I'm glad you decided to film this. Because people love to tiptoe around this subject and it's very unhelpful for the group of girls that do not have a "great" experience. Didn't necessarily happen to me, but I have seen this happen to others and you discussed it in a very unproblematic/respectful way!!! xoxo

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I've worked at SDSU since 1999. There are some sororities on campus, that I'll leave nameless, where the members all look like carbon copies and I know what you're talking about when you mention they're looking for a "certain look." It has always made me wonder about diversity within the Greek system.

This happens to a lot more girls than you think. This happened to me too and it sucks. I'm glad a video about sdsu rush was finally made. I wish you the best!

You're so positive! Glad this didn't get you down because it shouldn't! (: I go to a local college and still live at home so I don't get to live in a dorm or even have sororities at my school. I used to be upset about it and wish I could've had that college experience, but I truly am so thankful for how my first two years of college have gone! Everything happens for a reason! (: Not being in a sorority will provide you with something else beneficial for you!! Stay positive girly 💛

Love it, someone who finally used quotes around “mutual selection”!

i feel this video 10000% i'm a freshman at sdsu and i went through recruitment too. i ended up dropping on tuesday when i got my schedule because i didn't want to pref the houses i ended up with and honestly i'm glad i did. my roommate actually ended up getting a bid from her top house and the other roommate joined a house through continuous open bidding so i get what it feels like when you're the one kinda left out. if you ever wanna rant more about it or talk i'm down though lol :))

This was really interesting! I graduated last year from State but majored in engineering so I had absolutely no idea how any part of Greek life worked. Its a different world that I enjoyed getting a glimpse into. I hope you really enjoy your time at state, you have the right attitude for sure and that's awesome how much you've learned already from the time you've been there. Youve got a very mature take on things

I have never experienced rush but wow, I feel like this is a driving force for self-identity​ issues and depression in young girls. Idk, it just seems like it would tear some girls apart. I am glad you were such a good sport!

This just made me feel so much better. I’m a freshman at the university of oklahoma and I went through rush like two months ago. I had an okay experience but I definitely didn’t keep an open mind because I had one house that I followed on Instagram and I just knew that was the one. Then comes bid day and I was placed into that house and basically I hated it from day one. Now two months later, I’m withdrawing and I’ll have to wait until next fall if I want to rush again. This is such an accurate representation of what rush is like so I’m basically in your situation and I may be rushing again next fall like you but for now, I’m just kinda chilling on the sidelines while the houses I really loved are having fun events with their members and things like that. So anyway, thank you so much for this

I was a Rho Gam my senior year at SDSU and I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out as hoped for you. The system that everyone talks about from my understanding is a computer program that takes the PMNs preferences and each of the sorority preferences and have to run the listings comparing the pmn's to the sorority but also all the sorority preferencing for each girl against the other sororities. It should also be a different experience if you do rush again later because, not only will you be even better prepared, but I'm pretty sure each sorority has a certain number of bids that they have to give out to girls who are sophomores or older so that can be helpful in getting your preferred chapter!

I'm actually surprised you stuck it out and went with the flow. I had a horrible time with recruitment so I withdrew. I love your attitude💕

SDSU is one of my top choices for next year, thank you so much for making this! I’ve been looking at sororities and I’m glad I know now what to expect

Girl YES!!! I rushed as well ended up in a sorority and ended up dropping the first semester. It just wasn’t for me and the process was CRAZY! Btw Go Aztecs! So happy I came across your channel!!!

loved your video, you must be very good at presenting - everything was clear and honest, way to go!

Hey girl! I know exactly what you are going through, I went through recruitment as a freshman at state and ended up dropping because I had expectations going into it that just weren't the reality. However, I HIGHLY recommend trying it again as a sophomore! I did, and I had a way better experience-it was so much less stressful and I knew what to expect this time around! I am now it a chapter that I absolutely love, and I don't feel as though I missed out at all from being in a sorority freshmen year

I'm so glad that you shared your experience! I'm at UCSD and I went through recruitment as a second year up until bid day too, except I suicided because I was in a similar situation to yours. I got a call the morning of saying I didn't get a bid and shouldn't show up and it was so so crushing because I had my heart set on the one and it didn't work out for me. I don't regret going through because I do think that it was a really great experience and I still met a lot of really great people. After taking this last quarter to reflect, I realize that I still really want to have that kind of support system and involvement on campus so I'm trying to go through informal recruitment in the winter.

Just at 3:30 you’ve already hit MAJOR points that no one else seems to mention😂 I rushed this fall and you really get it right and verbalize it well

I rushed sophomore year for the first time & joined a sorority that wasn't "top" at state but I had an open mind and did feel like I belonged there. I was initiated and everything. I honestly really liked the girls in the house BUT the stereotypes, superficiality, putting other houses down, and overall doucheyness of the Greek community at SDSU is so prevalent it was impossible to ignore, so I dropped. I think as a freshman/sophomore you want to find your calling and place where you fit in or feel like you belong and identify with because everything is new and you feel so small on such a big and populated campus and new city for some people and yeah some people find that in Greek Life (good for you) but the majority of kids don't. Not everyone on campus is a Greek, though it may seem like the letters are everywhere and in your face 24/7. There are so many other things to join that will change your life for the better on campus. Branch out, meet new people, experience things that don't sound interesting to you, and you'll fall into place. I can't stress how important it is to start making good connections now as opposed to later. Also don't let other people's opinions change who you are and what you stand for. It's easy to get lost in the storm of emotions and opinions on college campuses. Good luck Macy! :)

I just graduated from SDSU May 2018 and the greek life on campus was a bit of a problem. When I got there I debated about joining a frat not because I was looking for brotherhood of camaraderie but because on campus there is some serious elitism surrounding the houses. You can't go to parties, you can't go to certain events, and the frats and sororities look down on anyone not a member of one of the houses. It sucks because it was different before I had gone into the military and was expecting it to be as cool as it use to be.

Hey girl. I’m also an aspiring KZfaqr and I really enjoyed this video. A lot of my best friends go to SDSU, all beautiful kind girls, but they also had so much trouble with rush. Rushing at SDSU is rush on steroids, it seems almost impossible. I’m glad that you are so positive about reflecting on this experience. Anyways love your channel!

This is the most accurate sorority recruitment advice video on youtube

Girl, I just found your video in my recommended section, and I haven't been able to find a single video similar to my sorority rush experience until this one! Everything seemed to be going really well for me, until the morning of preference day when I my rho gam called and told me that I got heavily released, which meant that I was dropped from all of the houses. I completely agree about being able to tell that some chapters want a specific look. My school is known to have a lot of sororities that want a specific look, and after going through, I think it was at least 80% of the chapters unfortunately. I had multiple houses I liked, I was invited back, each time I enjoyed the conversations. I had some sororities I didn't, but I kept having to go back to, and then suddenly, I was dropped completely. I really want to meet more people, and there were so many girls that I want to be friends with, but now I don't know their names, or any way to contact them. I feel like I been more obsessed with the idea of joining a sorority, since the opportunity of doing so has been taken away from me. Anyway, just rambling now, but I feel you girl!

Yessss this happened to me too. Exact same situation. I dropped the sorority that gave me a bid and joined the sorority I loved my sophomore year. But in all honesty, I had grown a lot since freshman year and sorority life was not everything I had imagined for that year where I wasn't in it. The girls were great but I already had a few close friends and it became more of an obligation than something I loved. Just something to consider when you think about rushing next year!

I am in greek life at the University of Arizona and we also had 1600 girls rushing 12 houses which also is impossible for everyone to get into a house, I did get into a sorority but many of my friends dropped and the rush process was so much harder than I thought it was gonna be so I'm glad you made this video to show that being in a sorority isn't everything and a lot of people who rush end up dropping

I rushed as a junior and got dropped from every house but my bottom two. It was absolutely horrible. I’m really social and never had a hard time making friends! It was devastating. Thank you so much for making this video.

This is was the most informational video I've ever watched

This same thing happened to me during recruitment and I got a bid to the chapter I was not expecting. Instead of being mad about the house that wanted me I still gave it a try and went to their bid day. I ended slowly falling in love with it and realized that it is actually the right chapter for me. My advice for anyone that has a similar experience is to still not give up because you could easily be walking away from the perfect fit meant for you!!!!

Talk to Maddie from Kappa Delta, she’s literally THE sweetest and realest. SDSU is very intense, especially within its Greek life, Maddie is a great girl ;) and yes there was not enough room. They took in about 90-ish girls this semester when it’s typically 60-70.

This happened to me and Im in a fraternity. Nothing wrong. Dont settle for something that is not YOU. Love the content sis

So glad to hear someone else has gone through the same thing, it’s really a disappointment when something like that happens

Thank you for making this video! I had the same rush experience as you and I can’t believe y’all only had 9 houses because your school seems large but my school had 6 and 500 girls rushed so a lot of people got dropped just because there weren’t enough spots available!!

This was a great video - I completely agree that researching all of the sororities beforehand usually just leads to disappointment. I rushed as a sophomore at my school and tried my hardest to put all of my preconceived notions about houses aside. I ended up joining one I had barely even heard up but immediately felt at home at when I walked in. Also, I was a Gamma Chi my senior year and we also were told to discourage PNMs from only putting one house on pref night. The way it was explained to us was that "if the PNM didn't "maximize their options" they weren't guaranteed a bid but if they did rank that second house they knew they would never join, they were" - on the sorority side, each house made a list x number of girls they 100% wanted but also made a "flex list" of the next x number of girls they also clicked with if people from their top list matched to another house. If the PNM didn't "maximize her options" she wasn't eligible for that flex list (there might have been more to this/a reason why....sounds silly now though). So basically, if the PNM puts house A that she really wants and house B that she hates, she's guaranteed to get on A's flex list and probs get a bid there bc the flex lists move fast. Whereas, if she only puts house A & she's not on their top list, that's it. Idk if that's how your system worked - but if so, I thought I could try to explain it a little more. Thanks for sharing this!

so glad I’m not the only one who has a story like this. I rushed last spring and had a similar situation. I go to Chico state and there’s a total of 6 sororities on our campus. After the first day and ranking from favorite to least favorite by keeping a top four and bottom two. I felt like I had such good vibes and bonding with my top four, but apparently it wasn’t mutual. Day two I was dropped by my TOP 4 sororities. Leaving me with my bottom two houses. I had to stick through for philanthropy day, and decided one of the two was better than the first day and the other was still never going to work for me. I had to go to both of them for pref night because it was the automatic default two because of them being the only ones left. By bid day the same thing happened to me. My absolute bottom house is the house I recieved a bid from. I made the decision to not accept my bid, and I still stand by my decision because I would never want to put myself through a bottom house on campus and in my heart where it never clicked or vibed. I’m still questioning if I’m going to rush again spring of 2019, but yeah that’s my story and I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one. sendin good vibes and good luck this semester and I hope if you rush again that it works out! :)

I don't understand the appeal of sororities. I get it's a way to find your "place" but it seems like a lot of stress and potential let down for what is a glorified club. If you want to meet new people and find your home on campus simply talk to the people around you in class, join a club that does not require you to look a certain way or act a certain way.

This was well done and so was your Pros and Cons video. I might be a little anti-social, LOL, but I've never been a fan of the Greek system. I definitely support SDSU tho. Go Aztecs! Best of luck in your time there.

Don't let this get you down just enjoy each day of your college experience. Have a blessed day.

I think you should go through recruitment again, you're right the system does get very messed up and it's out of a houses control. Recruitment was hell for me, but I got into DG and now I'm an alum so it ended up working out!

So alpha phi axo and pi phi had that “look”

As a PHC sister from another west coast university, it sounds like they need to bring in another (maybe even 2-3?) chapters to campus. People will always get cut for grades first, then on the selection process itself, but it’s unfair if the system is restricted and takes less than half who go through. As a person who was a Rho Gam twice, I wish they would have explained the difference between Single Intentional Preference (SIP vs. suicide bid sounds less intense) and putting both down to explain you would have just gotten a call not to come and could potentially go through in the Spring, COB, etc. versus being ok with either choice. Maybe you should be a part of a group that asks PHC to bring on another sorority. Our school brought one on and it forced every chapter into taking significantly less girls to accommodate but it sounds like SDSU has the opposite problem. Join another club that interests you/fits your major in the meantime. That’s what I did and stayed friends with them while I was in Greek life too. I went through recruitment as a sophomore so I wish you the best of luck!

Oh man that sounds intense! I went to SDSU my freshman year, did not rush. Then transferred to another school and did join a sorority. It's also kind of messed up from the inside, learning how sororities do the choosing of who to give bids too.

I didn’t rush, but I did do the interest meeting for one sorority & I know exactly what you mean by that “look”. There’s really not that much diversity. Especially since my University is pretty small, very sad. Let’s rush in the fall! (:

girl the literal same exact thing happened to me on bid day at sdsu!!! this is so accurate and i feel you completely ahhaha!

don't let the fact that you didn't get a bid from your top house the first time bring you down! I have girls in my house that rushed two or three times just to be in our house because they absolutely KNEW it was the perfect fit, and it is! don't be afraid to re-rush next year! ps your attitude about the whole thing is so inspiring i LOVE it!

I went to SDSU. I tried rushing fraterneties and didnt get bids. I took that as everything happens for a reason. Super happy it didnt happen. I got involved in housing on campus was an RA, worked over summer doing conferences for housing and later was in a co professional business frat. I am telling u that greek life is not whats it cracked up to be and by junior year u will be over it. U turn 21 and frat psrties become so lame.

You can start a new sorority. A friend of mine started a fraternity years ago and it is still going strong.

From someone that has been on the back end of sorority recruitment, it is unfortunate that your Rho Gamma was misinformed and made you feel like you HAD to put both chapters down during your final selections. Putting down only one chapter does not lessen your chances of receiving a bid from that chapter since the system puts the PNMs preference first when bid matching occurs after the final round. If you 100% knew you did not want to join your #2 chapter you actually would have been a good candidate to Single Intentional Preference. That way, in your case you would have just simply not received a bid on bid day, but would have been eligible to go through Informal Recruitment on your campus this year rather than having to wait a full year to go through formal recruitment again. So sorry this happened to you, I hope your Panhellenic Council in the future can educate Rho Gamma's better to avoid putting PNMs in situations that you experienced. There are SO MANY myths about the "system" that controls Panhellenic Recruitment that I wish people were more transparent with PNMs about how it actually works to better set expectations. Also, your school DEFINITELY needs to add more chapters if that many women are going through recruitment. That would help a lot more women be happy at the end of the process too. Thank you for sharing your experience!

This process sounds exhausting. I wanted to be in a sorority in undergrad but never pledged. I'm in grad school now. Not sure if I want to join a grad chapter or not. Thanks Macy! I really enjoyed your video.

It sucks getting dropped from the sorority you really liked. I want to give formal recruitment another try but I am scared that it is going to happen to me again.

the same thing happened to me! but I ended up staying in the sorority anyways for a YEAR to see if I could learn to love it & I never did :) so I dropped after I spent a lot of money to be in it, crazy I know.

This exact same thing just happened to me!! I have always wanted to be in a sorority but I was so heartbroken the entire process and got dropped my all my favorites and called back to the ones I didn’t particularly care for. Don’t worry about it girl!! We can rush again and get em next time

I hope you have a great year at school!

Legit went through rush rn and experienced the same exact thing! Got stuck w my least favorite house that I'd been trying to drop since day 1 and ended up withdrawing

this is such a helpful video!! do you think the sororities also base if you get in on your social media, like if you have 1000s or followers or not

I’m a freshmen at SDSU too, I didn’t rush this year and I’m considering doing it next year but I’m not too sure. Also side note: are you in UT bc same lol

I love your videos!!

Love ur vids sooo much 💖😘

I'm at a school that has 24 sorority chapters. I thought for sure I would get my #1 choice but I didn't...I got my #2 and I cried so hard but of course, everyone thinks it's tears of joy. I walked away absolutely numb. My Rho came up and gave me a huge hug and was so excited because she was hoping I landed in her house. Oh great, I felt awkward but I blurted out "this isn't my first choice I wanted to be a DG." She kept hugging me anyways. And said, "you feel like this now, but trust your Sisters...we know you're a perfect fit for ChiO...give us a chance, we know and WANT you." Best advice ever...go with the house that WANTS you, because your SISTERS only want what's best from them and the chapter. I loved my 2nd choice and would've regretted if I got my 1st choice. Things work out for the best, embrace the house that WANTS you.

I lived with 6 SDSU sorority girls that were dropped from 3 different sororities. I can't remember which ones but my God that house was full of drama. Very superficial judgmental including towards each other. I spent a semester with my face in my palm and head to the side like a confused dog. I'm so happy everyone has graduated and the real world is consuming the educated mind. For educated women, talk about small minds. I enjoy being a judge free person and understanding I can't comprend the world being single minded. And still love them all. They crack me up.

the same thing happened to me my first year rushing! but I went through again and got my top choice and now i’m super happy! I personally recommend rushing again, but do what you think is best for you🤪

I was never involved in Greek life and even I know certain houses go for a certain “look.” It’s not hard to figure out, especially when every member of some sororities look identical to each other 😂

when you go to state and know exactly which two houses you had to struggle through bc #same hahah

i also got the one i was trying to drop everyday and then i dropped them after 2 weeks

Great video! Do you know if transfer students are allowed to rush for sororities or is it strictly for incoming freshmen? I’m transferring to SDSU next fall and I’m interested in rushing, but I can’t find anywhere online the specific rules about transfer students. Thanks!

I got dropped from all houses after the second day and honestly I had no hard feelings about it. The process just wasn't great for me.

The exact same thing happened to me during rush this year.

Just enjoy college!!

my rush starts this weekend aha we'll see how that goes

I was a Rho Gamma at SDSU years ago, I can't believe there's that many women going through recruitment these days! (I sound so old)

Being in a sorority, this is perfectly well said. What happens is the greek community will use a website (or even an app) and basically the website does all the calculations between the potential new members and the sorority girls themselves. They rank you just like you rank them. Have regular natural conversations while standing out! If there is a fun fact about yourself, try and slide it in the conversation because it will be easier for them to remember you! I had this happen to me too where I had my top choice and then my bottom choice on the last day. Trust your gut because *most of the time* it is right. Usually when a sorority keeps on calling you back, they see something in you that you do not, so definitely take it as a compliment even if you don't get the bid you want. It's extremely okay to not take a bid or drop in the process because joining a sorority just to get letters is just ridiculous to me and as we always say you want to find your home.

Amazing what people will go through to have "friends". Play intramural sports, join a club, or simply speak to the people in your classes. You'll meet way more genuine people that way than the "I pay for friends" club!

You should try checking out a multicultural sorority, there are about 9 of them and the rushing process is quite different. Just a suggestion, doesn’t hurt to check it out. I know they’re tabling at SDSU all this week, on the side of the library (closest to the bookstore).

the exact same thing happened at CU boulder, 1700 rushed and we only have ten houses

u saved me THANK U

Those odds are actually horrible... you literally only had a 45% chance of getting into a sorority. The school also hypes it up so much and makes everyone believe you're gonna find your home. It's ridiculous

i shit you not, i starved myself for a month before freshman year to match the Alpha Phi look. Ever notice all the girls look the same, at least on the photos they post online? Super skinny, blonde, tan.... this is a really negative comment, I know, but jeeze, the pressure is real. Decided not to rush because of the absurd prices (which weren't much different from the room + board prices, for some reason).

What will it take to be a guest star in your vlogs??

I had a friend who literally went to every fraternity house in Long Beach State and it’s the same thing stereotypes in frats and sororities I happen to belong in a fraternity and at Long Beach it’s all about been top house at the same some of the people in those sororities and fraternities are pretty cool just some of them thing their the biggest thing 😂😂

That’s insane I rushed at penn state and we had 2000 girls but 22 house

Oh my gosh I go to state and I’m about to rush next week

When is rush at SDSU? Like is it during school or the week before school starts?

does rush happen during classes? what happens if you have a class during a party?

This was basically my exact experience my freshman year lmaooo love state. Tbh just rush again next year and you'll most likely get in because you'll know more people and sophomores are more likely to get in too

Same exact thing happened to me at the u of a it was depressing

This it literally the exact situation that happened to me! I did a suicide bid because i didnt see myself at the other house at all.

this exact thing happened to me during rush... literally the exact thing lmaoo

For the people that don’t end up in a house at SDSU: do most people drop or get dropped?

Literally same exact thing happened to me this year😭😭

I’m so nervous this is going to happen to me

I declined a bid from a sorority as well because the sororities at my college felt like high school cheerleaders/popular kids in high school. I'm glad I didnt join because some of the girls sent me the nastiest glares the rest of this semester. Talk about two-faced!

Finally someone who gets it...

Do a productive day in your life vlog!!! while you do just work and have a busy day

hey! I'm from Spain but I'm in college at the US and I applied to SDSU, I visited the university and I loved it. But I got so many people telling me that I wouldn't like the environment at the school because everything is very focused on sororities. Since I'm from Spain and we don't have this (I just know about it from movies) I would like to know like why does it exist? And why do people prefer living with a sorority instead of renting an apartment with other students etc. I am not hating on anything I just want to understand more about it since it is not very familiar to me. 😉👍🏽

Very well said

My dad the director of the LARC department at SDSU

I joined a fraternity. It's the most informal process ever.

Hi, do you know the chance to get a single room?

what that means is that you were higher on the bid list of your least favorite house just so you know

I’m in a sorority and I hate when they say “mutual” because it’s not haha. Oh and the system is messed up. Like you can get dropped just based on alphabetical order.

Props on u for being real. Most of them just pay for friends.