Im a LS main too. Its very sad too see they never fixed helm breaker. So now ive been using the other 13 weapons.

Im a gs and ls main ive legit started to use my gs more now its sad

😆 "i wont lose my mental sanity and my time" lol I find it funny reading this after seeing this many runs from u 😂

So is the glitch then because the hitbox from HB comes a little after you actually do the attack so if you use HB and the monster moves another part of it's body into the lingering hitbox then that part takes some of the HB damage?

I was so confused lately. I genuinely thought I was just missing hits since I thought that shit got fixed before. Turns out they fucked it up again. This is the most used and most bugged weapon in the game. Wtf is Capcom doing?

*G R A S S*

@@DogeSargeant kusa

草

0:41 pause

Yeah me and my boy Alatreon trying to hunt down the impossible monster named "Peppo"

What about the ice flares?

Nasty-looking Navi that was an actually body hit

Yeah I love it when I land on the head but get a load of miserable grey numbers from everywhere but the head

Based on the position, it almost looks like the hit box clipped the chest spikes while falling, but maybe it has something to do with the player's position, since all the 'failed' hits have the player a lot closer to Ala's neck than the rest, and the hitbox is checking near the hilt? I dunno, I'm not an LS main and this is the first I've heard of this, but maybe

@@thechilzer7803 It doesn't make sense sometimes. You can even see it in this video on the second example where the grey hits are actually behind him. Logical thinking would have you believe the way it works is the hitbox for helmbreaker is vertical since it's a falling attack, but sometimes the actual hits are landing on a horizontal line.

it hurts your pride with anime cringe, thats how they balance helmbreaker

sportagus3 the Helm Splitter clipped the wing too, a tiny bit. It was in range during the fall.

The chest hits were worse offenders, he did kinda clip the wing with the swing but I don't understand the chest hits at all.

Cringe

aww but thats not as satisfying

@@ingohregg688 they could "fake" it, dividing the damage and doing the multiple hits sounds but in reality it hit once with a shit ton of damage

Chuan Li I think what he meant was it’ll be what you would normally get when doing all the little slashes added up, the problem with that would be the first hit of helm would wake the monster and the ultra one hit helm breaker wouldn’t get the sleeping hit multiplier while the GS does, theoretically giving it the bigger damage

@@miguellazarogil935 noice

@Chuan Li TCS was only added in World how would it be symbolic across the series

I finally got my first solo last night after who knows how many attempts. You can do it, I guarantee.

Tbh solo is the way to go for alatreon if you don't have friends to play with. You don't have to rely on randoms to bring the right element, if any element at all (some idiots still try to bring in their blast shit) and getting the ele topples is easier too imo.

I've yet to solo him. Mostly because he starts playing a bullshit keep away game once he gets close to a element damage cap being met.

The real mountain dragon is zorah.

Feels

You apparently have never used a shotgun in real life.

@zuliwe z Most people haven’t

We literally just failed an alatreon because my helm breaker damage all went to his neck and chest for crap damage despite my sword quite literally clipping through the tip of his stupid head. He then proceeded to get enraged and fly until it was to late. If fatalis has some ridiculous damage check too I'm alt f4ing and going to bed.

they could have had multiple hitboxes... a tight one, which gets checked first to get precise hits, then a slightly less tight one etc. it's not even hard to implement, maybe 30 mins of work (plus a whole lot of testing ofc)

I saw someone make this same argument further up, and at first I agreed, until I saw the counterargument. The counterpoint to that is this: What if for some reason the monster turns, or does a slight movement, and then that Helmbreaker that was meant to hit the head for 1000 combined damage, now hits its resistant wing for only 200? You essentially just wasted your entire big, damaging move to only get a fifth of the damage. The multiple damage numbers are overall a better way to implement it. I'm entirely sure that Capcom had the same idea when they were coding in Helmbreaker. They probably just found that the chance of wasting all of your damage on a target that got blocked in a manner that was out of your control to be...well, a bit lame, and unfun for the player. Still, the fact that what should be a straight, vertical hitbox can miss and hit other areas like in the video is an incredibly frustrating thing to deal with.

It will only work of the attack is always a critical because if the monster moves while you’re doing HB and hit a hard part, you just wasted your meter for very little damage. Interestingly enough, I don’t think I have had that bug shown in the video.

The game is almost at the end of its life cycle. They aren't gonna completely change the way the hitbox works now.

@@SAWFACEG59 really? I thought they said they are planning to support mhw for a long ass time. I'd expect several more, at the very least 1 more huge dlc. Isn't letter G still free for that?

@@maiwaifuisdead Uh no bruv Fatalis is the last update. That's the end. They are moving on to new project after this. However monsterhunterworld servers and events will still run for quite some time.

@@maiwaifuisdead Servers will be up for a long time, that's what they mean by supporting it. Other multiplayer games would just shut down their servers after moving towards a next project.

お疲れ様でした～

Nah it straight up doesnt matter. I've done the same and it somehow hits the wing.

I've hunted Alatreon 100 times with LS, this shit has occurred in every single hunt I've done, it doesn't matter how accurate you land it. This problem needs to be fixed, but I think it is too late.

you must be delusional

Better late than never lol

Omg today is the first time I slayed Alatreon too,I was so happy.

Eyyy congrats guys ✌🏽

It very clearly looks like some hits in the drop are hitting spots the rise would create even if the timeline of hits is different (looks like those odd hits are the 5th or sixth?) So starting SHB behind the monster in its forearm-pit looks to be part of the problem. Fault nonwithstanding. I believe SHB should be explained in detail by capcom or some sort of hotfix be applied at a later date. I feel for LS but there are other weapons that could really use the attention.

@Mister Jaux just bump the multiplier to 5 XD

@Mister Jaux Tbh, helmbreaker has always had shitty ele multipliers, you only use it to dish out as much raw as possible

@@captainace1277 Well, from the release date elemental damage acts a bit weird in this game, like it's just an addiction. I think Crapcom could rework a little on how the elemental damage works.

@@namisauce9826 actually you would set it to 1.5 not 5 times since the hits only do 30% element for some reason just like the bows dragon piercer.

@@procow2274 yeah. its already quite hard to hit weak spots with HB with all the inconsistencies, plus a shitty multiplier. ngl im already having troubles hitting weak spots with HB cause the monsters keep moving an inch away