My Journey To The ‘Center’ of Pakistan

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Hello Everyone! Tonight in part 2 of my journey, Join me as I recount tales of navigating through controversies, reflect on ideological shifts, discuss the importance of logic-driven conversations and so much more.
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00:00 Part 2 Begins
00:32 Recap of Part 1
01:18 Exploring Majoritarian Views
03:35 My Journey into FAST: How it went?
05:15 Life in Karachi
06:18 A New Journey
08:20 Evolving Perspectives
11:30 The Internet Transition of 2013: Realities
12:39 Post-2013 Digital Revolution
13:15 Impact of Online Expression
14:53 Humanizing Perspectives
15:50 Unpacking Subconscious Biases
17:55 Internet's Impact on Pakistan: Diversity Access
20:27 The Importance of Understanding the “Why”
21:08 World Bank Experience: Ideological Growth
23:14 Leaving a Stable Job
25:08 Reassessing Western Ideologies
26:00 UNDP Panelist Experience: The Secularism Debate
34:41 How I got attacked by an activist?
36:28 Why I got into so many controversies?
37:42 The One Surrounding Aurat March
39:20 Advocating Holistic Thinking
41:15 The Response: I got cancelled!
44:16 Shifting Discourse Framework
45:50 Coming back to the Centre
47:03 Misconceptions about Left-Wing Ideologies
48:20 Other Instances
48:42 Creating a Space for Discourse
50:09 The Shehzad Ghias Podcast: What actually happened?
54:56 Others joined the bandwagon
56:06 Personal Reflections and Actions Taken
57:40 I don’t blame Them
58:11 Concluding Thoughts

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@IrfanJunejo 3 ай бұрын

Muzammil bhai mujhe ap se masla yeh hai ke when you thought I made fun of you on Kazi’s podcast I messaged you the same day and apologized but you didn’t even bother to reply but you posted in your closed fb group that Irfan is arrogant. A few months later, still no reply on that apology, a team member of yours reached out to me for an appearance on your podcast. Toh mere bhai itne professionalism se pehle thori basic courtesy pe bhi focus karien. Baki Arkg

@hasaan2024 3 ай бұрын

womp womp

@TBTGO 3 ай бұрын

Irfan bhai, Thank you for your message but I believe aap ki memory thori kamzor hai. Aapne publicly mera mazak uraya jiss per maine closed group pay logon ko kaha ke main aapko invite kar chuka houn multiple times laikin aap ka attitude uss clip main wazeh hai. Aapko kissi ne woh clip bheja tu aap ne mujhe aik voice note bheja jiss main aapne apologize karne ke bajaye koi random explanation bhej di jiss per i was annoyed and I didn’t respond. A month after that we met, interacted, joked and spoke to each other for 4+ HOURS at the Social Media Awards in Karachi. MANY months later my team reached out to you because I thought after our interaction which was very civil and friendly, we had let bygones be bygones. Even if you did have any confusions or misunderstandings, you could’ve reached out to me but, you, being true to your brand, again went out and publicly lashed at me on stories. Professionalism aur courtesy ke baaray main aap bhi thori self reflection kar lain. Hum tu bohat kar chuke.

@danishsiddiqui8692 3 ай бұрын

Abey yar na karo, you two are legends itni si baat hai, aik bar aur mil lo :D

@AbbasFaiz 3 ай бұрын

When your fav top 2 content creators are setting camps and you are confused as fuck, which fringe do you belong to. 🥹

@mohammadrehan823 Ай бұрын

@@TBTGO brother agr irfan bhai pehle bhi isi baat pr naraz hue hain ke aapne khud inhe ku ni bulaya tou 2nd time dobara se team member ke zariye se hi unko invite krna ghalat tha. I think so aap unki baat ka hadd se bura mana gye.......

@badarwaqar5228 3 ай бұрын

How do you manage to explain things well structured and clear? The sole point here is that we should be humble enough to accept our limited understanding of things and ready to evolve our thinking

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

We as a generation first must accept that we aren't humble enough and lack tolerance. We like to have an opinion about everything ( that's fine) and like to blame our elders/previous generations for every problem ( which isn't fine imho) but we as a generation aren't realising the problem we are creating in our society by being extremely arrogant and lacking humble Ness and sadly passing that into our younger siblings as well as kids. This is not a good sign for the future. I just hope millennials and gen z in our country together realize that problem and will correct it before it's too late

@shariqaijaz536 3 ай бұрын

@CuriosityJuice 3 ай бұрын

@@goals27 I would say that sense of ego in this and past generations come from our education system where we are made to believe false narratives of superiority and top of it parents generating sense of tribal superiority and then regional superiority and social color based superiority. I also hope we start to realize that problem but in the era of social media where everybody is looking for attention for some views and that views trigger that sense of superiority in them.

@rabiyasohail7534 3 ай бұрын

It reminds some great words from Dr. Israr Ahmed. A PHD can be emotional and a completely illiterate can be an intelligent person.

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

@@CuriosityJuice I don't think so education system is creating that mindset, and even that we are made to believe in any certain superiority.it's more of a media and social media making us that way now, previous generation wasn't that arrogant, this generation of ours doesn't have ounce of humility even though education system has been the same. As I said this generation need to realize that and change that culture with unity, but we aren't even realising that so it's far fetched idea right now

@alifromusa 3 ай бұрын

Hi muzammil. I am your age fellow. At the time you were in FAST i was doing my engineering from uet. I remember following your internet content from HOL on my slow internet at home. These 2 videos of yours have given words to my journey as well. I am not as articulate as you but I have travelled alot after my graduation. This has changed my thinking and provided me alot of things to think about. I wish i can meet you and talk alot about my journey. We are from the Golden Generation (1990). We really have suffered alot with vague point of views. We got caught between the Zia ul Haq inspired generation and the new ones born in the age of internet. I feel we had to wade through on our own to find the truth and many of our fellow brethren have not made that journey. Add to that the family responsibilities and deteriorating economy of beloved Pakistan. Thank you for your content.

@ammarhassan4571 3 ай бұрын

I agree with you,.... Being age fellow, we have been consistently on a transition track, which is not bad... Its a cycle of start liking, loving... Realization... Questioning and then hating that one idea... And then next and next

@drarif00 2 ай бұрын

یہ پوری جنریشن کی داستان ہے۔

@shazianasir8340 3 ай бұрын

Amazing podcast . Such clarity of thought and open mind. I am a Pakistani female physician living in US for last 30 years . The changes I felt after moving and getting exposed to diversity. This generation is lucky to have access to info and diversity

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

Yeah but if exposed to those without strong connection with roots and inferiorty complex then such access to info and Diversity will become a menace

@waqarzakaria8094 2 ай бұрын

Sir simple that our society is made like this in seven decades you must debate on our society

@fsyed89 3 ай бұрын

Hats off to you for staying grounded and bearing with the backlash. It shows your character. May Allah always protect you.

@usd00 3 ай бұрын

20:27 The Importance of Understanding the “Why”. This part was personally my "Dil ki Baat" 🔥

@UmairKhan-mr5vp 3 ай бұрын

I started listening to your thoughts after your podcast with Hafiz Naeem. Since then, I have watched several videos and I appreciate any person who talk with reasoning and rationale in addition to their pure intent of evolving after the discussion. Keep up the good work Muzammil bhai ❤

@HanifArif 3 ай бұрын

In a country like Pakistan, Opening out thoughts & philosophies of life to the public is truly a bravery act. You are one of the few individual that is shaping a new ray of thoughts for the new generation.

@moin7699 3 ай бұрын

Muzammil, just like many other ordinary middle-class Pakistanis, shares a common feeling of confusion. It seems that the voices of the left and right dominate the discourse because those of us in the center, (who I believe make up the majority), are also uncertain and tend to remain silent. It's crucial for the positive aspects of our society to be heard.-- Moreover, your ability to captivate an audience for an entire hour with nothing but your words demonstrates an incredible depth of substance. Unlike flashy vloggers with music, drone shots, and highlighters, your simple yet profound thoughts command attention solely through their authenticity.

@imtiaz4201 3 ай бұрын

Stand with truth no matter it's against Conservative or Liberal.

@quonxinquonyi8570 3 ай бұрын

For absolute truth you would have to research past/ history and history is biased coz it is written or modified by the superpower of this time….this is the only “ fundamental truth “ associated with modern history…so what to do now,we are in the paradox….now come the important part to mitigate this paradox of biased history,and this mitigation is through imaan( faith)… can we make a trade off between two???? Million dollar question which is more tilted towards liberal than the conservatives religious group,coz of the unbalanced segmentation of modern world

@siddique.abubakr 3 ай бұрын

do you know "truth"?

@quonxinquonyi8570 3 ай бұрын

@@siddique.abubakr that “know it all” attitude,which is presented as woke in this modern world is just blind following of liberalized world which is in state of irreversible decay

@k.komega 3 ай бұрын

That's the psychology of Islam ,Stand with truth even if it goes against you

@imtiaz4201 3 ай бұрын

@@k.komega and if the truth goes against Islam then?

@hfdgraphics5236 3 ай бұрын

How can be someone so humble with their critics?

@bilalmahmood2944 3 ай бұрын

The crux of this vlog is to tolerate the others opinion and present your point of view in a cultural way with respect. Thanks Muzamil for your valuable roller coaster of your life! May Allah bless you

@Alikimastian 3 ай бұрын

Muzzamil, you are such a gentleman. Rational, logical and humble. I never find you arrogant

@gulwali9523 3 ай бұрын

I don't usually comment on stuff. But I wanted to say this is high class content, with proper reasoning and proper analysis of everything.

@mab1 3 ай бұрын

💯

@muhammadumairsaleem5672 3 ай бұрын

Agreed

@GreatVoid-es8ob Ай бұрын

chup yahudi

@saleemullah5974 Ай бұрын

Agreed

@imhashir 3 ай бұрын

I've been following you for a long time, and I openly say this to everyone that a lot of what I do, my ideas and my plans, are something I learned from your podcasts. These last two videos where you explained your whole background are really important for someone who is following you for a long time and watch a lot of your content. They help us better understand your opinions, why you hold the beliefs you do and why you say what you say. You really made us go through this whole journey from center to far left and back to center. Man I really appreciate everything you are doing. Unlike a lot of clickbait influencers, you are not doing this for the views or money only. Because a lot of the videos you have done recently cannot get a lot of views. They are not fun topics or something that people in Pakistan feel very interested in. But they are filled with absolute gem of a content. You are building a legacy. I don't think I've ever commented on any of your videos, though I've watched a lot of them and always "Liked" them. But I really wanted to appreciate you and thank you for all of your efforts. You are a huge inspiration. You might not remember me but we met in Dubai on Gitex and I was blown away by your absolute humbleness. Feel honored to have met you. Keep going.

@zareebadirect6700 3 ай бұрын

Muzamil and hamna speaks so much wisdom, im 21 years old medical student and have been listening to you to for the last 2-3 years, you both have shaped my viewpoints on alot of aspects of life so thankyou sm ❤️

@22Clippers 3 ай бұрын

""When You blindly follow an ideology than all logic goes down the drain"" ( syed Muzamil Hasan ) .

@zeus2975 2 ай бұрын

Isn't that like the very definiton of religious faith?

@extremelyeccentric7138 Ай бұрын

@@zeus2975Yes. But in case of Pakistan it is too much.

@aqsaali2670 3 ай бұрын

I am also from a middle-class family, my father was a rickshaw driver back then, and he saved every penny to send me for higher education, now I have a career and a good social life I was not from an upper class and still not. I know so many people from middle-class families who manage their finances so well to maintain their lives. When I saw your middle-class viral clip I could easily relate to it.

@fansari1000 3 ай бұрын

The quality of your podcasts is unmatchable.

@fansari1000 3 ай бұрын

@@stocks7140 excuse me? Kahan ki frustration hai bhai? Read my comment again.

@nomanalimazhar2985 3 ай бұрын

@@stocks7140 weed?

@ShakeelAhmed-007s 3 ай бұрын

@@stocks7140 bhai wo podcast ki tareef kar rahi. Chill karein

@techyboy01 3 ай бұрын

@@stocks7140 charas p?

@techyboy01 3 ай бұрын

@@fansari1000 kia ap mj sy dosti kro ge

@MajidMushtaqOfficial 3 ай бұрын

Couldn’t skip a single sec of both these parts and waiting for the 3rd one! Just like my last comment, Muzammil you are a gem ✨🫶 Always rooting for you and may you keep inspiring us all!

@mullagee3508 Ай бұрын

He is playing gaming in Commercial market 😂😂😂 rawalpindi now he is lecture whole pakistan cutiaaa

@7muti 3 ай бұрын

Doing English literature I could clearly see lot of lads diverting, and diving into isms, what i learnt is 1. Why confuse ourselves when we have got holy guidance along with practical models of three best generations of Sahaba, tabiyeen and atba tabiyeen, 2. that there are no isms, ideologies, discussions to follow, they are just a lopehool, the only salvation is what Our Creator calls salvation, revelation and the way of three best generations applying that in their lives, He created us also sent a manual to follow, to me its all just that simple, i applied, it really is❤ my opinions

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

100%. I am curious though why muzammil said he aggressively disagrees with Raja qaiser and youth club and indirectly called them radical elements, but didn't point out any specific stuff which comes out from them which he finds wrong.

@user-ci2ge2fm1e 3 ай бұрын

@@goals27 he also has not highlighted where he disagrees with Shezad Ghias, so I think u should not worry

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

@@user-ci2ge2fm1e he actually did he said he's very dishonest and lack class. He didn't mention the Reason of his disagreement with Youth club

@junaidiqbal0000 23 күн бұрын

Agreed 100%.

@MrAhmed-dx5hw 3 ай бұрын

I feel like most of the liberal start like you. We try to logically debate with the right. But Talking from my experience we get fed up and also become (leftist) extremists and start outraging. Kudos to you for still trying to have logical debates. It also motivates me to revisit my (maybe) logical self that I was an year ago.

@KashifAli-gh6py 3 ай бұрын

I'm 17 years removed from you in age (that makes me 17, of course : ). But I can relate to exactly what you're saying. My generation hasn't done much better in setting a good, centrist, middle of road example for discourse. For that matter, we in the US have the same issue (within our own context). Keep up the good work. Much, much needed.

@harisamin8603 2 ай бұрын

The day i started watching your content i knew i have struck gold. I can't be grateful enough for how much you've shaped my perspective about different fringes in Pakistan. I've learnt to humanize people's perspective because of you. Your intellect and approach is way beyond the likes of shahzad and Syed Muzammil. I can understand what trauma you must have gone through after what Shahzad did just for his puny viewership. Trust me bhai they envy your intellect and wisdom so they find means to pull you down to level with you. These pseudo intellectuals can only do sasti comedy to gain traction. So worry not, true believers in rationale can tell the diff between clowns and Heros...And you're our HERO Muzammil Bhai♥️

@shaheryarmuhammad6799 3 ай бұрын

50:00 Shezad bhai ko siraf apsay masalah nai hay, he just generally dislikes anyone with an opposing point of view. Everyone saw what he was trying to do in that podcast, acting innocent and gas lighting you, saying ' Mainay tou yeh apko kaha hi nai'. Bro has victim mentality.

@muwahhidzeb2923 3 ай бұрын

Muzammil been listening to you for very long and mentally I'm in the same space as you are, being in the center is the actual privilege and rarely would people understand this but i think individually a person can adopt this central space, in terms of masses, as a people we would always be attracted to a fringe bcz that's how mass psychology works.

@BitsDiscovery 3 ай бұрын

When some people take this as out of context , the Possible thumbnails could be: 1:What is problem of Muzammil with Ghayas. 2: According to Muzammil, ghayas is Arrogant? 3: Muzammil and Ghayas fight But Muzammil you did very well, i completely agree. everyone have a different background and different experience. You cannot impose your opinion on other nor you can change others perspective by Zoor And zbrdasti ❤

@AbdulAziz-pm6lk 3 ай бұрын

Muzammil bhai! There is no match between u and that fool u talked. You are a national hero who showed whats the best in this country for last 3 years when everyone showed there is no hope. I am currently learning MERN stack, dream to be among best coders out of this country someday , and owe much of this energy to you. You mean a lot to this country. Love to see u doing even greater impactful things. You are our champion ❤

@aminajaved8199 Ай бұрын

Best of luck, moiz with your studies. Muzzamal is really a gem. God bless the man.❤

@uzairmughal9383 3 ай бұрын

Language evades me when I try to express the beauty of this video. I went through this same journey from ultra-right to ultra-left, by identifying the irrationalities and hypocrisies of both camps. Now, I don't believe in camps, I believe in having specific data-backed opinions on specific issues regarding politics, economics, religion, social structures etc. As Oscar Wilde said: To define is to limit. I never thought that I would find such logical content from a Pakistani youtuber, being introduced to you proved to be one of the best things in my digital life. It's very hard to be rational in our divisive, intolerant, and judgemental world so I hope that God gives you courage to succeed in your journey! My learning from this video was that we should try harder to be humble, and to recognize our privileges and to be patient with people who have had difficult lives than us. I think there is a lot I need to learn in this domain. You don't have to 'disprove' or 'debunk' someone, you just have to 'understand' it, which is the hardest thing in the world.

@khipksy1888 3 ай бұрын

Just a small reminder. Fast Karachi corner building was not set on fire due to political differences, it was set on fire on 27th dec, when Benazir died.

@user-nz6ly7nt7w 3 ай бұрын

And that's not political?

@Faizanealiqazi 3 ай бұрын

@@user-nz6ly7nt7w FAST has a land dispute with people there. They have occupied the land that has been allocated to FAST.

@stabinhaider 3 ай бұрын

It's good that you have got the capacity to reflect on your experiences, understand your biases and update your opinion rather than be an egoistic person. May Allah keeps taking some good work from you in life.

@Helohelo464 3 ай бұрын

Great to hear from you Muzammil. I remember your Lolz studio page on Facebook. Me and my buddies used to follow your page in 2010-11. Your content was different back then too. You had posted a picture of your travel inside US where you were the only passenger on a flight and we used to judge kia burger londa ha yr. Its so good to hear your full story, more power to you and May Almighty Allah bless you.

@SaifAli96 3 ай бұрын

Muzamil, thank you a lot for sharing your story! Watching you since HoL and always find your work inspirational and positive.

@thehussansiddiqui 3 ай бұрын

After watching both videos...I would like you to have a podcast with Faisal waraich.I am totally getting your point.The whole Transformation is relatable to me.like wise people usually don't understand me too most people try to score beyond logic.Study,Study and analyze in paradigm of society and problem statement that's what logic says.

@user-ci2ge2fm1e 3 ай бұрын

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@hassanshahid2279 3 ай бұрын

An amazing podcast. I'm usually quiet viewer, but I had to say it. Also, a request, if you don't mind: have you considered adding English subtitles? I have friends who don't speak urdu who I'd love to show your podcasts to

@rehansatti102 3 ай бұрын

hey Muzammil, genuinely I don't comment much! but man understanding your side of the story was heart whelming, I remember when the trend outraged against you being called the so-called Middle Class, and being a student of Roots in H8 ISB, I can confirm all these things that I have also survived 2 different lifestyles and it has made me grow mentally! and has increased acceptance, thank you so much for being genuine in how you feel! no one is perfect other than Allah so don't worry

@muhammadmudassirsiddiqui3030 3 ай бұрын

Don't compare yourself to Junaijo or Ghiaz. You have a totally different educational background and vision. You didn't grow up just playing football or doing other trivial things. I completely understand your thoughts, and to be honest, I feel proud when I realize that I share the same vision: "k choor ko na pakro, usnay chori q ki us wajah ko pakro" because there is always a reason behind any action. Best of luck, brother

@rajaahsanfarooq7349 3 ай бұрын

1:01:34 brother we are listening to more power to you and to be honest I have evolved so much by consuming your content so for that Thank you ❤

@core6702 3 ай бұрын

50:58 Muzamil bhai actually you are a good person so you go trying to figure out why some people have a problem with you The thing is some people get off on bringing others down And you cant change a person who doesnt want to change himself So just dont waste your energy on why these people have issues with you If you look closely you will find them doing the same to others as well Like the person in question has proven time and time again how he turns his podcast into an interrogation of sorts So yea Keep doing what you do We love you ❤

@sarfrazz3055 3 ай бұрын

Tommorow is my paper, but watched this nonstop😅. you're gem man❤

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

Pass hojana bas 😂. Good luck for tomorrow

@sarfrazz3055 3 ай бұрын

@@goals27 Paper acha hogya, thanks bro😅

@goals27 3 ай бұрын

@@sarfrazz3055 that's Great 😃

@mariamqasim2973 3 ай бұрын

When someone criticises another person, it mostly comes from a place of inadequacy. There is a huge possibility that when u speak from a place authenticity, embodying what you believe, then it may trigger ppl who struggle to do the same, or aspire to be as brave. You should take such feedback with a pinch of salt, these ppl may be in awe 😄

@asmaar2178 3 ай бұрын

Amazing. Aag lga di 🔥 Pure rational thinker, a person who can bear and respect other people views and perspective is a real intellect. I watched these both parts today and kudos man! That’s how you be real without supporting whatever ideology blindly. Sometimes I struggle with both sides, because we need to be a little understanding and flexible to actually understand someone’s point of view. Thanks for making me jump out of this box because lately I was ashamed for being leftist after listening to extreme liberals, im glad there are people like you who are pointing the wrong doings of both sides. I hate when liberals bash religion just to prove a point, but somethings are culture injected and we name it religion problem. I never had an hour long video go by this fast. Keep doing what you doing, I literally had to change device to come subscribe you with my logged in account.

@humemahkhalid891 3 ай бұрын

The problem is that you are a nice islambadi guy who have a good heart.Ap woh keh dety hai j apko sahi lagta hai.Ju bhi ideology ku support krty hai openly krty hai aur agr yor opinion changes than you openly accept it.Yeh woh kam hai ju junejo aur shehzad nahi krsakty. Unki podcast shahzaib khanzada style hai.Cheekhna chilna logo ku degrade krna qk intellect nahi hai , upar jany k liye kisi ku neche tu karainge na

@hassanashraf8772 3 ай бұрын

Hi Muzzamil, I found your video very informative, and I learned a lot from the challenges you've faced and overcome. It's incredible to see your resilience. I also appreciate the importance you place on addressing humanity. However, I want to share a personal struggle: I often find it difficult to communicate comfortably with people of higher status,upper-class. I feel a sense of pressure that i am trying to impress them in order to gain favor, whether it's my unit head, teacher, or anyone else in authority. As a result, I find it difficult to befriend individuals of upper class or higher status, even if they express interest in forming a bond with me. Despite my efforts, overcoming this issue remains a challenge.

@DreamingWithRehan 3 ай бұрын

FACT: Religion is not the problem. The way of interpreting religion is a problem.

@case497 3 ай бұрын

Really love you Muzzmil bhai ❤️ Life learning video for all middle class Pakistanis ...! I'm a woman from a village of Gilgit Baltistan, love your logics ..you never look arrogant.!

@muhammadhamzarafaqat34 3 ай бұрын

I came from a village and am studying at the University of Agriculture, Faisalabad. I've been listening to your first podcast, and I've learned a lot from you. Because of you, I have evolved significantly. My mind has opened up, and I've explored the Weston World podcasts. I am a much better person now, having evolved a lot. My worldview now is to watch and listen to everything with rationality. Thank you so much for what you're doing. Lots of love from my side ❤😊

@aminajaved8199 Ай бұрын

Welcome to Faisalabad. Have a good experience there at agriculture University. ❤

@Haseebahmed19 3 ай бұрын

Salam One of the best, rational and genuine issues highlighting Podcasts ever. I have rarely commented on any video on youtube but I would give you a round of applause for this. Keep doing these types of videos ❤

@_arshadm 28 күн бұрын

Just because the majority want something doesn't mean it's right. Religion cannot be discussed rationally, because it is so tied up with ones identity, culture, and respect for societal norms and order. To argue against is to disrespect ones parents and elders. But one can still say that it wrong, just because you have a culture doesn't mean it serves you well and gives your people a way forward. The American Indians also had a beautiful culture, but they died because a people with superior knowledge and skills arrived on their shores. Was it right for them to keep to their rain dances, and wandering out barefoot. Or should their leadership if rethought the new reality from ground zero, and accept their culture was unique but that it was not fit for purpose. Islam as practiced Pakistan is not fit for purpose. It was once a great leap forward, but adopting it now is a great leap backward from where the world is now.

@muks_h6991 3 ай бұрын

These are the exact well-balanced perspectives and critical thinking converstaions we need in Pakistan today. Thank you so much Muzammil for bringing us your life story. Your level of rationality and empathy for both sides is commendable MashaAllah. Stay blessed brother!

@hafsahmustafa 3 ай бұрын

I think your journey is the journey of every middle class in Pakistan. It seems to me like you have opened up a pandora's box so be ready for the back lash 😞 but do know that there are many ppl like us who r proud of you n praying for you. Ppl like you give us hope that we still have young man who think positively . I always wanted to tell you n this is my first time commenting in ur channel...You did a great favor to a lot of us ... u gave us hope by showing that we have Ma she Allah such great talented ppl still living in Pakistan. May Allah SWT protect you from all evil.

@Muhammad-hb5zf 3 ай бұрын

Hello muzamil, I have been listening to your podcasts on and off for a while now. I am also from bahawalpur (did my schooling from SPS bahawalpur) and I'll graduate this year from a very prestigious institute in ISB. I have watched your previous video and this too and loved how you shared your thoughts and journey. The part where you told I became a westernized and west oriented boy (khooni liberal), so do I feel as of this moment because of my schooling and because of the institute I am educating right now and after hearing your thoughts. It really changed my spectrum of seeing and observing things. It broadened my vision. The good thing is I have developed a sense of humanization and adaptability as my horizon has changed from moving from a small, underprivileged city to the capital. And by yourself as a depiction of ideal or sort of; I am pleased to know that I am on right path to get to know people and adapt myself accordingly and humanizing at the same time. I thank you for making this video and I know that my regards won't be enough for you or your channel but seriously, alike me, boys who came with same background as me and educating in the best institute in ISB; ALL admire you and follow you and I think your talk and your efforts are paying off if for the betterment of the upcoming generation it may be ❤. I see you as a mentor ❤. Lots of love and please keep up with the channel. It is inspiring not only middle class, but also upper, lower middle and also elite class as well as you provide a wide spectrum of vision to look upon the things as they are in a very descriptive and comprehensive way. Again, thanks muzamil. PS, bahawalpur ka chakar lage to lazmi batana One more thing, this is my first comment on any channel on youtube and your video make me do it

@FarazKhanYousafzai 3 ай бұрын

I 've known your work since the beginning basically and since last few years I started watching podcasts. My views changed when I saw that TPE podcast generally but recently I see so much self-righteousness in some circles and it's really annoying. Targeting one person every few months seems to be a norm in those circles. They've become the celebrities people like me hated and consumed more social media therefore. And it's kinda obvious now too that they're doing it for views and drama, just like traditional media. It's such a shame seriously, this was one of the good things about the serious social media (not the influencer side but the serious side of it) and now we're losing that too unfortunately. And for what?

@NoumanArif007 3 ай бұрын

I consider you as smart as Junaid Akram, both of you are definitely making a change in society. On the other hand, we have Sain Shahad Gayaz who is just going with the flow, as of now he is just bashing Imran Khan and supporting the current regime.

@MrAhmed-dx5hw 3 ай бұрын

Junaid Akram has made racist joke on Saraikis many times. But even as a Saraiki I still watch him. That is because both Junaid and our boy muzamil try to listen to the guest instead of trying to convert them to their personal ideas.

@smartize 29 күн бұрын

After seeing his video "100 days of Punjab Govt" he doesnt seem that smart xD

@drsairasarfraz 3 ай бұрын

Yar muzammil bhai...shuru se hi dekh rhy hain apko....ap bilkul sahi kertay rahay ho...or ker rahay ho. Shehzaad wali podcast k baad so feesad pata tha k kya takleef hai usko... Tension na lain...buhat himmat hai jo aise logo ko berdasht kertay ho...or us se b bari himmat hai sab k samnay ye batain kerna ❤ more power to you

@murtazajamani 3 ай бұрын

A very good example of a clear Pakistani centrist position and advocacy

@FatimaKhan86_ 3 ай бұрын

Hooked with this series !

@Wanderer975 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately most right/left wing activists in Pakistan see everything very superficially. They look at things as black and white. You are right about syed muzammil, ghias,..etc. They are very much partial. They would talk about democracy and human rights only when left wing activists/supporters are in trouble. There ideological ground is restricted to like minded people. They show double standards in discussing similar cases. Religious people label liberals as aliens or west's blind followers who promote obscenity and atheism in the society. While liberals (extremist liberals) would label religious people as illiterate, fundamentalists and narrow minded. Although it could be true in few cases, but both factions generalise it and see everyone from the same lenses.

@mrfaiqop837 3 ай бұрын

Hey Muzammil👋:"Could you please share your insights on the current state of the IT sector and the future of AI globally"? Additionally, what steps can Pakistani youth take to prepare themselves for the future in these fields?

@zebbynebby 3 ай бұрын

yaar paste karte waqt quotation marks toh hata lia karo

@biyaji1 3 ай бұрын

It's really not easy to get so open about something you experienced knowing ppl might have conflicting feedback, but again its a learning journey..and we are learning too. Thank you for making it a shared process. JazakAllah ❤️

@umairmirza4383 3 ай бұрын

Hi Muzammil, was just listening to your podcast while driving and I parked on the side to respond to this podcast. Your articulation is awesome. Shahzad Ghias was dropped as a child, these people don't understand that what you are portraying of yourself is a culmination of the brought up that you had. Nobody does that in a podcast, you were a guest and guests are not treated that way. Coming to Junejo, that guy has depression and anxiety issues with random attacks, I use to follow him and then started his scripts that I need a break from socials and I can't do this and I have money so I will just sit and eat and then think what I will do next.. getting offended on a team member reaching out, is this your humbleness you preach Junejo ? Seriously.. he talks about having partnership with God and what not but how you treat your fellow human beings portrays the reality in you. In the end, I just want to say Muzammil, keep doing what you are doing. You have been an Amazing podcaster. Love your work and content that you provide.

@tajdar 26 күн бұрын

Bro, its really simple. You're perceiving everything around you getting cancelled from the lens of a sunni male that enjoys massive privilege in a country like Pakistan, however unbeknowest it may be to its holders. This circle is usually influenced by Saudi foreign policy and (usually) aligns domestic and global view points accordingly. You will truly understand what happened to you when you step out of both those priviledged zones and see how your publicly vocal views impact the lives of people in the minority (literally anyone who isn't sunni and/or male).

@chursenation 3 ай бұрын

We Pakistani's and desi community in general world wide are mostly farigh culture , we are growing but very slowly our attitudes keep us down we don't grow as a civilization. I think its good just to ignore criticism and do the great work you are doing , not much use in responding to criticism in overall cosmos of time and wasting your energies and potential.

@user-ci2ge2fm1e 3 ай бұрын

there is advantage in responding to criticsm, no need to be a good meek person but be a good strong person, e.g one advantage in this case would be people diverting to his content after watching his response to crticism, and obviously, I agree with not making reacting to criticisms the whole point of the channel

@quonxinquonyi8570 3 ай бұрын

@nomannizar7600 3 ай бұрын

I generally never comment on anyones content but honestly this was something which allows me as a teenager to go through a life journey of someone who changed the way how he thought and this is really the need of the society at this moment. Remarkable skills Muzammil Bhai. You are indeed an asset to my youtube wall

@kako9261 3 ай бұрын

I didn’t even know the other podcasters you mentioned you should charge them for advertising 😂

@isfacadmy7648 3 ай бұрын

When you are going to invite individuals from right side, like Sahil Adeem, Youth Club Speakers and Qaiser Ahmed Raza Etc?

@hdsz7738 3 ай бұрын

53:30 you're right, shehzad ghias has got beef with many people. he literally enforces his believes on everyone who comes to his podcast. But you're doing a great job. keep it up

@thedarkone6706 29 күн бұрын

Sialkot men 2008 se Broadband connection available tha. 1300/rs per month unlimited. It has been cheaper in Pakistan to use Internet.

@AhmadBajwa-li1ui 3 ай бұрын

Muzammil Bhai You are the Only Source of Inspiration for Me. Stay Happy and stay Blessed .

@hamzasyed5774 3 ай бұрын

This video of your journey is very relatable to my own. Growing up in US as a Muslim kid it was always easy to be a liberal as conservatives here have a rather negative view of Islam and Muslims. But as I've grown up it is not easy to be in one camp or another as there are pros and cons. Still as Muslims in US left is more sympathetic towards our causes but right is more relatable to certain issues. So eventually you have to be in the center and be able to rationalize both sides.

@quonxinquonyi8570 3 ай бұрын

@marriumkhan2115 25 күн бұрын

I remember watching your podcast with Taimur Rehman. It was soooo poorly conducted. You might think you were being non-partisan, but you were far from logic. There was a lack of humility from your side since you barely let your guest speak. Maybe you were too new at this podcast business then, but that ticked me off and i never came back to your channel. I actually came back here to watch why Shezad Ghias got so upset 😉

@emanbibi932 Ай бұрын

Ap jaisy log he jo asal change la sakty he. Allah ap ki mazeed madad kary aur isi tara pure rakhy Insha'Allah

@muhammadasiffarooqi7672 3 ай бұрын

Brother i cant express my emotions to you. Seriously, i loved your act of putting your jouney here, i have learned soo much. Would love to know what things are not good on right side.

@younusali9656 3 ай бұрын

This whole thing really change my persoective of thinking.A very eloborative and general motivational toward rational thinking. Keep it coming you doing a great job ❤

@muhammadayaz2747 3 ай бұрын

I opened video only to watch a min to boost your views , ended up watching whole video 👏🏻🙌 I have no words just hats off to you

@ayeshafareedsyed8560 3 ай бұрын

No I definitely agree that Shahbaz was unfair to you. Recently when I was debating with someone pro PTI, I had to let them understand that we were both on the whole on one side, a better Pakistan. That is what these influencers forget while reporting or questioning

@harshittiwari7424 3 ай бұрын

Watched your video on my "shocking experience in russia" love the video and hooked on to your channel.....i disagree with some of your opinion but in total loved the videos.❤

@fansari1000 3 ай бұрын

Where is the part 3. I kept waiting 😄

@moeenmahmood1986 3 ай бұрын

Amazing articulation. One of the best I have heard. A true dill ki baat. Muzzamil I can relate to you a lot. Having gone through private schools and elite university in Pak and then finding that I knew nothing about my religion which started a new phase in my life of going back to the basics and rediscovering myself. I hope the light that I see in you will benefit our country for many years to come.

@batooniexplorers 3 ай бұрын

Watched it full and loved it !! 1st of all , please make video on propagandas of other states as well , because i often think about it , that they also manipulate their past and people not just pakistan . And then please tell difference between them and pakistan that they are ahead of us 🤔 Secondly , i agreen with you on putting people in boxes and not understanding them. I also listen to Syed Muzammil shah , although he gave me new perspectives and i have learnt many things from him but whenever i listen to him , i disagree with him at many things , so ya these two things i related with you . And you are really articulate , mashallah ❤❤ Although it seems absurd , but will collab with you one day , inshallah !!

@pharmacistips860 3 ай бұрын

The Rational Does Not Exist in this World. Only Propaganda Works. Hats off to your work.

@ibtehaj-khan 3 ай бұрын

The middle class incident was too hard for me to witness. Since then, I don't watch Shehzad's content anymore.

@sharmeenfatima5539 3 ай бұрын

You're a true gem 💎 in the content creation industry of our country Muzammil Bhai.😭 phly h aap favorite thy lekin ab apki story sunne k bd toh Ap aur b zyda achyy lag rahy hain ...>>> You're too good honestly...May ALLAH Almighty bless you & your family. Rafael is genuinely lucky to have such a rational humble and awesome Father. We are also fortune enough to hear you & learn from you. Tbvh, I have personally evolved after hearing your & tbt's guest thoughts. Keep up doing the best work bro💯🔥 Keep building the legacy. SMHZ Zindabad 💎✨ +++ Loving this Dil k Baat series so so much!

@waqarfanatic376 3 ай бұрын

Very impressive, what i most like in your videos is that you speak the truth you don't try , to be artificial.

@minahilmasood298 3 ай бұрын

Loved your thought process. When I started using Instagram in 2016 I didn't find your content relatable enough. I was like they are just some rich influencers from Islamabad. But from the past one year I have watched your podcasts . I really loved your podcast with IIU professor who talked about euro centric thought system . From that point I realized that you were open to learning from the conservatives. Keep inspiring ❤️

@SHPK123 3 ай бұрын

Muzamil you are a gem! A lot of people can relate to this including myself and it is absolutely critical that we carve out a space where the fringes (both left and right) can debate with intellectual honesty and mutual respect. Let the best ideas win!

@humemahkhalid891 3 ай бұрын

I have a question? Jab app karachi se wapis chale gaye aur aik gap year liya.So you know hamare yahan yeh kitna bara failure hai to phir how did you face poeple and their questions muzammil kiya kara raha hai ajkal?University chori to q? Your reply will help alot to people facing the some consequences

@KhizarKhan2001 3 ай бұрын

depends on your family, i dont think meri family mai kisi ko koi issue hoga ager mai gap year lon

@jetbllackwings 3 ай бұрын

while we’re on the topic of diversity in Pakistan, i’ve also observed this new trend of prejudice against Saraikis. people love making memes calling them “chappri, chor, Karachi ko ganda karne wale”. not to sound like a saint because i used to have a chuckle at these memes as well but it has gone too far and every word you said is so true to present day internet dynamics in Pakistan.

@Helohelo464 3 ай бұрын

Btw i think you need to get on the Eon Podcast. That would be a podcast worth listening to.

@DanishAdeel 3 ай бұрын

Wow, loved the whole story, so many things are relatable, I have more respect for you know, cant wait for the next episode, keep the good work bro, you are an asset for Pakistan, future is yours. Now I realize why are you so much concerned of comments some times.

@mobeenhameed2843 3 ай бұрын

Just want to tell that there are also many people with a similar world view so do not feel isolated when you get cancelled by any of the sides and keep saying the "Dil ki Baat"

@HassanShams01 3 ай бұрын

Same story, I was brought up in an extreme right environment, then saw the irrationality, then shifted to far left, got disappointed. You just have to be honest, that is all it takes.

@jali140 3 ай бұрын

No brother I was listening to the end I do watch shehzad I watch irfan junejo And i love both of them I stand strongly with you brother I loved how maturely you described the situation and in a very humane manner. Good luck for future and more power to you

@FaizanAhmedg1t Күн бұрын

After listening to both parts of your videos, I completely agree with your analysis of Pakistan's current situation. It's evident that the country is in a highly complex and challenging position. I also agree with your point about the divide between different educational systems. The English O/A Level system tends to be superior in terms of academics and preparing students for the global market, which is crucial for navigating the modern world. However, if you plan to live in Pakistan, it’s important to understand and appreciate both systems, as each has its strengths at different stages. There’s no offense meant to those who support the English system they are correct in their own right, given their experiences and the expectations placed upon them by their families. The main issue seems to be that the country operates in a way that benefits only a small, financially secure segment of the population. Essentially, the system is structured to cater to about 10% (Elite bubble) of the people, creating a divide where those who are financially stable transition from being "normal" Pakistanis to being part of a privileged bubble.

@Fezicles83 3 ай бұрын

Really interesting insight into your thought process Muzammil Bhai, Thanks alot for doing what you've done for our people till now! Really appreciate it and looking forward to more such videos!

@saniaimam5682 3 ай бұрын

I’ll be very honest, before listening to these videos I wasn’t a big fan of you and quite frankly I had put you in boxes too. But I’d really appreciate you for making these videos and sharing your whole journey with us. This has definitely changed my perspective about you and I’m definitely looking at you in a different light now. And not just that, your thoughts about being rational, being a good listener, not outright canceling others has really made me think about my own thought process. Once again, thanks a lot for sharing this! Looking fwd to the next parts!

@MAliBabarAbbasi 2 ай бұрын

This is the real honest stuff. Can understand what he is saying since I was born in 1990 myself. Glad to hear Muzamil’s philosophy around how average rational person is going to arrive close to centre eventually, it’s spot on.

@hammasahmad2750 3 ай бұрын

You're an inspiration when it comes to dealing with all of these negative externalities. It's mentally exhausting when you can't figure out what exactly is other's rationale behind them reacting in a certain way, all you can do is to continue finding the right way and remain firm on your principles and ideology