I can see the TV screens in my dreams...

"His problem this time isn't burnout; it's the game Issue

ZZZ kind of just feels like a casual game for people who want a nice easy time, while being able to enjoy satisfying animations and sfx.

How to make this game more fun? Take a shot for every TV screen you see while playing

Another thing to note, the mobs and bosses are the same in all the stages over and over and over again, like where is the mob variety and different types of bosses? It just feels so repetitive.

I'm quitting You're quitting Mtashed is quitting Everyone is quitting This changes everything

In ZZZ, you don't play the characters--the characters play themselves. I also feel like I have little to no control over the flow of combat. It feels like I would achieve similar scores by letting my cat walk across the keyboard.

What disappoints me the most is how much style ZZZ exudes, but there's not much substance to it (for now at least)

I'm suffering with wuwa syndrome from how I was trying to play zzz.

I feel like this is the one game hoyo should've made into a $40-60 complete game rather than gacha. It has SO much style and the presentation is just top notch the combat is very satisfying especially the switch parrys imo but it will undoubtedly get boring fast if you're forcing yourself to play it everyday. I feel like people wouldn't care as much if it was just a 30 hour story game with an ending and not something they want us to keep playing every single day.

Kuro is hitting 2 hoyoverse games with 1 game.. - If you play WuWa returning to Genshin will feel horrible cause everything becomes slow and easier - If you played WuWa before ZZZ, ZZZ will become too boring, ZZZ parrying and dodge looks inferior, the window to parry is long that it feels like babying you(no feel of reward and satisfaction cause u can do it easily), you dont feel the need to dodge because theres really no punishment for not doing so. And the mobs hit like what 3 times? Its just smashing smashing.

My biggest gripe is that sometimes in the middle of a combo you get those quick time events where you press either left or right mouse to swap into respective characters, but it appears out of nowhere so sometimes you just wanna left click enemies and then suddenly you get swapped out of your active character not of your own free will. Yeah its flashy and cool, but annoying as fuck

Asmon put it best: WuWa is a deep pool vs ZZZ is a pretty little pond

The button mashing is so true, I have no idea wtf I’m doing but my Ben team just clears all the content it should from where it’s at (also at inter knot 25)

I stopped playing after 2 hrs and was shocked how little motivation I had to play it again

Mihoyo saw StreetFighter, and they knew EXACTLY what was missing to make it perfect: More restrictions in combat, mandatory boardgame breaks and open world fetch quests without any movement mechanics at all. 👍

I greatly respect you for calling out Tectone's bullying and one sided argumentation way with other fellow CC on the yesterday's Twitch stream. You're a good human being.

If we went to a restaurant and they served bad food, or food that could be prepared better, you would want someone to mention it, and bring it up to the chef. You wouldn't turn around and say "if you don't like it then leave." Or "here he goes again." YESS, we need that. That's the only way games get better, games change, and they become items or memories we come back to years after it came out because we love playing the game. Not just for the new thirst trap. I appreciate you Tash man. And I know a lot of people do as well.

oh nice good to know after 20 hours there is one boss that hits you a lil bit

The 180 free pulls is a total lie. To get them all you need minimum 10+ hours playing OPTIMALLY. When Wuwa said 100 free pulls, they legit give you 100 pulls. There is only like 20, 30? free pulls from ZZZ, the rest is from gameplay.

My biggest issue with the game that turned me away in the first hour is how they falsely advertised that the 120 pulls would be free when they are only technically free. They're "free" but unlike most games they backhandedly make you play hours and hours to get them when other games just give you the pulls and is what is expected from the wording they used. It's just for retention farming and I'm not here for it. And lets not forget, people that your time is the most important currency we have. Period. That is something we can never get back. I'll play the games that I've been gaming and if you like ZZZ I'm happy for you and I hope you keep enjoying it. At the very least I know have the knowledge of why people don't like Hoyo to the point that they do.

This did NOT change everything

Hoyoverse will never focus on gameplay because the majority of their players don't care about gameplay. Most of them only care about pixels they can call their wife. Kinda sad really.

ZZZ combat feels more like a QTE simulator than an action game and all the QTEs require you to left click. They need to add more complexity outside of the QTE.

wtf is hoyo thinking? do a 60% of the game those fucking screens? dude in the cbt most of the people where talking about how boring was that and mihoyo just do his classic movement "i dont give a shit cause when i give you the solution you gonna be love me again"

I see people saying that game will get harder later into the game, ,but after playing hsr and genshin that is just not true when you get a real team you have good build it will just be a button mashing. I love HSR and Genshin and I love ZZZ design and story but that is a fact hoyo will not make anything difficult it will always be a relic grind and a dps check.

I played for a few hours and I was falling asleep during the TV sections and combat just felt like enemy gold = parry , enemy blue = dodge then just mash attack

Is the daily endgame grind not the exact same as hsr tho? Abyss resets, farming relics, doing weekly bosses and doing sim uni (hollow zero). Even in hollow zero there is barely any tvs. To me the most boring parts is the story tv mode but thats limited. Its not going to be a recurrent thing when you play the game day to day. Majority of the things I mentioned prior is just pure combat.

If WuWa had ZZZ polish it would be the GOAT of Gacha games

It's a game to punish your left click button XD

i coulda sworn that someone said that they toned down the TV's... HOLYYYY ITS BORING. I agree with Mtashed here, with pretty much everything. This game has potential, the style is unique in the gacha genre and i really want the best for this game because it CAN be better, that's the thing. The TV thing is THE WORST!!!! 🙄🙄

This game is trash.

ZZZ problems : You can take a shit while the mobs are not attacking Dodge is not necessary, you barely move after been hit The chars are all blend , the same bullshit THE MTF TELEVISION MISSIONS ARE BORING AS HELLLLL ! Do YOU LIKE CORRIDORS AND CLOSE SPACES.... YOU WILL !!!

Gotta respect the tashed mans honesty and dedication.

Mtashed is quitting again. No, this time we're all quitting with him😂

I love this video. Always love how MTashed keeps it real and honest. Can’t explain why, but it really makes want to play the game more.

Fully agree. It's a game for children and the inept. Even the puzzles are on toddler level. I actually feel insulted by the circuit puzzles in particular. Who ever thought this low level was a good idea? Do they think we are too stupid to breath? Then the combat. Omg. It is so easy and monotone that it becomes a chore. The entire concept is bosses with huge HP that do 0 damage against pretty much immortal characters that do low damage. It's just a click fest without any way to fail. Add to that the repeating map design, low number of mob types and combat gets old very fast. They tried to add some variety by giving you new trial characters in every chapter but the combat still never changes. I am going to continue playing until I am out of story content but if the combat doesn't become a lot more engaging in the "endgame" I doubt I will return for more. Not when Wuwa is a thing.

Wuthering Waves didnt kill Genshin or Star Rail but it surely killed ZZZ

I think it's a problem that ZZZ's biggest competition in terms of hoyo games is HI3 but it currently can't compete with that. So players won't drop HI3 for ZZZ because if doesn't properly deliver on their "combat focused game" premise

The difficulty issues can be fixed but the real problem is that this game is flavorless both combat and story. Add hoyo to the whole situation and you have a disgusting product.

Props to you for commiting through this game. I just can't seem to get into it with the amount of TV surfing you have to do and dealing with the awful UI layout.

that tv gave me real headache an auto mechanic with more speedup would help,also ps5 has real framedrop issue

There is no hate. Call it... Disappointment. Indifference. Feelings of underwhelm because it was so overhyped.

He's 100% right. It's insulting how simple the gameplay is, while at the same time being infuriatingly complicated in terms of live service mechanics and UI.

Honestly. This game as a whole been a solid 6/10 for me. -Main story 5/10. I played in the final beta and even now it’s not bad but ain’t amazing. -Style/music is EASILY the best out of any other hoyo game (to me) -Combat is only a 8/10 for the first hour even during the beta it was fun but it do slowly get repetitive (also the fact I’m able to beat a boss without looking is concerning lol) -The TV system is terrible. It was terrible during my time in the beta and even now when they “improved” on it. I still hate it a lot. I find myself turning my brain off doing it -Endgame modes like hollow zero is actually really cool when actually doing it. Not as many tvs compare to the story, Solid 8/10. -The leveling ESPECIALLY from 20 to 30 is actually a living hell. At least with star rail and genshin it’s doable and more tolerable. But zzz make it feel like a struggle, currently level 28 and it’s been difficult. I can’t imagine how bad its going to be from 30 to damn 50 - The UI is a 7/10. I like the style it got going. Is it too much? Absolutely. - THE WISHING ANIMATION A 3/10 it was cool for the first 3 hours but I grown to dislike it I’m gonna be honest. Plus the music that plays when you get a 5 star gets annoying really fast - Characters in this game are easily the most lively characters we gotten in a HOYO game and it’s not even close. 10/10 love them OVERALL it’s a polished fine game that’s fit for casual. Just like any hoyo game. I do think I prefer wuwa over zzz just a tiny bit. I do plan on sticking with zzz for the long run but I can fully see why people dislike the game, and it’s perfectly fine to move on from it. AND THAT ALSO MEANS don’t roast anyone who’s actually enjoying the game and don’t roast those who ain’t. Stick to yourself and worry about yourself. If you are enjoying the game and think it’s a 10/10 great for you. If you hate the game beyond belief That’s unfortunate and it’s fine to move on from it (I’m done editing my comment lol )

I uninstalled it after realizing that I have to do that mini tv game thing before every battle because that's just part of the game mechanics. Not for me too, and I kind of feel sad because I was so hyped to play the game.

Genshin surprised me with the open world, HSR surprised me with its story but this game is just...meh 😅

3:54 Blindfolded run with Mtash?! Dew it! xD

TV made me alt+F4 out of the game

Mtashed spoke exactly what I felt about the combat. I didn't feel in control as much with this game. I always feel like I have to swap the characters as I see the flash or the hint telling that you could do a combo so I have to swap even when I don't really want to. And because the game doesn't let you heal yourself, so the damage from the enemies are weak so it doesn't feel punishing at all.

Especially coming from WUWA, ZZZ is wayyy too easy and brain dead sometimes. Feels more like a game to jump into every once in a while

They somehow made an action combat game more casual than Genshin?

I think hoyo made it easy at first release cuz not a lot of players know this type of games, just so they can get used to it. It's very understanable for me. Heck the new players don't even know how to play Hi3rd, let alone if ZZZ has the same difficulty as Hi3rd. They'll probably complaining about the game being too hard😂

Even with challenging mode on, you're absolutely right on how fights are super easy. I think I can see where you're coming from when you say you don't have control over the fight. There is merit to it and I can experience that myself, but I think it's more of a mechanical thing. I felt like I didn't have control over fights until I understand the pace of fights and how to initiate my own combos with stuns/skill usage/etc. I do still think the biggest issue is how enemy damage is under tuned, even with the harder mode on

I agree with a lot of the points, but my one critique is that yes, it's casual friendly, and that good for the game. Not every game needs to be high pressure, high stakes. I personally enjoy the combat. There's mechanical depth that isn't required by the player to use, BUT it's there for people who want to learn their favorite units. It's flashy, it's impactful, while still being easy to learn. And my hot take: I think the TV system is good! My biggest issue with HSRs SimU modes (as someone who plays them non-stop for fun) was that each zone had a big space, and only a few things in there. With the TV it's just zip-zap-zop and you're there. And no, I'm not going to compare it to WuWa's SimU clone. Tbh it's the worst of the 3. Lastly the story is good. BUT not in a "omg they've written it so well" good or "omg the plot twists!" good or "omg the LORE" good. It feels like watching a cartoon. It's not that serious, its not that deep, and it doesn't try to be. And I think that's good. We don't need the Proxy to be the center of the world and we shouldn't have every game be a world-ending plot. ZZZs story is about a pair of siblings solving problems and going on adventures. Feel free to disagree with me. I think some of my takes can have arguments against them. And that's ok too. Opinions are subjective after all.

It's time, become a Elden Ring youtuber and do nothing but fight bosses and level up without artificial bottlenecks. It's what your heart desires. ❤

I tried Genshin, lasted for maybe a month and didn’t bother with HSR. I have enjoyed Wuthering Waves. Gameplay, UI and character designs are all high quality in my opinion. I tried ZZZ at launch and the following day. It’s not my style, but it does feel mobile friendly, likely to a fault. ZZZ has a unique UI, which was the main draw for me. Ultimately these games are all the same… at this point, my preference is Wuthering Waves.

13:23 "finding garbage cans" 😭

ZZZ is meh... I just cant play the game anymore after almost 10hrs of playing, I just cant make myself play it.. Idk about u guys but it doesnt have the flare..

ZZZ and Jenshin icon has their left eye closed, that means stingy and boring. HI and HSR has their right eye closed, that means good game. 🗿

This game just has no identity. It looks like random anime in modern day: the game.

I hate how people shut down Mtashed's opinion constantly by saying that he's just miserable or that "he quits everything anyway." The 'memes' about him are actually so annoying.

Honestly I wasn't hyped at all at first. And there was even a time I thought "I am not playing it" why? Because of the Hoyo taint. BUT I started yesterday and I am having a blast. I love the animations , characters, the story so far and those battles are smooth and flawless like a perfect oiled machinery. And I was never a "hard mode advocate" so for me it is perfect and I am not playing the hard mode ingame I play the chill one and for me it is perfect.

ZZZ making me ZZzzZz too much 💀

Hoyo said that this is a combat focused game 🥱 180 pulls on launch 🥱 Hoyo fans said that this is the wuwa killer 🥱 But ZZZ is the ZZZ killer.

"im qutting" video incoming! Edit :Ok one point. I think if the game ACTUALLY just LET ME FIGHT. Without having anything else. I would enjoy it More. Also timegated-ness Hurts.

Someone said "I can see the TV screens in my dreams" 💀💀💀

Idk. It’s probably too early to speak about beating Shiryu Defense by just mashing. Stuff is starting to hurt at 25 and I imagine things are just gonna hit harder especially in the endgame stuff. But we’ll see forsure. Valid complaints for the early grind though.

This game is more of an interactive movie than a game

Well said man. I'm in a very similar position in regards to how im currently viewing the game. The aesthetic, design and polish of the game is well done and looks good, but combat and especially the TV sections and just generally how it plays have not been something I'd say are up my alley. I went in as a long time GI and HSR player and so expected a good game or at the very least fun but I just can't find the motivation to keep playing ever since the first 2 hour or so sesh I had on release. It just doesn't feel fun. Im not dropping it, but I've barely been playing 20mins or so a day when I log on.

Zzz is extremely casual

I did the fastest Quit of all the games I played it takes me 2 hours 😂😂

HexJuice literally finished a fight with her eyes closed

I genuinely believe you’ve had solid takes all around so far for this game. It’s crazy how many people are being contrarian for the sake of it when this game needs a lot of improvements in the areas you mentioned.

Genuinely, your honesty is a huge reason why I watch you. For better or worse you keep it real and give honest critiques when you could easily fake it for the first 2 weeks when a game is at its most profitable for CC's.

my problem with zzz is that it doesnt feel unique enough. in terms of combat its literally honkai impact again but with parrying. it has genshins weapon-refinement system, and artifact system. it has hsr's simulated universe. nothing aside from the art style feels new or unique if youve played the other hoyo games. yet despite this i was still able to sit down and play it for 11 hours straight so there is definitely something of substance here. especially if you have never played another hoyo game

ZZZ Beta Feedback: "It feels like I'm fighting the game for control over my characters" Hoyo: "Wow, they said the characters control like it's a fighting game! We're just like Street Fighter frfr!"

If you have such good luck and don't like the game, then imagine my experience with having the worst luck possible.

Love you Mtashed, been watching your content for years. Know that people like watching content creators enjoy a game. So do what you enjoy, not what you think you need to do, people will follow.

After genshin and Wuthering I was like having some really high hopes for this game but after 2-3days I'm like nah this is not for me.. So back to Wuthering again 😂😂

Tbh the optimization is the worst part for me. Since this is a game with loadscreens, on older devices, you have to sit through maybe minutes of loadscreens before 30 seconds of combat. Just feels really frustrating to play.

Hoping they improve the game in the next update that should focus more in combat, crazy ass enemies, water effects that makes enemy stronger becoz their in hollow, no more tvs in endgame mode etc.

I totally get what Tashman is saying. Back when I started playing gacha games during COVID-19 quarantines, everything felt great, whatever I may try. Then, patterns start to become noticeable just like this Isekai genre in Japanese animations. Gacha games are still better because a lot of them try to do some things differently from the other games. The problem though, there's too damn lot of parts where the story doesn't progress but somehow has more dialogue than the important parts, which is ridiculous. Every Hyv game has this problem. Punishing gray raven & Arkights felt the most tedious because of the lack of voiceover and character movements and shit doesn't ramp things up after hours of reading, a dozen or so chapters played & I just gave up on the story. I've been bombarded with complaints a few times by some diehard fans before for saying this, too. User experience is sacrificed for playtime & money they would potentially make from Gacha.

Same I don't feel the control of the character

For me personally, my main problems qith this game are 2: 1) theres not a aingpe character design i really love. In genshin there was diluc. In hsr there was Stella. In wuwa there was female rover. Here none of the characters appealed to me. But this can be solved later with future releases. The worse problem is: 2) i cant ult with more than 1 character. Its so stupid. Ita the coolest move ror all characters and yet youre forced to choose only one of them to ult with until you regain the points back.

This is a gacha game which is designed for your average person who work 9-5s. For me this content is more than enough and I prefer it being time gated.

If it's not a Hoyo game it gets no attention and called a flop. Also you're not allowed to dislike the current bandwagon.

The part that really bothers me with ZZZ so far is that, for all of the style and energy that it has, the bulk of the gameplay is clicking through dialogue and navigating menus. The pacing of the gameplay itself is absolutely awful. While I'm in combat? Love it. Everything in between is just a fucking cumbersome drag and no amount of flash is going to change that.

Yes, infact guys, ZZZ is just that... 💤 😴

One of the things I don't like about the combat is when you are forced to swap characters. Feels like instead of playing a game, you're just smashing buttons and doing what you're told

Some things are fun, but you pointed out most of the tedious annoying stuff. My goal is to play super casually.

I realized a long time ago the game just wasn't for me. It feels like the game is trying to be hip, cool and urban but it just comes off like a grandpa trying too hard too hard to fit into the youth. I probably would have liked the game alot more if I was in middle school or something.

average fight in zzz boss attacks once, dodge it, hit them ten billion times before they attack again 🥱 😴

all charaters are mid school like 7 grade not even teens so to me hard skipp game

Gun to my head, I couldn’t tell you wtf Is going on in this game

mtashed says he was quitting- " proceeds to play the game again"

The way Da Wei Glazed so much the "Huh, we only give 80 Pulls!? Throw in 20 More! Make it 100!" But then it's just actually standard pulls, is really so hilarious. And now how they provide Mid Combat (despite being a fighting-game), the TV system, the low-budget picture-dub only dialogues, and optimization issues really is just so bad, the ratings now in Google Play Store just drops to 3.1 and in CN 5.8. Google Trends already down in just 1 day. With all the Overhype of Hoyo and the kids for this game, it's just so disappointing how they rush ZZZ's release too early to have this problems popping out now.

this is one of those rare times where he's actually right

The only thing that made me try this game is because of the art style, I love it

They should put an option to turn off all the handholding/shoehorning for the chaining and swapping. Like, let me do them on my own, don't force me! Also needs more battle maps and less practice dummy enemies (they're still dummies even at challenging mode).