My Idea for new Godox AD200 Round Head

My Idea for new Godox AD200 Round Head - Flashpoint eVolv 200

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AD200 Description:
The AD200 TTL Pocket Flash Kit from Godox is built around a unique flash light source that has a standard speedlite head and a bare bulb head that give you the option of 2 distinctly different qualities of light. The kit comes with the 2 heads, lithium battery, charger and carry case.
The speedlight head outputs the standard look of an on-camera flash that can be modified using an optional softbox, beauty dish or umbrella. The bare bulb head features a removable flash tube and produces 360 degrees of soft, bright, nearly shadowless light. The head uses optional reflectors that focus the beam angle and give you directional control. The AD200 has impressive core features such as 200 Ws of power adjustable in 8 steps from 1/128 to 1/1, recycling from 0.01 to 2.1 seconds and flash durations as short as 1/11,300 sec. The flash runs on a removal rechargeable lithium battery that will give you up to 500 full power flashes and thousands of lower power flashes.
The AD200 has 3 flash modes: Manual, TTL, and Multi (Stroboscopic). Manual outputs the user's choice of power, modeling light, first or second curtain sync, etc. Multi controls the stroboscopic rate up to 90 times (90 Hz). TTL takes advantage of the flash head's built-in X1 receiver. Optional X1 TTL transmitters are available for Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji cameras. They will also detect a separately purchased LED head. The 32-channel wireless system controls flash mode, first and second curtain sync, High-speed sync up to 1/8000 sec, power level, modeling lamp and ready beeper at distances up to 328'. Firmware updates are obtainable on the Godox website.
Built-In 2.4 GHz Wireless X System
Built-in wireless receiver: control triggering power level, alert beep with optional wireless transmitter. Compatible with Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji TTL.
Bare Bulb and Speedlight Flash Heads
Bare bulb and speedlite flash heads are included to vary your quality of light. Color temperature is a steady 5600K over the entire power range.
Large Capacity Lithium Battery Pack
The 14.4 V / 2900 mAH battery pack gets 500 full power flashes with 0.01 to 2.1 sec. recycling.
AV Panel
Easily readable digital panel displays your adjustments
Accessories
Barn Doors, color filters and diffusers are available to personalize your work.
Numerous Control Functions
8-step power range: 1/1 to 1/128
Supports flash exposure compensation
1/8000 sec high-speed Sync
First and second curtain sync
Modeling lamp
Manual flash
Multi flash
Custom functions
Flashpoint introduces the next step in the evolution of the outstanding R2 Family. The eVOLV 200, with the heart of the world famous Streaklight 360 TTL and the soul of the ever popular XPLOR 600 TTL, compatible with R2 Canon, Nikon and Sony. A compact and efficient solution for travel, easy setup and the reliability of the R2 Wireless System. Never before has off camera lighting been so user friendly and masterful. It will change the way you harness your camera’s technology.
The new eVOLV 200 is not just a 200 watt second fully cordless TTL strobe, but an amazing miniaturized modular “SpeedMonoLight” system with interchangeable flash heads. You can snap in the best of traditional speedlite style Fresnel heads at GN170 (ft) or chose to use to the barebulb parabolic reflector head at GN 196 (ft) with super even spread, just by plugging it in. The incredible amount of power and control in these compact and lightweight flashes, make this design a first choice of professional photographers with an eye for flexible multiple light set up. The eVOLV 200 is the next evolution of the Flashpoint R2 radio system, totally compatible with the Canon, Nikon and Sony systems, for remote power control and shooting. With a focus on portable lighting, the R2 family frees your camera to go out and shoot at will.
The rewards of experience and innovation brings you an amazing miniaturized modular R2 2.4GHz wireless 200ws lithium powered TTL “SpeedMonoLight” with a max recycle time of under 2 seconds and enough energy to cover at least 500 full power shots.

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@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

My only concern with my design idea: Using the existing AD-B2 would require using the pins, and if the head had to be the same size, then it would stick out way too deep in a modifier. I think an AD-B2 (V2) would be better suited, with the round head recessed and directly connecting to the AD200s, rather than being adapted.

@mr89firebird 3 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought, as well.

@zrowedaartistviews2278 3 жыл бұрын

What’s the difference between the fernel head and the other head that comes with it? Which is best for a modifier

@MorrisDigitals 3 жыл бұрын

i love the idea for a single round bulb to use the round heads accessories

@rumporridge1 6 жыл бұрын

Great video on the AD200 design and taking the accessories a step further.

@sayyar9 5 жыл бұрын

man.. you have the best direct message ever... review are crystal clear and not complicated

@robhallphoto 5 жыл бұрын

:) thank you. It's a mission of mine to trim the fat in my content and keep it highly accessible!

@tscott6843 2 жыл бұрын

You have a great catalog of content. This video is still very relevant nearly four years later. After shooting video almost exclusively for the last 7 years I am going to do more quality photography. I already have a client base, cameras, LED lighting and a studio. All I need is flash. I'm pulling the trigger on Godox equipment, due almost exclusively on your videos. I've watched guys rave about Profoto and other equipment, but there is something about the way you simplify needs that sold me on Godox. I also feel like your tips, setups and accessories will work for me. Thank you. You probably saved me a lot of money.

@MuixEmXee 6 жыл бұрын

Magnets are always awesome... and your idea for a new Godoy ADB2 is quite innovative and would be very handy... hopefully Godox is watching... fingers crossed.

@RawGreySun 6 жыл бұрын

Love your idea!! Keep up the Good Work.

@AaronAlthaus 6 жыл бұрын

Love your idea. Just got my dual Evol200 set up and I love your idea! I really hope they run with it, it would be killer. and for the record, magmod is killing it and I'm excited to see other start ripping them off. The more magnet filters and attachments I have the better.

@AlexValtchev 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea! Godox, DO IT!

@michaelwiseii4552 6 жыл бұрын

Spot on again Robert! People started loosing it when they saw photos on Facebook stating “round is better” then posting images of bare flashes placed ten feet from a white wall in a dark room. It’s simply not a real world instance and a pure marketing thing. Do us a favor and debunk those images by placing those two different heads inside a light modifier (7” cone, umbrella, octabank and a rectangular softbox) and photograph a model against a white wall in a dark room.

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve got an A1 incoming to do a review as well as comparison content. So I will be sharing my conclusions soon!

@gregorysargeant6305 6 жыл бұрын

Your idea is an excellent one

@jamesskintauy6773 6 жыл бұрын

Agree that the barebulb produces better light inside a softbox. I love your idea - it would definitely make it super easy to use gells, which I love. Pretty much the only time I use the Fresnel head is when I am using Magmods, which is surprisingly often. Magmod should be the ones making such an item and I noticed that they have some softboxes coming out next year that use magnets (of course!). They should be able to reap the rewards of their innovation for a little while longer before everyone rips them off.

@drew-gray 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome idea!

@steveknight1314 6 жыл бұрын

What a great idea then we would only have to buy the add on's for the ADB2 accessory we already have

@WillBarnwell 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this...I'm a bit new to the game and you just saved me $79x2 with the comment about how the roundness benefits are lost once placed in a modifier. I always modify my lights (at least, right now) so can now settle my G.A.S. demons down! lol

@hayezmohairbi 5 жыл бұрын

I found the magmatic system so easy to use specially when it is so compact that they don’t take a lot of space, so if godox use similar systems that can be used across there light it would be so powerful.

@thomasspaythportraitdesign981 Жыл бұрын

I think the lastolite strobo was doing magnets before magmod. Love your idea I'd buy a few

@MrTkroskie 6 жыл бұрын

This isn’t the first magnet mod for the ad200 the barn door attachment for the fresnel head has magnets to hold the gels in place, although sometimes the tiny magnets work their way out of the mounting holes.

@michaelbyz23 6 жыл бұрын

Magnets are good for small modifiers that need speed and portability. Any softbox bigger than 60*60 will be too heavy for magnets to hold them firm enough not to be knocked out by wind when you're shooting outdoor. So yes, magnets for smaller and lighter modifiers.

@rickymcc8624 6 жыл бұрын

Agree magnet attaching is a good way to go which will likely gain currency. Don't see it totally userping Velcro which, whilst not quite as fast, provides a stronger attachment than 'small' magnets. Big magnets couldn't work well without an electro switch function - as big mags for really strong hold would likely be too heavy and hard to separate. Do like your idea for AD-B2 mod using 400 Ws head that could take fast gelling. Aside from gelling it's hard to see how adaption adds much to 2 bare bulbs save possibly robustness and convenience at extra cost - if made would likely be a minority interest. How about a gellable dome adaptor for 600 Ws mono head?

@godsakes 6 жыл бұрын

You know the metal bulb protector cover you can buy for the ad200? - surely godox could just release a range of coloured plastic covers that you'd just slide on before popping on a bowens modifier

@rickymcc8624 6 жыл бұрын

godsakes, now that does sound like a neat idea. Yet on reflection I cannot see it ever happening on a commercial scale. Given range of gells, modest cost of gells etc one can see why it's unlikely to happen. Bayonet fit in plastic would be point of weakness. High cost of plastic tooling moulds would likely make it necessary to sell at a premium which probably makes idea unviable. Finally from end user perspective it is too bulky to store more than one or two..... So neat though it initially seemed IMO I can't see it ever getting to market.

@godsakes 6 жыл бұрын

Well try a variant of the idea - A thin plastic cover similar to the metal protector with a stencil to cut a piece of gel to shape (a rectangle with a smaller circle kinda shape - which folds into a cylinder with cap) which you just slide inside the plastic cover

@ToolCraze 5 жыл бұрын

I think it's a great idea and totally feasible and I'm sure godox could make inexpensively. Even if I needed to buy individually.

@HomesickMac 6 жыл бұрын

Seems like you've stepped up the game with the lights and the whole environment when shooting the video. Would you mind sharing the equipment you're using there? Btw, I'm all for the bulb - used the other head very seldom so far. But, good to have. Interesting idea for the Round Head :-)

@benjaminleavitt3666 6 жыл бұрын

I think godox and magmod should team up. I do love me some magmod and I love godox. It’s meant to be!

@wendystumbaugh695 6 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Leavitt baby just let it be... ;-)

@rickymcc8624 6 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Leavitt understand the desire but it's almost certainly never going to happen. Chinese companies aren't traditional corporate collaborators they seem to prefer to copy (or steal) good ideas found elsewhere, leveraging price for competitive advantage. Harsh generalisation but often true. Also it's generally competition that drives innovation and consumer benefit. Amalgamating competitors is generally working against consumer interest.

@sergeyvasilishin5761 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe then Godox will have some kind of warranty that actually works. I tried to get warranty service from Godox with my under one year old Godox and I couldn't. I truly believe no one ever should buy Godox because of warranty scam better use Flashpoint equivalent.

@ronaldwarren7850 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Rob~ at about 1:25 you mention a link with the magnetic accessories. I'm having trouble finding that. Can you post a link? Thanx!

@laurencegrant2882 5 жыл бұрын

Do you think its better to use AD200's bare bulbs with and softboxes (36x36'') OR brollies. I used two AD200 with 47" brollies on a large 12 person family shoot and got a lot of shadows on the wall (admittedly they were too close to plain wall) then switched to fresnel heads and there was less shadows. I much prefer to use bare bulbs because better spread of light. Do you think there might have been too much 'spread' ?

@redeyeimages 6 жыл бұрын

How much heat C° must hold a gel for a barebulb? Maybe it is possible to 3D print them

@DravenTC 6 жыл бұрын

I liked MagMod but once I would attach it to my speedlight it would lock the zoom function up. I figured it was because of the magnets so I had to stop using them.

@maxxuman9915 6 жыл бұрын

Has anyone found a workaround for adding gels while using the current AD-B2 head, without having to fit them over each bulb?

@gurudeclan 6 жыл бұрын

0:36 to 0:50... THIS! So much!

@monarchpixels 5 жыл бұрын

Nice videos

@georgedisario2799 5 жыл бұрын

Great info as usual. Thank you. I'm having a misfiring problem with the 200's. Have you noticed this issue. If so how are you dealing with this problem? I have resorted to using Pocket Wizards as well but it kills me to take up the time adding them. Thanks in advance.

@robhallphoto 5 жыл бұрын

No I never experience misfires. Typically it's due to : EFCS on, not being in fill flash, inproper seating of trigger, or firmware issues. I know some users recently reported the most recent Sony firmware causing misfires. I haven't updated my cameras yet to avoid that.

@timnguyen4494 5 жыл бұрын

Anyone know why my Ad200 with its flash head always turn on the led light after a few shots and it wouldn't turn off. I use flashpoint trigger.

@sancho316 6 жыл бұрын

They should pay you for your awesome idea

@fotowalo 6 жыл бұрын

nice idea...I think I'll proceed with the barbulb untill....who knows :-)

@DeddyJingga 6 жыл бұрын

How about this WITSTRO H200R Ring Flash Head ? :)

@danielpadilha2197 3 жыл бұрын

Is the h200r More power than fresnel head and bare bulb?

@GilbertTV 6 жыл бұрын

the only thing I can think about round heads is that you get a nicer round catchlight in the eye...

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

That’s a common reasoning for an octabox vs rectangle softbox. Idk that it matters with such a tiny light source.

@GilbertTV 6 жыл бұрын

i think a round catchlight looks better but only really relevant with close up portraits

@vasyliyvasilev8772 6 жыл бұрын

Here is my ldea,for AD-B3. why they wouldn't put 3 bareball lamp in a bowens mount adapter and use 3meters cord to switch it to 3pcs of AD200 units(such as H1200 for ad600) And so on we will get 600w\s power source in 1 light weight adapter with generator or 3 gifferent power sources

@Chayachitrcar 6 жыл бұрын

Hey I have Nikon d5200 n I'm planning to buy this godox ad200 . So I want to ask that can I do high speed sync photography with my d5200 ?. It doesn't have fp mode actually .

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@WillKingPhoto 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this but I doubt that the bulb in the round head or any other existing bulb that's made for the AD200 is rated for 400ws. They would probably have to design another bulb that can handle double the power output.

@robhallphoto 5 жыл бұрын

No, exactly why my proposed idea would feature either two of the existing bulbs or a new one built dirextly into the head

@mjl1958 6 жыл бұрын

Will colour correction gels fit the 5-inch standard reflector?

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

They new gel system for this doesn’t seem to be compatible with either the 5” reflector or the new reflector design on the AD400 Pro.

@FrostyTheBeerMan 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, excellent idea ! - wow they need to hire you and pay you if they use your design. Remember everyone - you saw it here first ! --- and Robert... you KNOW Godox has watched your video... and are paying attention. P.S. - your Adorama link doesn't work, I clicked it and it was dead. The error that appears on my browser: The link you clicked on is malformed. Contact the editor of the originating page. " ....... I also went to the Adorama website and cannot find anything on the AD200 round head. I input "Godox AD200 round head" and got zero results. Hmm..... maybe they removed whatever preview they had there.

@zahirahakim9854 6 жыл бұрын

i like your idea, but i don't think godox will do it.but gelling a bare bulb is annoying and I do still fear about the heat melting my gels.

@groovesmedia989 6 жыл бұрын

Is that a Neo2 you used that's facing you? I see a circular light with a circle in the middle and I've got three of those...

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

? Like as a key light. No. AD600 Pro in softbox.

@groovesmedia989 6 жыл бұрын

Robert Hall Photography yeah as key. Got it. Thanks

@yanncabello5432 5 жыл бұрын

I do not really understand the use of this round head : Modeling lamp ? 4.3 watts o.O With modifier ? We lose bare bulb and the light is modeled a first time, like for any internal tube. Without modifier ? Which difference with AD-S2 ? Behind the plastic, this round head is really similar, quality of light too i presume. So ?

@jerryreed3271 5 жыл бұрын

What can you say about - Flashpoint eVOLV 200 Pro: Flashpoint eVOLV 200 Pro TTL Pocket Flash - Godox AD200 Pro

@robhallphoto 5 жыл бұрын

I can say it hasn't even been formally announced yet

@fotogmike5887 6 жыл бұрын

Forget magnets. If you have a round-headed unit, like the A1, then the filters and other accessories should SCREW onto the head like filters screw onto lenses. The attachment would work better and add less weight. People complain a lot that the A1's accessories fall off easily, and a threaded mount system would eliminate this problem completely. And yes, your modifiers would no longer grab onto every metal thing in your bag and equipment closet.

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

I think they avoid that because it would conflict with stacking on some designs.

@JCNY718 6 жыл бұрын

I have two A1s and I've used my friends ad200... a1s are much lighter, better designed, and also recycle much quicker. The AD200 is way more powerful, like a lot... Everything has its pros and cons, buy the best in your budget and shoot cool photos.

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

I'd consider the A1 more on par with a V860II as oppose to the AD200.

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

Also, as a matter of being thorough, the A1 does not recycle faster than an AD200. You have to equal their light output to compare their recycle speeds. At full power, the A1 recycles at 1.2s, the AD200 at 1/2 power would still be more light output than the A1 and be at 1s recycle time.

@JCNY718 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I tested each at full and the A1 seemed much faster albeit weaker... Rob you're channel is definitely converting me to godox, I've been spoiled at my studio with a ton of profoto gear (my company pays for.) I use two profoto pro 10 generators daily, do you think Godox will enter that space?

@peterxyz3541 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha😂👍🏼. I prefer my Godox as bare bulb or my potato mashers.

@trevr10 6 жыл бұрын

Lastolite used magnets years before Magmod in their Strobo range.... nothing is ever 'new' As to the round head.... maybe, as to your idea with the 400w modified AD-B2, it would certainly make it quicker to setup and easier to carry.

@user0K 5 жыл бұрын

Zoomable head for ad200 please XD

@ucnguyenminh9393 6 жыл бұрын

I don't think they would do that, to avoid cannibalizing their own AD400!

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

Look how many lights they make, he’ll just look at how many 400w AC strobes they produce. I don’t think they have any fear of cannibalizing if it means making products that will be well received.

@gosman949 6 жыл бұрын

I love the MagMod system. Too bad MagMod can't patent the idea!

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

You know, one time I commented in the Magmod community regarding the blatant “inspiration” of the Magmod system into the Profoto A1 and the President Spencer mentioned there were no hard feelings because of their patents. I’m not sure if he meant Magmod got paid for it or what, but he definitely wasn’t salty about it.

@paultaylor5513 3 жыл бұрын

Did your idea come to market?

@robhallphoto 3 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@therookiefisherman5234 4 жыл бұрын

so 2 ad200=400= $500.?

@JaredRibic 5 жыл бұрын

I used the dome diffuser ( adorama.com/fpddsl.html ) recently for event photography and loved it! I wish there was a larger Bowens mount equivalent that I could use with the AD-B2. What I REALLY want to know about is this A1 lookalike from Godox: instagram.com/p/BoMLJBxBoV_/?hl=en&taken-by=fjhphoto

@marcusfrank3271 6 жыл бұрын

i have no need for a round head

@frankzayas3103 6 жыл бұрын

I thought you were going to say that Godox came up with the round head just to give Profoto a good poke in the eye, or a one finger salute, both of which would be appropriate. I'm really not a Profoto hater but their insistence on calling their $1000 speed light a "studio strobe" just pisses me off.

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

I think they’ve done both those things already, personally. I hear lots of people going Profoto to Godox but not many the other way around.

@frankzayas3103 6 жыл бұрын

Robert Hall Photography I’m one of them! I sold my Profoto gear last fall and bought all the way into the Godox system: 2- AD600’s (I now have 3) 2 AD200’s a 360 and 4 speed lights. I have not missed the Profoto stuff one bit and haven’t looked back. I’ve had people tell me “yeah, but with Profoto you know its never going to let you down.” Well, the only piece of equipment I’ve ever had fail on my on a job-and it was a wedding- was my Profoto B2 kit, so they are not perfect either.

@shang-hsienyang1284 6 жыл бұрын

Why nobody bothered to make condom-like gels for bare bulbs?

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

Because those who take gels seriously tend to carry lots of colors, and often multiple of correction to match multiple lights. I probably have 40-60 gels, no way I'd want to carry that around.

@shang-hsienyang1284 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, I am only carrying 3 CTO gels and I am already complaining

@robhallphoto 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have color gels, and a TON of correction gels. I like to be prepared for 1/4, 1/2, full CTO, 1/2 and full CTB for up to 4 lights. That’s 20 right there. Then you have the different gels for barebulbs vs speedlites. I know not everyone is ridiculous as me but I think it would be clunky and expensive for a lot of people.