I've been collecting old digital cameras for years based entirely on how weird they are. I finally found two that you gotta see. Support me on Patreon: / cathoderaydude Tip me: ko-fi.com/cath...
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@zachaliles Жыл бұрын
When I started out as a mechanic back in the early 2000's I bought a cheap digital camera to help with complicated teardowns and reassembly. I would take a picture after every step so when it came time to put it back together I could just scroll backwards through the pictures. It really helped when I was doing drum brakes and transmission rebuilds and whatever else. I never printed any of them, I just deleted them after every job was done.
@jettesides420 Жыл бұрын
Drum brakes should come with a camera, tbh.
@8BitNaptime Жыл бұрын
I do the same thing but for vintage computer stuff. When I get a new thing to take apart, I take several pictures from many angles of each step, even if it's something that isn't that complicated. It sure saves time vs. making hand-drawn sketches and notes.
@JessicaFEREM9 ай бұрын
You could've made some dough by uploading them to the internet with a guide.
@pdrg Жыл бұрын
PCMCIA stood for People Can't Memorise Computer Industry Acronyms
@thrjfi5360 Жыл бұрын
Right up the with SMPTE stood for don't join
@jochenstacker7448 Жыл бұрын
TWAIN, thing without an interesting name.
@seanwieland9763 Жыл бұрын
SNMP: Security? Not My Problem
@thrjfi5360 Жыл бұрын
Who can for get the classic......CRAFT.....can't remember a fucking thing.....ooohhh I went there new year new speech rules
@gabotron94 Жыл бұрын
P.C. Manufacturers Cannot Invent Acronyms
@Ziraya0 Жыл бұрын
The manual zoom may have been a technical necessity due to the extension cord. If you had to power a DC motor, almost certainly a brushed hobby motor, over 40 inches of vaguely flexible cable, and that cable also had to stream raw video from an image sensor, in 1998, I don't think you could have done it without inducing pretty severe noise on the video feed. If that video uplink is digital, it would probably cut out completely while zooming, and if it's analog you'd have lots of noise. In either case you would need extra circuitry to protect both ends from dangerous crosstalk voltages. With the permanent pivoting camera designs, you can put even so little as millimeters between the signal and power lines, but you can also make the length where they're close very short, and you can keep the signal lines very short. With them all together in one cable over 40 inches, preventing cross talk isn't impossible, but given that many contacts and the physics that cable is displaying, I don't expect it to be carrying twisted pair, and I don't expect it to have particularly much shielding between pairs. There's plenty of ways to improve this noise that I don't think they would pay for, they might not think of because they're audio (balanced line), or I'm not sure had been developed yet then.
@hyperflares2879 Жыл бұрын
The noise i made when the CCD extension cable came out startled my flatmates. They thought I was choking to death.
@Hittares Жыл бұрын
Actually, there is a possibility that Sony Venice cinema cameras with extension system can be traced back to this exact Minolta camera. Sony bought Minolta camera division and the current Alpha line is a direct descendant of Minolta cameras. I like to think that there is an engineer who started their career in Minolta with this great idea of a separate sensor element and eventually rose up in the corporate hierarchy high enough to bring it to the cinema world.
@iraqigeek8363 Жыл бұрын
That's one hell of a blast from the past! I remember reading about the dimage V in a computer magazine at the time and drooling about the idea of that detachable lens and extension cord! It was so cool! I'm happy to finally see someone cover that camera :)
@catfish552 Жыл бұрын
Cool camera concept, old cat pics, and a Two of Them... what more could I want to start the year with!
@Cmdad Жыл бұрын
I could honestly listen to you talking about anything for 30 mins, and im engaged. Love the video's, happy new year Gravis
@fenrircerebellion Жыл бұрын
I know this is probably a wild outlier, but there are cars in Japan from the early 2000s (and maybe later and earlier?) that use PCMCIA as a way to plug in your music library. I know because my 2005 import has a "PC card" slot in between the CD slot and a hard-disk drive slot, that came with a smart media/SD/MMC to PCMCIA adapter in it Xd
@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
Damn, seeing some Nissan Skylines with Minidisc players on them was already enough of an oddball to me, a PCMCIA MP3 player (is it?) seems extra wild.
@belstar1128 Жыл бұрын
Isn't 2005 a little late for pcmcia.
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@belstar1128 Not for a car manufacturer, where the time between the original concept to being rolled out on the production line is up to 10 years, so a lot of things are a generation or five behind the current state, plus add to that the likely original use was in the Japanese luxury market segment, and after 5 years in there the new hot idea came out, the old one was stopped, but the parts are still being made, so put them in the lower end vehicles as a mid range vehicle. Just like ABS was originally an option on luxury vehicles, then it became standard on them, then an option on mid range, then standard, and now it is standard on pretty much every vehicle, except the bottom of the range. After all you still got vehicles with a cassette player in the 2010's, brand new stock, while the top end had early versions of BT and plug in audio.
@fisqual Жыл бұрын
What car(s?) Did you see this in? I'm familiar with in-dash electronic toll collection systems in Japan but the only PCMCIA I've seen was for really old navigation systems. And they would have a card reader in them sometimes to update the maps...
@Bertie_Ahern Жыл бұрын
I seem to remember most cars from the late '90s having a range of digital slots for different devices, mostly as chargers unless you had flatscreen displays, which were usually only an option or upgrade on most vehicles at the time
@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
About the screwed up Minolta: did it by any chance make some weird pink pictures that... melted downwards??? My old Canon Powershot A75 died that way. It suddenly one day started to show pink molten pictures, it was incredible, the picture itself, like even if you held it steady, started to melt downwards. It was a natural creepypasta machine by that point, and it had a CCD sensor like some of the older cameras (now they're mostly CMOS ones), I wonder if this is one weird failure mode of CCDs.
@CathodeRayDude Жыл бұрын
It was a common failure in ccds produced for a while in the late nineties and early 2000s. My recollection is that it was caused in the canon models by a manufacturing defect that allows moisture ingress to the CCD, more or less shorting the columns together and allowing charge bleed, but don't quote me. It's deeply unsettling; when I first saw it happen it scared the hell out of me. These ones don't do it, but I think I have a Sony somewhere that does.
@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude I can easily imagine stories of possessed cameras with this defect indeed, I think I stored some pictures of that here just for fun.
@aidanjarosgrilli Жыл бұрын
wow, never heard of that, do you have any links to examples?
@eDoc2020 Жыл бұрын
My family's A80 developed the same problem. Canon actually had a free replacement program for a few years but it naturally ended right before the problem occurred on mine. At first it would usually be OK but then it started happening more and more often, eventually happening all the time. Finally it stopped producing a picture at all.
@Kalvinjj Жыл бұрын
@@aidanjarosgrilli Sorry for not replying, couldn't find the image I had here, probably on some backup external drive or such, it's hella funny but the most demonic, non-edited picture I've ever taken, all by accident. Here's a similar example: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/F717_CCD_fault.jpg (if KZfaq allows the link...)
@finkelmana Жыл бұрын
I had SCSI on my PC back in the mid to late 90s. I even had a SCSI PCMCIA card reader. The used/returns sections of MicroCenter and CompUSA were a great place to get items at a discount. Or if you were more adventurous, you could buy the item, then return it, then buy it off the discount rack. I can neither confirm nor deny doing this. I also got lucky with some companies selling off "broken" equpment. I got a few multi-bay external drive enclosures and various drives for $1 each, when all they needed was a new fuse.
@joncharlotteschoen11 ай бұрын
"Can neither confirm nor deny". 👍 love it. Same here.
@JohnDlugosz10 ай бұрын
Yea, I got a very good flatbed scanner -- with PhotoShop included -- on the discount parade at MicroCenter. The salesguy said that it's probably just the included SCSI card, which many people can't get to work. I had a good SCSI card in the computer so didn't need their cheap card, anyway.
@LaskyLabs Жыл бұрын
You're treating us (and me) far too well with all of this grade A content. If I got paid more I'd give to you on Patreon but right now I'm too busy giving my money to Adobe... I love classic cameras, digital or non so this is a great treat for me. Do keep it up please!
@LaskyLabs Жыл бұрын
Also, happy new year! (I hope we can get the raw files of the cat pics that came with the camera, those are such a vibe.)
@PurrrNya Жыл бұрын
I had a "serial port to headphone jack" adapter about 20 years ago in a pile of computer gubbins. I don't remember now where it came from but I remember thinking at the time "what in the world could this be possibly used for?" Now I know what in the world it could be possibly used for. Thanks for solving a mystery from long ago!
@j1t176 Жыл бұрын
wow, this video made me realize how much i love crappy pictures taken with sub optimal equipment
@stackIsOverflow Жыл бұрын
A very basic demosaicing algorithm may explain a part of the strong artifacts from the Minolta camera. The strong zippering artifacts at 13:14 made me think about that. The way the camera handles noisy images may also be linked... Maybe they pick a basic algorithm to save computation time while saving the image. The Toshiba camera seems to do much better in that regard. Thanks for this video!
@SianaGearz Жыл бұрын
A lot of serial-to-2.5mm cables for cameras use the same pinout (tip:host RX, ring: GND, sleeve: host TX), and a lot of them work with the same protocol, via what has become known as Sierra protocol, named so after Sierra Imaging who sold a turnkey camera platform consisting of i think one of their chips and two Fujitsu chips, one of them being the SPARClite CPU and another a DSP, if i'm not horribly mistaken. Today it's supported by gPhoto library and back in the day you could use software called Came from TsuruZoh Tachibanaya. My favourite weird camera is the Sanyo VPC Z-400. At first it looks strikingly normal until you have had a "pleasure" of using some other cameras of the time. One problem common to cameras of the era before Li-Ion is that if you were using them with NiMH cells and they run flat or if it got rapidly colder, the camera is likely to unable to shutdown properly and retract the lens. Sanyo's solution: spring mount the lens, so you can just force it into the camera without harming the mechanism, you just put a cap on it. Another problem: CCFL backlight is weak and takes up a lot of power, and transflective LCDs weren't a thing yet, so in sunlight, the display is completely useless. Sanyo's solution: a window at the top of the camera leading into the backlight prism, so to review your picture you shot in the sunlight, you open the window and aim the top of the camera at the sun, it's not perfect, but you can see things. I just love these seemingly low-tech solutions to high-tech problems. The camera actually took entirely adequate 1.3MP pictures. It wasn't as good as cameras that came a few years later, but also not as bad as cameras that you're reviewing here. That dithering pattern reminds me of weird debayering on some Olympus cameras of the era, but here on this Minolta it's WAY worse. But i'm still fairly confident it's got capacitor plague, because of what flash is doing.
@FinnleysAudioAdventures Жыл бұрын
I got the Minolta Dimage V for my 17th birthday, I think. Took it to an air show with my SLR. I did use the extension on a tripod to shoot over the crowd… for four photos until the batteries died. I shot the rest on the SLR
@MeriaDuck Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of PCMCIA being used from a digital camera directly to a laptop, that's quite cool! (And am old enough to have lived in the days before USB by a fairly big margin 🤣)
@LordGrayHam Жыл бұрын
Cool cameras, great video, I enjoy these shorter episodes just as much as the longer ones. Thanks for the "two of them" at the end, you never disappoint
@AnonymousFreakYT Жыл бұрын
12:30 - More than half of my zoom-capable '90s digicams have failed zoom motors, multiple of my late '00s/early '10s have also failed. That Minolta's manual zoom would be great, no power zoom to fail!
@Sevenigma777 Жыл бұрын
The fact you have two cats named after my favorite two noodles makes me love you just that much more lol
@jonfreeman9682 Жыл бұрын
Great retrospective on digital cameras. It was such a revolutionary time back in early 2000s when it came out. No more film development and print was a major breakthrough. Excellent video.
@AiOinc1 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That Toshiba really gives everything the "90s digital photo" look that I love so much. Is it a VGA camera, too? Funny, that looks like the same serial cable that came with TI-83 calculators. I wonder, will you ever get a hold of one of those cameras that goes on a Palm IIIc, like a Kodak PalmPix or something? I think that would be interesting to see on your channel and would fit your collection beautifully.
@CathodeRayDude Жыл бұрын
I'd very much like to!
@AiOinc1 Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude I'll keep an eye out for one at my thrift store. If I come across one for cheap I'll send it your way!
@app0the Жыл бұрын
I've had the same serial cord for one of my Casio pocket computers (not the Pocket PC ones, the ones that are a weird mishmash of a calculator, a QWERTY-keyboard and a fake C and fake assembler language in it alongside basic), as well as one of the Casio pocket memo thingies - I wonder if the pinouts are the same
@waytostoned Жыл бұрын
My Sony Clie NV80 has a built in camera that swivels, its a strange beast. Might be up your alley!
@henryatkinson1479 Жыл бұрын
Those flip-out PCMCIA connectors remind me of IBM's ChipCard line, basically a tiny little PDA that would fit into a PCMCIA slot to do data syncing and such. If I remember right they had single and double slot versions, the double slot variant folding open like a flip-phone.
@AndyDo Жыл бұрын
OK...when the PCMCIA thing whipped out, my jaw actually dropped. I physically went slack jawed. That's amazing.
@widicamdotnet Жыл бұрын
In Germany, the magazine ads for the Dimage V had a clever pun: "Die Minolta Linsen-Diät: einfach abnehmen!" - "The Minolta lentils diet: lose weight easily" or "The Minolta lens diet: simply take it off". I've been wondering ever since whether it was worth collecting. Good to know it isn't.
@MustachioFurioso9134 Жыл бұрын
I've seen so many ads for the LTT hoodie that I'd recognize it anywhere, pretty cool!
@misterkite Жыл бұрын
In the 90s I worked for a media lab, and we had a Quicktake 100. It saved to floppy, and we had an indexing tripod head to take panoramas with QTVR. It was the future!
@joncharlotteschoen11 ай бұрын
Same here. Design school. Quicktake 100. I was the student aid for the computer lab, so I got to play with everything.
@sp0ck1p Жыл бұрын
Something about that "applying myself" segue at the end was SO smooth. Fantastic.
@1D10CRACY Жыл бұрын
I had the Toshiba PDR 5 when it first came out. I purchased it at a CompUSA and at the time, it was a rather impressive camera! Chucking the camera into my laptop via the pcmcia port was kind of cool at the time! :D
@ataricom Жыл бұрын
Early digital camera sensors and compression algorithms were atrocious. My dad worked for the Chicago area power company from 1980-2004 and was ended up being one of the company's thermography experts in the 90s. Modern FLIR cameras can take both a visible and thermal image from roughly the same perspective to help identify hot spots. 25 years ago your need a purse-sized Kodak with the first generation CF cards, and if I remember right they only had a few cards readers that had to be shared between power stations. The thermal camera was something else entirely. I first used it in probably 96 or 97 (10-ish at the time) and it looked like the future and had a built in air conditioning system to keep the sensor cool.
@airborne2876 Жыл бұрын
I love the interesting angles you used in the studio! Makes your video that much more visually appealing!
@NigelMelanisticSmith Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it gives a nice backdrop, and the use of chroma key works very well
@draggonhedd Жыл бұрын
Man that toshiba is such an early 2000s internet vibe. Everything looked like that online. That fold out PCMCIA was GENIUS.
@matsv201 Жыл бұрын
Even more geius.. would be.. to just put the memory in a CF card... like everyone else did... and well, just put the card in the reader.
@draggonhedd Жыл бұрын
@@matsv201 ok Corporal Buzzkill
@Nabeelco Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Minolta's digital camera division was sold to Sony, and is where the Sony Alpha line of cameras came from. Now, Sony is the leading manufacturer of image sensors, bypassing pretty much everybody including Nikon and Canon. Their image sensors are used in everything from high end digital cameras (like those in the Sony Alpha, iPhone, and many other smartphones) to dash-cams and automotive cameras like those used in self-driving systems like Tesla Autopilot.
@Nabeelco Жыл бұрын
@cathoderaydude You've gotten successful enough for the scam bots to start targeting your videos! Congrats! 😂😅
@whatr0 Жыл бұрын
barely related, but at 5:20, you mentioned PCMCIA being exclusive to laptops, but I believe there were actually a few desktops in the late 90s to 2000s that included them. Notably, the eMachines eOne all-in-one Mac clone that got them sued had them believe it or not.
@CathodeRayDude Жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean you could also add it to your PC for $40 but nobody was going to design anything with those add-ons or rare standouts in mind, so functionally it was exclusive
@fluffycritter Жыл бұрын
There were also PCMCIA drive bays that were available for desktop computers.
@scottthomas3792 Жыл бұрын
The first digital camera I remember seeing was Xapshot back in the mid '80s...I think it took six monochrome photos, stored on a disk. ...it was demonstrated at a local mall, and I didn't get a very good look at it.
@Dunkelschunkel Жыл бұрын
Good old WAN hoodie from the ltt store. That bugged me quiete a bit, that feeling of seeing something familiar, not knowing what it is.
@Lastman737 Жыл бұрын
I love how you structure your videos. Straight out of the gate being interesting.
@fuelvolts Жыл бұрын
Woah Hard|OCP reference! I loved that forum and spent a lot of time there from about 98-07 or so.
@tehlaser Жыл бұрын
Almost skipped this one. Had no idea what was going on in the thumbnail. Glad I decided to watch it anyway. My father had one of those Sony Coolpix with the rotating lens/sensor/flash modules. It brought back some fun memories of taking photos on vacations when I was younger. He was exceptionally tall (nearly 7 ft) with long arms to match, so he could pull off some unbelievable shots holding the camera above his head.
@onyxtay7246 Жыл бұрын
This feels like a fever dream, because I felt sure that I had seen you do a video on a camera with a similar concept before. Edit: XD I'm remembering when you showed off the Minolta in the video about the Coolpix, which is just a brilliant video ouroboros.
@pabblo1 Жыл бұрын
That cat picture on the Minolta's storage reminds me of a picture I made with my webcam of a cat around 2005. (back then webcams were limited to 240p/288p/480p and could only take photos in at most 1024x768)
@tombuck Жыл бұрын
"Minolta In a Cup™" is a new game that's sweeping the nation!
@null_carrier Жыл бұрын
The most inspired script so far. Glad to see you in a good mood.
@DeathInTheSnow Жыл бұрын
God that opening line is basically a _"Not Stanley"_ monologue. :D
@MrET_Be_Youtubin Жыл бұрын
It's been a while since my recommended page has shown me your channel but the increase in quality and production value is INSANE keep it up! Been a long time supporter and glad to see you are doing well!!
@OnnieKoski Жыл бұрын
I gasped when you pulled out the phono to DE9 cable.
@DanielleWhite Жыл бұрын
The blue rendering of the uranium glass reminds me of how bad UV and Hot Mirrors were on early cameras. I remember photos that included items which were red hot and IR sensitivity caused it to render as green. I'll give the Toshiba engineers respect for that compact engineering. The corded extension use case reminds me of being in San Francisco years ago, walking across the Golden Gate Bridge, and getting a shot that involved holding my D800 facing upwards and at arms length between a cluster of suspender cables.
@sophist1cated Жыл бұрын
I had my first digital Camera back in 1998, Canon PowerShot A5. It had also no USB, but a seriell cable was equipped. Later on i bought a Sony DSC-F505. Memory Stick with 32MB was very expensive at this time, i paid 200 German Marks for it. The main issue was the limited storage space. For longer trips i take my notebook with me (Toshiba Libretto 50Ct) which i used for storage and exchanged the pictures via PCMCIA with a PCMCIA-Card Reader. I have still the pictures from those times.
@xliquidflames Жыл бұрын
I recently found a new old stock of a camera I had in 2000 made by Polaroid. It was a digital camera and MP3 player in one device. It is transparent so you can see the PCB inside but it's a transparent green color. It uses compact flash cards. Man I absolutely loved that camera and finding a new old stock one on eBay was such an exciting find. I paid _way_ too much for it but it was totally worth it. I loaned it to my 7 year old niece who has only ever known iPhones and tablets so she can experience the pain of having to take out a memory card and transfer the crappy pictures onto the computer that way. And the MP3 player on it is just absolutely awful to the point of being almost unusable. The headphone jack is in an awkward place. And imagine having to cary a camera around with you to listen to music while everyone else has their little iPod Minis and Shuffles. It's an absurd idea. Folks can keep their old Cannon and Nikon film cameras. I'll take a late 90s, early aughts digital camera over those any day.
@CathodeRayDude Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that was a rebranded version of the Kodak MC3? A friend sent me theirs, and yeah, it's a terrible camera and a terrible mp3 player
@xliquidflames Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude I'm not sure. But you're right. It is terrible at both but I loved it. It is quintessential 2000s.
@xliquidflames Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude I looked up the MC3 and it looks totally different from the Polaroid MP3.
@xliquidflames Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude I tweeted a photo at you. :)
@thomasrogers5852 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried plugging that PCMCIA camera into a Linux box? I've found several times that Linux keeps drivers for things that stopped being relevant years ago, so it's my go to for any weird old hardware that Windows "can't use the original drivers" (planned obsolescence anyone?). It's worth a try anyway, and not hard at all to install anymore.
@dunebasher1971 Жыл бұрын
It's not "planned obsolescence", it's simply a waste of time and money getting developers to update specialist drivers for long-obsolete hardware that barely anybody will ever want to use on a modern OS.
@artempylypchuk4140 Жыл бұрын
@@dunebasher1971 you're right, it's not "planned obsolescence" more like "changing the design too often, no backwards compatibility and a hidden agenda". Drivers subsystem in Windows got drastically changed several times (remember non-WDM drivers, anyone? then XP/Vista/Win8-10 incompatibilities?), and building them was not easy to learn, unless you probably partnered with M$ to babysit you through shitty documentation and SDKs - which explains why only expensive products had good drivers or still have up-to-date drivers. As for "planned obsolescence" - I have a network HP office printer/scanner/copier which was acquired as e-waste because it doesn't work with any newer Windows and the website claims "it should work with any Windows later than Vista", but it doesn't. What do you say about it, isn't it HP pushing new printers? Guess what, it still does the job - prints papers, and even graphics like charts and logos; that's the only things I need it for anyway, like once or twice a year. Linux distros also have drivers disabled for really obsolete hardware, but take any kernel version old or new - and all of them can be built (enabled in configuration) and would work like charm. And not because driver coding model hasn't evolved, but because it was built right from the start and then only improved through mostly non-breaking changes. And it wasn't hard to learn, because it's open-source. Imagine, you have a super-rare PC or a fancy Mac G5 or even something like DEC Alpha or POWER or Sun Sparc (those are beefy even by today's standards - I mean 32GB RAM server for $100? and later, Sun/Oracle they had 512GB and 1/2/4TB RAM models too, but those aren't dirt-cheap yet, but they will be). Imagine, you want to run it with newest software and to its power limit - you can do all that with Linux! Btw, I did see something about "old Minolta cameras" in the kernel config, so it might actually work. To be completely honest, there's also quirks to it; for example, while you can get e.g. an old Creative Labs shitty 640x480 webcam to work, you'll need more than just drivers to use it, because introduction of UVC changed a lot in software too. That probably applies to this weird PCMCIA camera, you might need to find some odd software which could be incompatible with your current desktop environment (or would take some work to integrate) and would not show up as a normal camera.
@daemonspudguy Жыл бұрын
@@artempylypchuk4140so, in other words, they're there in the Linux kernel because there was never a reason to remove them, because drivers on Linux have been the same since basically forever.
@ellenorbjornsdottir116611 ай бұрын
Linux plans on trashing PC Card
@FranNyan Жыл бұрын
See, I had a late 90s digicam (gotten 2nd hand in 2001) that used compact flash and because my dad built PCs as a hobby, I had a card reader as part of my PC tower. The thought that most prebuilts just... didn't have those things never occurred to me...
@AaronOfMpls Жыл бұрын
Later pre-builts definitely did, though. My 2007 and 2012 PC towers both had memory card readers for SD/MMC, Sony Memory Stick, Compact Flash, and xD/Smart Media.
@FranNyan Жыл бұрын
@@AaronOfMpls I think by the time SD and microSD were becoming standard, so too were built in readers. It's that liminal space between early adopters and mass usage that I think most of these early digicams fell into.
@klikini Жыл бұрын
I noticed what looks like a tripod mount on the lens end of the extension cable and got a hilarious mental image of the tiny thing alone on a full size tripod.
@PositionLight Жыл бұрын
BNSF #2553 is a rebuilt EMD GP30's originally constructed in the early 1960's. Nice catch!
@radiozelaza Жыл бұрын
What kind of devilish HDR trickery is that opening footage?!
@radiozelaza Жыл бұрын
Oh, the GoPro... should've known
@tlhIngan Жыл бұрын
SmartMedia was anything but. It is just raw NAND flash. No controller or anything - it was raw NAND. Now, the SmartMedia specification did specify how you used that NAND flash (which was incompatible with most NAND formats around at the time) because obviously if you didn't specify how you used the pages and blocks and spare area, you'd easily end up with devices that couldn't share the memory card (without a controller, the physical layout of the memory needed to be specified). In fact, the Rio PMP300, one of the early MP3 players, used SmartMedia cards in a proprietary way which meant you had to "reformat" them for use in the Rio (the software it came with did this for you). Unfortunately, once you did this, you couldn't use it in any other device as you'd lose the control information you needed to format it. There were third party software that could reformat them back to normal use though. Finally, because it was raw NAND, there were ATA controllers for it - basically any CompactFlash card had a CompactFlash (a pin-reduced form of PCMCIA) to NAND controller on it, and SmartMedia was raw NAND. So with a little firmware you could easily create a SmartMedia to PCMCIA adapter using nothing more than what already existed at the time.
@JessicaFEREM Жыл бұрын
18:30 that acually sounds really cool. idk if it would last much longer, but that sounds like a cool effect
@theothertonydutch Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how bad that manual zoom is, but I generally don't care about powered zoom at all. I recall older cameras like that not giving you the feeling like you're that much in control, and yes, it saves cost and there's less that can break. Seems generally a net positive for me. On the remote control/detachable lens thingamajig, my Olympus E-PL9 (and I know it isn't unique) can use wifi with my phone, which is handy for remote control. Especially because the screen turns down for "selfie mode" which is a problem when you're on a bipod. I am actually considering getting a second (used) phone just so I can use it as a controller with all the touch options. It's pretty handy to have an external monitor/controller for these types of things.
@ellenorbjornsdottir116611 ай бұрын
19:49 An option this gives you is to light from your vantage point, and to shoot from another vantage point. This could be useful for really overexposed low-key lighting.
@MissMTurner Жыл бұрын
Your kitties are adorable!
@carlklitzke9455 Жыл бұрын
The Casio QV-10 from 1996 or so had a pivoting image sensor, so it was like a tiny version of the Sharp Handycam. No flash, not even removable storage.
@scottlarson1548 Жыл бұрын
Transferring your photos via serial gave you some minutes of anticipation as the photos you took that day *slowly* appeared on your PC screen. Folks these days wouldn't understand that seeing photos you took that day was like magic.
@ROKNRED Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a digital camera was early December 1996. I was at a party, and someone had just gotten it. I went to the Future Shop in Yakima the next day, and plopped down a few hundred to pick up a brand new Casio QV-10A. WOW! Images without film or other superfluous video capture devices from an NTSC signal... It was a game changer. Then, in 2000, I shelled out for an Olympus Camedia E-10. wow...
@evanspaulding672 Жыл бұрын
Love the new studio setup, the slides and transition are clean, man your channel just keeps getting better each upload!
@panqueque445 Жыл бұрын
"This had the misfortune of being made in the 90s" It's just like me fr fr
@cowboyfrankspersonalvideos8869 Жыл бұрын
My first digital point and shoot was a Cascio QV-10 purchased March 9, 1996 for $627. I believe it was the first consumer digital camera on the market. It produced a 240x360 pixel image, had no memory card so the only way to get the photos off it was a serial cable. If you removed the batteries, or they ran down, you would loose all your photos. I now use a Nikon D-800. Amazing advancements in the last 26 years.
@joncharlotteschoen11 ай бұрын
LOVE these videos. Takes me back to the (not so great) dinosaur age of digital photography. When I was in school for graphic design (95-97) we had an Apple Quicktake camera, which I believe did 0.3Mp images. Yep. 0.3. But it's all there was at the time, we thought it was amazing. I love how everything back then was so proprietary and just... odd.
@goodnightmilk3047 Жыл бұрын
Your videos continue to grow in quality and never get old!! Loving it!
@isellstolenchainsaws Жыл бұрын
I have a Toshiba PDR-2 kicking around with my collection of cameras. Has a whopping 2MB SmartMedia card and the cool PCMCIA insertable part. No flash, small screen just for image count, one single CR123 battery, 640x480 images with either (fine)8:1 or (standard)16:1 compression. The person I got the PDR-2 and ThinkPad 380XD had said he originally bought them together as a bundle at the time in 97-98
@Vegeta8300 Жыл бұрын
I love that your cats are Soba and Udon. Our cat is Sushi and our dog was Sake... great minds and all that lol.
@champa224 Жыл бұрын
My man managed to reference an obscure, Japanese only, Playstation art game. I love it!
@random832 Жыл бұрын
I think the dithering pattern at 13:13 is some kind of debayering algorithm - compensating for the fact that the actual sensor has a grid of red, green, and blue square subpixels by having each pixel just directly borrow the value of an adjacent pixel for the subchannels it doesn't have Modern cameras have bigger sensors and more sophisticated algorithms but ultimately have to do the same thing.
@Sarksus Жыл бұрын
Great video. Photo and video cameras are probably my favorite technologies as far as their history goes, maybe besides TVs. It’s just astounding how many different features and designs were tried. Anything was on the table it seems! It helps that they often had a flood of tantalizing buttons across their surface.
@Agnes.Nutter11 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh! I had a Toshiba camera as a kid with that same functionality, and I never knew what that was for 😱 Awesome, and thank you!
@ajroach42 Жыл бұрын
That was fun! The format worked well, and the footage was enjoyable.
@K3NnY_G Жыл бұрын
The Minotla turns any artificially lit photo into a deep fried meme and I honestly appreciate that. xD
@RedRamzor Жыл бұрын
Happy new year! I wanted to submit a small correction on the Venice. Typically the Rialto with a lens and matte box aren't really heavy enough to counter balance the "sled" on a steadicam. Most operators prefer more weight on the camera vs lighter builds. When shooting with the Red Raptor or Komodo we usually slap a shark fin to add another battery for more weight/hot swapping capabilities. You usually use the Rialto system for head mounted pov style shots, talent mounted shots, out anything where you need to whip the camera around quickly for handheld style shots.
@CathodeRayDude Жыл бұрын
Oh, huh! I swear steadicam usage came up as a bullet point when I was investigating the system but I can't find it now. I must have been looking at the specs for the Venice itself?
@RedRamzor Жыл бұрын
If you're ever curious on how steadicam operators like their builds a buddy of mine, Myles Shank, did a video on how 1st assistant camera should design their builds. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y61me9d1s9y9l4E.html
@RedRamzor Жыл бұрын
The standard Venice is pretty common to see on set and often goes up on steadicam. Used it on a job a few weeks ago and it's for sure a chonker. You pair that up with a Cinema zoom and you can end up with over 40 lbs of camera. I've seen steadicam ops move with it like it was light as a feather, those people have some serious core strength.
@RedRamzor Жыл бұрын
I believe Hardcore Henry was shot on the Venice Rialto. That's like it's perfect use case.
@RedRamzor Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude Wanted to circle back again here. Frame Voyager just released a video on the Rialto that is a great watch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7-RlqR8sNfRc6s.html
@camghan Жыл бұрын
the go to man for all vintage cameras, sidenote i found a sharp hi8 at a goodwill for cheap, very funky.
@MBroam Жыл бұрын
I used to have one of those headphone to serial cables to connect an old Radio Shack scanner to PC. It was weird, but it worked!
@paulmurgatroyd6372 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I can see how some people would like the immediate response from a manual zoom, rather than the often clunky motorised versions.
@amyshaw893 Жыл бұрын
I actually really like the aesthetic of the slightly cronky minulta pictures, and the extension lead is great. Might have to look out for one on ebay
@Outstralian Жыл бұрын
I really love the photo at 19:05 for some reason. It's good enough to be printed and framed if the resolution is okay enough.
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
I love these cameras. A school friend’s dad was very techie, had early wifi, a PDA with a stylus and a wifi card, and an expensive digital point and shoot. He was talking in 2002 or 2003 about how they finally rival film in picture quality now that they’re over a million pixels, instead of VGA or perhaps 800x600. He also talked at length about how he would’ve spent more on film than he did on the cameras with the number of pictures he’d taken, probably to convince himself he liked it better than film!
@henrickbull Жыл бұрын
My god, I love the Toshiba's particular weirdness with it's sensor, color, and the over all aesthetic. Gives me that Lo-Fi backrooms vibe and I'm here for it.
@super0sonic Жыл бұрын
These are some interesting cameras. But what’s really interesting is those sold cat pictures. Someone took those photos over 20 years ago of their cat and now it’s been seen by over 50k people.
@LinusTechTips Жыл бұрын
Nice hoodie.
@leap123_5 ай бұрын
linus?????
@rastas_42215 ай бұрын
Booo
@letsgoballistic Жыл бұрын
I honestly think It's a miracle digital camera's caught on with the general consumer as quickly as they did. Especially since digital point and shoot camera's only really surpassed film point and shoots in overall image quality in the early to mid 2010's imo.
@Finallybianca Жыл бұрын
Nice wan show hoodie. By the way those 737 bodies all travel right through Lincoln Ne just a few blocks from my house. It’s cool to see them go by.
@tekvax01 Жыл бұрын
Lens extension cable... Look up the Elmo remote head camera CCU. I have a couple of these at work. The news department use to use them as hidden story cameras, with a big battery and a little composite VTR.
@WetDoggo Жыл бұрын
2:54 fun fact: the U92 glass converts UV radiation into a visible wavelength. The camera seems to lack an UV filter, picks up the UV wavelength and represents it as blue. That also means there's lots of UV in the display. (display as in showing stuff behind glass (physically showing real items))
@CathodeRayDude Жыл бұрын
What bugs me though is, sure, maybe it's picking up the UV, but that doesn't explain where the green went. The green in reality is so intense, I can't figure out why I'm not seeing a mix of green and blue.
@WetDoggo Жыл бұрын
@@CathodeRayDude The camera adjusted it's exposure for the high amount of UV light. Since the green light is just a small fraction it gets overshadowed by the UV and lacks from the image. That must also mean the green you can see was pretty intense. There's nothing weird going on because fluorescence of the uranium glass is at around 530nm, it should be very similar in every piece but the amount can vary. the way i know this stuff is: I'm a photographer and educated in chemistry and physics (and other scientific topics that don't apply here). Meaning, I understand the underlying physics and how the camera picks up the varying amounts of light. Although I cannot 100% exclude the possibility of the camera's software being weird, I'm highly certain this result is because the camera is picking up way more UV light than the fluorescence is providing. if you are still not sure, think about it in this way: You point your camera to the sun and expose for it, the surrounding sky doesn't just disappear, it is just very underrepresented in the final picture.
@quite1enough Жыл бұрын
if anyone wonders - Minolta was bought by Sony DSLR period of Sony cameras (when they had A-mount) was straight from Minolta ones
@ThisSteveGuy Жыл бұрын
The joke in the late 90s about USB was that it was the "Useless Serial Bus" because for a good while back then, it wasn't used for anything.
@uzetaab15 күн бұрын
I worked in a computer store and I started seeing USB ports on computers something like 2-3 years before I even knew what USB was. Early roll out and adoption was slow and quiet. I don't remember what the first device I had was, but it was probably something like a mouse. Maybe an optical one?
@Sam-sl5zv Жыл бұрын
My weirdest "digital" camera is a Casio Board Copy CP-1000. It doesn't store the pictures, but instead prints them out with its onboard 8.5x11 large format thermal printer. I have never seen another one and they seem to be insanely rare even online.
@ForTheBirbs Жыл бұрын
Some awesome quality there! Yep, two of them! Happy New Year
@edh615 Жыл бұрын
I kinda like the color reproduction of some of these early digital cameras, probably because it was referenced to film cameras, then they started comparing them to digital references and some of the appeal of film colors were lost.
@brigganthewolf1461 Жыл бұрын
I have two Sony DSC-T1's, and a T5 on the way (there are various other models) with a sliding lens cover. I know it's not really unique, but it's still a very clever way to protect the lens. There's no worry about breaking the lens cap or barrel or anything like that. The things you do have to worry about though is the glue containing iodine in the CCD sensor package, basically evaporating and rendering the CCD unusable. This was the case with the T1, T3, T11 and T33 models which most of them suffer from this same issue. The other models I'd avoid are the newer T7, T2, T50, T500 and other various T-series models from 2007 and newer, as they have a steady shot EV stabilizer that tends to fail with time, making the image blurry, and it's a PITA to repair (you have to remove the CCD and poke your tweezers into the lens assembly trying not to scratch any of the lenses). The only models that don't seem to have any technical issues suggesting a recall would be the T5 and T7 as they don't have steadyshot, and they were made after the CCD recall. I just ordered a T5 untested, it's quite scratched up but should work no problem considering it's one of Sony's most reliable subcompact cameras. By this point I've got nothing to lose. The TX models should be fine as they feature optical steadyshot, to some extent. I haven't heard of any people have issues with theirs. I just got a TX100V and it's working great, just some nitpicks here and there that dither from me liking it more.
@FAR2G Жыл бұрын
Oh hey. A new video from Gravis. This makes the holidays somewhat less shitty. But seriously - thank you.
@jon-paulfilkins7820 Жыл бұрын
90's digital cameras, if you struggled with film formats like 110, then even the low quality ones were a revelation!
@DannyBeans Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Pot Roast is Slam Beefchest's cat.
@LokiScarletWasHere Жыл бұрын
I have an idea as to why the uranium glass showed up as blue on the toshiba. Lots of old cameras that had decent sensitivity picked up UV as blue light and IR as red or white light. If its green sensors sucked and the wavelength of the green wasn't just right, it would pick up more UV than green by far, and all you'd see is blue. Though, I don't have a camera that old to demonstrate with, so take that with a grain of salt. Edit: Oh right, also the average wavelength between UV-A and green is blue, so some constructive/destructive interference between UV and green viewed by a sensor that can see UV, whether that be a bug or a feature, would also show as blue in theory.