my least favourite "well actually"

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Linus Boman

Linus Boman

Ай бұрын

in defence of the word "font"
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@LinusBoman
@LinusBoman Ай бұрын
Greetings pedants! Yes, vegetable is not a botanical classification. As for fonts, you can read the bottom of this page for a clear written argument (not mine) - practicaltypography.com/font-basics.html or a nuanced and technical discussion among type experts here about the terms in a professional context web.archive.org/web/20170731194203/fontfeed.com/archives/font-or-typeface/
@Xanderall
@Xanderall Ай бұрын
You should make a DESIGN PEDANT CLUB tee! Now that's merch I'd buy!
@nialltracey2599
@nialltracey2599 Ай бұрын
Well actually, I think you'll find that what you've defined is actually called a "fount", not a "font"... 😁😁😁 (Just to join it the pointless pedantry! (or should that be "0pt pedantry"...?))
@philip2205
@philip2205 Ай бұрын
Just a thought: If you didn't want the topic to be negative, then maybe you could have titled the video something like "The Difference Between a Typeface and a Font" and not mentioned the comments, while still having a discussion, if you'd like, on pedantry. By the way, your to-the-point outro was unexpected but welcome. I like your editing style.
@RockLoi
@RockLoi 28 күн бұрын
​@@philip2205 The actual difference between a typeface and a font is the least important part of this video, and focusing on it (or the tomato classification) misses the point.
@RaymondTheThird
@RaymondTheThird Ай бұрын
Well actually my ego is tied up with correcting anonymous people online.
@Batmannerz
@Batmannerz Ай бұрын
Loser. My ego is tied to correcting people at work when I overhear them say "font". I'm thinking of quitting, everyone hates me for some reason.
@carlospinheirotorres9499
@carlospinheirotorres9499 Ай бұрын
Well actually "people" are not "on" line, blablefrvbleft ...(onlinus?)
@RaymondTheThird
@RaymondTheThird Ай бұрын
Well actually this is the most likes I've ever gotten on a youtube comment
@alex.g7317
@alex.g7317 Ай бұрын
@@RaymondTheThirdseriously? Your account is 13 years old…
@mcritz46vl
@mcritz46vl Ай бұрын
Well actually a typeface comes from a linotype machine. Everything else is sparkling font.
@AnInnocuousBlueCube
@AnInnocuousBlueCube Ай бұрын
"Well actually Gran-Gran, you didn't send me a letter, you sent me many letters, and punctuation, which made up a message that you posted me."
@SapphireRose0205
@SapphireRose0205 Ай бұрын
"Well, actually, dear, I sent you an organization of letters and punctuation in a format defined as a letter. Seems my own grandchild forgot that words can have multiple independent meanings. Love, grandma"
@theharvardyard2356
@theharvardyard2356 Күн бұрын
Hey! A note! Yeah but turn it over, there's a letter! And I got this message from my parents!
@sevware
@sevware Ай бұрын
"weaponized trivia" is such a great term, next time someone does that to me I'm gonna say "uuuhmm akshually you are not being helpful, you are just weaponizing trivia 🤓"
@user-sv5kt8qz3v
@user-sv5kt8qz3v Ай бұрын
that'll show them!
@josepharte
@josepharte Ай бұрын
yes, i do indeed have weaponized autism
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts Ай бұрын
You're so cool!
@amstevenson
@amstevenson Ай бұрын
I already know I’m going to become so obnoxious using this phrase all the time 😅
@Bleckman666
@Bleckman666 Ай бұрын
I like Ciarán Hinds' character Fushima in "Miami Vice": 'I'm not changing my Op plan for speculation masquerading as intel.'
@ulture
@ulture Ай бұрын
actually a typeface is how letters look, a font is a magic bird bath
@benk6737
@benk6737 Ай бұрын
Don't blaspheme the holy sacrament of the baptismal typeface
@Azeria
@Azeria Ай бұрын
at the very least: if you’re going to be pedantic, be right.
@kyoyeou5899
@kyoyeou5899 Ай бұрын
Wow I remember seeing a lot of your comments a few years ago and here I recognize you again, so strange (it was on Dankpod)
@ProfessorPesca
@ProfessorPesca Ай бұрын
Well actually this is known as Muphry’s Law.
@Azeria
@Azeria Ай бұрын
@@kyoyeou5899 👋
@totally_not_a_bot
@totally_not_a_bot 21 күн бұрын
I like this take.
@isomeme
@isomeme Ай бұрын
"An underrated life skill is knowing when to STFU." Amen! That was a hard-won skill for me, and my life improved significantly once I mastered it.
@quasiotter
@quasiotter Ай бұрын
i require my art appreciation students know the difference between "achromatic" and "monochromatic", but i teach them to not be cops about it
@cameron7374
@cameron7374 Ай бұрын
But what about "aromatic" and "monocratic"?
@kezia8027
@kezia8027 Ай бұрын
@@cameron7374 but what about "aromantic" and "monostatic"?
@woodfur00
@woodfur00 Ай бұрын
@@kezia8027But what about "acromanic" and "monastic"?
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts Ай бұрын
​@woodfur00 But what about "aromantic" and "monoromantic"?
@HaganConnell
@HaganConnell Ай бұрын
@@Ten_Thousand_Locusts But what about "acroamatic" and "monotheistic"?
@kezia8027
@kezia8027 Ай бұрын
"An underrated life skill, is learning when to shut the F up" Amen. Best lesson I ever learned. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
@Mezelenja
@Mezelenja Ай бұрын
For real. It's the best lesson anyone can learn.
@pdpUU
@pdpUU Ай бұрын
Discernment is huge. It makes things better for all involved. Because then you can start to find when that “well actually” *will* be received positively. It opens up so many interesting conversations with the right people, and prevents wasted time with the wrong people.
@blarghblargh
@blarghblargh Ай бұрын
Not related to this video, but related to the comment: it can also be very good to know when to open your mouth. Looking like a fool is sometimes a very small risk compared to actually being one (by remaining ignorant of a thing you're afraid of asking, or by choosing not to speak up for yourself or others). It can be very good to summon that courage.
@Mickety13
@Mickety13 22 күн бұрын
Takes one to know one!
@KarlBunker
@KarlBunker Ай бұрын
"Weaponizing trivia" is a great term.
@Glidus
@Glidus Ай бұрын
"Weaponising trivia" is such a precise way of describing this phenomenon. I'm so sick of it. Thanks Linus.
@ianumathews5922
@ianumathews5922 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU omg the amount of ppl in my design class who would pull this out just to seem smart is insane
@Q-.-Q
@Q-.-Q Ай бұрын
Now you can link them to this video! And hope their smugness subsides 😆
@internetshaquille
@internetshaquille Ай бұрын
ap ap ah.... the NUMBER of people in your design class!
@othertriangle
@othertriangle Ай бұрын
​@@internetshaquille my life changed for the worse after I learned this difference, now I see it everywhere
@RaveDecoy242
@RaveDecoy242 Ай бұрын
​@@internetshaquilleOff-topic but your vids reinvigorated my desire to cook and eat more good...I mean cook and eat better. :D
@fqwgads
@fqwgads Ай бұрын
I wonder if all this came about because "Font" was easier to fit in the Microsoft Word toolbar than "Typeface"
@kittyess
@kittyess Ай бұрын
Similarly, "font" is quicker and easier to type when writing CSS/HTML!
@friendfrequent3330
@friendfrequent3330 Ай бұрын
This is how it was taught to me so sorry if I’m wrong but my typography teacher said it was Steve jobs who liked the word font for aethstetic reasons, so he added it to MacWrite for the macintosh in 1984 instead of the word typeface. Microsoft Word (then known as Multi-tool Word) did come out before this on Xenix and Dos, but neither at the time had the ability to change the look of the letters, as that wasn’t something word did till 1985
@watchm4ker
@watchm4ker Ай бұрын
To be clear: Font IS the correct term for the dialog box and the file format. For the former, you are never simply selecting a typeface, you are also selecting the size, the weight, and certain other properties. And for the files themselves, while there's no distinction between font sizes anymore, weights have to be seperated out into different files. There is technically no point in that process where "Typeface" applies over "Font"
@cmmartti
@cmmartti 10 күн бұрын
​@@watchm4kerTrue, but the font drop-down menu selects a typeface family, and the other font settings like size and weight are in other menus. The distinction is not really worth making, however.
@NuncNuncNuncNunc
@NuncNuncNuncNunc Ай бұрын
I bet every field has its own best "well actually" hairsplitting. Well actually, mass and weight are different. Well actually simmer and stew are different...
@cameron7374
@cameron7374 Ай бұрын
"Well actually, what you're referring to is GNU + Linux..."
@sacha9593
@sacha9593 Ай бұрын
Well actually the difference between mass and weight is quite significative in physics. While in every day life this is not important I think that even a KZfaq video doing physics vulgarisation should not confuse those two terms. Those are words with very precise definitions in a very technical domain. Other examples are different: even designers do not need to care about the difference between font and typeface, or developers about the difference between Linux and GNU/Linux.
@NuncNuncNuncNunc
@NuncNuncNuncNunc Ай бұрын
@@sacha9593 Well actually, yes, if a physics video gets it wrong that's one thing, but I don't expect to ever see some package or other item weight in kg*m/s^2 😀
@Toksyuryel
@Toksyuryel Ай бұрын
@@cameron7374 This is my favorite one because after I read that article I excised every single piece of GNU software from my system and replaced it with BSD equivalents so that it would be completely inaccurate to call my system GNU/Linux.
@JJMcCullough
@JJMcCullough 28 күн бұрын
Well actually it’s not the “Nobel Prize in Economics” it’s a different prize merely sponsored by the Nobel foundation.
@leleo53000
@leleo53000 Ай бұрын
I also feel like nowadays, in part due to web, a lot of people might make a distinction between a font and a font family, with the word "typeface" being mostly lost to history
@geoffreypiltz271
@geoffreypiltz271 Ай бұрын
lost
@vlc-cosplayer
@vlc-cosplayer Ай бұрын
lost
@mfedddddddddddd
@mfedddddddddddd 29 күн бұрын
lost
@aksela6912
@aksela6912 Ай бұрын
Well actually, there's nothing (biologically speaking) stopping a tomato from being both a fruit and a vegetable, at the same time.
@cadekachelmeier7251
@cadekachelmeier7251 Ай бұрын
A ton of veggies are fruits in the scientific sense, it's interesting that tomato gets called out. Nobody is correcting people about how corn is actually a fruit.
@glennac
@glennac Ай бұрын
Schrödinger’s tomato. 😄
@tarmil
@tarmil Ай бұрын
@@glennac Akshually Schrödinger's cat is not a thought experiment, it's an animal.
@cameron7374
@cameron7374 Ай бұрын
The fun thing about vegetables is that (botanically speaking) the term doesn't really mean anything at all.
@volpedo2000
@volpedo2000 Ай бұрын
Well actually vegetables are not a botanical or biological group but a something mothers force kids to eat.
@benwaardenburg
@benwaardenburg Ай бұрын
I am a massive fan of the ratio change! I find mself really drawn to less widescreen formats and more closer to 4:3 and square.
@LinusBoman
@LinusBoman Ай бұрын
Thanks mate, it's just something I'm trying for "semi short form" videos for now. But people seem to like it.
@sevware
@sevware Ай бұрын
yea I don't know what it is exactly, but internet shaquille also started switching over to that format and it just feels so much better, plus it's more "platform agnostic"
@PJTierney
@PJTierney Ай бұрын
It’s an interesting choice 🙂 Linus, is there any design reasoning behind it in particular?
@_supersolar
@_supersolar Ай бұрын
@@LinusBoman its a good decision. is this the start of linus' cinemtography arc?!?!
@-book
@-book Ай бұрын
I love 4:3 videos! Reminds me of old screens. I also love the wide ratios used in TV, so maybe I'm just bored of the standard...
@IanZainea1990
@IanZainea1990 Ай бұрын
1:22 I used to do this too. I think it's a form of insecurity. If you aren't secure in your own knowledge you have to put it out there for others to see. Or if you feel you have nothing else to offer (also insecure) then you have to share what you can offer in order to feel valuable. Once I began to develop security/confidence in general. I found it far less important to do this. Unless someone is REALLY off base, then I'll still (hopefully gently) correct them.
@hughcaldwell1034
@hughcaldwell1034 Ай бұрын
I also used to do this, though I think the cause was different in my case. Insecurity, perhaps, but not insecurity in my knowledge. If I was insecure about that, putting it out there would be the last thing I'd want to do. Instead, it was the *only* source of security for me. Language being consistent and sensible was a proxy for the world being consistent and sensible, so pedantry became an anchor. I corrected people not to look or feel superior, but because it caused me genuine distress to think they were operating in a mistaken version of reality. I think what helped me was shifting my mindset about language, rather than shifting how I felt about people making mistakes. Things may physically exist, but categories of things are almost always arbitrary human abstractions, and thus so are words, and so categories and the language about them can change over time.
@justforplaylists
@justforplaylists Ай бұрын
This video was a typeface of knowledge.
@SjajZvezde
@SjajZvezde Ай бұрын
As someone who knows next to nothing about your craft, I wholeheartedly thank you for not gatekeeping and for providing so much lovely insight :) As a fellow (although linguistic) pedant, I empathise with you on the urge to correct people, but I feel like we grow a teensy bit every time we resist that urge :)
@_supersolar
@_supersolar Ай бұрын
I deeply appreciate that this channel is mostly you discussing things you like. At the same time, I also deeply appreciate this video and your sentiment behind it. Language evolves, and we can be a part of it evolving in a way that improves understanding and unites our collective knowledge, or we can be a part of it evolving in a way that divides us and makes it harder to talk to each other. Peace and love
@HerrDeacon
@HerrDeacon Ай бұрын
Even though your video focuses on fonts, typeface and design, your message can certainly be applied to many areas and subjects around the internet these days. Seems everyone wants to sound smart and continue to correct people on irrelevant semantics. Thank you for this video, really well said.
@stolenshortsword
@stolenshortsword Ай бұрын
common descriptivist W
@lettersnstuff
@lettersnstuff Ай бұрын
king shit right here. “you are technically correct, I don’t care, shut the fuck up”
@aWOLtrooper
@aWOLtrooper Ай бұрын
If people want to be pedantic, fuck 'em. You kick ass, dude.
@YouLoveBeef
@YouLoveBeef Ай бұрын
2:35 My grandfather worked as a setter in his youth. Already back then the technology was being phased out, and he went on to become a journalist. He ended working in television, back when it still had some prestige to it. He was a great man, and whenever I hear stories about traditional setting in printing presses, I always think of him.
@Jorge-xf9gs
@Jorge-xf9gs Ай бұрын
Sweet
@duffman18
@duffman18 Ай бұрын
Isn't a setter a type of dog? Your grandfather was an Irish Setter?
@grmpf
@grmpf Ай бұрын
@@duffman18 I like the idea of a Type Setter: A dog that has letters as spots.
@claire2088
@claire2088 Ай бұрын
I never get why people are so hung up on tomatoes being fruits- so many vegetables are botanically fruit (cucumber, peppers, aubergine, pumpkins, peas etc, then there's the nuts- peanuts, walnut, hazelnut . . . all technically fruit) but it's only the tomato that people seem compelled to 'well actually' about
@matesafranka6110
@matesafranka6110 Ай бұрын
Because it's the only one they know.
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman Ай бұрын
Tomato was changed by congress from being a fruit to a vegetable to avoid a tax. That's why it's the poster child.
@hoozn
@hoozn Ай бұрын
Probably because tomatoes are an essential part of pizza, and in the western hemisphere, everyone and their dog knows and loves pizza.
@foozlebagel7488
@foozlebagel7488 Ай бұрын
Girl what are you talking about? People "well actually" about all those other fruits plenty of the time!
@duffman18
@duffman18 Ай бұрын
​@@matesafranka6110 exactly. Vegetable is not a scientific term. It's a culinary one. Tons and tons and tons of vegetables are fruits. It's not a biological category, it's a food category. Vegetables can be fruits, they can be roots, they can be types of grass, there's all sorts of things that fit into the culinary category called "vegetables". So when people make their stupid repetitive jokes like "hurr derr intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing to not use tomatoes in a fruit salad" it just misses the point completely. They're trying to sound smart by using a joke that a million other people have already made a million times, they kind of reveal how little they actually know.
@IanZainea1990
@IanZainea1990 Ай бұрын
3:40 was obvious and mattered! If someone said "move that font" that's a pain in the butt, but doable. "Move that type face" and oh boy... it's a whole day! haha
@internetshaquille
@internetshaquille Ай бұрын
😈 also ui and ux are the same thing 😈
@LinusBoman
@LinusBoman Ай бұрын
🌶️🌶️🌶️
@PeterLawrenceYT
@PeterLawrenceYT Ай бұрын
UI is sandpaper toilet roll. UX is your bleeding backside.
@GlitchyPSI
@GlitchyPSI Ай бұрын
devious statement. i like your attitude
@WilliamHostman
@WilliamHostman Ай бұрын
No. UI is the attempt and UX the result. UX also encompases non-UI elements, like cutscenes, difficulty, frame rates on minimum hardware... UX varies by user; UI is set by the devs.
@matesafranka6110
@matesafranka6110 Ай бұрын
@@WilliamHostman How's that bait taste
@TheFiteShow
@TheFiteShow Ай бұрын
i like correcting people and i like being corrected-i love trivia and little details, i want to be as logistically correct as possible for maximum understanding among peers. although i suppose the difference there is whether youre going "well actually" or "fun fact!"
@MichaelHorncastleUK
@MichaelHorncastleUK 27 күн бұрын
Been a huge fan of your videos for a while now and I couldn't agree with you more on this. Love the phrase 'Weaponised Trivia' especially! Thanks for always producing such accessible, informative and thoroughly entertaining content!
@strayiggytv
@strayiggytv Ай бұрын
The perfect response to someone correcting a word you used just to be petty is: "Well you knew what I meant right? Cause otherwise how did you correct me?" Gets em every time.
@FAB13
@FAB13 Ай бұрын
😂👏👏👏
@hoozn
@hoozn Ай бұрын
Perfect response? I would have expected the dudeish „Well… that‘s like… your opinion, man.“
@strayiggytv
@strayiggytv Ай бұрын
@@hoozn that doesn't work on people who don't get the reference lol
@cheqers_
@cheqers_ 10 күн бұрын
Forgive me for reading like a review but I've only just found your channel and you're stupendously insightful. So studied, well spoken, and succinct. It's no wonder Internet Shaquille is a viewer, who's videos similarly respect the audience, possessing no interest in wasting time and attention. The information is dense and pragmatic, yet you're relaxed and engaging. I'm sure there's plenty effort and work to produce these but there's polish in how persistently restrained and clear cut its all presented and speaks volumes of the design practices and values you espouse and maintain. In an unending ocean of disrespectful viewbaiting and frivolous nothing content I'm just a little spellbound when a gem of a channel like yours somehow percolates to the surface and I really appreciate that it exists and you're doing what you're doing. Thanks Linus. Cheers from Sydney! 🥂
@markbollinger1343
@markbollinger1343 Ай бұрын
How can I got to bed if someone on the internet is wrong?
@aliengeo
@aliengeo Ай бұрын
I used to behave this way about other topics when I was a kid because I grew up in an environment where intelligence was valued and I felt like it was demonstrating my intelligence/value to correct others. Then I grew up and realized that social systems also require a certain level of intelligence: as Linus said, when to shut the F up. You don't come off as smart and cool when you frame everything around correcting others, you come off as a jerk. I also... learned other things! Some of which changed my perception of behaviors I'd previously considered "errors!" Which means that by "correcting" people on it, I was showing my lack of knowledge of the subject, in a way. You have to give room for people to grow, including yourself. (Also, it's very funny to see the hand in the pedant position ☝️ in the background of a video about pedantry.)
@doofs
@doofs 15 күн бұрын
honestly youre so real for this just learning rn, but for the past year ive been trying to shut up and not do this, im so bad at it still. thank you for putting it into words!!
@sandrafaith
@sandrafaith Ай бұрын
1:27 "An underrated life skill, in my opinion, is knowing when to shut the fuck up, because all you're doing is alienating people" - words of wisdom! I learned that after many years of grammar-policing. It still bugs me, but language is a living thing and some things are harder to accept than others (I'm lookin' at you, "alright")
@peterdibble
@peterdibble 27 күн бұрын
"An underrated life skill in my opinion is knowing when to shut the fuck up." This exact phrase has been my life mantra for years, haha. Kudos from a fellow designer.
@tecc
@tecc Ай бұрын
He really said if you want to “we’ll actually” me, let me well actually back but harder.
@mewmedic
@mewmedic Ай бұрын
My first semester of graphic design my professsors were all these trypeface vs font type of guys. 😮‍💨 we even had it as a question on multiple tests.
@qupufu
@qupufu Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this!! I remember totally doing this when I first got into typography.... (also love the small aspect ratio for these types of videos!)
@johnninocovers
@johnninocovers Ай бұрын
As with other things on the internet, you can always count on people to be expert on something they didn't even know was a thing 12 minutes ago.
@Iseeyousleeping
@Iseeyousleeping Ай бұрын
Just a good point being made in general, thankful more folks are bringing this sort of " weaponized pedantry ( & conversely weaponized fuckwittery ) " to task. Cheers dude!!
@MoxieLaBouche
@MoxieLaBouche Ай бұрын
Here's a question, do periods (full stops) change from font to font? On one hand it's like, how would you, and on the other it's that someone must have tried.
@andrewkrahn2629
@andrewkrahn2629 Ай бұрын
the size can change a bit, and whether they're circles, ovals, skewed ovals, or diamonds
@rellloom
@rellloom Ай бұрын
I think in typeface design circles the definition of a typeface and font has changed also, and there is a practical reason to keep using them. I myself and a lot of my friends define typeface as the design and the font as a specific means of reproduction. Therefore, the fonts folder is named appropriately, etc. And it’s helpful when discussing faces like Garamont/Helvetica/Palatino that have like 900 different digitisations where you might actually want to discriminate between talking about the face at large vs a specific font. Though for the general population it really really does not matter. They generally use the term correctly just by accident too if you use the more modern-adjusted definitions.
@pufthemajicdragon
@pufthemajicdragon Ай бұрын
I dunno, this topic may be less interesting for you, but learning the history of fonts and typefaces in this video was really interesting to me. So, in a way, the pedant's distinction has gifted us viewers some wonderful new (old) knowledge :) And actually, I'd love to see you produce a longer deep dive video into that history!
@RobertSciberras
@RobertSciberras Ай бұрын
I fight fire with fire. There was one notorious 'corrector' on typeface vs font, I made a note on the exact wording used to describe the importance of getting things right. Then I waited for a semester for the 'corrector' to use "uppercase" to describe a capital glyph in a script, I well actuallyed that scripts aren't types so have no association with cases and well actually the correct terms are "minuscule" and "majuscule" then gave the same boring spiel on correctness.
@giraffidae
@giraffidae Ай бұрын
Achshually
@aatox
@aatox Ай бұрын
Hahaha! I used to LOVE to make that distinction back in the 90's! I felt so clever and cool! :D
@msteerie
@msteerie 29 күн бұрын
THANK YOU!!! YOU UNDERSTAND!! YOUVE PUT THIS SO WELL!
@Packbat
@Packbat 23 күн бұрын
Shutting up is honestly a superpower. Good take, good video.
@Akuma72
@Akuma72 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for this 😭😭😭
@Shocker99
@Shocker99 Ай бұрын
Well acktually, i really love your videos!
@smithwillnot
@smithwillnot Ай бұрын
I don't remember if I ever tried to correct someone but I do remember my professor telling me I should or something along those lines.
@EPMTUNES
@EPMTUNES Ай бұрын
Great video! You’re excellent at describing all sorts of topics for the layman (like me).
@Lukis687
@Lukis687 Ай бұрын
I admire your channel a lot. Your videos are so interesting and you speak on a "niche" subject with great passion. You deserve a lot more subscribers!
@salmiakki5638
@salmiakki5638 Ай бұрын
Hi Linus, thank you for the nice video, as always *Very* ot with the video, but related with the current news: What is the downing street nr. "10" typeface?
@Snappy1143
@Snappy1143 25 күн бұрын
Very much agree! When I started my design education I was told to always be careful to use the appropriate term and prefer "typeface" because it sounds more professional. Really got tiring because it's honestly a waste of brainpower 90% of the time, and usually just leads to more confusion for most people and situations. I'll still specify typeface when the distinction is important, or if it's a somewhat formal context, but 99% of the time I just say "font" because it's generally understood in the same way. And yes the meaning has definitely changed over time, so it's not even really "wrong" most of the time
@BoterBug
@BoterBug 27 күн бұрын
"An underrated life skill, in my opinion, is knowing when to shut the f__k up." I love that.
@quinnmackay-smith9352
@quinnmackay-smith9352 Ай бұрын
Hey @LinusBoman, can you make the next video about "How scrolls, ribbons, and banners with texts are important to graphics?" Please?
@MattGDesign
@MattGDesign 21 күн бұрын
I've always thought of a font being the technology, the typeface being the design. Lettering is neither a font or a typeface, but you can make either into a font, whether it be a physical set or software implemented set.
@intangiblematter_misc
@intangiblematter_misc Ай бұрын
This video is honestly the thing that has knocked the most active pedantry out of me. Thanks, Linus /gen
@pXnTilde
@pXnTilde Ай бұрын
I like to say, "everyone understood my meaning, and you clearly understood my meaning, so language successful."
@elektr1x7881
@elektr1x7881 Ай бұрын
loving this new style of video!!!
@marchwhitlock6455
@marchwhitlock6455 Ай бұрын
First I've seen of your channel was this video recommended to me on my homepage and I misread the thumbnail as reading "Weaponized Trauma" and thought this was going to be a very different video lmao
@JudyCZ
@JudyCZ Ай бұрын
OMG as the "regular person who doesn't understand the difference and appreciates you saying 'font'", thank you and great example with the tomato. Hate people fighting about whether it's a fruit or a vegetable. It doesn't matter at all.
@scout8145
@scout8145 12 күн бұрын
Oh hey, I’ve seen your exact same point in historical fashion content, about “corset” vs “stays” (and other similar terms)! When you’re making content for a general audience, it makes way more sense to use the term that your audience recognizes (a corset, a font) than the one that might be more appropriate in a technical conversation (a pair of stays, a typeface). Also, as any modern person who has tried to find primary sources for historical fashion can tell you, trying to search for the term “stays” is a miserable experience. While that’s less relevant for “typeface,” it shows that SEO matters. Not just to the algorithm, but to the experience of real people who are interested in finding this content.
@Daniel-ev1gx
@Daniel-ev1gx Ай бұрын
Angela Collier did a great video about Gell-Mann Amnesia that discusses this idea of weaponizing trivia
@DeviantOllam
@DeviantOllam Ай бұрын
Absolutely outstanding point made here. Well done, as always. 👍😁👍
@TheLazyBot
@TheLazyBot Ай бұрын
"An underrated life skill is knowing when to shut the fuck up." BASED
@doktordumb
@doktordumb Ай бұрын
In my experience, when you change the "font" in a text editor (or graphic app) you are actually thinking of the whole thing (face, size, weight) in a more organic way, since they appear to be just parameters of a single entity.
@wezul
@wezul 21 күн бұрын
Hear hear. Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise Ай бұрын
There are alot of terms like this where some designers insist on speaking like they are typesetting for a letterpress machine when what they are mostly having to do is make banner ads, emails and landing pages. All this means is that when you are speaking with the developer who is going to bring your design to life in code you're making it harder by using different words for everything.
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts
@Ten_Thousand_Locusts Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. I can't wait to annoy my friends by telling them they're wrong when they say font. Cheers!
@johningham1880
@johningham1880 Ай бұрын
“Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad” - Miles Kington
@waspen
@waspen Ай бұрын
Don't let haters/trolls drain your energy. I will argue most of your followers (also in general) agree with your perspective.
@lankyjuggler
@lankyjuggler 29 күн бұрын
Banger video start to finish ❤
@OmegaGlops
@OmegaGlops Ай бұрын
Oh, wow! I never knew the difference between the two until now. Thanks for the info! 😇 I will now utilize this learning opportunity to weaponize this trivia in all future conversations that involve the word "font" in any way, shape, or form. 😈
@aaron74
@aaron74 Ай бұрын
I've been trying to say "typeface" when I actually do mean a family of fonts (say, Helvetica and its family of weights both regular and oblique), but I still end up saying "font". But when I say "font", I always tend to be referring to the most commonly used weight and non-italic/oblique. There will forever be ambiguity, but luckily it is indeed semantics and not critical.
@knightoftherake2448
@knightoftherake2448 Ай бұрын
the linguistic descriptivism angle is a really good way to tackle this problem
@ps.2
@ps.2 28 күн бұрын
Yeah - as another commenter in thread said, today we speak of a "font family," presumably because the lay public no longer knows what exactly a typeface is. So while you argue about it ... the English language has already moved on. (:
@i8dacookies890
@i8dacookies890 Ай бұрын
I bet you got that tomato analogy from Innuendo Studios, I really love that video.
@ALampe
@ALampe Ай бұрын
Thank you, just Thank you for "weaponized trivia".
@altrogeruvah
@altrogeruvah Ай бұрын
"Weaponized trivia" is such a great term for doing what you think it's an invaluable contribution when practically speaking you just yelled at a cloud
@gaseouslizard
@gaseouslizard 29 күн бұрын
I was brushing my teeth, and when you said "and underated life skill in my opinion, is knowing when to shut the f*** up" and I laughed so hard and unexpectedly I nearly almost threw up. Kudos to you I guess 😅👍🏼 1:30
@somnvm37
@somnvm37 Ай бұрын
pretty nice to see such a video so far, in many communities it's quite normal to tell someone to kys because of a misspelling or not knowing a detailed fact.
@6022
@6022 Ай бұрын
Whenever I write in fonts, the water makes the ink run, and the priest gets all angry that I'm ruining the christening.
@nahrky
@nahrky Ай бұрын
The ☝️ on the shelf behind you was a nice touch!
@JohnSmith-cq7lk
@JohnSmith-cq7lk Ай бұрын
Actual truth vs functional truth. I was bad for correcting people.
@bigmclargehuge8219
@bigmclargehuge8219 Ай бұрын
Thank you, algorithm, for sharing this video with me! Its got it all, good life lessons, learning opportunities and a lil history lesson!
@loldoctor
@loldoctor Ай бұрын
Love the aspect ratio, this should be standard in the present day!
@GustavoFernandesKing
@GustavoFernandesKing Ай бұрын
Well, actually, being an insufferable smart ass of "technically correction" is the whole reason I studied design, so...
@glennac
@glennac Ай бұрын
You must be a delight at parties.😅
@ghostAFsky
@ghostAFsky Ай бұрын
​@@glennacpeople who use the phrase "you must be fun at parties" must be fun at parties
@glennac
@glennac Ай бұрын
@@ghostAFsky How’d ja’ know! 🤪
@mimikyoo
@mimikyoo Ай бұрын
Linus coming in with good life advice
@GoldenBeholden
@GoldenBeholden Ай бұрын
I like this aspect ratio for more casual videos. Internet Shaquille does the same thing on his second channel, and it has always felt a bit cozy to me.
@LinusBoman
@LinusBoman Ай бұрын
I shamelessly copied his idea.
@asailijhijr
@asailijhijr Ай бұрын
It is for similar public accessibility reasons that Matt Parker from Standup Maths says 'dice', even when they're talking about one of them.
@neilelkins2009
@neilelkins2009 Ай бұрын
You'll find 'that person' in every office, and they're the reason everyone uses instant messaging instead of just speaking out loud.
@arnbrandy
@arnbrandy Ай бұрын
*Me, a software engineer:* Thank goodness, I hate this kind of pedantic trivia. *Linus:* "... HTML and CSS has font tags..." *Me:* So you've chosen war.
@arnbrandy
@arnbrandy Ай бұрын
(Just kidding, we got what you mean.)
@torb-no
@torb-no Ай бұрын
If you’re missing a word that captures roughly the same meaning as ‘typeface’ I think ‘font family’ does that fairly nicely too, and everyone probably understands what you mean (even if they haven’t heard the term before).
@robotword
@robotword Ай бұрын
alot more people need to see this video. you spoke some hard truths in the start
@FinetalPies
@FinetalPies Ай бұрын
Tomatoes are actually vegetables. They are also fruits, but all fruits that we consume are vegetables. Semantics may not matter, but they sure are fun.
@caractacuspottsAZ
@caractacuspottsAZ Ай бұрын
Well, actually, I'm glad for those pedants leaving those comments for I would not have had the joy of watching this video.
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