Word. And thank you co-testing 😉

Yeah. the bigger techtubers (j2C, Linus, Bitwit) arent monitor reviewers. It's mostly unboxing and intial reaction. They dont have the skillset to properly review a monitor like how Rtings and HUB and Techtesters and Optimum Tech. And initial reaction is nowhere near a proper review. KZfaq needs MORE proper monitor review channels to drown out the initial reaction videos.

@@kingsgold Honestly, even my grandmother would have been able to spot these problems, but still they didn't.

@@__improwise__ most of them got sponsored by Samsung to make those unboxing videos, so watch them with a grain of salt. Truly grateful to see a REAL and HONEST review, this is a guide we need before making purchasing decision, thank you Techtesters!

They covered all these and much more so you may want to go back and fact check this shit comment you made here :) however yes this monitor is worth the money IF your using it for work but for gaming I would wait a bit.

If you're afraid to step on the toes of a company you shouldn't be a reviewer tbh. I do hope Samsung reacts well to this, we'll find out soon enough I guess! I really hope they can either fix this, or revise it soon. If they do, I'll be the first to give them credits too!

@@TechTesters . Glad you spoke out also. Never change.

Brave and stunning

The three reviews by 'larger' youtube channels which I checked and who speak highly of this monitor, all start with the disclaimer "Sponsored by Samsung".

@@TechTesters Have their been any improvements or solutions now that it has been 10 months?

That is the problem I have with it. Most b rolls in this video were taken today with all the issues still present, and they are far from resolving them. Meh 😑

I want them to make a flat 27 version 240 hertz 1440p VA or IPS or both or mini LED with a full fat G sync module,

Firmware is a very small part of it, adoption rate is far more important. Until it's ubiquitous, neither game support nor a bug(s) free experience will be provided. This is its Alpha stage, not even a Beta.

If you can handle the FALD grid on white backgrounds (which to me was so horrible that I constantly was refocusing on the content) than maybe for gaming it is worth it. But than for half the price. For productivity it is horrible imho.

@@TechTesters wow you had 3 faulty units, my first one was a winner after fw 1007.3 was released, sorry you had a bad experience , take note that a better dp or hdmi cord is a must as the included cables are terrible, also vrr needs to be on, windows 11 is a must and I like dimming on high 24/7

Oh this has been super frustrating. A product sucking isnt new. Spending months with new samples, updates, etc and it still being disappointing is infuriating 😔

So I’m in the market for buying an super ultrawide and this keeps popping up but I see negative and positive reviews. So I’m torn right now but the one thing I kinda want to see and wait for is an IPS 49” monitor and I’m having a hard time finding one. Have you used an IPS and then Switched to a VA which this one has and if so what is your experience with it?

Still good?

Two years I've been using Samsung Odyssey G9 Great game monitor with virtual effect

@@valorandvenom1131 It terms of refresh rate, response time, and color reproduction I am happy with the odyssey neo G9. I have not specifically tried to look at inverse ghosting yet. Also, I sit dead center and the screen is curved, so off angle viewing does not seem to mean the same thing as it does in a flat panel.

Still recommend it 8 months on? Any issues?

Glad to read this. I have the 48 inch C1 and playing/working on the RTX 4090. I’m looking at all the ultrawides but there doesn’t seem to be one perfect screen. The C3 is better but not by miles. Still need to wait a while before a 4K ultra wide oled with perfect specs comes out.

It should have been... got one since day 1.... hope in due time they fix the problems with a ultimate firmware update.

I was hoping the same thing, which probably made the disappointment even worse. But honestly even at half the price the issues just kill it.

I myself enjoyed using my neo g9, but this video over 2 years ago, and samsung improve the neo g9 over time.

@@GanJosie Totally agree.

Happy it's appreciated. I think you're doing the smart thing too. I really wanted to like this, I gave it tons of chances, but I just don't see them working this out before a next revision or 2022 update.

I'm reluctantly reading this conversation at the moment because I don't want to not like this monitor. Ive also lusted over this monitor due to it's novelty but after much research and reviews I might just go with that Alienware

i have mine at 120 hz with vrr on and have none of these issues, or i can create a custom res and use 155 hz and stil no issues, of course im using dyanmic hdr and dimming on high 24/7, which is the best way imo

Happy to hear you liked it @WooTd - The flickering and/or brightness adjustments aren't just with G-Sync on though, or limited to Nvidia or AMD, and it does seem pretty consistent with which kind of scenes it happens in. That Tomb Raider scene with dark sides, then a lit up character in the middle is an easy way to reproduce it. So I still think it's reacting to content badly rather than struggling at a hardware level. It's mostly an issue with HDR content which does push brightness levels higher, so .. maybe? I still think it should be firmware fixable, but I'm just not holding my breath for it at this point It's funny (or sad) that I bought a Samsung QLED TV a while ago that behaved very similar, with no way to get around it either. - I think the final sentence sums it up. Looking at what I've seen, what close friends have shown me with theirs, and the tons of other threads and reports, it's just too much. There's a few people going really aggressively against my (and other) negative feedback on this, but there is just way too much going on with this product to call it anything other than a disappointment. Funny how that upsets some buyers though.

@@mainsource8030 brightness flickering with VRR enabled is an inherent VA panel problem, there is no solution for it (not talking about local dimming related flickering which is another matter). Your reducing of refresh rate will not solve flickering issues, it will fix scanlines and pixel inversion artifacts. If you never noticed flickering with VRR enabled that just means you have never played a game with frame rate spikes big enough to trigger LFC on your monitor.

@@gencoserpen1260 i often play the latest games, like currently i just beat the dead space remake, bf2042, elden ring and am playing returnal. that being said i do use an rtx 4090 with a ryzen 7900x3d so you are probably right about the spike/flickering issue. i also use v-sync on and g-sync on in the ncp, but always v-sync off in game as per the blur busters g-sync article. i also sometimes turn vrr off, cant really see a difference

Happy to help! :D

I bought this monitor for office use and to use a mac and a PC at the same time.

She always keeps it real with her reviews.

I don't regret =P It's awesome monitor

So Samsung is trash? Is thay what youre saying? I used to like Samsung.

@@fynkozari9271 their quality control issues are way too prevalent and not just with this monitor.

My pleasure! I don't remember seeing the 49", but I had the 43" version of it which was definitely a nice work monitor!

It's cheap because it's only 60hz, I could not go back to 60hz, feels like using a pc in quicksand

Just like LG's straight bullshit so-called "5K2K" monitor which they claim is a 5K Ultrawide monitor when in reality it's actually a 4K Ultrawide monitor aka 5120 x 2160 = 4K Ultrawide. 5120 x 2160 doesn't even have the total pixel count of 16:9 5K resolution. Only 1 KZfaqr correctly called it a 4K Ultrawide monitor while everyone else refers to it as a 5K Ultrawide monitor. 😂😂😂

@@PSYCHOV3N0M i almost wouldnt even call it 4k since its still way under by pixel count

@@BrittanyMartin917 I'm not talking about DCI 4K. I'm talking about UHD 4K.

@@PSYCHOV3N0M yes by pixel count its not even 4k UHD its still 920k pixels less

@@PSYCHOV3N0M I know and this monitor isnt even 4K UHD if your going by pixel count its still 921.6k short.

yes me too, I want this monitor, but, without the problems😉

It will cost twice as much as the g9 neo im currently using the old g9 and im very happy with it no problems at the moment it also has two year warranty so i think im good

​@@jsteff9290 I've had both the G9 and the G9 neo and there is a world of difference. Dynamic range on the G9 Neo is infinitely better as the amount of backlight MiniLEDs are infinitely higher (i don't remember the exact number) and while the G9 only has 10 individual dimming zones (as vertical bands) the G9 NEO has 2048 individual dimming zones each individually adjustable, making for an extreme dynamic range between pitch black and white. A major difference comes if you run a high end GPU like the RTX4090. Then you will actually benefit from the fact that the G9 NEO supports 240Hz refresh rate at the 5120x1440 resolution. I run the RTX4090 with my G9 neo and they are a match made in heaven. Another big selling point for some is the dual Displayport input option. The monitors hardware can actually receive signal from two devices and because the resolition of the G9 NEO is in fact the same a two UHD monitors side by side it can split the display in two so you actually get two monitors in one. I've tried it with my wifes Mac and my own PC and ... damn it is strange to sit and look at a monitor that shows the mac output on the left and the PC output on the right. If you consider buying two monitors anyway (also if you just use them on one computer, like most people do), the price tag suddenly isn't so hefty as one should think at first glance. Two high-end HD monitors would set you back just as much as buying one G9 NEO, and then you even get the benefit of getting rid of the bezel in the middle (win-win). Many tout this monitor as a perfect Gaming Monitor - and it is - hands down - the finest gaming experience I've had, but it should also be mentioned that this is the first time I run on highher refresh rates than the normal 144Hz that I had on my previous tripple G-Sync monitor setup. But it also has a huge place in the media production niche. I used to have alll sorts of setups a few years back I experimented with 5 pcs of 27" HD1440 moniotors in pivot next to each other, and while it gave me a nice resolution of 7200x2560 i grew tired of having 4 black bezels in my image consisting of 5 monitors in portrait mode. So after a year two of those monitors went out the window and the three remaining were pivot'd back to horizontal so I had a conventional setup of 3 horizontally mounted 2560x1440px GSync monitors. It was better but I still hated the two bezels still there, and although I had the monitors with the slimmest possible bezels (at the time) it was still an eyesore - at least in my oppinion. But when the G9 neo was out I was sold. I knew that was what I needed. So now I have this setup and it works like a charm when doing productions and I only have to use one single monitor for the setup (well two but that's because I have an 80" Flat Panel on the wall 3 meters back obove my desk to preview the result when I'm editing, but that's much more interesting than my previous setup where I also only used the two monitors for editing and then the monitor at the far right was only showing the preview production window. So in fact I still have the same work area as I had before where I only used two monitors for editing and the third for preview. Now I just have the preview the right way on a proper flat panel on the wall above my desk so I can see the result the way others would receive it. Finally I must say that the G9/G9 neo (this goes for both monitors), is the first monitor where I was truly able to operate the built in menus via the tiny joystick (that is both a button and a stick) simply by intuition. As an IT admin through 25 years I have been working with so many monitors and they almost always spread the functionality out on 6-7 buttons with the four reserved for up down, OK and cancel, and then a few more for on/off, mode-switch etc. It's horrible. On the G9/G9neo you just click the button/joystick conveniently located right underneath the blue power-on indicator LED so you always know where to find it under the miles and miles of monitor. As for all the problems people describe I haven't had any. I didn't get the G9 the instant it came out, so I have to admit that I cannot deny that early firmware was bugged, but as of the ver 1010 I immediately upgraded mine to when I got it, I haven't seen any of the problems. The only problems I've had was due to faults of my own. It is absolutely crucial to use properly certified Display Port cables. Don't use cables that are not certified for DP1.4 (at LEAST!). I already use DP2.1 certified cables, as I am certain that within very short time I will buy the G9 NEO 54" monster at a full 7680x2560 solution giving me two 4K monitors side by side in ONE panel, and since the RTX4090 is the only GPU that can run 7680z2560 at 240Hz right now, my GPU is already prepared for that monitor. I can hardly wait. 🙂

yes mine (not the NEO) was also good and after 1.5 year it gives problems. It is now for waranty in and ik hope to get my money back.

Hi there, Did they fixed the issues below? Gradient Lines on One color such as white background Flicker to brightness Quality Control Issues Construction Defects like the FALD Grid DSE

@@JedLR1945 To be quite honest with you im not aware of the Construction Defects but as far as everything else, I haven't experienced any problems and it's been a well rounded monitor for me productivity wise and gaming.

I don't undertssnd why all the Ig reviewers praise this monitor. Did they use it for all of 5 minutes before posting their review? I don't get it

@@theos25 a lot of reviewers never do long term usage since they have to cover the product asap. before the buzz dies since they would get less views

@@theos25 its exactly what they do. They get paid, put it back in the box and go back to their desk where their Dell or LG sits.

@@jamesmcmahonii8433 People keep making this statement and it's complete BS in most cases. Mewthree is spot on with what is really happening" People work with these monitors for a week or something an don't spend the time finding the actual bugs issues. Stop suggesting that there is some grand conspiracy. When it usually boils down to looking at the feature for a few days and writing up what they think instead of spending time deep diving the device.

@@KellicTiger didn't suggest a conspiracy. You just made people's point. The general consumer makes a purchase and uses the monitor for months on end daily. The reviewer gets one, and are indeed compensated for their reviews via sponsorship, do the review by using it for a week or two as you stated, and go back to whatever their personal setup is that's not the products they just reviewed. That's ok. Most reviewers are pretty honest about having a "personal rig." That doesn't mean its a conspiracy. It's business. But let's not act like reviewers don't review dozens to hundreds of devices/yr by spending hard time with them like a consumer does.

What gpu do you run

QN94A which I have is far better, I own as well the C1 and BX and QN94A beats both honestly, movies and games pop so much better than an OLED, OLEDs are great for a few niche things, like space scenes but for everything else QLED is miles better, I've never experienced anything like it, the image just pops out of the screen and almost looks 3D at times it's mind blowing.

@@vidiveniviciDCLXVI haven´t tried a qled but i own a 48CX and the picture pops enough guess it´s like always personal preference ever since i could grab a 6900xt i couldn´t be happier.

@@zuzmju I won't be able to tell you how much different it is zuz, but trust me, the QLED picture is on another level in terms of HDR and even SDR content. The extra 1000 nits of brightness make so much differences in the picture, even in a dark room. I was so surprised myself.

Yes, I also have the previous G9 after trying out the G9 NEO. Although the HDR is not as impressive, it's a way better choice if you do any productivity. I feel way more happier with the "older" G9 than I did with the NEO G9.

Good to hear. I just ordered one and hope I have the same experience you have.

I'm pretty sure each and every Neo G9 has scanlines visible on certain colors at 240hz. Maybe you don't know what to look for.

The vid is a year old. Maybe things have changed for the better since then? Also, the monitor had a huge price drop. In Amazon, it costs 1600€.

Hey, if you're happy, that's all that matters :)

@@TechTesters you new with computers? That is an amazing monitor.

How do you run 120 fps because I have a ps5 connected to it its performance mode and everything but when I got to change the fps it says it's not available

@@aluckyshot I was thinking the same thing. With all the negative comments I read and OP's video it makes me think the large number of negatives come from non-technical people. Those are the worst to base any decision on. I haven't bought one but I'm looking hard at one now.

Same using a 6900 XT with free sync premium pro. Absolutely no issues with flickering, HDR. I bet a lot of these issues come down to slightly older Nvidia cards imho and earlier revisions of the monitor. Also HDR on Windows PC is not a plug and play experience like in TV realm, you really need to adjust the color settings per game for best results.

They actually had to push a revision (or more) before the Odyssey G9 was "good" right? Let's hope they do the same here, but that still won't help early adopters.

@@TechTesters That's true, there will be some problem that will requires a new revision. What is insane in all of this, if you manage to adopt this extra wide display, somehow can't go back to 16:9, it's like Odyssey G9 or Neo G9 will adopt you and you can live with all the problems of this display :))

Glad you enjoyed it! :D

2 months ago these issues were already solved. Majority of new models seem not having a grid problem anymore.

fortunately, the popping sound is heat related, so if you set brightness low and stick to sdr content, you never have popping lol :D in a dark room this is not an issue, especially since original G9 is worthless in HDR anyway lol my only issue with original G9 is the interlacing patterns in orange colors near the corners of the screen. maybe also the interlacing bug with certain patterns on the screen too, where the entire screen will go into a dark interlaced pattern until you switch to different content. still not fixed with latest firmware tho it is fairly rare when gaming to encounter content that triggers it.

@@Bearricaded I used to get black flicker and games like fortnite would simply launch to a black screen. Never recover from sleep mode. The list goes on...

If mine had also started making sounds I would have kicked them out the window 😂

Happy to help! :)

I used to own the original G9 when it first released. It had even worse and more issues than she mentioned here for the Neo, but over time it got better as Samsung fixed the QC and firmware. It's the same thing here, so I just got the Neo. I hope the new OLED G9 fares better and is more usable at launch.

I have an OLED cx in my lounge, and agree with you that they are better, except as a monitor. I plugged in my pc to test how it would be and the desktop experience was very bad imo. Also I prefer the immersion of a wide screen and not a tall screen, just my personal thing.

Lol

Thank you! 😊

My pleasure!

Hope you get lucky! Let me know how it goes :)

So update: I got the neo today, finished installing it an hour ago and mounted it on my wall. So far NO visible FALD grid like people claim, the upgrad eto firmware 1008 went smoothly and the monitor is bright, crisp with no backlight bleed or any other defects that I can see. I have yet to test HDR since I'm in the middle of upgrading to Windows 11 but the panel itself seems to be working great. The one thing I did notice that others pointed out is on dark backgrounds (e.g. KZfaq in dark mode), you get dark splotching around lighter text because of the way local dimming works and there's a halo around the cursor---not really a big deal, its part of the technology so I accept it. The thing is though, I'm not sure I'll keep this monitor! I'm a competitive FPS gamer and while this thing will be awesome in racing/flight sim games, it pushes the UI out to the edges and I often look at that in many games so I have to keep shifting my attention to the sides with this thing. I've got 15 days to return it to Best Buy so I'll give it a good week or so of testing, if it grows on me I'll keep it otherwise it's going back and my Zowie XL2746S will get its place back on my desktop. For those of you nervous about getting this thing, if you're comfortable with 32:9 and aren't a competitive FPS player, this monitor is great and it seems Samsung has worked out the major flaws people noted.

Final update: The monitor grew on me and I love it! Mine has virtually no major flaws (no BL bleed, HDR works great, 240 hz works great, no noticeable FALD lines) with the exception of it flickering when it comes out of sleep and that's easily fixed by turning it on/off so I'm assuming a firmware update will take care of that. Overall, very immersive monitor at 32:9 and I love playing Halo Infinite campign on it, feels like a movie! I'd definitely recommend this monitor to anyone looking, just be aware that like this reviewer, some have had bad units so like most LCDs these days, its a lottery so be sure you buy from a retailer like BB that takes returns easily.

Same here. This video just made spend 1000€ less. And know that i have 1000€ just laying around i am thinking of a dual g9 monitor setup🤔

@@Fabsi87 You're going to need two beefy graphics cards to run them. :)

@@scottamolinari got a 3080ti this should be enough to run games on one screen and educational adult content on the other one

That sounds like an ok price. Hope it turned out well!

@@TechTesters I should clarify I mean vs the Neo so still £975 in the sale but watching quite a few reviews especially yours made me think it’s a better decision to use with my Mac mini M1 and X17.

That Cooler Master SK622 you mean? :D

I cant speak for others, but Samsung has not put any pressure since we started reporting problems, starting back in July. Waiting for their response to the video still, but at no point did they do or try anything unprofessional. But, other regions will have other people running things.

Thanks so much! Btw it has fewer pixels than 4k, but I'd say a 3080 or 6900 xt is a good target!

@@TechTesters yeah but to run all games with all these pixels at 240Hz Will be mission impossible. You will be forced to get married to the latest GPU in each generation 😀

Hey Ronnie, thank you so much :D

My pleasure!

Glad you think so!

My pleasure.. kinda 😂

@@TechTesters I totally understand. All the hassle to get it, test it, get disappointed and finally return it :-/ What I really don't get is why they are focusing on 240 Hz at all, if both DP1.4 and HDMI 2.1 do not fully support it with all features without using any compression. Additionally, it casues scanlines, flickering or whatever. So in total it simply does not work correctly. They should aim for 144Hz or such, remove the ridiculous infinity core lightning (not sure what this should be good for at all, every status-led is brighter) completely and focus on a good image quality >= 120 Hz. But I would guess that with DP 2.0 they might go the other way and just raise the theoretically achievable Hz again and keep all the issues like they did with the previous G9s.

Thanks!😊

Thanks! Hope the G9 continues to work out for you!

My pleasure! And I use the LG 38GN950-B, still very happy with it (I mostly edit and play games). I have a video on that as well.

@@TechTesters Thank you very much!