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Excuse me? What about teletubbies

Easily

I mostly agree, visually speaking I think it's his best work without a doubt. I never really got the impression Snyder fully appreciated what Alan Moore was trying to say with these characters though.

Are you serious?

People are dumb. This movie is amazing.

It's lack of name recognition, good promotion, long run-time, adult themes and many other things, I'm sure. people in mass go to action films, about 90 minutes, and are more likely to go see a sequel or a well-known franchise, usually go with families/friends and will avoid movies rated R to be inclusive of younger people in the group or to avoid "uncomfortable" topics.

Well it was before the superhero movie boom. So a large part of the satire didn’t work for a general audience. So it’s just a bunch of bad superheroes. I get why that wouldn’t appeal to people. Throw in the fans that don’t think this is a good representation of the comic and you have a formula for a movie not faking off.

By this time, Nolan's Batman came and MCU was starting.

It was rated R, historically they do worse box office wise. That's why a lot of studios try to aim for PG-13 or lower; luckily that's changing.

millions of religious ppl believe that some"thing" exists... :D ;)

​@@JokerInk-CustomBuildsso do atheists since they never miss an opportunity to insult others beliefs. But really they are anti-theist since they oppose beliefs instead of simply carrying on as if said beliefs didn't exist.

he seems like a bored celestial

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@@Belnick6666 yeah but think about it.. if u had that power what would excite u anymore? maybe space traveling... he knows everything and can do anything always... sex or traveling family etc would b meaningless .... u would just be...

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Yeah just to keep the movie from being 5 hours long Snyder was forced to hurry through a lot of these including Rorschach and the psychiatrist.

Unless it was done as a TV show I don’t think it would really be possible to play out the psychiatrist scenes in full length…they could also add in tales of the black freighter

Interesting. I’ve only seen the movie but I read Doomsday Clock and they reference the psychiatrist because his son plays a prominent role in the comics. Gotta read the original.

“Care about the story” Where? The movie only cared about the visuals of the book but not the meaning of the themes, characters, and story. The movie made an incel character from the book into a heroic figure and made watchmen heroes seem superhuman every time they fight someone when it isn’t like that in the book. The book they are supposed to be regular people.

@@americasteam2112 Why you want the movie to be just like the book. Frankly it's nonsense, the fact of wanting it to be exactly like in the book. A lot of people haven't read the books and just want a decent movie whose story they understand. Regarding the fact that they apparently have superhuman strength, they are superheroes and it's a fantasy world. Manhattan alone is a mind-blowing character. If you like the book so much, well, stick with the book and just imagine how it could be. The guy made his film, you don't like it, too bad for you. Many others liked this movie.

He doesn’t kill them, he teleports them away to the parking lot. A. The blue dust is the same after-effect from every teleportation he does before and after this B. the teleportation “shockwave” energy ring flies directly at the camera and the specific sound effect is winding down as the empty studio comes into view. C. the bald agent that later interrogates Laurie and she assaults was right next to him trying to shield him from the reporters when it happened, so he didn’t die clearly

There are two Extended cuts to this film. One with the deleted scenes (Ultimate) and the other one with those and the Black Freighter comic book animated story (Extended).

@@AleksPizana the ultimate cut is the one with the animated black freighter story added in. At least my blu ray with the black freighter says “the ultimate cut” on it and has a skull and crossed swords on the yellow pin logo rather than the smiley face.

You saved me some typing.

Silf Spectre is based on Nightshade.

Had Watchmen been published just a few years later, it would have been under the Elseworlds imprint and featured the actual Charlton characters. DC published alternative versions of their characters all the time by the late Eighties, but it was still a new concept in 1985.

​@@wtk6069 I much prefer it this way, with original characters having no connected with the wider DC Universe.

Funny how they're all arguably better than the characters they copied, especially Rorschach

Couldn't agree more. I would love to see them watch the series. It's really great! I recommend it to everyone

@@GeneralWAITE Same, would love a reaction to the series!!

The show was woke bullshit that had absolutely nothing to do with the original. It was garbage.

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​@@LordDarshdan I literally just did... You're commenting on it...

I thought the show was so much better then the movie

Nah I’m good 😊

@@LordDarshdansaid a lot of people

Yup - the psychic squid worked fine in the comic book but would have been too much for the movie - Zac needed to simplify it and it worked fine.

I like having the "cause" be Dr Manhattan, since he's been a known "god" for decades now, and after decades of showing little to no emotion, the last people saw of him was screaming in rage. It feels like a more concrete reason for people to rally together, to me.

@@geetee4459 Kind of ironic that James Gunn made it work* in The Suicide Squad with Starro the giant Starfish as the big alien threat. *But not with me. I thought it was pretty ridiculous tbh...

@@noneofyourbeeswax01two wildly different movies made by two very different directors with almost no relation to each other, other than big fish monster 🤣

The end of the original Mad Max movie (1979) has the bad guy being given a choice between burning or cutting of his own hand too. Mad max was several years before the Watchmen comic book was written. I haven’t seen Saw but if the same killing method was used in Mad Max and Saw that’s probably why Snyder changed it.

@Anonnermooseur mom sucks

I know it’s a little sac-religious but the ending of the movie honestly made more sense to me (having read the original) And was definitely more sinister

@@edgarcardenas1777 It was better than what transpired in the comics. The giant alien squid thing was pretty stupid IMO in the comics, and frankly Alan Moore is a legend in his own mind.

⁠@@alucard624personally, i think that having this god that could kill all of them whenever he wants but he’s choosing not to for some reason makes less sense to me than this interdimensional squid attack that could happen anytime and anyplace as they have almost no knowledge on it. yes the squid is pretty goofy, but i think the choice of this secondary cause than it being a god just deciding not to kill them all when he 100% could is the better choice. but i 100% understand the choice for manhattan to be the cause in this movie and i still lowkey love this movie.

Pretty sure you mean the twist since both the movie and the comic has the same ending.

Race baiting show. Please read the truth about Tulsa, lol.

I thought it was a decent watch but I don’t think it’s nearly at the level of the original graphic novel (which it’s a sequel to, not the movie)

Not just gunned down, she was raped, tortured and beaten before being killed. All while the "innocent" citizens stood by and *watched.* That really fucked Rorschach up. They didn't just refuse to help her, but even watched her suffer the inhumanity.

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Too bad he doesn't like the movie or the show.

I fell asleep in the movie theater. But this is one of my favorite movies of all times. I’ve watched it so many times, I lost count. But every time I rewatch, I pick up something new. It’s really just a perfect, sophisticated movie

Just read the comic. Way better. The movie misses the mark of the story.

crazy that Zack Snyder always said the movie could never be done, then he found out what the studio was doing it and if you read into the changes the studio was going to do like having Rorschach be a good person hero type that wins in the end.. it's no wonder he stepped in.

However, the world wouldn't need to get tired of waiting for another squid alien attack. Governments would have one heck of an incentive to learn as much as possible about the monster. And it wouldn't take them long to figure out that it was bio-engineered on Earth. There would realistically be no way for Veidt to create a completely original life from with a completely alien biochemistry, complete with a multi-billion year faked evolutionary history. Veidt needed the alien to live long enough to send out its psychic attack. So he needed an actual living being. Which means he'd have to go with what we know works, and that's Terrestrial biochemistry. Which in turn means that anyone analyzing the remains of the squid monster would rapidly realize that it's not actually an alien. And at that point Veidt's plan falls apart with the world's governments blaming an American and probably by extension the American government, for everything, even without Rorschach having kneecapped Veidt's grand plan by giving his journal to a newspaper. With the movie's version of the ending, I'd think people might get a bit suspicious about who actually did the deed once Veidt starts introducing so many wonderful new technologies based on replicating Dr. Manhattan's powers. It's not like Veidt was ever very shy about letting the world know he has a messiah complex.

I basically consider the HBO Watchmen series to be in it's own separate universe where the 2009 Watchmen movie was a direct adaptation of the graphic novel (including the giant alien squid), and the series in a modern continuation of that reality's timeline.

@@rushmaverick1923 like most modern satire, its a series created by idiots who missed the point of the source material, and instead co-opted the brand to push their own bullshit narrative and agenda.

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@@Shiirow boohoo no politics in my watchmen is probably the most retarded take possible

That part it's on the 3.35hrs movie version which includes all the deleted scenes, along with the Black Freighter comic animated comic book. Doomsday Clock is a continuation to this story, written by Geoff Johns (Infinite Crisis, Blackest Night, Flashpoint, New 52, Rebirth... etc) . It was meant to incorporate the Watchmen to the DC main universe.

Huh ... it was indeed 4 to 6 years ago ... and I thought Doomsday Clock is older (at most early 2000s) ... interesting =O

@@BestAnimeFreak maybe you're confusing it with "Before watchmen"? It was a series of graphic novels published by DC set in the watchmen universe that came out in the early 2000s

The actor actually voiced Optimus Primal in the OG Beast Wars show, took me a sec to figure it out then I was like OHHHHHHH

@@dannyboy6947 oh so that was Gary Chalk??

@@B1PFilms It was!

what timestamp?

The HBO series could have been great, if it weren’t so swallowed up by trying to deliver a message first and a good story second

Nope

Facts they should have watched this version first

I don't think so. Movie is easily still miles better. There's more weight to this movie and the story telling is way grounded. The show was amazing as well But it's not as memorable as the movie was.

Lmao not it’s started maybe better it ended shit especially with its shit message

Exactly

Because the script itself is written by David hayter, the movie supposed to have him as rosharch but the project failed because director and producer thought its too dark and unfilmable. Not until David hayter watch 300 and approach snyder to direct this movie. Snyder Who also fans of alan moore said David hayter is far from rosharch in term of looks so he pick Jackie earle haley as rosharch

Ew