For 55 bucks, the QC issues are unforgivable. Super 7 needs to stop insulting their customers if they believe these flaws will be ignored

The only things Super7 are great at these days are producing renders that are better than the actual releases and making sure we get 5 extra pair of hands to justify their high prices.

I think it's a totally fair review, and I agree that Super7's "increased prices matched with inconsistent quality" has been an issue with many of their lines, not just TMNT. They make beautiful looking figures, but the quality control issues and the fact that so many are loose and don't stand well has really put me off on pre-ordering or actually being excited about their finished products.

Your opinion is 100%. Wave 5 was what made me also stop with preorders. Leo, krand, and Leatherhead have wobbly legs and undercover raph too, and the prices don't help either

Appreciate the shoutout even if it was for that botched Leo I got. For the record Brian Flynn did reach out and replaced it for me. 2nd Leo was far better and the second head sculpt was different than the first when it came to paint apps under the head. It fit on far better.

Completely agree, paying $55 for Ultimates figures just doesn't make sense with all the QC issues and loose joints. I just recently snagged this wave on eBay new for around $40 each shipped. I think that's the price they should be at.

I find it so disappointing that they removed all of the paint from Raphael's accessories, since the detail shown in the pre order images is what everyone expected to get when the figure eventually released.

Glad to hear someone give an honest review instead of gushing over every figure and looking past or explaining away the imperfections. I collect the Super7 Ultimate line, but I am getting worn out with them all. Not sure if I will get the Wave 9. Anyway...great video

Absolutely. I stopped earlier and decided to only keep the OG 10. Unlike MOTU Classics, I just don’t see a big enough difference between the Ultimate’s and the vintage besides size and paint apps. For others that might be ok, but for me, I need something more.

I stopped at wave 4 for a few reasons. 1. I didn’t feel like I was getting the value anymore with the price increases and quality. 2. There is a lot going on with TMNT right now and I feel the better line is NECA. 3. The aftermarket price is a big deal bc the figures retail price is so expensive so if I can save anywhere from $5 to $15 a fig, I’m going to do so. Great vid and love the channel!

I couldn't agree more, the quality has decreased while the price keeps climbing. I don't think I will be doing pre orders anymore either I'll pick just the figures I truly want if they look goo once they hit my local stores.

I somewhat agree with your opinion. I can’t really afford the ultimates figures because I am a young collector but now it seems like most of the figures now are variants of the turtles which is what most of the vintage like was but it would be cool to see half court or even a scale tail.

I only have the 4 Turtles but for me the poor/lack of articulation is disappointing for the price point. They do look great for a scaled up re-creation but quality of plastic and minimal paint on top of basic movement, feels like they should be priced closer to $30/35.

I agree. Most of my Super7 figures have come after the initial release. There are too many questions about quality and price that keep me from wanting to preorder- even sadly with Leatherhead who was one of my favorite baddies as a kid.

TMNT and Thundercats both have their fair share of issues. I can't wait for to see all the fun issues we have with the Silverhawks.

I’ve been up in the air on buying the TMNT Ultimates (so many reasons). You make a great point on Ray Fillet with his body being painted and not cast in the color. That was an issue I had with my first wave of MOTU figures from Super 7. A figure had his accessories painted and not casted in the color, and of course paint chipping occurred.

Jay, I love how honest your reviews are. Greetings from Montreal, Canada.

This wave killed my collecting too. My Krang wouldn't stand at all, and my Ray had a huge seam across the shoulders. I simultaneously got the other wave with Ace Duck, whose wings and tail feathers being awfully engineered totally killed it for me. Plus Slash's color already being entirely wrong...

As someone else mentioned here. Unless they change things up, they’re going to go under. I won’t name my store here, but I went from spending well over 100k a year with them to now all but nothing. As you mentioned, there is practically ZERO secondary market for these things due to the countless runs and endless lines that they attempt to support. I can’t even get retail prices for these. I won’t repeat the other points that you made, but they are all valid. It’s not good fellas.

So this is literally your ultimate wave of TMNT Ultimates.

I personally like Super 7 and your channel! It’s does concern me that the Ultimates are heavily discounted at Entertainment Earth. Maybe it’s an Entertainment Earth business issue with discounting their Ultimates so heavily. I would recommend having Brian Flynn on your show to share your concerns. He’s always willing to answer questions and seems willing to talk about the business which very few companies actually are willing to do. Based on past interviews, it appears that they transitioning to having their toys made in Vietnam now rather than China which may be part of the delay with their Ultimates. A conversation would clear up much of these concerns.

I agree Jay, I’ve yet to receive some of these but I have been cherry picking. The quality on Ultimate figures whether they are TMNT or TCats is inconsistent and the prices are going up. S7 should shift the focus to better QC, less accessories (especially hands) and less snazzy packaging.

Great video, Other Jay! Nerd. Father. Existence. 4 Life!

I like your review on super7, you are the example of” all that shines is not gold” my only take would be if you can score them on sale, then it’s totally worth it, specially if it’s being modeled from an original toy that is way too expensive to acquire.

What got me into the TMNT Ultimates figures is the random chance that I picked up the flocked version of Splinter. I like the fuzzy texture it has and it gave the figure more detail. Naturally, since getting Splinter, I recently purchased all four turtles from the line. I have an idea for a display in mind. Upon discovering the mutagen glow versions of the turtles, I think I may pick those up as well. Hearing about the QC issues that the TMNT Ultimates have, it reminds me a lot of the Power Rangers Lightning Collection line and the QC issues that Hasbro has with that. I just hope I don't run into those issues here.

I agree with everything you said, Jay. I cancelled my pre-orders for the GI Joe Ultimates. I can't justify paying $55 for so-so QC. I'll wait til the figures along with TMNT are marked down on Amazon or Entertainment Earth.

Good, honest review of these products. When Super7 started Ultimates, I was there cheering them on 100%. They had awesome licenses and what appeared to be some really great ideas. Sadly, there have been far too many QC issues and the prices are getting ridiculous. I am particularly disappointed with how the SilverHawks are looking. They do not live up to the renders. This seems to be the trend with S7 releases these days. Some of their stuff still comes out good but customers have to take a big chance with pre-orders. My new policy is no S7 pre-orders at all. I will wait to see the finished figures in customers hands, check out some reviews, then decide if I actually want to hand over the money.

when I address renders vs what we get, I typically get shit on. whether it's valaverse, hasbro or super7. Good someone else is brining this up

I'm sorry, but why does that April figure look atrocious? That's the Ultimates version? Seeing the renders of it vs what I'm seeing in this video leads me to believe the QC drop happened long before Wave 5.

The prices may make me start picking and choosing. But if I can afford it I will probably keep getting these in waves. I have started seeking out sources like BBTS so that I don't pay until it arrives. The funny thing is I wasn't big on most of the variants as a kid. The few I had were mostly gifts. I only wanted charaters from the show. Now as an adult I appreciate how fun and off the wall they are. That said my most recent two waves are still boxed. So Maybe I will feel different after opening them.

Tienes razón, últimamente no han tenido excelente calidad en Super 7 con estas TMNT. Yo tengo solo unas pocas, pero si, por ejemplo, Raphael me llegó con detalles feos en la pintura de la cara, o cuando quise cambiar la cabeza de Donatello se me quebró (la parte superior de la cabeza se separó del resto, donde está la boca y la bandana), Michelangelo me llegó con piernas muy flojas, es difícil mantenerlo de pie. Sin embargo y a pesar de todo, me fascinan, son unas súper figuras y las amo. No pensaba comprar más pero cada nuevo lanzamiento me hace desearlo. Recién descubro tu canal, soy de México y debo activar los subtítulos para entender lo que dices, y me gustó mucho este video. Seguro me suscribo y miraré más de tu contenido. Saludos 🇲🇽🤙🏾

Are the main 4 turtles and Splinter and Shredder worth it for about 44 ish?

I have a Scratch figure on the way from Big Bad Toy store as the first and possibly the only figure in the line I get. The high price point kept me away (here in Canada) stores like my Local Comic Shop charge $95 Canadian for one now. I only got Scratch as I always wanted one of the originals but now that they are thousands of dollars I can’t spend that on a toy. Some reviews were saying wave 6 finally got the loose joints right so I hope that is the case with mine.

It was a difficult decision, but I decided to cancel my Leo from BBTS after seeing the reviews. If it were just the loose hips or muted gold paint, I might not have, but I couldn't justify full price for those. I have heard that Sewer Surfin Mikey is better, but I haven't gotten mine yet.

Very insightful review of this wave!

I feel you about these have lost luster. 2 years ago I scrambled hunting wave 1 & 2. Successfully! Only for them to be re released. I’m happy though because these were figures no one should miss on & pay triple rates. But decrease quality & increase of price ,combined with value drop days after release… I’ll just pick my faves & wait for the price drop I’m willing to pay. Like just now I got samurai leo for $38. His 3rd time I seen him on sale. I feel this wave will drop more but I was really wanting leo, despite his dull gold. & he’ll be here by Xmas. $44 should be their price not $54

Wave 6 is better. They fixed the hips and Scratch and Slash are easily the best sculpts yet- but I’ll wait to get any more until the prices drop significantly.

S7 might as well hang out up now. They can't keep up with what they are showing buyers. Things are always in the factory on a boat or being checked. Playmates need to do their figures again but with added articulation and paint like motu. S7 so focused on disney they said f Everton. Everything else.

Leatherhead and Ray Fillet look great! In UK, I've only seen waves 1-4 . Wish they would stick to core characters, they started doing all these variants too early

Yep, as great as Super7’s sculpts looked and the idea is such a cool concept - there are just far too many QC issues and higher price point to justify jumping in. Yeah, you may like the Playmates look of the Ultimates line over what NECA is doing … but NECA is at a fair jumping in point and their quality control doesn’t feel as negligent as Super7. Definitely tried to warn ya on your Super7 vs NECA video lol

My Sewer Samurai Leo showed up with the wobbliest legs of any S7 figure I've gotten, the alternate head doesn't stay on (hole too big for peg), and the sword scabbard was glued incorrectly and bent/broken in box. I contacted BBTS and they gave me a full refund, and after seeing the video I sent of the figure, they didn't even want it returned. So frustrated for what would have been an Ultimate of my favorite Turtle figure growing up...doesn't exactly fill me with hope for the MMPR line, which I had been looking forward to picking up Zords from, but can already imagine the loose hips on...

The only thing wrong with this is video is the disclaimer at the end for people don't understand math and self control. There's nothing wrong with going to eBay and paying triple for something you want (no one's forcing you to do that so it's your problem) and I don't know how anyone could infer there's something wrong with giving your money to someone trying to unload their figures. Newsflash people: That person is more than likely losing half of their money on that sale, especially if their selling Super7 figures. Bottom line? Super7's not getting the job done and the collector has made it clear that $55 is not going to cut it. Thank you for this video. The Power Rangers and Simpsons figures just came out and everyone who got samples is just drooling over them instead of offering fair analysis.

Was hesitating with super7 serie or neca, wich one you suggest ?!

love the channel. Totally understand your reasoning. Still feels like you're being a bit dramatic. I used Kiki Fix Loose joints on mine and they are perfect now, articulation wise.

Me too. I was all-in on TMNT Ultimates, but I've cancelled my preorders and am thinking about dumping the early waves I already have. The prices of all toys are increasing, so I'm having to get choosier. And when these are $55 or more and the quality level is dropping. . . sorry TMNT Ultimates, I'm out.

Well said. I have all the lines aside from wave 5. These figs are too expensive. But if hasbro put these out, they’d be just as much money.

That Raph with the trench coat looks great. Seems to have better tailoring compared to the Neca one. I'll get that if they plan to release the other 3 with trench coats

I personally got only the main cast of the heroes i preferred the vintage line great video

Oh man! Spot on! The gold and silver is very off putting, especially the gold that should be shiny and premium.

I am still all in on these figures… are they perfect heck no, but the looseness or balance I can fix. Plus I am not into posing and photography of my figures I just place them in my display. Are they more expensive yes, but I also buy Mafex and Mezco and those are more expensive so these seem like a deal to me.

I'm in the same boat, have been on the waiting game for these but I found Wave 6 (minus the Mousers) for $100... I couldn't resist. Wave 6 so far I haven't had any quality issues other than Slash's weapon tree being broken.

Good review if the experience you have had though I don’t agree with it. Maybe I am lucky with my waves 1-6 figures cause I haven’t had any wobbly joints problems. Wish I can post pictures cause all my figures stand up perfectly and can pose them in different variations and not have any issues. I don’t know, I haven’t had your experience with the figures. I do agree with the increase in prices is becoming irritating. However the price of scumbug is interesting, it’s listed as 65.99 on S7’s site but 54.99 on entertainment earth. Clearly pricing inconsistencies are going on.

I’m not paying $55 unless QC is pristine. I’ll buy used on the secondary market, i don’t need to pay extra for a box.

It looks like Super7 has been following Hasbro's lead. That's too bad.

Jay! been watching your content since the lost podcast. I was in the forum when you and Colleen were having some bet over bits or something in the forum. sorry if that's creepy haha. always love your stuff!! -amanda

Oh dang, I didn't know they made a Ray Fillet back in the vintage line that didn't change color.

We were definitely suckers for getting into this line, weren’t we? Super7, you had such an opportunity to corner this market but your greed made you crash and burn. Will you learn? Doubtful.

Even though you don't collect them I'm sure we can all agree Neca won the TMNT Figure War hahaha 😆 Team Neca TMNT!!!

Great video. But the title is vague enough to be misleading as you plan to keep adding figures to your collection. You're only done pre-ordering full waves. A pet peeve of mine is seeing so many collectors saying "I'm done" (with this or other lines), only to see them not being done at all.

All in all. I am fine as it is now. If they decide to just abort the toy line, im fine. I got my badboys Rocksteady, Bebop and Slash and a few more. I will continue with pick and wreck if they doesnt abort the line.

I’m done preordering anything from Super7. The cheetara head sculpt was really a huge let down and the pictures of the upcoming Silverhawks figures doesn’t help build confidence in their final products either.

Given they released most of the characters people wanted right in the first four waves, I don't think the line has a lot of time left. I mean I would love a Hothead, Groundchuck, Dirtbag, Mona Lisa, and Rat King, but if it doesn't happen...eh. It had a good run. To be honest, I wasn't even going to get into this line, feeling still having my vintage figures was enough, but then I started stumbling onto websites selling them for way cheaper prices than originally sold for, and so I have all of waves 1-4 now...but again, got them at cheaper prices than they originally went for.

This is a great channel.

McFarlane Super Powers quality is why I returned everything to Walmart and stopped collecting the line. Capes were horrible, among other gripes. I hope Both Super7 and McFarlane improve….they have some cool looking stuff!

If Super7 wants to have any chance to survivie they'll be smart and have nothing to do with anyone laid off from Hasbro. It looks like Super7 has already been infected by Hasbro, but just maybe Super7 can turn their situation around.

I have always thought these were ridiculously over priced. I have a couple of them that I bought on clearance for ~$25. That's about what they're worth. At ~$55, they're the same price as a lot of the Neca 2-packs and about $20 more than a lot of the Neca single figure releases. Neither figures have great articulation, Neca also has it's share of of QC issues, but Neca just kills Super7 on paint. Super7 looks like they have Marvel Legend's budget for paint. I know you said that you don't like the Neca look, so I suppose that makes it a lot easier of a comp for you, but when I look at these two lines I just, can not, in any way, justify the $55 price point on these. I do have to say though, whatever super7 used for their glow in the dark mutagen man works really well. I don't know if it's a paint or the plastic, or both, but I'll give them props on that, for sure.

I've been picking up most of the TMNT Ultimates new on ebay for $10-$20 cheaper than the retail price. Only cherry picking my faves. I'm waiting on Triceraton, Usagi and Fugitoid then I'll be done (unless they give us an Armaggon).

Great vid!

It's a shame there are so many problems. The figures look nice, but Super7 needs more follow-through to make sure the figures really are nice. Remember, customers don't have to buy these, andcustomers' money is VERY valuable to the customers. Treat customers with respect by ensuring high quality products. Don't be like Hasbro.

Started showing up in b&m stores for £19.99

Luckily I never got any of these problems. But I did get mine earlier than most

Sadly I feel like these peaked with Baxter Stockman in wave 1. I cut bait after wave 4.

I hope the Star Trek TNG figures are good quality, only time will tell…great review!

Raph didn't come with the mustachioed white man face mask disguise??. I vividly remember that accessory.

I’m scared for the burning Godzilla now

My Samurai Leo came out of the box super loose like the one in that video.

X'd my pre orders. I hope the robin hood fig turns out nice.

I can respect you're getting out, but I'm sticking with the line. Of course, I'm probably unlike a lot of collectors and just picking up one or two figs a wave so that makes it easier. I don't like everything Super7 has done, but there's enough good there for me to stick with it.

I stopped with TMNT after getting the turtles, Casey, Bebop, and Baxter. I splurged on Ace Duck out of nostalgia, and it was okay, but agreed with the criticisms over the jacket and other colors. No more turtles for me. I even cancelled my preorders for the Silverhawks (which I was very excited for prior to seeing their first physical samples in videos and photos after the toy show). Truly a shame given how there are some great Ultimates figures like Monkian and Slithe. There are just too few of those jewels showing up lately.

Wave looks great.

Glad I never bought into any of Super 7’s lines. I’ll stick to vintage, at least you know what to expect and unlike Super 7, they retain their value.

I'm one of those that played the wait game and got 80% of turtles ultimates for way less than MSRP I've pretty much cherry picked each wave and have been happy so far but yeah super7 prices don't equate what you actually get

Wave 6 was my last pre-order from Super 7. Just not worth the price to get them and a weaker Wave 7 with a non original TMNT figure in Guerilla Gorilla felt out of place. It's too bad that initial Wave 9 price was wrong cause they almost pulled me back in for another wave.

That's the problem, they show these great pictures but actual toys are not the same look at the GI Joe

The new Super7 Simpsons figures are very expensive considering the small scale.

I was done with the complete waves at wave 4, to me other than Donatello that wave sucked. Haven’t brought a single figure since.

Their QC issues are unacceptable reguardless of price. I bought Ray Fillet because Best Buy had him on sale for $27. I don't have any paint ot torso issues on mine. It seems that I got lucky. In my opinion he is my favorite of the wave. I really wish that their QC was consistant. NECA and Loyal Subjects are my favorite lines. Super 7 are not worth the price anymore.

I made the same decision as you on this wave and I'm cherry picking going forward

My Samurai Leo's neck peg snapped, as well. Yet another weak point and QC issue.

I love watching your videos 😍🤩😍😘💕😻😊🙂

Cool 😎 awesome toys collection

Good video.

Sheesh. A lot of problems for such expensive figures. That's a shame

I don't disagree. I will say that wave 6 is a lot better in terms of the QC issues. But that wave came from a different factory than wave 5. I was all set to cherry pick wave 9. But then there was that temporary pricing snafu that got by S7 where you basically got the whole wave of 5 figures for $200. So U went all in. But unless something like that happens for wave 10 that'll be the last all-in for me on this line.

O and the hands thing is truly mind boggling. Do they really think that people are just sitting around changing these every few days? Do they really think that people are dumb enough to feel that by including them they justify the cost? Either way it makes no sense.

I’ve got the Power Rangers preordered. You’ve got me worried. Lol

Straight up truth!!

I would have put dicast in leather head's tail

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Neca seems to be stronger in this line in my opinion no matter what you might think of the cartoon style.