Thank god for em too!

It really depends on what part of Montana you’re in. “Fake” Montana such as Missoula or bozeman, with the infiltration of out of staters who come from big cities, are tainting the Montana culture. At least the ones that have no intention of assimilation.

I’m definitely carrying extra fuel, tools, and whatnot with me on my trips into the backcountry on my UTV so I can hopefully pay back the debt I’ve accrued on this one!

I’m happy to hear that! Most people who follow my channel could care less about my off-roading adventures unless I’m taking the truck through it. Trying to expand a bit to more than just truck camper specific videos. Thanks for watching!

Love u too. Everything is right as rain at the moment.

I am honored to give you content, sir.

Glad to hear that!

Certainly do get lucky with being unlucky sometimes!

Thank you!

You’re welcome!

1/4” from quadruple repair costs minimum!

Thank you kindly

Yeah it kinda sucked but it was a great place to break down at least! Yeah I will definitely meet up with Kenny again when i make my way back to Minnesota. Not sure when, but it’ll definitely happen. Much like mushrooms, he’s a fun guy.

@@downbytheriver501 lol I think maybe you read that wrong.

@@worklessenjoylifemore I’m a bit lost. 🙃 is it the calibration typo instead of collaboration ? Hold my hand through this one buddy!

@@downbytheriver501 oh sorry I didn’t even notice that misspelling. I just meant that the three of us should do a collaboration haha

@@worklessenjoylifemore I'm down! Please give me a reason to take three weeks off work! I'll take Arizona in the winter or Montana in the fall. Let me know fellers!

Dang I never thought about mounting them from the other side! Thanks for the tip. That would really help when I need to throw on a spare and it doesn’t have the appropriate backspacing

Will do thanks!

I was about 1/4” from it being a much larger issue! If I would’ve stopped another 5’ later, my wheel would’ve likely fallen off and my rotor would’ve beared the brunt of thousands of lbs.

Thanks!

Thanks man! And thanks very much for helping me get back on the road

I am very fortunate that this situation happened where it did, yes! If this happened where I’m at now it would be a lot more complicated.

Thank you sir!

Yep, rim was totally destroyed. The holes where the studs go through we’re bored out to almost twice their size. Have you had any issues with wheel studs breaking? Because that was a precursor to this event. My mechanic told me I shouldn’t run lug centric wheels on my rig when I have this much weight even though method boasts 4500 lbs per wheel rating. I was at maybe 3700.

@@downbytheriver501 I have not had any issues with the lug's backing off. I just checked them this morning when I left my campsite. We were about 30 miles South of the Canadian border. Everything was tight. I have not had a lug loosen up on me, and I have not had any wheel studs break. I was running wheel spacers on my original steel wheels before the method rims.They were not hub centric.I've not had any issues, knock on wood. I could definitely see how the hub Centric wheel would support the weight better than a non hub centric. I probably have 40000 miles on these rims. I do rotate and balance every 8000 miles. I will keep a closer eye on them. I bought the Tires and wheels at discount tire. They told me it was very important with these rims to re-torque the lug nuts 75 miles after every rotate balance

@@KennyOfAllTrades yep. I think it may just be a ram thing. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if the OEM wheel studs are weak.

Wow buddy those were some sketchy Situations!

I should’ve just fashioned some new wheel studs out of JB weld. What was I thinking!? Also, yeah. That trail would be pretty fun on a dirt bike. I am really regretting not bringing my TW with me to Colorado cause although the UTV is fun…it’s not as fun as a dual sport/dirt bike. I’m in the process right now of trying to find a tenere 700 because I want to get into ADV. Hitting the road/trail for a week or two in September just to experience a new way of traveling light, fast, and “cheap”.

@@downbytheriver501 Hey Vic if you want light, somewhat fast, cheap, great mpg and be able to go more off the off roads and pack what you need to camp this may be more to your liking and, when, not if, you lay it down it's lighter to pick up, Tenere is a bit of a hand full to up right..and you'll never use all its 700cc power...just sayin' kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbqIbKWYrbqlZ2w.html That Honda 300 Rally would make it up to Top of The World, the Tenere to heavy for that ride. My 235lb KTM 200 > kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJeUmth7utGaZ4U.html

@@gastonbelanger5346 yeah I’m not really looking to do technical single track with the tenere. I mean, I will…but not for the most part. I may eventually invest in a Ktm/honda 300 2 stroke at some point but at the moment, I just really want to get into the adventure sport life and I think the midsized tenere is where it’s at as far as capabilities, simplicity, and rock solid reliability.

@@downbytheriver501 I'll be looking forward to your adventures...remember, the faster you go the safer it is...may the Motocross God's be with you.

@@gastonbelanger5346 and may the gyroscopic forces be with you also.

Hahah, I ran out of beer on day 3 and wasn’t able to acquire any for the next 4. It was slightly rough but I made due!

@@downbytheriver501 Ouch…4 days! 😞 Need to keep back stock in the trailer to circumvent any future rehydration crisis’ 🍻

It’s pretty new territory for me too! Unfortunately I had to learn of this through these circumstances. Although admittedly, I can’t draw any conclusions for the actual failure for this setup. Method was kind enough to resupply me with a new wheel and cover the costs for the installation…which is commendable for them to do so.

Thanks buddy! I have also heard through a good friend of mine that the black rhinos are also hub centric. Not sure of the load capacity though. Thanks for watching and the compliments buddy!

Yeah it’s apparently a real hot topic issue. My mechanic said he’s seen this happen 3 times now. One of the times I saw the actual carnage of what happens when your wheel falls off with a truck camper at highway speeds. Guy somehow managed to it crash but entire right rear was destroyed. I did contact method and they rush delivered a replacement for me which is pretty awesome, but that still only grazes the overall cost of what this situation was.

@@downbytheriver501 I was happy to see the Deputy getting his hands dirty. I love seeing LE getting involved to help people in any situation.

@@kennyc1032 me too. He is a great guy. We BS’d for hours.

Heh, thanks buddy!

Yep same setup as me. I’ve been busting studs ever since I got the wheels. Im very concerned and will be upgrading to some hub centric wheels ASAP. Method did replace my wheel for free though. Which is nice but also makes me wonder if they’re trying to keep me and others who’ve experienced the dangers of lug centric wheels quiet.

@@downbytheriver501 oh boy, please let me know what u find as a replacement. I do have timbrens which puts some weight on the axle but I can't be busting studs like that. I thought something was off last time I rotated tires I had two busted studs and thought....wtf?

@@NomadicNorthwoods my mechanic buddy told me that black rhino has high capacity rims that are hub centric so I may go that route.

@@downbytheriver501 I know we can buy hub centric rings to solve this too......much cheaper??? As effective? Not sure. Were they improperly torked and that caused it? Doubtful if it's common......

It’s not the offset. It’s the fact they’re not hub centric!

@@downbytheriver501 Do the spacers lessen the load you're able to carry?

@@alaska-bornfloridaman no, the load on a lug centric wheel is carried through the wheel stud. On a hub centric wheel, the load is carried into the hub, the much stronger option. I was reassured by the manufacturer of these wheels that this type of wheel is plenty strong, but I’m going to heed the advice of my mechanic, albeit a bit too late, and find an aftermarket wheel that actually is hub centric. One way to strengthen the weak spot(the wheel studs) is to get these spacers called “centric rings” which will then transfer the load back onto the hub on a lug centric rim but they don’t make them for 8 lug wheels, from what I’ve heard.

@@downbytheriver501 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6pifbKQntKuaWQ.html

@@downbytheriver501 if you find something let me know. I'll put them on. Sounds like that would resolve the issue

Thanks! I spell her name Zeda.

I’m not sure what that is? About a year and a half ago I had to have my whole rear end fixed because the E-brake broke and destroyed the internals of the hub?

@@downbytheriver501 ok got it I didn’t realize the parking Brake set up uses brake shoes and inside of the hub assembly. Learn something new every day. Safe Travels

No sir it was not!

Yep! Just super busy the channel had to take a back seat to life unfortunately. I want to make a video but it’s just so time consuming. I’ll make one again someday soon though. Sorry to keep ya waiting.

@@downbytheriver501 it’s all good brother. Just wanted to make sure you were OK.

@@noneya61 thanks for checking in on me I appreciate that 😃

Hey ya found me! Shoot me a message vicdownbytheriver@yahoo.com and I’ll give ya my digits. Had an awesome time hanging out with y’all.