Just look at what I said at 14:53 lol

@@slimeghost103 lol

actually tho

Like everyone, multitasking and men, my brain almost exploded.

Was this confirmed? I know a lot of people speculated this but was she actually credited?

@@lambiepie6436 Yes

@@lambiepie6436 in the end credits, in the 'Vocals by' of the ending song

Joanne Hogg and Joanna Hogg seem to get mistaken for all the time it seems....

me too ;-;

I doubt its truly the end, just the end of the arc

Yeah, but you're so correct!! 😭

I doubt this will be the last we'll see of them... they'll probably keep appearing in future titles, but just not in main roles. We have yet to meet Mythra's child after all.

@@eliasacevedo5711 As long as Adam Howland lives, he must be shulk… he’s just so cool! Shulk can’t be gone from the series!

The scene itself is different in Japanese, it was pretty poorly translated, at least in English.

​@@MugenHeadNinja the mistranslation doesn't fail it's job. It leaves out M in some sentences. But it doesn't misinterpret. The English translation emphasises Ghondors defience. The Japanese translation emphasises it was Ghondors choice.

I think that still comes across in the English version. The way the English voice actor says "But you told me to make friends", using Mum over Mother, it's clear part of him never left those woods. Overall, it's also my favorite scene in the whole DLC.

I felt it in the voice. And its realistic, people stay children their whole life when it comes to their parents and old Ghondor had to swallow a lot of things since childhood. Cruel scene. Still at the same time his age and wisdom was there too, as he took the responsibility and tried to stop his dad and gave his life for his grandchildren and lecturing his father to get some sense into him (which must have been hurtful). Also Mio arriving at the scene.. god.

I love this so much But I wanna see them so bad ;-;

I think its that, and other bonds people made between the worlds that merged them, like an ouroboros interlink

And then that blue shooting star could've been KOSMOS , from the ending of xenosaga 3 as many speculated

But why Noah disappeared then? 🤔

Although he said that this was the end of the Xenoblade games, it doesnt mean it was the end of the Xeno franchise. So most probably, it will just be a completely new Xeno game where we will see Shulk, Rex and everyone else in this completely new world (since they did say that they where just taking a breather and that they would be back at the far edge of time).

​​@@DajovaHe said this was the end of the Klaus experiment arc specifically so wouldn't that include all these characters/worlds that are directly linked to all that? Things like Nopon, Telethia, ether, and the Conduit I could see returning since they've been in other games outside of the Klaus arc.

Saga fans ate SO GOOD.

Dmitri!!

I took a random chance on Xenoblade 1 also in 2015 just because I needed a game to actually utilize the "New" 3ds i had just gotten. I asked google and everyone was raving about Xenoblade so I just *had* to try it. I am forever thankful for the 3ds port getting me into the series and it will always hold a special place over DE in my heart even though it *technically* sucks

@@NamekianGI got Xenoblade 1 for the exact same reason. I just wanted a game that used the new features like the C stick and ZR/ZL buttons. Plus the trailers looked awesome and honestly the graphics didn’t bother me because the 3DS was all I knew at the time and I thought it was amazing that the game was even on the 3DS. Ever since then I’ve been a huge fan

Yup. And for Xenosaga: Episode I too. :)

Ohhh that’s what he meant by *them* 😮 but did it ever mention logos? I saw pneuma in matthews fists but not logos in the sword. It does fit the theme of the sword though

@@Rohit-bk6bc No, Logos was never mentioned, but it is heavily implied.

It wasn’t mentioned or even implied when Rex said “they wouldn’t bat an eye at helping”, why would logos ever care? In fact the sword glows green when he says “Release the power of Ouroboros!”, so it’s probably just a recreation of the pneuma core, considering that they’ve based origin on Ontos and was able to create that.

@@guywholikesgames7459 Logos would care, because there is no more influence from Amalthus (in XC2 Malos died => returned to his Core Crystal). Furthermore it is the only explaination, why N is able to overthrow Ontos. With Logos and his strong will both N is way more powerful, than Z or Pneuma or Ontos.

@@lukas2390 fair enough

Yea I personally think that too. It’s the more possible outcome and answer to how N and Noah exists at the same time.

I like that theory, but then there's M & Mio

For a split second you see his eyes bright again I think thats the moment

@@TeeTop_ M never wanted to be moebius and we see she even had contact with nia and the city folk in some flashbacks of the basegame so maybe if pnuma is the reason why mio exists then she likly came into contact with it at some point

After noah dies and leaves ghondor, up in the theater's balcony, the hooded kid is there, watching noah and z. While Takashi has mentioned the hooded child was a part of noah's pyche, the fact he shows up there might be indicative that's when N split apart. He seems to notice him up there, but then he ignores him. Could be symbolic that he ignored what his conscious was telling him and became mobius anyway. Remember when you become mobius, you are treated to the memories of your previous lives. Our noah admits he's only human. And humans... can only handle so much before they break. After the city was destroyed, I'm pretty sure it devastated m enough for her to split as well

As long as it involves Kos-Mos (because honestly what else could that blue shooting star after the credits be), anything is fair game

I was thinking of it and it really broke my heart to think that unless Na'el went out and met up with her brother again, they never see each other again in life

That's Monolith Soft!

I think the reason why people love N is the same reason people love Darth vader very similar motivations

I think if people haven’t played xc 1 and 2 then they certainly haven’t played saga and gears.

​@DavisH Mayo I don't think that was OP's point. The point was that these references to Saga and Gears were not understood by those who haven't played them, yet the story still had impact whether those references were understood or not.

That being said, my counterpoint is Harry McEntire's playthrough😂! Saga and Gears do not make up nearly as much of Future Redeemed as the other 2 games do. The radio can be ignored easily, and the post credits might be a little perplexing, but that is really it. Future Redeemed constantly references the other blade games, and the intertextual experience is something that matters a lot to the story. The callbacks are not just nice fanservice. They reveal why the story matters so much in the first place. The entire point about moving on only matters when the audience has a connection to what comes before. That's why the Cent Omnia region's destruction is instrumental in understanding that as things change (the topography of the world in this case lol) the spirit of what came before passes down to the next story and weave a narrative that no longer belongs to a single storyteller. It adds weight to the fact that while the original Colony 9 was destroyed, down the line 1,000 years later, the spirit of Shulk's, Rex's, and Matthew's wisdoms will be born anew in the Kevesi Colony 9, a wisdom withstanding the assault of the ages even as Aionios itself slowly dies of Annihilation Events. However, not knowing who Shulk and Rex are would fundamentally alter the perception of what the theming means. With 1 covering the future and 2 covering the past, the harmony between them is the present. The two make a choice (one that is literally in The Now😂) not to let the past die and to work together to form a better future, even if they do not get to see events unfold moving forward. Without 1 and 2, you don't see how a mad god's ambition isolating him from all other life and instilling a perverse version of this process of passing down has any correlation to his vessel, Shulk, selflessly giving up his seemingly eternal new life without thought of being remembered for all time. That specific audience would lose the importance of the unending hope of a child burrowing through the rock solid physique of a man who fought his own war against the despair of a dying world and proved to the End bringer with the soul of the wishes born 500 years prior that the world can change without its destruction. That same child is now helping to keep a new world afloat just long enough so that it can be torn down properly 1,000 years later. Future Redeemed expands on the previous blade games, so losing the context of 1 and 2 is a much bigger loss that that of Gears and Saga.

That's not really an equivalent analogy imo. This DLC is primarily built upon the first two Xenoblade games, not the gears or saga related stuff.

That analogy doesnt even slightly work

Less so the lucky seven and more the sword sheath

@@sdbzfan1 yea the lucky 7 is the 7 og party members memories iirc

Just like Mio is to Noah

Not just that. Dmitri is a direct callback to Xenosaga. So that's three Xeno series brought together. EDIT: nvm. Thought you only mentioned X and Gears. Didn't notice you also mentioned Saga.

This is a japanese sci-fi story to some degree so it's part of the deal.

These truly have been the Xenoblade Chronicles

I don’t like warriors type games. But if it’s Xenoblade then I I’ll definitely play it. Plus it definitely will give us more answers to the lore for sure if it does come out!

Ehh, I think it's more likely Riki.

@@Xeno_Solarus Yeah, I hadn't considered that he was another adopted kid like Kino when I made that comment, lol

It was nice to see that Rex hasn’t changed.