Biggest disappointment in these movies was the way they handled Cyclops. Making the leader of the team a background character. Same with Storm

Jenn: “He’s ok, right? It looks like parts of him are being disintegrated.” Holden: 😁

Seeing Holden struggle not to make unappropriate jokes will never not be funny

This movie is rough, but Magneto's line, "Charles Xavier did more for mutant kind than you will ever know," makes it sort of worth watching. Glad it resonated with you guys too, it's my favorite Magneto line in all three of these.

Technically the post credits scene does go somewhere. In the end of The Wolverine, he goes home and gets stopped by a now alive Prof X and a repowered up Magneto. It does then lead to a time skip following X men Days of Future Past.

In regards to the post-credits scene, that isn't just "some guy in a coma" - that's the Professor's vegetative twin brother, and Moira McTaggart caring for him.

The pain in Holden’s face holding back after “Shes got to have sucked the life outta him by now” 8:26 has me crying 😂

Bobby to Rogue at the end: “You’re not one of us anymore”.

4:20 I like how Jen isn’t even annoyed about the dirty joke, she’s just more like *“that doesn’t even make sense…”*

With Jen wondering about why Logan didn't use the cure on Jean. She literally disintegrated a bunch of people and things, and she was going to kill everyone. How in the span of 5 seconds was Logan gonna find a random cure that wasn't used already?

I think the reason they did not show Scott Summers die, because they wanted to have the dramatic effect of seeing Xavier being disintegrated

Jean's powers getting boosted is actually suggested and hinted at very subtlety in the first film. When Magneto uses Rogue to power the machine, the wave washes over everyone, and when they destroy the machine, Jean has a very clear reaction to it. It's one shot, no dialogue, but it's RIGHT there. The machine that unleashed the X-gene in regular humans did something to her, too. That's why the second movie opens with her talking about losing control of her abilities, no longer being able to filter the mental noise, etc. Bryan Singer (along with Tom DeSanto and David Hayter) knew exactly what they were doing with that one single shot.

"Mystique is probably my favorite character" - words that have never been spoken about Rebecca Romijn's portrayal until now. It will be interesting to see what Jen thinks of Jennifer Lawrence. I thought she was pretty good in First Class and DOFP, but because she is JENNIFER LAWRENCE they gave her too much to do in Apocalypse (which wasn't really the problem with that movie).

"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you will ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live."

The one thing that this movie is incredible at is giving us that moral dilemma, bringing up thoughts and issues that rival the original X-Men animated show. The later films don't do that at all and without that gravity, stake and feel that the original trilogy had, certain modern X-Men films simply don't hit the mark.

Love Jen’s reactions. Both to the films and to Holden. Anytime she throws out an HTH cracks me up. I think that usually comes after some of Holden’s best lines. And Holden is most of us watching these movies.

I agree my man Scott got the short end of the stick. He's one of the founding members of the X-Men in the comics, and plays a pivotal role in their story...in these movies he's relegated mostly to the role of plot device romantic interest. Jean's death was also pretty lame, I think any of the ideas you folks presented would have been better

Cyclops is one of my favorite characters of all-time so I'm glad Jen noticed how they wasted him in this trilogy, especially since I think James Marsden was perfectly casted.

Holden just belittling Pyro the whole time is the best. "yeah. ok, pYrO."

I think it's insinuated that Jean using Cerebro in the first movie undid some of the mental blocks Prof. Xavier had put in place to contain her powers which is why they seem to grow rapidly.

If they haven't seen The Boys on Amazon prime I would really like to get their take on it. That would be Hilarious to see. That definitely needs to happen someday soon.

The golden gate bridge is around 900,000 tons with each anchorage being around 60,000 tons. I wasn't paying attention to how much of it that Magneto lifted (we'd also have to accound for things on the bridge too).

From what I remember and someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the reason Prof X is in The Wolverine and Days of Future Past which take place after X3 is because of this end credit scene. The body he uses in those is the one he entered into here. I'm not sure they ever explain it but if you look close I think it's suppose to be a twin brother you never see elsewhere who is in a coma. Not sure why he would be bald too though.

They did do something with the post credit scene though...the wolverine/the wolverine post credit scene and x-men days of future past are all part of the same continuity as the original trilogy. That's why at the end of the wolverine Logan is surprised to see magneto using his powers again and that Charles is alive too. That coma patient at the end of the last stand is supposed to be X-aviers twin, which is canon from the comics except his twin is a female in the comics.

“Please if she saw you choking she’d be having a party” I swear Holdens beef with his dogs is unmatched lmao

I think Wolverine(2013) movie is kind of a must in this marathon, between First Class and DOFP. With Logan having all those PTSD dreams(with Jean's actress Famke Jansen reprising the role) and that post credits scene setting up the plot of DOFP.

I wish this film had kept alot of the deleted scenes or planned sequences that were in the novel. The original scene with Phoenix turning the cure gun or a cup into some energy bomb and scaring the shit out of Magneto and the other Mutants in the forest was alot more powerful then what we got. Or Colossus trying to stop Juggernaut from entering the building and actually holding him back for a few seconds before being knocked aside or Colossus attacking Magneto and then turning his powers off to attack him normally so Magneto wouldn't be able to hold him but getting jumped by various enemies and having to power up to defend himself only for Magneto to hurl him away from him. Or Bobby picking up a knocked out Pyro and taking him back to the school at the end. And the supposed rumoured original end credits with one being a Red Beam coming out the Lake signifying that Cyclops wasn't dead and the Mansion shaking and a close up of Jean's grave being shown where there's now a giant crator signifying that she resurrected and is also alive. Im sure there's more character stuff that got cut but overall, I'd say The Last Stand is better than the Dark Phoenix movie we got. It generally has some decent scenes. The actor playing Beast is great. Ellen Page as Kitty is great. The final battle is fun and Magneto actually showcases alot more of how powerful he really is in this film. The House Battle between Xavier and Phoenix. Wolverine in the Forest. Alot of good stuff that's sadly bogged by rushed elements and underdeveloped characters like Rogue just being neglacted to a small role, Angel being forced into it, Mystic being utterly wasted and Cyclops getting killed off so early on. But honestly, it isn't as terrible as I remember. Just not that good when compared to what X-Men 2 did.

Jean/The Phoenix was not about to let Wolverine find a needle in the chaos and destruction, let him walk up and "cure" her. One thing the film did well was highlight Jean's descent from being shaken up about killing to the wanton murder at the end. She wasn't going to stop or let anyone get close with the "cure."

I’m pretty sure Jean disintegrated everything Logan would have been holding. That’s why he didn’t use the cure on her.

One thing I love about this move is the change from Jean asking Logan to kill her when phoenix first emerges to her asking him to save her by killing her in the final fight

40:08 "They couldn't give her a stronger name?" Kitty Pryde. Sprite/Ariel/Shadowcat. Katya/Katherine/Kate. She went from the youngest of the second class of X-Men to Excalibur to headmistress of the Jean Grey School For Gifted Youngsters to Captain of the Marauders.

No way Wolverine could get a vile of the cure anywhere near the Dark Phoenix without it exploding nor did he have time to find one. He really had no choice but to take her out with the claws immediately as she was straight up murdering everyone on the island before his eyes.

in the hospital jean says "kill me" at the end she says "save me", saying the same thing but differently

Technically Juggernant should've went thru that wall because he isn't a mutant.. his powers are mystical from the Crimson Gem

40:32 Bobby [Iceman] was one of the senior students in the school, and had a responsibility like a resident advisor to check on his fellow students. Rogue became jealous that he was able to hold hands with the girl who walks through walls. In the comics, Bobby was the youngest of the original team : Cyclops, Iceman, Beast, Angel, and Marvel Girl [Jean Grey]. When Bobby opens up with his power, he is an Omega level mutant like Storm and Phoenix. An issue of the comics had Jean admit that she was jealous that Bobby was allowed to progress at his own pace while she was constantly forced to adapt to her powers. At his most uninhibited, he literally could freeze the Earth and no one could stop him. The only thing that can stop him is his humanity.

Her: "It looks like parts of him are being disintegrated." Him: 😬

Man this film grew on me, I did dislike it when I saw it in my teens because I watched the cartoons growing up. Now I respect it so much more

The sex-doll de-ageing they did on Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in this movie gets me every time.

The best way to think about the timelines is: X-men first class -> X-men origins: Wolverine (1980s) -> X1, X2, X3 (2000s) -> Wolverine (2010s) -> X-men Days of future past (2023) -> Then the past moments are set in 1973 and after the changes are done, everything after 1973 is changed -> X-men: Apocalypse (1983) -> Dark phoenix (1990s) -> Logan (2029).

I actually rlly enjoy this movie I think I’m just biased cause this was the first ever superhero movie I saw in the theaters.

There's another cameo besides Stan's - the guy whose lawnmower floats away is Chris Claremont, who wrote the X-Men for 17 years, and is generally considered the definitive X-Men writer. Among many other things, he co-created Phoenix/Dark Phoenix.

To Jen's point, I'm not certain whether it would've mattered if Logan tried to use the Cure on Jean... Even if he did so and was successful, then they'd still have to deal with the power of the Phoenix Force itself, which is a sentient cosmic entity, and not Mutant...

2 things. They did do something with the Prof X thing. Thats how he came back in the end on the wolverine and dofp. And also the phoenix force isn’t a mutant gene so the cure would not do anything

This story was an attempt to adapt three of the most popular X-Men storylines of the 80's. "The Phoenix Saga" which took place over a really long run, and the graphic novel "God Loves, Man Kills" (not 100% on the title, it's been awhile) from the 80's. The problem was, it was such a mishmash of the two, that it didn't do either justice. The hand to hand with Storm/Ororo was a comic reference with the character Calysto and the Morlocks...

I've always thought Angel was quite useless when it came to fighting but very useful in a fight when he became Archangel because he had more powers .

8:26 I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣 Dude is struggling so badly not have another: "Holden Thomas Hardman!! " moment

the "guy in the coma" was in Lore charles xaviers comatose twin brother. yes,they went to this stuzpid length to get charles xavier back as he is. The best part is that his twin brother also was in a wheelchair.

0:56 Well Magneto is classified as a revolving door on TVTropes, and they're not wrong. He's the same in the comics too, he even replaced Charles as the headmaster of the mutant school for awhile in the early 80s comics

8:23 I love watching holden squirm because there's too many jokes available and he can't choose which one

Rogue could most likely hold her own child without issue. The trouble would be the conceiving part since she can't control her powers. In alternate universes/timelines she has successfully conceived children and raised them with no issues in that regard. In Age of Apocalypse for instance she had a son (named Charles) with Magneto. Also, it flip flops depending upon the writer but for the most part mutants can't harm mutants they're related to. For example Cyclops and Havok's powers don't affect each other. Similarly Banshee and Black Tom can't use their powers on each other and Emma Frost and her siblings have trouble affecting each other with their powers. But on the other side, Scarlet Witch can use her powers on Quicksilver and Emplate can use his powers on Monet so like I said, it depends on the writer.

WOW.Brings back sooo many memories.The Last Stand came out May 26,2006,in 06 I was training at Ft Hood,Tx to deploy to Iraq with an aviation unit to perform convoy escort.This would be my 2nd straight deployment to Iraq.The year before I was in Iraq with an infantry unit fighting.Convoy escort is the most dangerous missions you can do,of course the enemy was hitting convoys hard.Makes sense.I was in 2nd platoon in my unit,we had some comicbook fans in my platoon and we'd go to the local comic shop right outside the main gate of Ft Hood.GOOD TIMES.I felt like these guys were my FAMILY!! Had to protect and look out for them.Of course a lot of people from my unit went to see the Last Stand,it felt good to go with others,I usually went to see movies by myself.Everyone was talking about it the next day.I don't like going to clubs but went with my fellow soldiers when invited,Country West was the name of this club they liked going to,we usually went Wednesday,Friday and Saturday nites.We had a carivan of cars going.GOOD TIMES.I had a lot of issues with this X-Men film and the X-Men comics also,BUT,my thread is already too long,so time to giddy up. SEMPER-FI.

With the Golden Gate Bridge weighing about 894,500 tons, and the average car weighing about 3,300 pounds, plus the fact that the Bridge can hold about 24,000 in an hour and you divide that by two because it takes half an hour to cross, approximately 12,000 are on it at a time. So, 12,000 x the 3,300 average weight equals 19,800 tons. Add that to the weight of the Bridge, and you get 914,300 tons. That means, Magneto in that scene carried about one billion, eight hundred twenty eight million, six hundered thousand pounds. 1,828,600,000 Lbs. Wow, that was a lot of math.

Imagine an Avengers movie with Captain America being completely useless, yeah that's what the original trilogy did to Scott. He was the leader of the X-Men and the movies did a huge disservice to his character.

" So now he's just a normal 65 year old on medicare ? " lol

Am I the only one who thought this was one of the better xmen movies? Specifically, because of what we see in the "reboot" movies, the relationship between Charles and Magneto becomes fully fleshed out, which makes Charles death in this movie that much more meaningful, especially when Magento watched it happen.

I love these original movies, especially with Charles, Eric, Logan, Storm, and Bobby but i’m so excited to see you guys watch the reboot! Days of Future Past is my favorite one and i’m looking forward to seeing you guys’ commentary on all of those! Thank you for doing this series, and Happy New Year!

As a kid this one was my favorite X-Mem movie. I still love it to this day because of all the cool looking powers Grown up now knowing a lot more about the X-Men stories i can see the flaws

The reaction at 45:22 - 46:00 had my LMFAO…😂😂👍

She said save me then it turned into "I don't want to fix it" at which point she slams him across the room and struts out into the hallway like a boss. His "been there done that" instincts kicked in and he had to stab her quickly. Also the scene right before he approached... she disintegrated all the "cure" needles shot at her, along with the soldiers who shot them... so there was no cures to inject her with. (that's how I interpreted it)

Happy New Year guys !! discovered your channel mid last year and have been really enjoying watching each week since, love the content and keep up the great work also loving the X-men series getting underway, I grew up with original trilogy and also really like some of the newer movies coming up so super keen to see the reactions yet to come !!

Wolverine couldn't use the cure on Jean because she disintegrated everything that got close to her. The only thing that could approach her is Wolverine due to his healing.

I love this one, I like how dark and evil Jean looked in this movie showing the true power of the dark Phoenix

The Golden gate weighs 887,000 tons. That is including footings, approaches and the trash. Footings or Anchorage’s are said to be 60 ton a piece. So 767Ton then subtract 7% for approach being sheared off. So 713 metric tons conservatively. -Brought to you by the letter H, H….. it takes atleast 2 to spell Holden Hardman, and depending on his middle name it could be 3-4.

Wow Jen asked a question I never thought of in 15 years! "Why didn't he just stab her with the cure" I mean it probably wouldn't have worked since Magnito kept his powers but I seriously never thought of that!

I’d be nice for Holden to explain to Jen what the phoenix actually is and why the professor tried to suppress it when it was inside Jean. It probably would clear a lot of things up.

Fun fact: the "I'm Juggernaut, bitch!!!" is a reference to a old video that was circulating internet before KZfaq of a redub of a 90s X-Men episode 😄🤗.

In the post credits scene of the Wolverine it shows prof x alive again The only explanation he gives wolverine is saying “you’re not the only one with gifts”

You don't know how much this x-men reaction actually means to me

The reaction was better than the movie. Lots of good ones in this one. Especially the one at the end. Best one yet.

Yay!! I’m glad to hear you guys do the Patreon thing where we can watch the movie with you lol!!! When did you guys start doing that??

Magneto lifted the Total weight of each anchorage is 60,000 tons (54,400,000 kg). Original combined weight of Bridge, anchorages, and approaches is 894,500 tons (811,500,000 kg). Total weight of Bridge, anchorages, and approaches (1937) is 894,500 tons (811,500,000 kg).

The heart break in Jens eyes when you said I didn’t hit record 😂😂

I know this movie gets a lot of hate, yall listed several issues with the movie which I mostly agree on but I still really enjoy this movie, I really like it. I would say X2, X3, then X1 is how i would rate the original trilogy. And Jen's reaction to Jean scratching Logan "Thats so hot" hahahaha priceless

Ahhh that mid-"credits" moment! I love you two so much! This is my favorite You Tube channel on the citadel.

R. Lee Ermey's voice is so unique I knew it was him just from the initial shout of "Let's go!" R.I.P you badass.

I hope you'll like First Class. On its own I think it's one of the best flicks that has the X-men brand slapped on. I felt like it has the soul and charm that the comic book movies are missing nowadays even if the main plot has obvious, probably intentional flaws, similar to the sam raimi spiderman movies.

The Golden Gate Bridge weights 894,500 tons. I believe Film Theory calculated that to lift that weight through sheer magnetism, the magnet in question needed to output, every second, the energy the sun does over a year.

It is my belief the visually storm's powers would blow up the SFX budget so they never showed us the full range of Storm's powers.

"Okay Pyro" is very Cinema Sins "Earn that pay check Tyrese" energy.

You know, you raised an interesting question. Could rogue ever have a child? And would she be able to touch that child? My guess is, the way marvel goes, if she got pregnant via…alternative means…her child would be born a mutant and the only superpower it would have is that it would be the only person she COULD touch. And then later on we’d find out that the superpower is actually immunity to everyone else’s powers, which would actually be super OP. Cool idea.

This movie is probably the weakest of the three, but in some ways it is my favorite. The stakes were incredible, with main characters being killed or completely upended early and often. Visually, it was stunning. And there’s a personal level I want to address-as you’ve pointed out before, the original X-men comics were written as an allegory for the Civil Rights movement, with Professor X and Magneto as ideological stand-ins for MLK and Malcom X, highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of civil disobedience vs militant resistance against mass oppression and discrimination. As you noted in X2, the films began to touch on more dimensions of oppression and discrimination, including that for the LGBT community. While I don’t think this movie exclusively was a metaphor for only that issue, the part about the cure hit me particularly hard. I am gay, but unlike Rogue or Hank with their difficult to conceal/handle differences, I can easily pass as straight, like how Storm says ‘no big deal just be proud of who you are..’ it is undeniably easier for some people. And yet still, even with the privilege of being unassumingly masculine, I have often found myself wishing for a magical cure to save me from the stigmas and shame that are still pushed in our “modern” era by so many backwards and fearful/hateful people. I really felt for Rogue (and Angel in that scene where he was a boy trying to hide his ‘difference’ from his father..) feeling that she was broken and had no place in the world as she was born to be. The way they captured the nuance of this dichotomy between pride and shame really knocked this one out of the park for me.

On Rogue having a baby. Usually in the comics, close relatives are immune to each other’s powers. She had a kid in the AoA storyline, but I think Magneto made a field around it while she was giving birth.

8:24. Holden is like you threw the alley... I MUST OOP!!! 😂

In 2006, I was in middle school, and at my peak with my X-Men fandom, playing both X-Men Legends/Ultimate Alliance games, comics, official guide's, toys and merch, and saw the film three times in theaters... And I didn't like the film the first I saw it... (Had to see it with people who didn't see it). Like this film was received so poorly, it really threw a wrench in going forward, so PREQUELS and SPIN-OFFS, what could go wrong!? This film... It hurt me, because it butchered two completely different storylines, Astonishing X-Men's cure storyline, and The Dark Phoenix storyline, both rushed, and added on the part were no other characters, get room to breathe, like, all five original X-Men (Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman, Angel) are in the movie, and did nothing with it, and Rogue, Kitty, and Colossus have no character development, in any of the main films. Also, Rogue as right now in the comics is doing great, married to Gambit, has full control of her powers, so she can touch whatever she wants now. Storytime, so, Brett Ratner is another sex pest like Bryan Singer, but way more gross. He told Elliott Page to calm his nerves and make out with a crew woman to finally admit what he likes... Basically outting Elliot. So I'm never gonna like this movie, even if wasn't a diehard X-Men fan.

“Sorry, I’m ruining it, I know, I’m sorry.” Continues to run it for the rest of the movie 🤦🏽‍♂️. Thank goodness for Jen and her commentary.

The featuring all of these mutants was more about the fan service of just seeing how many they can fit into the movie. It was fun when I was younger, but I understand story and writing more to see how messy it was. Kinda like how Lil' Wayne and Tech N9ne got me into understanding lyricism in hip hop or how creatively dark metal lyrics can be.

So glad I found this channel. This one was so funny! It is very interesting to look back on movies I enjoyed as a kid from a new perspective.

In the credits of NO WAY HOME, they gave a huge thank you for AVI ARAD He ruined THE LAST STAND, SPIDER-MAN 3 and TASM2 And they still gave him a thank you

They actually do follow up that end credits scene with Chuck. They follow it up in the end credits of The Wolverine and X-Men: Days of Future Past, the sequel to both The Wolverine and X-Men: First Class. The Wolverine also shows Logan coping with the fact he killed her. I completely agree about Scott. Yet again, he got done really dirty. "Kitty" Pryde is what she's called in the comics, but that was more her nickname. She later goes by Kate Pryde, her real name being Katherine. As usual for these movies, she's a great character, but the movie doesn't fully do her justice, especially Rogue too. This is both a terrible adaptation of The Dark Phoenix Saga, and at the same time, I kinda enjoy this movie now. It's a big step down from X2, but it still has some interesting ideas and fun action in spite of the story's unevenness. For being one of the mediocre X-movies, it's still a pretty good time in spite of itself sometimes. Also, I wouldn't have said anything, but only because you simply had to mention it... i'm not comparing the current-year injections with this fictional "cure," and say whatever you want about the coof vaccines, for them, against them, whatever. One's opinions about it are kind of irrelevant, because the base issue isn't really "the science." What the movie does address and makes a valid point about for today is that coercing people into being given invasive medical procedures of any kind whatsoever is an insanely unethical violation of the human right to bodily autonomy (and may potentially skirt dangerously close to violating some Nuremberg codes). It's a personal/property rights issue more than anything. Consult a trusted physician who knows your medical history, do your own research, and make your own informed choises as far as I'm concerned, but politically weaponizing public health policy by mandating people surrender their right to bodily autonomy under threat of losing your means of engaging in society and providing for yourself is authoritarian and deeply immoral.

Yes I agree with Jen, Scott deserved more. He is Captain America of X-Men while Wolverine is the Tony Stark that is their character dynamics. Sucks that Fox made the Trilogy "Wolverine and friends." Instead of it being a team movie like Avengers.

3:30 "He could have been the Pigeon. Flies over and poops on cars."🤣 What an idea!🤣

When the X-Men 3 plot is basically the state of the world right now… “Make no mistake, they will force this cure upon us.”

Not even supporting a side here but just leave politics off the channel please 🙏🏽

im glad i stuck around to the end. Jenn's face was priceless

X2 The last video I saw of you guys and on KZfaq overall, and now X3 will be the first video of the year as well, and I'm very glad it is of you guys, thank you for for the fun memories and the awesome reactions 🍻 here is to another year of great content HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! I can't wait for more content 🤙🏼

This is why I advocated about watching these in plot chronological order. Charles moving into the body of the coma twin does play out in the Wolverine mid-credit scene, which leads directly into DOFP, so it's not true that they didn't do anything with it. Also the entire timeline is explainable by watching in this order: First Class-Origins-X1-X2-X3-The Wolverine-The Gifted-Days Of Future Past (First Timeline "Reset")-Apocalypse-Dark Phoenix-Legion (2nd Timeline "Reset")-Deadpool-Deadpool 2-New Mutants-Logan

LOL Jen is so adorable at the end when shes annoyed

I"m very glad Holden mentioned the timeline. More fun to come! 😉

Omg Holden you really got her at the end there with the camera not recording :D Well played, very well played :)

They did something with Charles’ consciousness, they just don’t explain it in future movies. The coma guy (SPOILERS)… …was his twin brother. That’s how he’s there at the end of The Wolverine and during Days of Future Past.