Pain Remains trilogy.

Absolutely love the stank face Peter, lol.

The playthroughs are a must really.

So great to have a genuine, and insightful reaction to this track and not just people pulling faces. Great stuff! Really appreciated you breaking down various elements; not just the vocals.

Came for the reaction to the pig squeals, stayed for the awesome commentary

Love when people have open minds towards new music. Great video🙂

As it seems you really like the drumming, you should check out the drum playthroughs by both Lorna shore and slaughter to prevail! Just insane to see how fast they play

I love these videos. There's always something that I've never noticed before and it makes for a really cool experience

28:00 the only parallel with Hollywood are voice actors like Dee Bradley Baker who do A LOT of animal/creature/monster work for animation and video games. Worth checking out for sure because the talent is just as crazy. You've probably seen about 20 things Dee Bradley Baker has done voice work on without knowing it.

Is the Will Ramos -> Sleep Tokan pipeline about to happen to Peter as well?? Hahaha great reaction If you want to hear Will’s singing voice, either of his Sleep Token covers are great. He stays true to the originals, with some added Will flair lol. Also, Sleep Token is another band that has crazy transitions section to section sometimes. They’re well known for being whatever genre they want to be and it’s always fun seeing people react to them for the first time. The Summoning and Take Me Back To Eden seem to be a lot of people’s starting points. If you like soulful vocals, you could do something like Bloodsport (from the room below) which is just Vessel (the singer) and piano, or maybe The Apparition or Rain which are two of my favorites right now. Lots to choose from but The Summoning and TMBTE are good introductions to their sound and Bloodsport is great for hearing the emotion he can get out of his voice. Rain is just a fun song to try to sing along to for me, with some vocal range in it.

You mentioned percussion. Lorna Shore's drummer, Austin Archey, also has one take playthroughs. He looks like he is in a place of perfect Zen, while destroying with technical perfection.

@PeterBarber Baritone here. Warmed up properly, I can hit Peter Steele bass rumble LOW B4, all the way up to lower Alto. You want a real interesting voice to listen to, Dani Filth from Cradle to Filth. He goes even higher. BTW, I love the Jargon. I'm one of the viewers that understand all of it. Yeah, most "low" growls are not really that low. The Charismatic Voice talks to him all the time. Also, they actually stuck a camera down his throat to show what's happening when he does this kind of thing.

Will ❤ Saw them live last summer, they're great live too. 1 checked out from bucket list 😂 Tell me, have you seen a video where Elisabeth (Charismatic Voice) puts a camera in Will's throat and he does all his "sounds"? And if you're interested in different growls/growlers, you should check out Tomi Joutsen (Amorphis). There is a voice I would happily wake up to 😊 "The Bee" is nice or "Dark Waters". 2-in-1 would be "Amongst Stars" (with Anneke van Giersbergen)

Will and Alex are amazing. There's a lot of talent in the metal genre, both men and women.

Damn! I knew Will could do some freaky stuff but wow, that was amazing😲 Thanks for the analysis, Peter✨🎶

Will's one take Lorna Shore videos on his channel. Also his one take Sleep Token covers for some clean singing by Will.

Ive never heard a better explination of the sounds, you made it second nature for me to understand.

The vocals in Suneater are even more incredible than Into the Hellfire, if you're looking for another Lorna Shore song to dig into I'd recommend that. You get used to harsh vocals, definitely, and Will's enunciation is actually really well thought out and clear. Not gonna lie though I definitely check lyrics the first couple times I listen to a song, and I can't focus on lyrics while also paying attention to the other instruments until I get used to a song - so I'll listen for vocals on one playthrough, then guitars, then drums, etc

Deathcore lover for like 2-3 years now here, the way I attempt to understand the lyrics is basically how you explained it, through exposure but it's still very difficult at times. I don't think any deathcore fan fully understands the lyrics half the time lmao

Funny thing about your comment toward the end about deathcore vocalists being picked up by producers for horror movie sound effects, Dickie Allen from Infant Annihilator said that he was originally training to be a monster/creature voice actor before he became a deathcore vocalist.

I was watching your analysis and breakdown on Gigi's cover of Unholy, you mentioned that you like dark gritty stuff so here's a new rabbit hole for you to dive into-Ado. I reccomend going for 1) Usseewa 2) Unravel 3) Crime and Punishment 4) Tot Musica Any of those. Your videos are amazing, as always.

You explaining focused vs panno vocal tracks at the end there had me listening to the whole song again in a different way. Thank you.

i saw the name "Barber" and i was like, wait their old singer was barber, but was it Peter? no, it was Tom :D

When I was first getting into metal, i started with the ole death metal, and when i could understand cannibal corpse, everything became easier to understand. That said, I love Will's vocals because when you're a bit familiar, you can understand everything. Same with Tatiana with Jinjer. They both really focus on enunciation especially in their growls so that their lyrics are heard and understood. Love your reaction!

THIS FILLED ME WITH PURE CONCENTRATED JOY! I loved your analysis of his voice and how you'd just every now and then go, "Will is a beast...., but check the drums" *machine gun sounds* *peter stank face* "anyway...."

Omg I'm so glad you see that similarity between kpop and metal! My 2 fav genres lol most people think they couldn't be more opposite but ive always thought they had similarities with the like organized chaos and huge sound switches and stuff.

Woahhh that was cool how you played the audio in the left and right ear when you were explaining it haha

You definitely learn to get the lyrics on the first try when you’ve been listening to harsh vocals for a long time. Almost like a dialect. Btw, Dicodec is a guy who “deconstructs” the song using software to show how it’s made!

@7:27 omg that face is the epitome of first ramos reaction ahahhaha. love the videos peter

Absolutely listen to his one take of this song to really get his harsh ranges. It is bonkers.

Please listen to the pain still remains trilogy. Still the only metal song that makes me cry. It is so powerful and so beautiful at the same time .

I hope Will sees this video because we know he's hyped about Opera and I bet he'd love to do a video with Peter !

you can see Will's technical prowess in his one takes and would love to see you react to this song on the one take!!

Now you need to check out Dickie from Infant Annihilator. He's Will's biggest example, the 'snarl' in the end is actually a shoutout/reference to Dickie he invented it.

Please tell me I'm not the only one hearing Dies Irae at the end of that solo! Reactors never seem to comment on it but I think it's such a cool nod

Will seems like an absolute sweetheart to top it all off. Absolutely monstrous vocals though haha. I would personally recommend Sun/eater for the next reaction! There are some ridicoulously high vocals in that one, aswell as some other vocal styles. Super enjoyable reaction and breakdown. Take care, friend!

Wow. Definitely not something I'll listen to again but I loved the breakdown of how the vocals are accomplished! Awesome job, as always!

Will has covered a number of songs using mostly his cleans (his covers of Sleep Token). Always enjoy your reactions! Oh and Austin Archey’s drum play throughs are great. He is a phenomenal drummer

Charismatic voice put camera in his throat. He is a vocal beast

Hey man, life long death metal head here. I figure out lyrics the same way, by reading along, if I'm curious. I listen to death metal so often the vocals are more like another instrument, part of the greater sound scape. Cheers for diving in deep metal is fun!

as a metal kpop stan i’ve raved about the comparisons myself before bahaha i was pleasantly surprised when you mentioned that here

The fact this guy had a camera down his throat and professional throat specialists couldn’t even explain how will makes some of the noises he does!

Watch his “Into The Earth” vocal play through. Absolutely insane!

I don’t know which is better, this analysis or learning that Will is casually going to Opera shows 😅. His cleans absolutely took me when I first heard Hypnosis. I believe that came out shortly after this beast of a song, and I couldn't process the fact that they were the same person.

I go to rock/metal festivals every year. There is definitely a spectrum of how heavy the music is depending on the lineup. Being a metal fan, I am actually just recently getting into deathcore because I am experiencing it live. On a wim last year at a festival, I decided to head over to the second stage because I heard a man with a Russian accent, and I was intrigued. 👀 I walked up to Slaughter To Prevail in just enough time to see Alex showcase his ability to project his vocals without a microphone!!!! 🤯 I also saw him split his head open with a microphone, but I digress. It's about the energy and how the vocals and rhythm mesh together and make it impossible not to move to the music. My first time reaction (live!) to Slaughter To Prevail felt electrifying. You just allow the artists to take you on a ride, if that makes sense.

Brilliant editing on that left ear right ear part 👏 👌

Funny you brought up the voice acting. Dickie Allen from Infant Annihilator wanted to be a voice actor for Hollywood and that’s why he sharpened his craft so well. He ended up recording vocals on in these types of bands to make ends meet. He is now one of the most prolific metal vocalist of all time. Check him out.

That ending, I remember a redhead saying "it's not just on the exhale, it's on the inhale too.". I'd recommend paleface swiss for interesting harsh vocal technique's.

I like how you panned the sound from left to right as you were explaining it. Nice one.. 🙂

Thought I was having an aneurysm when you did the left to right audio thing 😂

You should check out his beautiful cleans. My Favs are his chokehold cover and dancing in the dark cover. Its mind blowing how talented this man is! If you didn't know it was him, you would think it's a different person entirely.

When you were preparing me about the wild connection and then mentioning K-Pop, I instantly was like "oh yeah! I get you! I totally see it!"

I always tell people that Deathcore singing is like a dialect. The more you hear it, the easier it gets to understand what the vocalist is singing. This also depends, for me personally, I'm used to hearing Will, Tati, Alex and others, so I got used to the sounds and can generally understand them, on any track. But when I hear a new band, it takes a couple of listens and looking up the lyrics to associate the sounds they make and their style, to the words they project. And also with Will, I can understand his lows easier than when he does his highs. Thats just me personally. I dont know if its the same for others. Great videos, hope you get Will for a interview.

You can definitely begin to understand these vocals. I have trouble now, with clean vocals. It takes me two or three times over to get what I'm hearing, usually the first time is all I need with the heavy stuff. The heavier the better. The raw emotion and power in the music, lyrics, vocals, just so good.

I think you should check out Electric Callboy. They are a good mix of both harsh and clean vocals, considering that they have two singers in the band.

As to your comment about wanting to hear Will's clean, I would highly recommend Will's vocal cover of "Chokehold" by Sleep Token. He actually has beautiful cleans and really shows more of his range in that song and it's a quality cover. Edit: that left ear right ear sound edit you did at the end when you were talking about it was trippy and I approve.

The Pain Remains 1 is well worth a look into, such a good song by them. They put everything they could into it and it is such an epic 3 part song. Part 1 is such an experience.

"Bad Peter" so funny😂😂😂

16:58: it's even more impressive than that. Because double kicks doesn't mean that every time you hit it happens twice, it just means that you have a second pedal so you can use both of your feet, which is really hard to control specially at those speeds, and it's already pretty damn hard to get there in the first place