Dorney Park is getting a Gravity Group Shuttle Coaster!

I once went on Millennium Force in pouring rain, THAT was painful.

Maybe you could make a list of parks that are candidates for a Hyper-GTX.

Knoebels is my hometown family park. It’s different but it has a charm you cannot find possibly anywhere else. You’ll have to visit a second or third time to really appreciate it. Also, regarding Phoenix - it’s not the best woodie, but it’s certainly my favorite. It’s not the biggest or the fastest, but it has its own charm to it. Hope you have a better experience at Knoebels on you next visit!

If that was your only visit ever to Knoebels, you definitely need to get back on a better day, as the park is pure magic. The park is a circlur loop that has had an extra ring added over the years, so not sure where you got the "L" layout from. My dream coaster for the park would be a RMC terrain coaster on the hillside. Like Boulderdash on steroids. 100th anniversary is coming up in a few years, lets see what Dick and the family can come up with. Hoping we can get up there eventually in 2020 once it's safe enough for everyone to have some fun again.

What I like about rain: short lines, rain rides What I don’t like: the rides are likely to close even if there are no thunderstorms (I’ve experienced this once) Also, did you ride the haunted house at Knoebels?

Looks like a Gravity Group wooden shuttle coaster will come to this park soon. There's a leaked blueprint out there Plus, new video idea for you: since the layout of a coaster seems to be a difference maker for you at times, try 10 coasters with the best or worst layouts

My experience at Knoebels was one of the most magical I’ve had at any park. It pains me that your experience was so compromised. I hope you get back some time soon and experience a bit of the park and the Phoenix that I did. 🍻

Rain is fun unless it’s thundering and they close tall rides.

Oh nooooo, Knoeble’s is no fun in the rain! It’s all muddy with basically no inside areas 😬

You need to come back to ride Phoenix during Phoenix Phall Phun Fest during the Covered Bridge Festival. The whole mood, atmosphere and ride is completely different when riding it in the dark surrounded by hardcore fans. It's a weird layout with the camp ground and mountains all around it but there's a reason the park has been around since 1926. You just don't get that from other much modern parks. You have amazing food, solid flat rides and coasters. The owner is down to earth and you can sometimes see him talking with the guests.

From what I can tell, people mainly come to this park for a full experience, not just rides. They come for the food, the camp, and picnics.

Oh wow you must have rode Phoenix on a bad day..its in my top 10 and I prefer Phoenix over El toro..it has the best airtime I ever got on a coaster and I been on 8 rmcs lol ..go on a beautiful day and you'll love the park!

Knoebels is my home park. Compared to other amusement parks it is quite different, but ill always love it none the less.

Knoebels is my home park, and I have ridden Phoenix more than any other ride.... on some days it does run very slow and the airtime is only okay, but on most dry, warm days it does give stand-up airtime, especially on the hills on its last lap.

Knoebals is one of the finest parks I've ever been to... free parking and free admission!!! Beautiful wooded valley and forest park with a large creek through the park... good food and reasonable prices... Phoenix is a wonderful classic woody which does a lot without super height or length,,, good speed and awesome airtime... Twister is its complement being more banked turns and weaving the structure... Flying Turns is super interesting and fun but real short and an awkward layout... best bumper cars you'll ever find... having been to dozens of parks in the US, Knoebals is a real special experience

As a Knoebels regular, I can guarantee you would have had a much better experience when it's dry. The woodies run fast and airtime a-plenty, plus the park just has this beautiful small town feel too it, especially with it not having an entrance. You can literally enter and walk around without any charge and just look at the scenery and feel the happiness around you. Foods some of the best I've ever had at a theme park too. Edit: I almost forgot about flying turns! It's a great experience, they really nailed down the experience of flying. I remember it being there for years under construction because they just kept trying to get it right.

Dorney is one of my home parks, and I can never understand why people say steel force has little airtime, I find that the bunny hills always give nice ejector

I love Knoebels. It is the reason I’m watching this video right now.

When I went to Cedar Point in 2018, it was perfect because they called for rain both days but in all, it only rained for 1 hour on the second day, which I just spent at the water park.

8:01 I think it might be a floorless coaster thing because Firebird is way smoother in the back too

Sounds like you had bad luck on Phoenix cause Ive got standing airtime every ride that spans over 6 separate visits

This just reminded me of the one time I got to ride Superman at SFNE in the rain. It had started sprinkling up the lift hill, but instead of stopping the ride and having us all leave, they just let the ride run through its course. That first drop was exhilarating with the rain in your face.

From how you are describing it, you defiantly hit Pheonix and Twister on a bad day. I have been riding these coasters since I was tall enough and they really are something special. Back row on a summer night is honestly one of my favorite experiences in the coaster wold. Both of them are completely hauling with so much standing airtime on Pheonix and awesome whip on Twister. Even after traveling all over to ride coasters, I find it amazing how good these 2 woodies are.

I think someone needs to take another trip to Knoebels. Hopefully you're next trip will yield a better experience, plus you gotta check out flying turns 😉

Knoebels is my favorite park! I am a total fanboi. I would say Phoenix is the best wooden coaster. I would take it over both Lightning Rod and El Toro any day! Dorney is also a great park! Gotta love how well kept and nice it is and Talon, Hydra, and Steel Force are all fantastic!

Gotta give phoenix another chance. Not just because of the rain but because the trains looked empty in all that footage.

Pennsylvania is one of those states that I need to get back to. While I have been to several of the parks there, it has been about 9 years, so that leaves a lot of new coasters to ride (2 at Waldameer, 2 at Kennywod, 4 at Knoebels, 4 at Hershey, possibly 1 at Dorney if the rumors are true, and then the parks I haven't been to like Lakemont, DelGrosso's, Idlewild and Dutch Wonderland). -Gary

I only live about 5 hours away. I almost went to Knoebels last year but I'm thinking I'll finally do it next year along with Dorney & Hershey Park. The rain from your car looked so sick for some reason. Another fantastic video

Great video as always. Never been to either park. Hopefully that will change in 2021!

Was supposed to be hitting up both of these parks this year. We'll see how it goes. Was especially looking forward to Knoebels.

You gotta remember that Knoebels is a family park. They may not want to invest on really big attractions like Cedar Fair does. It's a very unique park hidden in the woods with some classic rides like the carousels and also serves as a camping/cabin resort. Dorney Park though neglected on high is still a very decent park. Great coasters, great rides, some of which are old too since it is a classic trolley park. Yes many of the rides are hand me downs, and the layout is weird since Cedar Fair bought it, but overall the park was able to grow and adapt considering it had some hard times in the 80's.

Hallow fun at Knoebels in 2018 was awesome, even though some rides closed because of rain. It was cold and pouring, meaning Phoenix and twister were HAULING so fast, the ejector on twister was insane and the rain stung so much. But it was running so fast! Last ride on Phoenix pitch black in the rain was unbelievable, i was getting ejector on everything, and it was the only time on a coaster I legitimately feared for my life lol. On the double up and double down on the second part of the layout, the ride slowed, and then FLEW down the double down, and the airtime was actually sketchy! When the ride was over, the train FLEW through the brakes into the station. WOW. One of the best coaster experiences of my life.

I guess you could say it turned into, *STORMY PARK* I'll see myself out

When you return to Knoebels, dedicate at least one full day, if not more. Don't underestimate how much there is to do, there's a reason it's my personal favorite park I've been to. Some recommendations: -Ride the Flyers. They’re next to Flying turns and looper. This is mandatory, and are probably one of the top 5 rides in the park as long as the guy operating the ride doesn’t slow it down too too much. -Ride the haunted manor, very charming haunted house that's a blast to ride. -Ride the skooters (bumper cars). They’re like mini tanks, you get some serious bumps out of those. Among the very best bumper cars in the world. -The train and Skyride are also both great, and Kosmo's Curve is actually better than you probably expect. -Eat the 5 for $5.75 pierogis sautéed in butter and onion. They’re right next to the Oasis restaurant, near Power Surge. All the food here is good, but that’s the best thing in the park (best theme park food I've personally had). There are other pierogis in the park, but they’re nowhere near as heavenly. -Ride downdraft too, it's a very unique and intense flat ride. -Get a Twister front seat night ride. Hands down the best way to ride that thing. -Phoenix is best in rows 1, 3, and 12. Do give it re-rides, since when it's running well it does give stand up airtime in the 2nd half. -I haven’t done them yet, but the antique car ride under Phoenix looks cool. -Take a spin on Cosmotron, fun little indoor himilaya

Rain experiences are something else. A visit to Magic Mountain last December really took the cake; crazanity and twisted colossus. Crazanity was frankly hilarious because the rain direction kept changing and you wouldn’t get pelted depending on where you were in the rotation.

I want that feeling of running through the rain to take shelter or get on your favorite coaster in the middle of the day.

Growing up in NEPA I have so many amazing memories of all these parks, I've been to them many times, yeah welcome to a park In a valley, it always rains lol

Proud of my hometown park, so many childhood memories. Please give it another shot.

LOVE Knobels. One of my all time fave places

Knoebels is one of my home parks, and after many visits I have found it to be a very beautiful, classic small park. Their food is great, and the setting is just gorgeous! I know you said you didn't like Phoenix or Twister very much, but personally I found that Phoenix has some insane out of your seat airtime, so much so that with my long legs, I always end up hitting my knees on the train, especially those last few bunny hills. Those things always make me genuinely scared I am going to fly out, because of those buzz bars. And Twister, while the airtime isn't very good, I found the insane laterals and unique layout to be really fun! I think I actually like Twister more than Phoenix haha. The other thing I love about both rides is how they are just butter smooth. It is so impressive, especially since Phoenix is so old and Twister was built in house!

In 2016, my family was on a coaster trip, and on our drive between Hershey and SFNE, we passed by Dorney. We didn't plan it, but I was dropped off for a few hours to check out the park. Of course Talon was closed that day. I also had a rough front row ride on Hydra. Possessed and Steel Force were alright, and Stinger and Thunderhawk kinda sucked. I actually think Demon Drop was my favorite ride in the park. One day I'll go back and finally ride Talon.

" Rally the troops Betty, We going coaster ridin'" LOLOL

I go to knobles every year and they took forever to finish building the trackelss coaster, so when it opened up I was so excited to ride it

Love the my experience vidz if u have time can u put these in a playlist so I can still attend parks through the channel

Dorney submitted plans for a Gravity Group shuttle coaster, but then withdrew them, most likely a delay due to COVID but definitely exciting! However in the plans they drew up, Possessed is not shown in the park.

I feel like that area of the Knoebels, Hershey & Dorney part of Pennsylvania always gets rain. When I went to Hershey in May of 2017, it was raining. They didn't close the park but they closed some of the Coasters like Skyrush so we couldn't ride Skyrush. I went back to Hershey in July of 2018 and it was a very hot day the day we went. We did ride Skyrush. I've also been to Dorney. When I went in June of 2018, there was some showers and it was mostly overcast clouds. Plus I've also heard that year about a flooding at both Hershey and Knoebels that had to close both parks for several weeks

I cant wait for a Holiday World version of this, Holiday world is the best park I have been to even thought they only have 5 coasters but they are by far better than alot of six flags and cedar fair park coasters

I went on Colossus at Thorpe Park while it was hailing and despite the ride being painful at the best of times,we were stuck outside the station for a good 2 minutes while the other train was loading...

My favorite ride on any coaster I’ve ever had is a Lightning Rod night ride in the rain. Holy shit was that amazing. Airtime was astounding and because it was the end of the day so it was hauling! The rain felt like air soft bullets but it was worth every painful bit of it. I believe it was in the back too, which only added to the intensity. What I’d pay to get that again!!

Knoebels is my home park, go every year at least once. There may be slight bias here, but there is so much more magic to Knoebels than what you unfortunately experienced. It’s definitely not the best park for coasters, but it’s a great family experience with lots of other great rides for thrill seekers. As other people mentioned, Phoenix was just having a bad day. Far and away my favorite woodie. There’s also a bunch of really amazing things about the park that you missed out on! Mainly the carrousel and the food. It is odd that there is no main gate, but I think that adds to the character of the park. Knoebels is a free admission park, and I think a gate takes that away from the park. I think Knoebels has a lot of potential to become a better park for coaster enthusiasts, but that might detract from everything else it has going for it. I feel another visit is in order haha.

I've had many a rainy day at Knoebel's and they can be really fun. We've definitely gotten a lot of crazy rainstorms in PA the past few summers. It's not a coaster, but if you're coming back here to do Flying Turns this year, hit up the Haunted House ride while you're there. It's worth it.

Had a similar rainy experience at Kings Island the weekend of Vortex closing. Rained hard enough to be painful on rides the first two hours or so, but after that it wasn't bad. I don't remember anything being closed due to rain though and lines were almost nonexistent (apart from Flight of Fear for obvious reasons) so it was great!

6:13 i miss lazer so much 😢 it never had a line.

Haven't been to Dorney in decades. Last time I was there, it wasn't yet a Cedar Fair entity. We did ride the short-lived Hercules wooden coaster. Yes, it was rough... but we all enjoyed it anyway.

AWESOME

My fellow Coaster Enthusiast friend and I did the same journey but without the rain. I was really bummed out when I realized we missed a credit by not riding Black Diamond Mining Company at Knoebels!!! I was literally not in my seat the entire time on Phoenix, so I will disagree with you on that one. Dorney Park was just ok.....Steel Force was the stand out but everything else was just kinda blahhhh in my opinion! Got a really sweet hat at Dorney and the Mardi Gras parade/festival was definitely the best part of our adventure. We did Six Flags NJ, Hershey Park, Knoebels, Dorney Park then back to Six Flags NJ in 4 days....Epic Journey! Love your content, keep em coming!!!

Hey my two home parks!

When you go back, Knoebels is absolutely a full park day! There's so much more than the L shape you may know as of now. There's so much packed into the park, it's more like a square actually! A lot to do there besides roller coasters including the endless food stands that are all good! That park is like an endless fairground! And you have to try out the game Fascination next time! Once you're there for a while, you'll understand the charm!

Dorney is surprisingly enough one of my most anticipated parks. When I first started researching parks and coasters to get into, Dorney was the first one to stand out to me. I'm hoping that new woodie comes soon. As for Knoebels, it's starting to catch my attention slowly. I don't know what kind of stuff they're working with here, but if a brand new coaster is somewhere in its future, a raptor is the best choice.

I agree with you on Hydra, it is rougher in the front. I rode this twice, once in the front and once in the 2nd row. It was rough in the front and enjoyable in the 2nd

I found that riding in the front of Phoenix gives you more airtime.

I was saving Knoebels for this year, but last year, I was able to go to Dorney Park. It was a beautiful day and a Saturday, so it was packed. Still, I got plenty of rides in. Hydra was riding very smooth that day, but it sounds like it can be temperamental. Steel Force gave me very slight airtime on those bunny hills. Nothing noteworthy at all, but better than Mamba's bunny hills, which are totally nothing all the time. Demon Drop is a very fun ride: kind of a drop tower, kind of a coaster. The waterpark is excellent!

When Your Favorite weather is Rain 🌧...

I remember that storm very well, my wife and I were trying to start our honeymoon when all of the airports on the east coast basically redirected all flights else where. We eventually did make it to Malta, but damn, that was a hell of a storm.

There was a rumor of a wooden shuttle gravity group for Dorney park over the weekend, but the meeting was withdrawn likely due to corona virus and cedar fair delaying investments. Knobels I think would be a great place for a couple of coasters: My top 5 picks 1.Custom Layout Rmc Raptor or Custom layout GCI or Rmc wooden coaster 2.Chance hyper gtx 3.Premier rides skyrocket 2 like Tigris or Tempesto 4.Spinning coaster by either zamperla or Maurer 5.New generation vekoma family suspended coaster like dragonflier at Dollywood

definitely give Kozmo’s Kurves a shot next time you’re there, it actually gives some legendary pops of air haha

The coasters at Knoebels aren't amazing, but this is one of the few parks where you go for the park, not the rides. It's has a very unique atmosphere and just feels nostalgic, as well as being in a beautiful area. Hopefully you check it out again soon, especially when Flying Turns opens.

Dorney is a great pit stop for me going to Hershey Park from NJ. It doesn’t take long to ride everything there, and the coasters are decent. Talon still manages to be my favorite b&m invert after riding 12. Probably will change after getting to BGT though

I like looking at Park maps, especially the ones that are available at Knoebels. You know, so you don't spend an hour looking for a shop.

Sometimes riding coasters in the rain is fun. I remember riding Rolling Thunder at SFGAdventure in the rain and I don't t think I ever laughed so much on a roller coaster before, was so fun.

i think they are putting a coaster because they removed stinger and are now removing something else... and because great adventure and hershey got something for 2020 and american dream mall opened

Twister is amazing.

Talon was my first coaster EVER as a kid. So much nostalgia 🥺 Oh, and the lack of attendance wasn’t because of the weather... it’s always that dead anymore 🤷🏼‍♀️

After their rumored Gravity Group woodie, I could see either a new family coaster (RES Roller Ball, Gerstlauer Family, etc.) or a small B&M dive (Emperor was $11M), giving them a standout B&M trio.

So let me tell you about my experience with a Chance Hyper GTX. When KY kingdom reopened I worked for the local Amazon, and only Amazon employees and ACE members were allowed in the first day of opening. I was one of the first 500 riders on Lightning run, and it was my first encounter with those awful restraints. They dont work for tall people. I had dents in my shins after riding, I couldnt enjoy the ride at all because it felt like my shins were trying to break. After I got off the ride, there was an old guy asking people how they liked it. I laid into him about the restraints, saying if you're gonna have unnecessary shin bars you need a tester seat or a sign that says "if over 6'3 this is gonna suck". Turns out that old guy was Ed Hart, and when I came back later in the summer to relax in the waterpark BOTH of my suggestions had been implemented. Albeit a much more professional sounding warning sign.

If you ever make it back out to Knoebbels you might also want to check out Lakemont Park in Altoona. They have the world's oldest operating coaster, Leap the Dips. They have a few other vintage 60's woodies. I hear Kennywood is worth visiting too.

You need to come on a really hot day when there has been just a bit of rain, Phoenix feels legit dangerous then.

I feel bad for you once I was at six flags great America in Illinois and it was 19° the whole time❄️

Well now it’s almost confirmed that dorney is getting a coaster for 2021 and it seems like a great addition

I live in Florida and is originally from Pennsylvania. I've been to Knoeble's in 2010, 2013, 2015, and 2016. It is a family owned and operated park by the Knoeble's family. An RMC raptor here isn't far fetched, but I highly doubt a B&M will go there. As for Dorney, a GCI would be a stupid fit there. I used to work as an operator at Hersheypark and you'll be surprised how many guests pass up Dorney of Hershey. I can see an RMC or even a Gravity Group woodie go here. It is would fill in their modern woodie gap in their line up. I was at Dorney in 2013 and 2014 and clinched the park in the process (yes I rode Stinger and was a pile of forceless Vekoma rubbish). Definitely is stale and could use a new coaster.

Are you kidding? I got some of the best floater of my life on Steel Force back in September. It was a front row ride with a lot of room at like 10:30 at night. Even the drop off the midcourse had decent airtime. True the hills at the end didn’t have the ejector that I heard Magnum has, but still. And Possessed is hella intense in the back. Definitely recommend. Dorney holds a special place in my heart.

So I have pretty much grown up at Knoebles. Its free admission and free parking so it’s awesome. You will totally have to go when its not raining, and there is a lot more to that park that just coasters and an L shape. Flying Turns is great too.

Next time you go to knoebels you should check out the knoebels haunted mansion if you have time, its really great dark ride. Also i think you would like Phoenix better on a dry day. I rode 7 times on a warm sunny day and got standing airtime in the back. I hope your visit this year will be better.

i was just saying to myself i wonder when he would post about dorney park. love these videos man

So I had my first experience on steel force today, and out of the three different ride I had, my air times varied greatly. My first ride, I was constantly out of my seat with every crest of a hill. It kinda sucks how air time is such a gamble.

Rode steel force 14 times my last trip there. Absolute banger of a ride.

Used to go to Knoebels for a weekend every summer when i was a kid. I had 7 stitches right under my nose (from falling off a truck). As we were boarding the train to Phoenix, the sky's opened up. I couldnt really get the stitches wet, so i held my hat over my face. It was POURING and I couldnt see anything. It was still fun lol

I go to dorney at least once a year (i live close but not too close where i go so often) and it is always dead, One trip in 2013 was pretty packed but every day since then has been super slow and I never wait more than 5 minutes for anything, attendance is for sure an issue and its a shame, hopefully the new coaster rumored will boost attendance

You should go back to Dorney because they are finally getting a coaster!

I live in the area, and the weather was just trash during that time. The Susquehanna River went over flood stage, and at one point, the area around Skyrush at Hersheypark was inundated with mud.

Twister has good laterals good pops of airtime and good positive gs

The bumper cars at knoebles are ELITE

I have been to Knoebels once every year since I was young, and I never remember flying turns being open once

I really hope you get some better weather for your next trip to Knoebels so you can really enjoy that park for what it is.

Funny how the one year you did your east coast trip, we got hammered with rain. 2019 was so dry, you'd probably have no days at all be rained out.

Wish you got the chance to ride Hercules at Dorney back in the day. That was one crazy ride. Worth looking up if you get the chance.

Really sad you didn’t go on the bumper cars or flyers. The food is also incredible as is fascination. Phoenix and twister are amazing coasters but just like most woodies, they aren’t as good with empty trains. Definitely didn’t get the full Knoebels experience

You missed one of the largest merch shops. It's directly across from Phoenix. Map in video marked "Chalet."

Looking at your footage from Knoebels, damn were the woodies running slow. You'll have a better experience next time. Also everytime you bring Hydra up, I'm obligated to let off some steam from my growing up going to Dorney - I absolutely hate B&M floorless and Hydra is just unbearable