Good to know about the doors. I have also seen your design. Basically our two designs could be combined. Leave the lower room here open and add an open-to-the-outside-room to it. Rearrange everything so the critter storage room with a dropper mechanism is in a vacuum place it above a magma pit or cooker mechanism. Done. Edit: Thanks for the tip for the lower door. Who ever reads this: you can leave out the automation for the lower door the pokeshell should just drop through it even when closed. That saves alot of cabling.

Thank you that motivates me :)

@@Luma_plays You deserve every bit of it. Thank you for the great content!

Haha now that you say it. I should be a silent "e" right? I always forget the name of that critter so i am thinking of: poking a shell :D

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@@dostzajimave55 p-p-p pokeshells p-p pokeshells

Hey Doktor. Thanks for the critique/feedback. I had the underlying feeling something was off, but couldn't figure it out. It was too static and something was missing.

@@Luma_plays Lol, this was meant positively. Is a powerpoint something inherently bad?😅

@@doktorsalami9315 Haha ok well thanks for that. I guess I associated with an older medium and non direct communication. Sure In school and University you need to be food at that. But the real good presenters cut ppt presentation completely and rely on their presence. You pointed out what I unconsciously noticed. But I don't know yet what to change in the vids so it probably will stay like that 😅

@@Luma_plays To hopefully make this somewhat useful for you: What I meant was that instead saying "pokeshell eat polluted dirt" you additionally showed some polluted dirt on a little pedestal. You drew on the screen to make clear what you wanted us to look at. Generally well made.

@@doktorsalami9315 Thanks for the clarification. I would have also been thankful if it were criticism because from both i can learn :)

Funny you mention that. I planned on doing that because my pacu farm is flawed and I have to fix a small part of it anyways :D

@@Luma_plays Nicee! Can't wait for it!

They actually don't drop through the open door they get pressed through the open/closed door (i learned that after building) by the upper of the 2 doors when that one closes. In short: top door closes and presses critter through lower door

@@Luma_plays Accidental future proofing, amazing. You've got some interesting designs and layouts, easy new sub.

Thanks Kyle :D

I think that part was optional. It just makes use of the Pokeshells diet. The polluted stuff they eat might off-gas and produce polluted oxygen. But when they eat it they produce sand which can be used in the deodorizers to clean the oxygen as well. So i though it could be a good combination

I try to avoid the "wet" debuff more than offgassing polluted dirt since i most of the time have 2kg of pressure in the base which already prevents offgasing. But nice ideas that i didn't think of :)

They only get aggressive if a pinch roe egg is in the same room. Which is why we store them elsewhere

I found a way without dumping magma. Transfering the magma heat via a bridge to the pokeshells that get then trapped in a steel door activating the heat transfer. Only works in vacuum othervise you destroy your base. :/

@@Luma_plays Good idea, must test.

@@greezyhammer764 Hey hey here is a link cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805918536882847797/915695418942320650/Oxygen_Not_Included_2021.12.01_-_21.05.55.08.mp4 if that helps

Hi Ultimaheart4. One tile storages are normally the best solution for everything. Less computing power needed to calculate the pathfinding and small amounts of shells, food or byproducts for ever. I normally use whatever I can find and need at that moment. That ranch has been specifically designed for KZfaq and is no long time design of me. But alot of testing went into it. Polluted dirt could be used for creating dirt, sand or oxygen. Wild pokeshells are very good in filtration rooms near the water sieve. they eventually die because the polluted dirt is not enough to feed them. But they lay an egg before they perish.

do you prefer the dirt use for p-dirt? i have a ton of water so oxygen isnt an issue, i do need dirt for my crops, i dont use coal much but i could make sage hatchs to turn p-dirt into coal... i realize you said what ever you needed at the time is what you use things for, but i like to partially plan ahead, i dont like to waste my dupes on things i dont need them for.

@@ultimaheart4304 For coal I think they would be very inefficient in comparison to the regular or stone hatches. I would probably use them in composts to produce dirt (which can be turned back into p dirt), the heat that creates can be used too.

@@Luma_plays well p-dirt into coal is 140-140 instead of half. sage hatchs are very efficient, but losing the dirt potential into coal isnt great i agree.

Good question. I think this still works. because pokeshells haven't been able to reproduce if not fed at least a bit when tamed. So in this old setup only the breeder pokeshells and the refill pokeshells have been relevant anyways. the rest is just stored. But i am not completely sure

That is a sandbox tool that you get by activating the dev mode. You can get that by typing kleiplay in the main menu (only for 1 session) or adding a single line in the game files somewhere. can't remember how it is done, better google that my info is outdated probably

Then check out my building tutorial video :D kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9GklJmLtsWumIE.htmlsi=8EIiJD2Z-B-BPhpH

You want to keep as many as possible wild, and only take one to feed and tame.

What Jemsterr said! You can get as many tamed pokeshells as you want. But you cannot get your wild ones back once you tamed them.

Hey@@RobertLutece909 are you sure about the grooming part? I have a contraption in the pokeshell testing world that does exactly that. The game eggs get hatched then the pokeshells vrow up drop down get groomed once and dropped down again. They die before laying an egg. Because groomed tame pokeshells need wayyy more food. So they die faster and don't lay an egg. At least in my testing. You can delay that by feeding them micrograms of food. but that is tedious. If I am wrong, that would be good cause I could increase the farm efficiency :)

@@RobertLutece909 Oh i might found out where we may misunderstand each other. I meant grooming as in ONCE. Not regularly. Short answer: I probably made some weird mistake somewhere. Long answer: So a pokeshell spawn that just grew up to a pokeshell starts with around 850 kcal and when groomed needs 100kcal of that each day. each day they get +17 reproduction. But only for 1 or a few cycles (depending on the ranching skill of the dupe). They would also need 10 days to starve after reaching 0 kcal. After being unhappy while not groomed they will drop metabolism by 80 needing less food and only gaining 2% reproduction per cycle. So a constantly groomed 100% of the time happy pokeshell will need 100/17= 5.88cycles to reproduce and would need 8 cycles +10 cylces to starve. So yes it should work with permanently groomed pokeshells. But i somehow never tried that! :D I tried grooming them once then dropping them in a room so 800 - 100 to 200 kcal for 1 to 2 days happy time which equals to + 17 or + 34% reproduction after that -20 kcal each day but only 2% reproduction. Assuming 2 days of being happy and groomed you would need 33 additional days to get the egg. The Pokeshell has 650 kcal left at that point that is 32,5 days until starving +10 days until the pokeshell dies. So even a single grooming would do the trick IF the pokeshell WOULD stay happy for two days. With only 1 day of happyness this would equal to: 17% + 2% each cycle => 850kcal - 100kcal - 20kcal each cycle after the first => the pokeshell would need to survive 41,5 days after the first groomed day to lay an egg. It reaches 0 kcal after 850-100-(37,5x20kcal), so after 37,5 days. which is not enough but if you add the 10 days it actually needs to die this should ALSO work. Somehow it still does not. Or my math is wrong of course XD. But morst of the time the critter is not 100% happy or gets dropped to slow and only gets half a cycle of grooming (so reproduction 17 divided by 2) as a bonus. The problem is probably the grooming inconsistency. Wait this should work even when not fed: 100% reproduction is reached after 50 cycles by 2% each cycle. and a pokeshell lives for 850kcal/20kcal= 42,5 cycles +10 cyles starving.

Could you explain to me why it does not work? Your testing seems to have been intensive with this setup.

@@Luma_plays maybe i wire something wrong

I understand. It looks packed, but it actually can be rebuild quite easy. You also don't need to open the doors the critter walk on. I learned that now :D They can drop through them

sometimes you gotta take care of the Duplicant plague on your planet. Preventing them from destroying the wildlife and stuff.

@@Luma_plays HAHAHAHAHAHA

If the top chamber is too full that can happen. I know there was another time where that could happen but only for a few cycles so that it still works in the long run. Can't remember exactly in what situation that occurs