What did you guys think of diablo 4? Btw, did mention they should increase storage space and the idea of shared storage between characters. Just maybe not infinite storage. Definitely expected more from Season 1 but I just enjoy playing the game and talking to chat

The problem with games being a cash grab is that while the price increases, the quality DECREASES

He has a life size statue of Iron Man. Did you expect him to have a good take?

"I love diablo!.....................so heres all these promos and merch I'm doing"

Some real bad generalizations regarding every game being a cash grab. Some exist soley to make cash while others focus heavily on the gameplay experience. There is a scale where a game falls any where inbetween. When someone complains something is a cash grab, they aren't saying there is no intention to make money, they are saying that they focused too heavily on making money and not enough on the the game being great.

Stash space argument is mind boggling

I’m pretty sure that Elden Ring has no cash shop. Larian Studios doesn’t implement cash shops either.

There is a huge difference between a normal game and a crash grab game. There is a world of difference between developers and artists and the marketing department and the financial department. One tries to make a good game, the other tries to maximazie profits. So no, not every game is a cash grab. They do try to make a profit understanably but it's not the same thing as a cash grab. Don't forget that Shroud is a millionaire and his experiance and value of money is different than most of us.

Lol rich guy isn’t worried about cash. Imagine that.

There’s a pretty big difference between Tarkov and Diablo IV I’d say

Cashgrab is quite literally minimal effort / scam in order to essentially "take the money out of your pocket". It is not CREATING A PRODUCT TO SELL FOR PROFIT. Holy shit I can't stand people that try to warp the definition of words like these. They're so dumb.

the cope is so deep here

Saying POE is a cash grab if this game is a cash grab is wild, you’re lost in the sauce and the sauce is as bland as water

personally i was getting more enjoyment out of my d3 seasonal

imagine needing 500 hours to know this game was unfinished on launch, but got to get that twitch bag and be a yes man.

I think you are generalizing "every game is a cash grab" by that I mean yes businesses have to do what's in their best interest for profits, but some businesses do that while still being fair to their player base. Diablo is a good game but it is way more monetized than POE. That's just a fact. You can put them both in the same bracket of "for profit" but some companies also fall into the "fair for players" also. Don't forget that Shroud, especially when you consider those in less fortunate financial situation

So every game is a cash grab, but this game is not a cash grab lol wut

Bro said a larger stash would hurt build crafting...make it make sense. Maybe it'll hurt the casual player who cannot understand it. A bigger stash encourages you to collect loot, revisit your spoils, it allows players to become acquatinted with their favorite gear and stats, grow attached to their characters and builds and reminisce about how they got it. Limiting the stash pigeonholes your playstyles and does not incentivize us to branch out, we must stay committed to the path we chose or have to start builds over again.What you said about build crafting still applies if the stash is bigger, you still have choices, you still can be intentional, it's just optional, which I thought the devs wanted. Comparing it to Tarkov is a big misrepresentation because the inventories are meant to accomplish different things.

Shroud: D4 is not a cash grab. Shroud: D4 themed giveaway

This game is not a cash grab... It's a super major cash grab compared to POE.

I genuinely did not expect shroud to have such a bad take on d4

there is no such thing as a stash space game, people will make mules if necessary

They should implement what they did in Diablo 3 to Diablo 4 with builds... let us have the option of saving a build, so when we try something new, we can revert back to the original build

Big L take, feels like a blizzard shill now because he clearly thinks gaming is only about money now lolol

its not a review its rambling

PoE is free... This game is 70 dollars......

Lets be honest Diablo4 is going to be compared to POE forever now. It's the main competitor out there. POE has basically endless stash tabs if you want to buy them. Nothing wrong with unlimited amount of stash tabs!

how is this a review video? I'm 6 minutes in and there's still barely any "review" of the game

this "review" is a money grab but every review is a money grab so its not a money grab

Oh boy, Shroud being serious?

why is the title "my review" its just stream clips

This is why you never trust a content creator, even as one as scummy as Shroud. Remember he made hundreds of thousands off of gifted subs for twitch drops.

hold on, every game isnt a cash grab. hades, risk of rain, project zomboid, yakuza, terraria, dark souls, baldurs gate, the witcher, hell divers i could go on all day

"casual player" and "alt" do not overlap. If you have an alt and are worried about equipment swapping you are not casual you are hardcore

Artists create art. Blizzard make cash grabs disguised as art.

-Shroud “am I the only one when I find a piece of hair in my food I just take it out and eat the food?”

My dude played 500 hours of D4 and his honest review is that he may or may not like the stash. Be sure to subscribe.

Games that are fun sell well. It's that simple. Diablo 4 has lost sight of that.

“I believe diablo isn’t a cash grab” lol😂 shroud you a clown for this one

He is getting paid by blizzard isn't he.

2:32 "part of the game should be considering what you should keep and what not". That's your opinion. And in my opinion you could not be more wrong. I play the game, want to kill mobs, collect loot. I want to experiment with builds, skills, make new alts, try new things, and of course become more powerful as I go along which is what an RPG is all about (with scaling brought over from WoW I suppose this one is dead in the water, but we digress). The LAST thing I want to do is play inventory tetris. It is a looting game. Not an inventory management simulator. Town stash should be almost limitless. I never should have to concern myself with gear storage and inventory management while I am out there killing mobs. I never should have to make mules to store gear. I should never have to load maxroll, run excel sheets or consult guides for every bit of item I cannot store. I have done enough of this with D2, D3 and D2R. You limit my stash, I do not buy your game.

dude gets paid by blizzard he isnt going to poke the bear

It's not a cash grab it's a time sink hours of grinding just to have a patch wipe most of our work.

if shroud says a game is good it usually sucks. if shroud gets paid to advertise a game, it usually sucks. always a great indicator.

"If the game made by greedy bastards with shitty monitesation practices is made as a cashgrab, than every game is a cashgrab" - Shroud really took a dive....

"Every game is a cash grab" "This game is not a cash grab" Have you heard of a thing called LOGIC?

Shroud back at it again with the absolute surface level room temperature IQ takes.

36 sec. and paused he seems to have no idea what a cashgrab is atleast 70 euros for a game + microtransactions to look fancy (which are fcking expensive aswell) + Battlepass + Seasons.... thats a cashgrab and thats not ok and there are no excuses

I enjoyed the game until the patch with the following complaints. Initially I found stash space, deaths resulting from disconnects, the console player damage nerf and lack of target farming the most disappointing aspects of the game. I also felt somewhat punished by the developers for being a solo player, doubly so on console. I played hardcore at launch on Necro and reached level 100 during the pre-season. I was very excited for season one until the patch hit. Following the patch my interest in the title gradually fell to nothing. I have not played in several days and am very disappointed in the title in general. One word to describe the title would be disappointed. I thought there was a lot of potential and there may still be albeit, I will not know because I have lost all interest in the game. I want it to be a great title I just dont think it is right now. It needs a lot of work to be worth the time investment.

Disagree massively with your sentiment about Diablo not being a "cash grab". Youre a really smart guy from what ive gathered so idk if youre pretending or whats going on. - Yes, every game is a "cash grab" but there are massively different levels. When blizzard first started, yes they wanted to make money, but they were passionate about making games and the same people who owned the company were also the devs. They were a small passionate group, in control of everything themselves. Morals mattered, creating their art so to speak mattered. The biggest difference from then to now is that Blizzard now is a publicly traded company. Their MAIN purpose is to make revenue, it is to make the shareholders happy, no matter what. If they somehow could get away with making an absolute shit game, if that was what maximized their profits, they would. The chain of command is also massively different. The people who have the final say dont work on the game. Their minds are only on profit. There is a massive disconnect between the different parts of the company. All this makes it really hard for the devs who actually care to make the game they want. If it turns into a good game thats fine, but its profit first. Making people addicted first. Making people feel fomo first. Its pushing out content before its ready because they need to meet deadlines first. Its pushing out a game thats not ready because they need to meet deadlines first. Its to withhold vital content (like possibly stashtabs) because you can sell it later instead. The stash space is absolute dogshit. In 30 hours I have filled most of my stash. My 1 level 78 character is hogging all of it. The stash space would be fine for 1 character, it is not fine if you want to make several.

Bro is trying to argue about cash grabs when he acquired THOUSANDS of extra subs with the whole "gift subs for mount" promotion. I WONDER WHY THIS DUDE IS DEFENDING THE GAME LMAO. He made a killing off of this scummy marketing ploy. Why couldn't they do normal twitch drops like everyone else? Wonder how much blizzard paid him to make this video.

Soon as he said " its not a cash grab" I paused his shilling for the big guy video and went into the comments. Yea everyone else is also calling out your b. S.

Pretty sure anyone who played the beta and saw the static world and shoed in mmorpg elements knew what was coming. You will not be allowed to feel OP in diablo 4 for long its going to always balance the fun out of your character.

dude got carried period. done. Dont take anything he says serious. Guy cheats in shooters and gets carried in MMOs/ARPGs Edit: I would also love to see how many downvotes this vid got compared to up. Just curious.

Click bait. I was expecting an actual review, not a collection of clips.

Season 1 came out and I don’t care 😅

There is as always such a big difference between the hardcore players and casual players. I play pretty regularly but I only managed to get to lvl 90 with my barb before the season started and it was fun to improve the character every once in a while. Now with season 1 with my 2nd character I feel much more bored, because I already know, when I get to WT3 and WT4 I essentially have to replace my complete gear again. Btw I am way ahead in my small gamer friend group. 2 didn't even finish the story up to season 1. Whereas other had multiple characters to lvl 100. SO it is clear, that you are bored by then. I also played PoE and yes, the endgame is WAY better in PoE. Tbh D4 doesn't have an endgame. Uber-Lilith is very cheap and doesn't even drop anything. Huge dissapointment there. Long story short: D4 is not a bad game for casuals, hardcore player are bored very fast. I very much look forward to PoE2.

Shroud you’re a millionaire it’s different to us that don’t have much.

that's a review?

Poe is f2p, d4 is a $70 alfa

Paid creator lol

So a guy who is an undeserved millionaire and lost touch with reality thinks that 70$ (or 100$) is cheap. BIG surprise.

Looks like Shroud got paid enough money.

Diablo costs fking 70$ and PoE is free

PoE doesn't cost 70 bucks to play bro. These rich gamer guys are just living in another universe that's it.

Anyone else waiting for Path Of Exhile 2 ?

how can anyone say this guy is not paid to make this vid💀💀💀💀💀

So you contradicted yourself >Every game is a cash grab >I don’t think this game is a cash grab

26 seconds in I hear, this game is a "cash grab" then in under 10 seconds, 9 to be exact, same person says "I don't think this game is cash grab". My brain hurts when that type of psychology is used to assist in cash grabbing.

Late to the party - 25+ hours in, and having a blast.

Well certainly nowadays SOME games are cash grabs. There are actually game devs though that are interested in making a fun game that matches their vision, and the money is tertiary. Video games can be art.

Miss when it was about making a good game and selling the game for what it’s worth. Absolutely L take from shroud

if you are here for good take or review about an ARPG from shroud, you're in the wrong fucking block

When he said he liked the stash space I immediately stopped watching and gave him a dislike. What a troll.

I think the game launch relatively well imo. I think the game is fun i just think that there needs to be more things for player to do in endgame, but i know theyre adding stuff in the future so im excited

This video made me like shroud. the "qwuality🤓" isn't decreasing because your stash isnt 1 billion slots, Its just more challenging that way, and I think that makes it way better

Cutting to the full screen Webcam view wasn't needed. Just keep the gameplay clip on instead of just 4 seconds of something. Made this really hard to tell what the game is like

This video is being disliked so hard and there's a damn good reason for it.

Oh wow I forgot Shroud was even alive. Haven't seen this dude in years!

HUHHH?????? Everygame is a crash grab, but this game isnt cash grab ?????

Shroud, you do know that the stash isn't a game on its own right? It was a downright bad coding from the devs which heavily limits the number of stashes that we can use. Just stick to FPS games cause some of those takes rivals quin69.

How much did Blizzard pay you ?

I would say 40 hours u got ur $ s worth... 500 hours.. u should LOVE this game! Try going outside.... Lol

click bait title

The title says diablo 4 review and then it's just 3 people talking at the same time about a stash tab

This is a good game. People are spoiled and shortsighted.

if this is a cash grab i dont know what cod is lmao

Casual here: is there any cost on vessels of hatred? Why is everyone upset?

D4 was the biggest video game disappointment in the last decade. The difference in quality between D4 and its rivals (PoE, Grim Dawn, and especially Last Epoch) is simply HUGE. So embarrassing for Blizzard.

I dont pay 90$ to play a game with 1/100th the content for PoE nor do I pay for seasonal passes. His argument is terrible from that logic because making money does not mean its a cash grab. The fact that his argument is just other games have monetization isnt an argument because none of them are as egregious as this one. Lack of end game content, limited itemization, boring early game, lack of build diversity the list goes on. If they took literally ANYTHING away from PoE Diablo would have had more diversity and been sustainable but it is not. And their patches they promised have been mediocre. Its fine to enjoy something you like but to blindly say its good just because you like it is dishonest and wrong.

Stash space is fine for 1 character... if u start another one it's gg "I guess I deleted all of my gg gear and aspects" 😌

Making money can’t just be the case. There’s not a Diablo 4, because people love giving their money away. The previous 3 games were ENTERTAINING to PLAY and continue to have high REPLAY value.

where do they announce winner?

the stash space argument does not make much sense, it is a looter. there will be tons of loot, comparing it to tarkov is kinda dumb. while i agree that infinite stash space is not the right way, the ammount we have is too little for a looter.

business is not a cash grab. robbery is a cashgrab... business is business...

Blud just yappin about how he likes how the stash is now.

What makes it a cash grab is releasing an unpolished piece of shit while having a no refund policy if you play more than 2hours. There is absolutely no way for anyone to gauge whether or not the game is good in 2hours, in fact the start of the game is so time gated that you're gonna spend more of that 2h listening to NPC dialogues than you will playing your character.

I thought this was a review not stream footage pretending to be a review

I like shroud, but holy shit his takes in this video is out of this world. What was he smoking? Holy shit...

You played 500 hours, i refunded after 5 mins when i realized i couldnt zoom out from that ridiculous POV