Can You Treat a Belt to Last a Million Miles? - Also Easy Belt Noise Diagnosis

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In this video I will show you if its possible to have your drive belt or serpentine belt last 1 million mile by treating it before you have it installed on your engine. Also I will go over how you can diagnose and pin point the exact cause of a belt chirping noise to either your belt, tensioner or a misalignment due to bad or worn out bearings or pulleys.
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@whatsgood4685 4 жыл бұрын

If the belts tend to dry out, soaking in 303 Actually makes sense. The manufacturer would never want to make a FOREVER anything.

@mikes8639 5 жыл бұрын

You're missing the point here. These belts are replaced because they dry out and eventually crack or break, not because they wear out. Also, you install them after the conditioner is completely soaked in, not when they are wet and dripping, which would negate your 'swollen belt' argument. Keep up the good work. 🙏

@rcalzadilla 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your solid analytical mind, without injecting any emotion into the conclusions. Your common sense+real knowledge+delivery style=Great, clear conclusions at very low cost to us. Keep your rudder steady as you have so far. Gracias.

@antbonyziemiak208 11 ай бұрын

Armor All contains petroleum distillates. It has the opposite of the desired effect. Only two products will work, 303, and AT-205.

@VitorMadeira 6 жыл бұрын

Well, thank you so very much for this fantastic video. This is *good stuff* !! Greetings from Portugal.

@flightofthefatman 6 жыл бұрын

Another great video! Keep up the good work and thanks for the enormous effort needed to put all these interesting and informative videos together.

@myRatchets 6 жыл бұрын

Glad you like the video, thanks for commenting.

@mikemichael5591 2 жыл бұрын

So the answer is that rubber protectant does not extend mileage on any belts including alternator belts ?? Just to be clear because I was just about to treat an alternator belt . And stopped after watching your video ….

@moonlighter6 6 жыл бұрын

You are an expert, been doing these techniques for years. I'm lucky though, I live in the Southeast away from the mountains and the coast too.

@edgiannotti3625 5 жыл бұрын

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@bpachol 6 жыл бұрын

Love your videos, a learning a lot.

@monsterram6617 6 жыл бұрын

303 Aerospace Protectant is a good choice... for using it in proper applications. But a few things: 1) Miles are irrelevant; engine hours at X rpm is what matters. 2) Rubber Protectants are designed to protect rubber from UV radiation, some chemicals, and the affects of humidity. 3) Any of these UV or rubber protectants can't be expected to reduce physical wear. 4) Can application of non-OEM recommended "protectants" on your engine components cause unexpected results? Probably.

@shuriKen469 6 жыл бұрын

2 videos in 1?!! booyah, he f'n did it!

@Jstro14 6 жыл бұрын

There's a guy on KZfaq that uses 303 aerospace protectant he says you can do anything like tires, belts and such for 12hr soaks every 3 months tires last couple hundred thousand miles

@carlalm6100 5 жыл бұрын

Seem to be an effective way to get killed, conditioning the friction surface of your tires...

@peterford9369 5 жыл бұрын

@@carlalm6100 Right on,, 👍. Plus how long could that really last on tread surface. All the heat and abuse a tire takes. Hard to believe.

@LarryRichelli 4 жыл бұрын

@@carlalm6100 Fear based people drive me crazy!

@russianbot1987 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bursting my bubble

@louper3002 5 жыл бұрын

Good work bro, keep it up

@terrancemccune1424 5 жыл бұрын

thank you sir! solved my bearing issue with out a bunch of wasted time and money seriously thank you!

@ColAngus 6 жыл бұрын

Dammit, my dreams of having a long lasting timing belt have just been shattered.

@foulerbeatle888 6 жыл бұрын

I need help turning my crankshaft on my 97 Hyundai tiburon I have it in neutral and the spark plugs are out. I'm replacing the head. The engine ran before I took it apart. So it should turn right?

@nickv4073 5 жыл бұрын

Agree. If I have to take the belt off to treat it, I might as well replace it.

@bryanoliver5550 6 жыл бұрын

That was a great Beeping serpentine belt video , Thanks for sharing .

@myRatchets 6 жыл бұрын

lol

@Mikej1592 6 жыл бұрын

If I were to record the weird sound my car sometimes makes on cold startup do you think you could diagnose it or give me some tips? It's not a belt sound its odd.

@mridware9694 6 жыл бұрын

My 2004 Camry belt don't have noise but there is very little right left movement in the belt not in the pulley, what should I do ??

@lane4574 5 жыл бұрын

The 303 military grade rubber protectant is way better than that black magic stuff. The 303 actually penetrates the rubber. And a tire company wouldn't ever tell you that it worked , they wanna sell as many tires as possible.I use the CRC belt conditioner for preventative maintenance ,it coats the belt ,hince protects it from drying out.I've got 80k on my tacoma belt and looks brand new. No sign of wear or cracks.I do all my own mechanic work learning how to from videos like yours and a good ole Schiltons book. Thanx for the info , and try the 303 aerospace/military grade rubber protectant. Works. But I don't think it is a million mile miracle fix either. Just saying I bet it helps....Put a little inside the tire before mounting.

@TheMickz2009 6 жыл бұрын

very informative,thanks.

@nikonlover1 4 жыл бұрын

Good video. I'm saving about $160 doing the belt myself and I never heard of any 'miracle product' that makes them last hundreds of thousands of miles.

@SyntheticStuntMan 5 ай бұрын

303 aerospace protectant...best there is.

@bundysgarage 6 жыл бұрын

"Forever Tires" lol, too funny!

@zuckertube 6 жыл бұрын

I disagree (use 303) and get a high Quality belts. Good video

@FlatRateMechanic 6 жыл бұрын

Got to give those other youtube creators props for the catchy titles but that's about all those videos are good for. Thanks for clearing this up. Any professional mechanic knows better than to soak a drive belt in anything and if it has been contaminated replacement would be recommended. Maybe I will title my next video how to make any car last forever by doing ??? Too funny.

@mikedrop4421 6 жыл бұрын

As a tech I'm glad to see someone educating people properly, eloquently and thoroughly. Well done sir.

@terrancemccune1424 5 жыл бұрын

i agree hard to find good solid complete info with out a ego involved.

@sonsofliberty90 6 жыл бұрын

Hi buddy! Where do you find all your service repair manuals?

@huyquoctran2088 3 жыл бұрын

If mines are super soak in power steering oil can this removes it? The belt is still in good condition (only 40 thousand miles) and still look good but cause my power steering pump been leaking oil down the belt its super soak. Causing loud noise now. Engine degreaser didn’t remove the oil. Or should i just buy a new belt. Pretty cheap

@bernynhel 5 жыл бұрын

You say all these things will happen if soaking your belts cause your belt to snap prematurly or swell the ribs on the belt when you don't know if any of that will happen and why would a tire company want to have forever tires? anyway, I soaked all my belts 6 years ago on my new F250 and now I have 374,000 on my truck and my belts. none of the belts have any cracks,

@kermitefrog64 5 жыл бұрын

That's unless you have a 1997 Buick Park Avenue and it is a major paint to change the belt tensioner because it also has hot water go through the part. You have to remove the alternator to get the idler tension mechanism removed and then replaced.

@makaveli2tt 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid thanks

@jimm1028 6 жыл бұрын

Great info.

@TravisMeeks6 6 жыл бұрын

never knew that water test, that's awesome!

@ChavezDIY 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making the video bro! I too saw a viral video about dipping the belt in liquid to extend its life. I just did a facepalm and refrained from commenting to avoid getting flamed by the amazed people. The belt on my Acura is easy to replace, cheap, and lasts a long time.

@basje1 6 жыл бұрын

Good video thanks!

@richardgorbutt2025 6 жыл бұрын

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@eggshellskullrule7971 6 жыл бұрын

I could see that you used a different conditioner form what the myth was about, the 303 Aerospace Protectant. SO your conclusion that such and such didn't work, is even less convincing that the original myth. My 2 cents.

@TheWilferch 3 жыл бұрын

What is the difference between blue bottle and white bottle of Aerospace protectant?

@bobmejia2290 6 жыл бұрын

sorry left out WITHOUT FAILING on comment below sorry...your video is informative thanks man

@peterford9369 5 жыл бұрын

I believe that. I've never had any protective coating last a year, much less hundreds of thousands of miles. Mines just starting to fillet, and I have 130,000 miles on it. Not bad.

@TheYoungBoaty 2 жыл бұрын

What kinda belt is it? Goodyear, denso or gates? Or continental?

@peterford9369 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheYoungBoaty Sorry, it's been so long I don't remember. Whatever came from the factory. Because It was the original. I do remember putting on the new one and seeing that it didn't fill the rollers fully. Was a bit disappointed because it tried hard to get a belt that claimed, " as good or better,than factory". We'll see. I went back and checked my Amazon orders. The belt I bought, was a Bando brand. The one I took off was the original from Ford.

@we-are-electric1445 5 жыл бұрын

If 303 makes tyres last longer why would tyre companies promote it ? They would lose business. It is wrong to say the sidewalls of tyres don't do any work - they hold the car up and flex as the loads on the tyre are applied and change during driving. One web site out there insists it works and claims to have tried it over the years and believes it lengthens the life of rubber parts considerably.

@joe1071 5 жыл бұрын

OMG, a website did? Well then let it be known, that this day forth, whatever that website said is true

@glasser2819 4 жыл бұрын

the secret formula commonly reference snake oil as top ingredient.

@hughjassstudios9688 2 жыл бұрын

@@glasser2819 don't knock it till ya try it. Unless you might be a tire salesman in disguise…

@davealley2761 6 жыл бұрын

For the first time, I see WHY there's the warning to not use belt treatment: Swelling! Thank you!

@mddell58 6 жыл бұрын

*Slipping belt.......Sprinkle baby powder on it. Also, while engine is running.* Thanks for sharing your video. Nice to know we can't make belts last a million miles. :-)

@WOB1010 6 жыл бұрын

The timing belt is the one I'm concerned about; as that's big money to replace. I was thinking that maybe an Engine /Trans. Gasket Restore product, like "AT205" or "Bars", might actually penetrate and extend the life of belts.? (Maybe spraying it while it's still on.?)

@uckBayNguyen 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for debunking all the nonsense

@TheAdam212121 5 жыл бұрын

I spray all my rubber engine hoses and any belts with silicone spray from Walmart. $2.50 per can. My 2017 Honda hr-v crossover was bought new in 2017. I'm current reaching 109,000 miles with no issues.

@jameshiers5451 Жыл бұрын

Will this work on a timing belt?

@Giblet535 6 жыл бұрын

It might be worth while to remove the pulleys to restore their surfaces when replacing a belt, or if that belt seems to wear out too often. My evidence is weak, but I suspect manufacturers plan-in belt obsolescence by choosing soft pulley materials like sintered iron, then doing very little to properly surface a pulley's belt contact surfaces.

@sweetvuvuzela4634 6 жыл бұрын

Finally someone with common sense

@usaresident8181 5 жыл бұрын

A couple of comments. We replaced the serpentine belt in our vehicle in less than 1/2 hour. Some duo on KZfaq swore up and down that it was a 2-person job, but my son did it without assistance.

@FakeJeep 6 жыл бұрын

Said video you were referenced implied you could put it on the timing belt as well... and wipers!

@Saturngutter 6 жыл бұрын

Good vid...saw the 303 vid and was going to try it! You saved me some dough...subbed!

@billydarley6925 6 жыл бұрын

baby powder if like me you cant afford the parts right away. :)

@Snakesht172 6 жыл бұрын

and that's why I have a non-interference engine with a timing chain.

@hughjassstudios9688 2 жыл бұрын

I think you'd be safe on interference with chain, provided your chain guides aren't made of plasticrap

@Tmy3rs 6 жыл бұрын

Helpful video as always, I thank you good sir!

@wyattoneable 6 жыл бұрын

Good one.

@samhicks97 5 жыл бұрын

Coating your vital engine components in rubber protectant might not be a good idea, but here's a thought. Why not coat suspension parts? Bushings/shackle bushings may last 200K miles or more with Polyurethane bushings.

@secur60 6 жыл бұрын

when you gonna take this box to the dyno ?

@myRatchets 6 жыл бұрын

Should be pretty soon now.

@leftmorningstar6954 6 жыл бұрын

303 aerospace protectant is the good staff

@geojor 6 жыл бұрын

thanks so much ...

@axenz1 6 жыл бұрын

Thank for the info , I almost believe from youtuber Sweet Project Cars title "NEVER! Replace an Alternator Belt/Serpentine Belt AGAIN !"

@myRatchets 6 жыл бұрын

yes, there are a couple of them making these scam videos. Who said you couldn't sell snake oil on youtube.

@billydarley6925 6 жыл бұрын

my belt was squeaking after i washed the engine. like all other belts i ever had noise problems with, i just dusted it with baby powder and it hasnt squeaked since. eventually ill be replacing the tensioner among other parts but just havent had the spare cash lately.

@BloodOnMars 6 жыл бұрын

son of a b#$#@ i just bought a gallon of rubber protectant for 50$.... D;

@billydarley6925 6 жыл бұрын

BloodOnMars were you responding to me? As long as the belt stays dry the talc powder works great and its cheap as hell to reapply just takes seconds without even removing the belt. I'm not wasting my money on dressing when baby powder is so much cheaper. Maybe the dressing is a one time application but the powder is still cheaper.

@johnmastr7901 6 жыл бұрын

bloodonmars use it anyway, 303 isnt tacky like the shit he used in the video.

@johnmiranda2307 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@johnwolf1475 6 жыл бұрын

Napa sil-glyde. Treat every so often with a few dabs...belt still new over 150k in southwest desert...no wear or tear.. Protects all rubber.. Engine houses etc..m

@lewisbighuber7029 5 жыл бұрын

Shingled roofs are very expensive to replace. Hmmm,I wonder?

@glasser2819 4 жыл бұрын

armor all silicon repels water thus stop mildew rot

@chadpugh1490 6 жыл бұрын

Why would I want my belt to slip by soaking in oil?

@markespinoza7090 6 жыл бұрын

Belts usually last 50-100k or longer depending on environment, driving and maintenance habits. I usually replace mine for peace of mind. There so cheap and easy I would do it every 3-5 years.

@onestepbeyond7240 5 жыл бұрын

Bought a new belt and the bearings in the pulley seized up, tearing up the belt pretty good. Dickhead engineers don't believe in grease fittings , anymore.

@BassManBobBassCovers 6 жыл бұрын

I replaced my serp belts on my car and now it clicks when it first starts. WTF BRO?

@GUYANESEGT 6 жыл бұрын

thumbs up for the legend of zelda t-shirt

@jth1987leb 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this. So tired of those videos lying. Or that people will even believe it

@johnb4183 5 жыл бұрын

We used to soak 'em in marvel mystery oil

@mommie46now 6 жыл бұрын

Again, another great video. You did your own Mythbusters. What needs to be done is if there was a treatment that would prolong an already installed belt from heat and friction damage. But very entertaining. Thank you.

@gwalker1652 6 жыл бұрын

......such a dream killer lol.

@douglasthompson2740 6 жыл бұрын

"Belt dressing" leaves a gooey mess and does not stop slipping. Attracting dust and crud which wears the belt out even faster. But knowing today's manufacturers they certainly wouldn't market anything that would extend the life of anything just the reverse no matter how good it works. I do agree there isn't any free lunch. Take care. Doug

@niacal4nia 6 жыл бұрын

Back in the old days we use to rub a bar of soap on the belt to stop the noise but it was temporary.

@qn3734 6 жыл бұрын

Hey RnW, thanks for the advice. Belts are inexpensive and easy to replace so why wouldn't you replace it after a while? Let's say a new quality belt costs $40 and you drive every day (365 days) ....that works out at only 11 cent per day for the belt if one were to calculate the cost as a cheap skate. Gonna risk engine failure over 11 cent?

@conancarr6088 6 жыл бұрын

The belt isn't 11 cents tho

@qn3734 6 жыл бұрын

Cona ca......Not sure why you'd reply to a rhetorical question but thanks for letting everyone know this because it will save people hours looking online for 11 cent belts....silly me.

@qn3734 6 жыл бұрын

Hey TheAstro30, Thank you.

@al-ameenmohammed2320 6 жыл бұрын

9:43 you said air compressor ...lol

@sunsetoriginals7320 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this video. I remember someone trying to make these claims and knew it was absolute bullshit! BIG THUMBS Up!

@MrXerxes415 Жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha he said hell I heard them

@bmslanc3157 6 жыл бұрын

What dog have you got?

@nathanstephenson7917 6 жыл бұрын

Was it me....when I linked you the video? so you DO listen to your subs...how epic!?!?! Hey...do this for us viewers. Take that "tire shine/rubber protectant" spray (Eagle 1 works well) and show how much traction it provides when its applied to a bearing surface by putting it the treads of your tires and then start a burnout. It will get EPICLY SMOKEY! Imagine what it will do on the v-grooves of the pulleys.

@mathewbailey1004 6 жыл бұрын

What about doing this to your timing belt

@SLOPTOBERFEST 6 жыл бұрын

I hope you're being sarcastic.

@mathewbailey1004 6 жыл бұрын

SLOPTOBERFES ha ha I didn't watch the video to the end

@hwildy 6 жыл бұрын

6:19 is a pushrod V8. pretty sure the camshaft is chain driven.

@robertking7584 6 жыл бұрын

Depends on the manufacturer of the engine. Toyota uses a timing belt in the Tundra V8s as do some other makers.

@hwildy 6 жыл бұрын

video at 6:19 is a pushrod v8

@robertking7584 6 жыл бұрын

And? that means very little with regard to how the cam or cams are driven. Some engines use nylon and steel gear to gear drive, others use belts and still others use chains. The point remains the same, it is at best moronic to think applying any kind of rubber treatment to a belt of any kind, will make it last many times longer than not treating it in the first place. Rubber plus heat and stress equals rubber breakdown. Age plus rubber = rubber breakdown due to chemical leeching out of the rubber and causing it to dry out and in time crack or break. So called protectants are nothing more than lipstick on a pig.

@hwildy 6 жыл бұрын

...and it means that a snapped cam belt has nothing to do with a pushrod V8.

@billydarley6925 6 жыл бұрын

he probably didnt have an opened up OHC engine for display reference purposes.

@ryancovington5636 4 жыл бұрын

If the protectant has silicone this is a mute point cause silicone does not help penetrate the surface

@jerryf2426 6 жыл бұрын

Did you get this from "Sweet Project Car" or did they get it from you?

@e.k2801 6 жыл бұрын

Works on Timing belt too ?

@robertking7584 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video, those clowns saying rubber protectant of any kind would make whatever last thousands of times longer are either ignorant or deliberately promoting a specific product. Sadly, far too many see such videos and believe them resulting in even more people following stupid advice as time goes on.

@vt2704 6 жыл бұрын

Every single belt protection I every used snapped the belt almost right away as well as dry out almost immediately.

@larrylindblom7063 6 жыл бұрын

if you add traction to a worn and weak belt expect it to snap under the higher load created by the higher traction

6 жыл бұрын

TheRocketMan8888 Interesting how Alpha Ghost never responded to your comment. If the video reviewer used 303 Aerospace Protectant instead of garbage Armor All, the results would have been MUCH different, in an extremely positive way.

@williamriley9226 6 жыл бұрын

You used the wrong stuff. Find a better one.

@wtfhappened661 6 жыл бұрын

In a similar scenario, I was told to put "soluble oil" in my radiator for corrosion & water-pump protection... BY A JOBBER! I put it in a '69 Wildcat, an '81 Eldorado and a '95 Mitsubishi... ALL THREE OF THEM blew out 1"x2" chunks of the hose (like little doors) within 3 months...

@mblake0420 5 жыл бұрын

cant use oil based

@timothyalsfeld8323 5 жыл бұрын

You are a very young man and don't remember belts use to last u to 10 year's. Goodyear and Bridgestone realized that belts were lasting to long. So they started making the belts out of recycled rubber and stopped offering life time guarantee. Now belts will only last a couple of years. Even if you don't drive alot they will dry rot. It is the quality of the rubber that makes the difference.

@flowrob6861 3 жыл бұрын

Easy access ? Not on 97 ford E350 unless u got skinny arms with 2nd elbows .

@xephael3485 6 жыл бұрын

If only this worked on timing belts

@goldenultra 6 жыл бұрын

xephael - normally the tensioner and not the timing belt fails.

@bengom68 6 жыл бұрын

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@wholeNwon 6 жыл бұрын

Will only work if applied at night during the first full moon of November in an even numbered year north of the equator...odd numbered year south of the equator. So you did it completely wrong.

@bmanhemi4ever409 6 жыл бұрын

wholeNwon 😂😂😂

@mauricioespinoza5390 6 жыл бұрын

wholeNwon Yup it works, ask NASA how long their O rings or any rubberized materials in ISS last. FOREVER

@wholeNwon 6 жыл бұрын

Like their "Challenger" O rings?

@billydarley6925 6 жыл бұрын

*BUUUUUUURN!!!!!!!* XD

@commontater652 4 жыл бұрын

I disagree: I have had the same belt for 50 years and it's fine. I just keep moving it from vehicle to vehicle because they die. Sure, it was difficult to fit the V-belt from my '68 Chevelle onto my Toyota, my Ford, my Pontiac, and now my VW, but I have saved literally *dozens* of dollars over the years, and I'm not even 50 years old!

@commontater652 4 жыл бұрын

@Locust Hypnosis It was all in jest.

@XenomorphLV426 6 жыл бұрын

I got a gatorback bra

@devonnewest7990 5 жыл бұрын

Speaking of squealing belts, do you know about the Toyota belt squeal issue, as in Yaris, Echo. some Corollas etc... ? These cars are known to squeal on start up, BUT, if you turn the key to "run" first and stop there for a second (let the dash light up) then proceed to turning the key to "start", there is NO squeal! Works EVERY time. There is a vid on this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/friiibCl3q_VeY0.html Do you think it's what this guy says? If you stop at run for a sec, the computer has time to set the exact alternator output it needs, not the highest default level. Less alternator load means no squeal. Makes sense to me, but no matter, it absolutely works each and every time. (bet it makes the alt last longer too!)

@kevincole5468 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video. But no company would make anything last forever with a lifetime warranty they make money off of selling products not making them last forever. Some of the first light bulb ever made still work why do we replace light bulbs every year

@doninikbatista1892 6 жыл бұрын

First and nice video

@johnwolf1475 6 жыл бұрын

No slippage...

@TheWilferch 6 жыл бұрын

Valves get bent when a cogged cam belt breaks....correct, but ONLY if your engine is an "interference" style engine. The valves will NOT hit the piston for "non-interference" engines. A google search or more will tell you which one is which...

@LOV2XRL8RL 6 жыл бұрын

Well, I doubt this will make any difference. It will get loose and dry with time. What I do, with the belt still on car, is using a toothbrush apply some Vaseline to it. Turn engine on, then off. Apply again. 3-4 times and the belt will be completely lubed.

@robertking7584 6 жыл бұрын

the belt is not supposed to be lubed. Lubricating a belt causes it to slip.

@LOV2XRL8RL 6 жыл бұрын

Robert King Tell that to my belt, looks nice and shiny.

@robertking7584 6 жыл бұрын

how it looks means nothing. lubricating the belt causes it to slip which increases friction.

@LOV2XRL8RL 6 жыл бұрын

Robert King Mine doesn't