My biggest nit-pick for this game is probably the fact that they have certain course elements/clear conditions in story mode that, for whatever reason, aren't in the normal level editor

I just wish super worlds had a bonus world option, items staying through stages, item holder, different game styles, and 7 levels a world

For the stacking thing, you can put an enemy on a track and then remove the track. Its anoying and mosy likely a bug, but there is a way to have the enemies not stack

*Odyssey making a video about things he doesn’t like in smm2* _“Impossible.”_

4:48 My brain played the boom vine sound effect when I saw it and made it more funnier.

These are the kind of oddessy central vids we need. This is the best oddessy central vid I’ve seen in a while.

My biggest nit pick is that you can't stack pipes, which makes then look like they aren't connected to each other, making them look cheap

Completely agree with your point about downloading levels. I learned a few new tricks by doing that in SMM1. But I see the point about some people just plagiarizing levels.

The most frustrating thing about not being able to stack enemy in 3D world is that IT IS ACTUALLY POSSIBLE to stack them by using a glitch, like it works perfectly fine but Nintendo just didn't want to add it for literally no reason.

My nitpick is why are Fire Bros and Porcu-Puffer not in none of the classic game styles despite them originated there.

8:56 Hey it's Mayro :)

My biggest nitpicks are the fact they changed some really useful tech and hitboxes from SMM1, as well as remove a couple of items and stuff for no real reason.

but...if we had a restart from checkpoint I wouldn't be able to watch Carl and friends suffer through grueling anti-softlocks.

Great vid! Love that this game is still getting discussed even after Nintendo pretty much completely abandoned it. From the perspective of someone who has pretty much only been building in this game for like the past 1 and a half years, here's some of my pet-peaves when it comes to building levels: - *The Night Themes being so restrictive* : Why do they all have to have the musicbox covers and why are the effects stuck to them. For instance why can't I make a Poison Jungle during the day, with the normal Jungle theme. Conversely, can't have the backgrounds and visuals without the effects, which is also restrictive and dumb. - *The 3D Worlds Semi-Solid* ...not only is there only one option per level theme, but the fact that the very top must be open at all times almost entirely defeats the purpose of a semi-solid as it makes it so clunky to use...you can't even put coins at the very top. I have never understood why it works that way instead of just functioning like it does in all the other gamestyles. - *Fully Vertical Levels are not possible* , only vertical sub-worlds. Why you can't have an entire level be a long epic climb up a tower or mountain or so I have no idea. - *Can't put Key Coins or Regular Coins on enemies* meaning the only way to give any incentive to defeating enemies is with the restrictive clear conditions or by giving them keys, which only open key-doors (or warp boxes) which are very limited in number. - *Clear conditions* Conceptually I love that they're in the game at all, it allows you to make levels that feel a lot different in style and tone, but there's so many things limited about them...why can you only have one at a time, why is there no option to hide it, why on earth do they disable checkpoints?? If Checkpoints can save your collected Key Coins, then why not the same for Clear Conditions? This alone makes them insanely less usable and I for the life of me cannot understand this. - *Can't mash up level themes* So there's ice blocks and frozen coins, so making something like an Ice Cave or Ice Castle is technically possible, but not with any other theme. Why are there no desert tiles, so you can make a desert cave or sandcastle or sth? No Lava tiles, no Water tiles, no Poison tiles either. - *The Clunky Hammer Suit* Such a unique diverse power-up, made so annoying to play with because the hammer swing stops all your momentum completely and is mapped to the same button as summoning crates. Nintendo, stop putting very different, polar opposite functions on the same button! What has annoyed me most though since the very first game... - *The Timer not allowing more than 500 secs* . Making really long levels basically forces you to make it so you have to die at the checkpoint to reset the timer, which is so weird because they give you all this space, all this crazy amount of room to work with, so many items and options and possibilites...yet no more than 500 secs. With no clock item to increase the timer, no option to turn it off or make it go to 999 or at least 700 secs or so. Just always stuck with the timer. But at the end of the day I've sunk so many hours into this game that at this point, I've just gotten used to all these annoyances. As much as I still cringe at them occasionally, I just learnt to accept them and work around them. All the options make up for it.

I must mention I love the editing in this video!! Great video odyssey!!!

I have my own nitpick. The fact that you can start over once hitting the checkpoint. Every pro SMM2 player has done this at least once and it can be annoying, especially on difficult levels (that actually have checkpoints). I think we should be able to toggle this on/off in the case of if you need it for a level you’re grinding to have the start over button show, or to have it not show when doing difficult levels that have them

Regarding Super Worlds, I'd love to see the ability to change the overworld theme. I don't know why Super Mario World is the only option for the overworld.

Hi Odyssey, This is MegaOOF Boi here. It appears that you showcased my level Bowser's Hot Garbage Can as a Little Timmy level, which in itself was meant to be a showcase of bad level design with a catch so other creators don't create it. We (yes this is a shared account) have made a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in the series in which they are done more tastefully than the first. Please don't go thinking we are a Little Timmy Maker. We're not posting this comment to be angry, we are just clarifying. We like your video content anyway. Also, I'm just surprised our world appeared at all in the Super Worlds, so that's nice.

I swear, Super Worlds are such missed potential. I wish you could have at least 10 different world themes instead of 8, just in case you have a custom theme/ boss rush theme. There should also be up to 8 levels per world, there have been so many times I wanted to include a mini boss but I couldn’t due to the level limit.

If I had a nickel for every time I’ve missed a Ninji Speedrun, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice. If Speedruns come back in MM3, they HAVE to make a certain schedule. Literally the only way I knew new levels were released were videos online, which is why I missed Link and one other.

4:45 bro that comment caught me so off guard

7:55 nice Otherside snuck in there!

6:00 OMG THANK YOU!! I hate that so much ._.

Your upload schedule is fine don't worry about it. Quality over quantity

6:27 Looks like someone else is also trained in the ways of crappy internet humor Bazinga, my man

I really love your content! Keep up the good work!

Im still surprised that Odyssey central only has 82.5k subs, his efforts and quality of his vids deserve more subs

My personal nitpicks: *Spikes should be Snow Spikes in the snow theme. *The Bulls Eye Banzais in the 3D World theme should be called Cat Banzai Bills. *Red Cheep Cheeps should be the default version instead of green ones. *Better angry sun design for NSMBU (the Mario Kart Wii design would have been the best imo) *Why unnecessarily change the name from Koopa Clown Car to Junior Clown Car in Mario U style? Why not just call it “Clown Car” in all styles. *Red Pow Blocks should be able to float in the air, like in 3D World, rather than have gravity like the blue ones. *Change the Mario U checkpoint flag back to rectangle like in Mario Maker 1. Also give us 8 rotation directions for them again. *Why can’t blinking blocks blink in double time like in Galaxy 2 and 3d world

wow, i came back after not watching and your videos have improved a ton man! keep up the good work!

My least favorite thing is that you can't upload an edited version of a level you already uploaded. I wanted to make a bonus world out of special versions of previous levels in the world, like in 3D land and world, but even after editting it it says it was already uploaded, meaning I would have to recreate the level 1 for 1 and then edit it.

Please give us the option to undo boos. I booed one of my friend's levels back in 2019 by accident, and it sucks that I can't undo it.

Love your vids odyssey

There’s a lot wrong with the super worlds, it was all very cool having a world mode but they could have given us more. Features such as: over 8 worlds and if not a star world might be just as cool. Imagine the player being able to beat your game and moving on to secret levels. Even though big coins are in the game I still thinks star coins would be cool, maybe use them to purchase different things that the creator can implement into their world or be used as a support for star world. Let player re-visit previous worlds and levels but also allow us to have more than 5 measly levels, upping the upload count for the user would make this easier. Allow us to have more than one world up for sure! I can’t tell you how much I want to have a sequel to a super world after my first one is finished, to upload my second I would have to delete my first, also what if I had some sort of story telling element with my super world that is needed mostly to enjoy the world to a fuller extent but I have to delete my first world for my second to be uploaded? Not even that the difficulty will naturally be harder in my second game so yeah... next nitpick: We’ve requested beach, volcano, Mountain themes and more by now Nintendo why haven’t those been made? Why can’t I make a forest level without water, it throws the main focus of some levels off for me and inhibits me from making a better stage. Speaking of which, I can’t have quicksand, water, and lava tiles in my levels? How did that thought never cross their mind in development?! We’re still missing original enemies... this might be a lot so I’m not really mad but maker needs customizable enemies like bullet bros or cursed yoshis lol idk 😆. I agree with everything stated in this video, we need an update and some fixes. Give us a mix and match theme selection, I would personally love to make stuff like an ice or lava/ moon cave or a dessert oasis. One last thought: “refreshing levels” need to be freaking banned, the crap is annoying and the popularity behind it, I personally find dumb as hell. Thanks to anyone who read this far, maybe tell me what you think.

My Least Favorite Thing About MM2 Is That There's Exclusive Items In The Story Mode, Just, Why

This video's transitions are soo goood and sooo smooth

Hi Odyssey, is there any chance to tell us when the next time when you play are maker levels is? I usually miss them, so it would be nice to plan ahead. But you do they randomly, that's fine.

Someone actually created a site you can use to pretty easily see the boo count of any stage by just typing the level code. It's pretty interesting to see. Although the site might be using like an actual Switch to operate or something so it might get taken down at some point.

Yes I agree even though I haven’t watched the video cause I love your videos Odyssey Central and I would donate if I wasn’t poor.

I forgot to mention this in another comment but a simple fix to level plagiarism for the most part could be to allow someone to download a level but not let them upload the downloaded level and instead allow them to edit for their sake. This would make for such an easier time with allowing players to learn more complex level techniques that they could take inspiration from and implement in their levels, just saying-it would be a cool idea.

I love this kind of video!

One of my nitpicks about this video (and others when applicable) is that you mention a SMM3 as if it's guaranteed to happen. Still love your videos though :D

0:06:Me who has 550 hours in Super Mario Maker 2: Another player with over 250 hours on Super Mario Maker 2, our battle will be legendary!!

Also I wish there was a regular bowser in 3DW. (I read somewhere that you unlock it add the end of story mode, it was a lie lol) (also on that note, they should’ve had more unlockables in 3dw, maybe just powerups

2:06 You're consistently inconsistent. Therefore consistent.

I really wish we could stack arrows on semisolids and offset arrows. Also, I wish in the editor, we could control the initial on/off switch state when playtesting. Would save sooo much time when playtesting for complex contraptions, especially troll levels. Edit: forgot about a separate track mode. Making contraptions with complicated tracks is annoying

The thing i miss is a world records for highest score as that would endorse exploring levels

I’m getting super mario maker 2 for Xmas and I’ve been watching you for tips and how to get the costumes 😊😊

Dude your almost there! 99.7K subs!

My personal biggest nitpick is some of the music. Why do the desert and forest themes in SMB3 just use the ground theme music instead of original music? Why is the SMB1 boss music just from SMB3 instead of something like 8-bit recreations of the All-Stars SMB1 boss music? Also my idea for an improved scroll-stop is making it its own placeable object. It'd be adjustable in size much like semi-solid platforms, with the minimum size being the exact size of the screen. Thinking about it, this could allow for things like not needing walls to stop the screen from scrolling, or maybe having you lock in an area by walking into where the scroll-stop is placed. I dunno, what do you think?

It would be so easy to just make it so that downloaded levels couldn't be uploaded even if they were edited. That way you could still study and pick apart other people's levels, but couldn't just copy and reupload them.

My biggest problem with the game? It doesn't support a USB mouse. There are titles on the Switch that can use a mouse (like Smile Basic 4), so the system can handle it. That would make game creation in docked mode a lot easier.

I don’t like how some stuff is limited to backgrounds, Conkdors can be seen in the background of 3D world’s desert theme and in Mario U underwater there is a Cheep chomp in the background Sometimes but you can’t Even use those kinds of stuff in the maker, Even the stone and the Toad are locked Behind the story mode it’s weird Why add them in the Game as backgrounds or the story mode but not in the maker

Someone in the smm2 Reddit found a way to make a website which allows the user to input an ID and see not only how many boos the level has but a bunch of other info like how many versus rounds have been played on it. He does it by using his switch and having it always connected to the website so it might not work yet

I have over 1,600 hours in this game and I love it but it could’ve been SO much better. I have so many problems with this game it’s insane.

Nitpick Refreshing special levels

8:11 Did you just took the effort to edit and make a frames long joke? That's amazing.

there should be a scrollstop block that overlaps wherever, so you could just have open air stopping you, like the end of a level

Personally, I think that it is a crime that they don’t have an infinite time option.

A nitpick i had since SMM 1 is the ability to place/remove decoration floor, walls and ceilings. Things like flowers in grass, bushes, decorative clouds, tripophobic airship semisolids, etc...

I love how at some parts the otherside soundtrack is on in the back round.

My two biggest gripes was how early they killed this game off and how underwhelming Super Worlds were. Like, you can't even make branching paths in it.

Speaking of the Super World naming scheme - I don't think anyone would want to be called 'Traditional' just to have a world called 'Super Traditional World'.

i disagree with the scroll stop one just because if just having a wall floor and ceiling meet created scroll stop, itd create scroll stops where people may not want it, like if you wanted the edge of your screen to have 2 or 3 blocks. I think the current system is the best they could do without having a scroll stop object or something, which may be harder to use. It isnt great, but i think a lot of the scroll stop issues have more to do with Mario makers tiny level sizes than anything.

Not really a nitpick but I would like the leaderboards to reset every week/month or so instead of having the no.1 always staying as no.1 (DSteves). This can encourage people to fight for that no.1 and not always have the same players hogging the top of the leaderboards thus meaning that people (especially those who can't play the game 24/7) may a hard time being able to get the costumes due to the fact that the leaderboard (unlike in many other games) don't reset. Let's be real here, no one's is gonna sit down and try to do like 10K easy levels lol from scratch as they'll most likely never catch up. Also means that the no.1 will have to put in a lot of effort to maintain that position as opposed to being able to sit back and keep it for a while because most players will simply not bother to try and beat it (too unrealistic for them).

Great video!

love the vid bro

It’s funny how ODYSSEY central says his top 2 most played switch game isn’t Mario odyssey

I like the dedication - still demanding dry bones after sakuri has left

“Drop everything that you are doing, Odyssey has a new upload!”

About the boo count, I make very difficult levels, and my most popular has nearly 500 plays (and one clear, I might add). It has like 30 likes, making an ~1:15.667 like:play ratio. I would LOVE to see the boos, and I know that there is a way to check them, but I won’t be able to, so it’s unfortunate for me. Also, it only shows likes on super worlds. This is worse because you can’t see a play:like ratio. What if you see a super world with 500 likes? It would seem good. You wouldn’t be able to tell; what if it has 10000 plays?

My biggest nitpick of this game is that for some reason they put things exclusive to some styles and you could only use it in only that style. Like you cannot put Porcupuffers on Galoombas on other styles bc "It's exclusive"

I really hope Nintendo makes MM3 for the people who actually play the game and not the little kids who play it once, shit out a level, and never touch it again. Like come on Nintendo, make it for the MM community!

Has nobody noticed the select tool in the editor is super annoying? You need to change the zoom in order to select more blocks, which is still okay… but why the heck is the select limit literally 1 block less than an entire screen?

Odyssey Central is my favorite Nintendo KZfaqr.

Hey so there's something I noticed which you didn't seem to. Along as you don't place anything on the top half of the level, then you can just stop the walls at the top of the bottom screen

Here's mine: Spike Hitboxes Airship Scrolling Add An Uncleared Endless Mode The Don't touch the ground feature is a good idea but it should be broken if you press the jump button. I can't tell you how finicky it is when I make it through a level and it loses it because of going too fast or something. Being able search for specific items in the game. Like sometimes I want to play a level with red coins but there's no way to search for it. Having required clear conditions allowed to be in hidden blocks. I get there can be smart ways around this, but most of the horrible levels have hidden requirements with no clues in it. Note blocks and claws need to be reprogrammed. They always eat my jump. Downloading the levels again. RESTART FROM CHECKPOINT. I wish theyd just do more updates. There are tons of enemies, power ups, and ideas they can to Mario Maker still.

Guys get him to 100K I really want to see that moon ranking vid!

What do u mean when u said make 9 10 levels a filter as well because they change the game so much 7:00

In addition to this, I'd love it if they added Dry Bowser in Super Mario Maker 3. (Or to this game if possible)

4:50 that comment is absolutely beautiful

10:39 you can just remove the parachute, might be the same for the wings

I enjoyed this. Finally somebody pointing out the bs in MM2

Another nitpick is that in multiplayer versus, only levels with flagpoles let you lose the match but still get the flagpole in order to not lose as many points. If you get SMW, SMB3, or a castle with an axe, if you lose you're guaranteed to lose more points.

whats the background music in 7:54?

How many hours do you have in Ssbu?

Personally, my biggest problem with the game was the touch screen. You know; the VERY thing that made editing so STREAMLINED? I tried using a stylus but it just wouldn’t work. And on top my copy of the game not getting the Koopaling update for NO reason at ALL, it honestly in my opinion made the first game my preference. But for all I know these issues could be exclusive to my copy of the game.🤔 Hell, I literally had look up how unlock them and it was HARDLY any help at all!

Predictions before watching: (Idk if these are 100% accurate but they’re what I remember being the case) -can’t stack pipes anymore -can’t throw an item upward and grab it while spinning in mario world anymore -the zone you just can’t place blocks inside of in the editor that’s only there cuz of multiplayer -dark water levels (And some personal ones) -there’s no option to add just a single level to your super world without overwriting your existing uploaded one entirely -there’s no zero coins or zero powerups clear condition -there’s no option to set a clear condition for multiple boss enemies -the angry sun in nsmbu is ugly but idrc cuz it sucks -the angry sun sucks

I love he goes over the fact that he randomly got Mayro's super world and just ignores it

Around 8:16 pigste.. ah no its the other one added like otherside or smth, i miss pigstep 😂

nice otherside backround!

8:11 Is that an *EPIC CHAD* I see?

Odyssey central I am subscribed and I still need to search your chanel instead of it being on the home menu But I am still subscribed

4:50 What is that comment on the left? I’ve never seen anything like that.

This is such a good video

I really hope whatever next Mario Maker update/game lets you create levels from a pc, and then transfer it to the console. The quality of life would be immense... Or even create a dedicated peripheral with a decent stylus or something.

One thing I'd love to see, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo won't touch with a 100 foot pole, is the ability to bind scripts to entities. JavaScript would be a good candidate for the template language to use as a base. Users would need to hook their switch to a full on keyboard to truly make use of this and it's the kind of feature you'd want to hide from beginners. With scripting you could rewrite how enemies behave, from something as simple as walking right by instead of the default of "towards Mario" Or the red shelled flying koopas could be programmed to fly a specific patrol pattern instead of the up and down default. Some wonderfully creative level design would become possible, albeit along with some truly evil trolling, but some people like that too.

Love Ur vids tho !

You can already do online play in SMM2 Just go to multiplayer, add the players as switch friends, and play with them

For me its the whole themes in general, get rid of themes and make backrounds customizable, like a jungle backround with no water and castle ground

My big nitpick is the removal of diagonal checkpoints.