That bezel wiggle made my heart sink. Truly a horological horror

My jaw dropped at the bezel wiggle. For $8900 that kind of issue is unthinkable. The bezel on my $70 Casio Duro doesn't even do that. With that said, *maybe* it's a defect they're willing to fix under warranty.

Recently found this channel. Love the attitude of not taking this whole thing too seriously. The background music is always great and I love all of the vibrant colors. Another great video!

I love this channel. Everyone can tell you love watches, and you're not remotely afraid to lean into the stereotypes and watch-nerd-ism's which makes for great, approachable, honest content. Keep it up my dude cause YoureTerrific...eh? eh? I'll see myself out...

2022 Christmas gift. thank you for the video. Went to hudson yard store to do a dry test, it fit like a glove. What a machine! Thinking of purchasing for myself as a gift.

You about covered it! I used to have 12 Panerai models, now down to 4 and counting. Selling off everything because of the repeated bad experiences I keep having with the brand. Not sure what is going on with Panerai anymore, but I had enough! Recently, Panerai damaged one of my watches on service and has still yet to resolve the issue. From sending the wrong size straps (how does that consistently happen?!) to the poor customer service received by their online concierge and the various boutiques I frequent....I AM DONE! Panerai will NEVER get another dime from me. Love your videos, happy new year!

For me, I have an endless supply of pitchforks in my quiver aimed at Panerai,for me! Happy New Year 🎆.

Your best video yet! That music was so cool and fit this video/watch so well. I absolutely love this watch too. I picked up an Omega Seamaster Diver 300M for my "diver on rubber strap" category. But one day I may upgrade to the PAM. There's nothing quite like it.

Love the soundtracks that you place over your content, this one may be the best yet. You need to bring out an album 👌

This was a perfect review. For me.

With you all the way, absolutely love this style, size and design, but how much, it’s absolutely mental, I simply can’t justify it in my mind/wallet. Thanks for another great video.

My 47 mm Submersible homage exhibits the very same looseness in the bezel. I would never have thought that the folks over at Kimsdun would go to such lengths to treat me to such an authentic Submersible ownership experience for only $25 (including shipping all the way from China)!

Yeah, no 9k watch should have those issues. The bezel wiggle is INSANE. Perfect video as always!

I TOTALLY agree with your review. I recently bought, after an arduous search of nearly 2 years, a PAM Submersible 1055. Same flaws as you pointed out. But I LOVE it!!!

You are totally right about the feeling of poor quality when you wear this watch. I am bummed I would like to have one but as soon as you pick one up the quality is a deal breaker for me. Spot on review.

Man, Panerai makes such awesome looking and unique watches. I would love to own one someday. 42mm is also a very approachable size if you can pull of a Seiko turtle. However, I have been hearing about small issues here and there about it and I appreciate you for pointing it out. You are also not being too harsh. That is unacceptable for the money you have to pay for it. Thanks for doing such a great job contrasting the good and bad.

I used to own one submersible titanium case 44mm but never had any of those issues with it. Was my favorite watch.

I love the bianco dial with the green straps very much!

Thank you for the video. Very well done. I own the 1209 42mm along with a 1312. At first I thought it was too small 7.75 inch wrist, but after some time the size has grown on me. All day comfort and still has some pop. My bezel doesn’t wiggle at all. Would definitely think that’s a warranty issue that should be fixed!

LOOOOVE my PAM 683. The matte ceramic bezel pulled me in. no bezel wiggle thank jeebus for that. Great video!

Great video. I agree with you totally. I have a love/hate relationship with the brand. There are several problems with Panerai. First, their Q&A is terrible. When purchasing a new one you have to inspect it with a magnifier and have them open the case back. Second, Panerai has made false claims about their, so called, in house movements. Finally, they are extremely over priced for what they are. The watch you discussed should be at least half the price compared to other luxury watches (I.e., Omega seamaster and Tudor peragos). I’m also torn between loving and wanting one, on the one hand, and focusing on all their problems.

I just watched a video so sick It made my jaw drop and my brain tick The visuals were fire, the beats were tight I couldn't help but move my feet and ignite The story was gripping, the message was clear It left me inspired, without a fear I'm telling you, this video was no joke It was the best thing I've seen, no smoke

Love it. I don't care that it has flaws. I bought the 42mm PAM 1223 and love it because its "for me!"

Thank you for calling out the QC issues, in my opinion many brands don’t take this serious enough!

“Anything smaller than an Italian wall clock is horological garbage.” Haha, brilliant.

Another great video! I agree with you on every point. I really like this watch but not for $9K (for me).

I've got a 683, bezel wiggles the same. But I do love it, its a charming watch

OOOOOOOOOF. QC-wise a shadow of the 00305 I handled around a decade ago. I adore Panerai's designs but I can only wrap my head around snapping up a base Radiomir and running away from them for reasons that have become a well beaten dead horse. Still beautiful and magical.

One of the best watch Channels on KZfaq! The quality and delivery on a next level.

This watch looks stunning on your wrist, spot on lug to lug length and the strap does not have that annoying overhang.

Happy new year, for you.

Dude, that intro music had me cruising. Great video.

It is cool for me too, and I share your frustration when seeing this lack of quality. I have seen cases where the bezel is not properly aligned too.

PAM 1223 - Purchased and love it. Its "for me"!

Great review as always, you're one of the best in the business. As for Panerai which I love and own, I've been thinking of selling mine because I just can't get over watches that aren't accompanied by great bracelets? Weird I know but I guess I'm just a bracelet guy. Also, at retail, Panerai are grossly overpriced from a value standpoint, however, on the secondary market, they're much better priced. Happy New Years 🎆

Yeah man, that bezel wiggle is WHOLLY unacceptable. My sub-$1000 Halios doesn’t do that. Nor any Zelos watch I’ve ever held. Yeah…no. Like you, I love everything conceptually about the watch but those quality control issues have no business whatsoever on a watch listed at that price.

I had a v serial 682 with the the exact same bezel wiggle. Panerai service center installed a bezel kit under warranty and that fixed the problem. It took about 6 weeks to get it back. For my inconvenience, they gave me a black Panerai alligator strap !!!

I love what you said: the movements are good but a little frail. The 3 day reserve is oscillating on keeping the day/second like a derailed tram.

Just a fantastic review. Thanks!

Great review! Just subbed. Honest and refreshing. Still love and have my Pam312.

Spot on in every way. Good stuff.

I dont understand why you only have 35k subscribers. you deserve hundreds of thousands moreeee!!!

I really love the aesthetic of this watch and it’s even on my list to buy. The issues you pointed out are eye opening and unacceptable, given the high price point. These should be $5k max. I bought a new Omega SMP in 2020 for $4k and it had to go in for warranty TWICE within a year but the quality & value is still excellent. Panerai is only hurting themself with these QC issues, expensive prices, & horrendous marketing. Great video & Happy New Year.

Big money mate. I see the issue you’re having. If I dish out that sort of money I want to feel whole heartedly content, at one and completely blind sided by any OCD oddities… For me…. Love you’re work mate.

Hello there. Have one myself. I went to my local dealer 4 years ago on the 21st of December. I thought I was not gonna like it. Man.... They ordered for me, as I asked if they had one, and they had one come from Madrid, once I saw it, dam, had to have it. Asked for 20% off. I would take immediately. They said yes. It's the best watch I have, and I have plenty. The finishing, is the best brushed watch I've seen so far. The difference you highlight between brushing near the lugs, is the way that brushing is done on the lugs, the handtool needs to over run the lug in order to be complete. You don't see it in other watches because the lugs are diferent, they are the continuation of the case. Panerai are not like that. Now, the bezel you are correct, I had stop myself from complaining under warranty, but wnt through the forums, and all watches are the same, so that would be a waste of time. Enjoy the watch. The bezel, is the best 60 secs bezel iv turned. Forget about the play it has radially. Coolest dive watch. Even the strap is incredible.

I am a Paneristi. Sorry to hear about your problems with your 682. I have a blue dial Luminor Marina. It is 44mm and I love it. Anyway, I agree with you that Panerai should focus more on the $5000 price range.

Pam683 here! Love it. One thing i noticed the rotating bezel is a bit loose feeling.

Love this watch. I have a 42mm Luminor and I am really thinking of buying a Submersible 42. I heard from Panerai that the size 42 mm is going to be discontinued soon.

About pricing.. spot on! Great watch for max $5k, or even better $4k price range (if you can get past quality issues). For Rolex money? No way!!

I change my mind, Honey I Shrunk the Panerai is no longer on my best movies of 2021 list. Its the price and in house movement, for that money I'd get a FF Bathyscape and call it a day.

I love it too, and agree totally about pricing. That loose bezel isn't acceptable, I would expect them to repair or replace that if I bought one like that.

Hey Evan! Love your channel! I'm thinking about the brand new luminor quranta. Fits my wrist perfectly, but I don't know if it became too small for what panerai is supposed to be of if it became to feminine. Or if it's considered a real panerai?

Another great video, Youre Terrific, thank you. So yeah, someone like me with my budget unfortunately value has to play a big part in purchase. Think even if I was rich, though, to be honest. Panerai kind of lost me when they took away sandwich dials on lower priced models. Your 111 is a definite keeper 🙂👍

Completely agreed. I was at a boutique the other day ready to pull the trigger on a submersible, then the bezel wiggle happened and I couldn’t believe my own eyes. This should be illegal

I know this is old, but thank you. Almost bit the bullet on this exact model today.

Love your style. 👍😉

I spat my coffee out like a cartoon character when you said the price! Great vid as usual 👏🏼

Oh man, that watch is beautiful. Beautiful enough to overlook any QC issues? Maybe. I've overlooked many Seiko issues for this reason, so long as the issues were easily fixable in the comfort of my own home.

buon appetito, buona fortuna e buon anno nuovo!!

I asked my Italian friend (straight from Italy, he is) about Panerai. The first thing he remarked on was the lack of quality.

I’m wearing my 126610lv at the moment and I agree, this is a lot more watch than the pam. I purchased a submersible in the past but ended up selling it due to lack of wear. I’m a bracelet guy, and this watch needs a bracelet that can complete with the sub. As an aside, I really like the new submersible bianco. A cross between this and a polar explorer 2.

Been looking at this watch for month! I was really exited about the video.. Kinda still want the watch but that wiggle is horrible! Is it a general problem or just the specific watch?

I love this watch. I also love that Italian watches are a lot like Italian cars: expensive, irrational, inexplicably crappy in some areas, and 100% totally awesome.

Bravo to your honest opinion. Please keep up the good work! For Panerai, I am disappointed and my money will go elsewhere....

For me 44mm is what I prefer otherwise I agree with your point of view. And like you the “value” is what has stopped me from adding a second Panerai to the collection. I have a 104 purchased new in 2004 and I recall it was about $4200. Couldn’t get a discount but the AD did let me pick out two additional straps. Right now I’m actually looking for another watch and have considered another Panerai but even on the pre-owned market the “value” is lacking IMO.

Awesome video, thanks

I loved this video and agreed with you on so many points, in fact all of them. Lol. I don't think it's better than my Omega SMP, definitely not $4k better. However, I like this watch in 42mm so much that it's bound to find a way into the collection at some point. But not right now. For a bit more I'll wait on the list for a sub. I've also come to terms with the fact I'm going to have more than 1 diver in my collection. Too many good options to limit myself to 1 diver. haha.

It’s still my favourite watch!!

Well I learned a couple of things. That your wrist is actually 7.09 inches. Always a good reference point and even more important, that there actually is a chef’s kiss emoji. I love this watch. I was surprised when I tried it on that it did in fact fit me. But wow that brushing and the bezel wobble. That’s a bit of a shocker.

I couldn't agree more. I have seen some high end knocks off have better quality, and Panerai wonder why no one wants them especially for this price and in the used market!? I love Panerai and this video said it all.

Good review. Thanks

Great vid The bezel has movement to allow for sand ,salt while diving and won't seize.

Two questions: what is the background music you are using?!! Love it. Next: did you notice any noise while wearing it. Like the rotor making excess noise when moving wrist? Mine does

Fabulous video btw 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

This review is spot on. I love my 42mm Submersible but there are many head scratchers for the money Panerai is pricing at. It is the polar opposite of a Sinn which is no-nonsense utilitarian approach but hey, we don’t purchase mechanical watches logically right? I wish Panerai would just give up trying to build the in-house movements (that’s not their forte), be open when they use outsourced ebauches, improve qc, and don’t take shortcuts on finishing (case and movement). This is $4-5k at most and even then, it’s a tough value prop against the likes of a Tudor Pelagos LHD.

Agreed completely. It's way too expensive. Sadly, I couldn't even pull it off. It's sad, really, because it does look great.

I totally agree about the price. When I walked into a Panerai boutique for the first time, I have no clue about the prices of this brand, I thought it's close to Breitling or something, but I was shocked about the price for a watch not that impressive! It's a cool watch and all but not for $9000 or even half this price in my opinion.

Great video. Unfortunately, you’ve shown so much detail in this review that I’ve become compelled to purchase this watch. Which I very much look forward to. Best, future Paneristi

Alignment pitchforks go down and bezels that wiggle go up 😂 it looks fantastic on the wrist.

I walked into an ad today and shockingly they actually had some Rolexs two Subs a Daytona two Yachmasters an Explorer II and Batman GMT on the jubilee aswell as a few others

I remember browsing thru TTT watch folders when I was at the redbar. I'm the Asian guy with all OP including your dream 36mm yellow. lol

I have to say, my 1980s Soviet Amphibia did not have that much play in the bezel. The movement worked just fine for 30 years and still does. Really not bad for a watch I paid DM 40 for.

Beautiful watch! I'd get one 👈🏾👊🏾

You are absolutely right, For me….

This watch with the white dial that was just released is on my list

I realized how much I like your personal take of watches you review, channels like watchfinder and Teddy Bulbasaur try to sell you a watch too much

I own the 42mm PAM01068 which comes with an interchangeable steel strap. I bought it under list and I think it’s one of the best watches that I’ve owned. I don’t care about the wiggle or the other minor details and it just feeds into the lets bash Panerai sentiment. Why would you wiggles the bezel anyway? 😀 The aesthetics and history of Panerai make it a compelling proposition and they now come with an 8 year guarantee. I just think some of these channels go overboard when they criticise these tiny and beautiful high precision instruments. Enjoy owning and wearing, and remember there is no such thing are a perfect watch. BTW.. I love your channel.

Totally can relay to auch quirks. Panerai ist cool but agree they should have better performance in regards of the quality there. Never saw such a wiggle. Happy I went with my 914. Easy watch and with that not too much things to f*** up. Good vid as usual and thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one. Did you check other models and find the same issue with the bezel?

Send it in if the bezel wiggles. They can significantly reduce the wiggle. Panerai's quality is as good as any other brand.

42mm Pam is perfection on my wrist.

This is love. ❤️

I dont have a problem with the bezel. Its perfect and i love my pam 682❤❤❤

I actually own this particular watch, and since its a tool i dont mind the wiggle. The 42mm doesnt really feel any bigger than my submariner, which is wierd. Nonetheless I love it, and I matched it up with a metal bracelet that makes it look sooooo cool :)

Tried this Pam last summer and found it interesting for all the reasons you mentioned in the review. My only complaint is the price. I feel this watch is way overpriced

Well said!

Excellent content. As a fellow Panerai owner and lover of the brand, I echo your sentiments. Panerai needs to get its shit together.

That kiss u did was super hilarious! 🤣

Love the video! Quick question though. About the polishing on the bottom and top parts of the case. How do we know that it’s from Panerai themselves? Is this something that we’ve seen on multiple submersibles? How do we know that the watch wasn’t repolished by some person who didn’t do a good job before Time Titans put it for sale? Maybe the owner had it repolished by some guy before selling it to Time Titans? Just some thoughts.

Best review :D

Is it a must your wedding ring is on most of the takes while reviewing a watch? I am glad you love your wife so much.