Mysterious Disappearance Followed by Inconsistent Stories | DeOrr Kunz Jr. Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

2 жыл бұрын

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of DeOrr Kunz, Jr.?
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@nicole5506
@nicole5506 2 жыл бұрын
"The animal was careful not to knock off his oversize cowboy boots..." What a great point!
@sarabechtler7921
@sarabechtler7921 Жыл бұрын
And what about the blood on vernal truck? Was it tested?
@BarkyLondon
@BarkyLondon 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty bad sign when you hire two different private investigators who point to you being responsible...
@aarondavis8943
@aarondavis8943 Жыл бұрын
You can't trust anything Klein says. He claims to have confessions, jackets and all kinds of evidence, but he has never presented any of it to police or shown it to anyone.
@anonymousstrangeness7348
@anonymousstrangeness7348 Жыл бұрын
That would be sort of a red flag 😕
@whitedragoness23
@whitedragoness23 Жыл бұрын
It was the camo clothes and toys found. I would be suspicious too if I was a PI but I would quit working with the parents
@debra6513
@debra6513 Жыл бұрын
AMEN, IF THEY DONT GET THEM HERE, GOD WILL GET THEM!
@ocoolwow
@ocoolwow Жыл бұрын
​@@debra6513 there is no god or real justice, but you keep living in fantasy land buttercup.
@Emily-ck9ji
@Emily-ck9ji 2 жыл бұрын
The second that stories become inconsistent or start changing when it involves missing or injured children is ALWAYS extremely concerning and suspicious.
@kristipatterson9952
@kristipatterson9952 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I can see "additions" to a story, but changes don't make sense (unless you're lying).
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 2 жыл бұрын
Any case... that's a very negative sign.
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 2 жыл бұрын
Inconsistent statements or stories are red flags for investigators.🤔
@davidschmidt2081
@davidschmidt2081 2 жыл бұрын
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus I don't know if this is part of what bothered you but it seems like a lot of people will hear something, misunderstand, and use it as fact, regarding anything but also like when people are talking about psychology related subjects, acting like they completely know what's going on and even vilifying people with it.
@GeorgiaJakes7
@GeorgiaJakes7 2 жыл бұрын
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus Are you seriously bragging that?
@KittyKat1
@KittyKat1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping DeOrr in the news. He deserves justice for his stolen life.
@animula6908
@animula6908 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to hope he ran off to Mexico and began a new life.
@KittyKat1
@KittyKat1 Жыл бұрын
@@animula6908 he was 2 years old
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC Жыл бұрын
The mother sold him.
@KittyKat1
@KittyKat1 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGeneral_LUFC to whom? Proof?
@TheGeneral_LUFC
@TheGeneral_LUFC Жыл бұрын
@KittyKat what do u mean to whom? Like I know. Its the only one that makes sense. Do u know when klein searched they appt he found the camo jacket that deorr was wearing the day he disappeared wrapped in a plastic bag and buried in a couch. The mother didn't want him. She gave up her other 2 kids. The grandad is in on it. Isaac was brought there just so he can be blamed.
@latinbeautymaria
@latinbeautymaria 2 жыл бұрын
“If disorganization were helium, her parents would be floating.” I come here for the poetry.
@Journeyoflove13
@Journeyoflove13 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Moonglow23
@Moonglow23 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. Had a good laugh...😜
@marlataylor5435
@marlataylor5435 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like me but you’d also hear Donald Duck.
@annwethenorth
@annwethenorth 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@jessicarakowicz1627
@jessicarakowicz1627 2 жыл бұрын
I come here for this shade. Also, I love how he basically called them too stupid to cover things up terribly well.
@briangarrow448
@briangarrow448 2 жыл бұрын
This one is heartbreaking. The poor little guy. RIP
@finolaomurchu8217
@finolaomurchu8217 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he was a beautiful child, God bless him☘🇮🇪🧚‍♂️
@jonathancox4189
@jonathancox4189 2 жыл бұрын
When did the precious little man died, did they found the body
@Ona-vd8ri
@Ona-vd8ri 2 жыл бұрын
The changing stories and that these parents moved on with their lives so quickly make them extremely suspicious to me. I can't imagine losing my child and caring about anything but finding him.
@bonniewatts4922
@bonniewatts4922 2 жыл бұрын
Baby deorr was a liability so concocted. BS story to cover up murder. Sudden camp trip but needed feminine supplies. Uh huh.
@calgal7828
@calgal7828 2 жыл бұрын
@Daisy Moo You must not have listened to Dr. Grande. He mentioned several.
@KyleInOklahoma
@KyleInOklahoma 2 жыл бұрын
You think they dont care? My boy went missing also. I could only search so much before going back to work to pay the bills. 6 months later his body was found in a small case in another county. His killer was caught & confessed. People accused us of not caring, smh.
@Lion_Hamza
@Lion_Hamza 2 жыл бұрын
@@KyleInOklahoma Oh man I’m so sorry for your immense lost. I can’t imagine the pain you have gone true. And guess there is nothing one could say to soothe this pain. But i strongly believe in God almighty and in a afterlife. One day you will be reunited with your beloved child and all pain and suffering shall be forgotten. Peace ☮️!
@lf9341
@lf9341 2 жыл бұрын
@Daisy Moo Did you not watch the video?
@grumpyoldlady_rants
@grumpyoldlady_rants 2 жыл бұрын
I live near Idaho so this story dominated the local news when it happened. I was suspicious from the start. I camped with my kids starting when they were toddlers. I never let them out if my sight, especially if we were camped near a body of water. I think if DeOrr had been anywhere around that campsite, he would have been found.
@richneuman9113
@richneuman9113 2 жыл бұрын
It's rather incredible that no charges have been made in this case.
@grumpyoldlady_rants
@grumpyoldlady_rants 2 жыл бұрын
@@richneuman9113 - I know. I really hope his body if found one day soon.
@Tata-iu3fy
@Tata-iu3fy 2 жыл бұрын
We are in Washington, and we were camping too when this happened. It was scary.
@achaides
@achaides 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Toddlers only wander off so far before they would just sit down and start crying until someone found them. Poor little guy 😢
@Listrynne
@Listrynne 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Idaho Falls. My family has rental property and few years before this Jessica actually rented from us. She had I think 2 other kids then that she lost custody of. She and her then bf were a mess.
@LaVidayElTristeFinal
@LaVidayElTristeFinal 2 жыл бұрын
Everything about this case is inconsistent and strange. For instance: 1- During the trip to the store, they said they got "lost" for nearly an hour, which is ridiculous because there is only one road to town and the the tiny village is only a couple of streets long. 2- They told several lies, for instance, that a beer-truck driver had interacted with Deorr and that the gas station attendant had also interacted with Deorr. Both men were interviewed and both adamantly denied ever seeing Deorr. Why would they make up all the stories about people interacting with Deorr during this shopping trip? It is clear Deorr was not with them, two independent witnesses said the parents were alone. Maybe they got rid of him along the way? 3- One thing that is striking to me is the difference between this case and Maddie McCann's case. The McCanns tried to get as much exposure as possible and never stopped looking for their child, they even met with the pope! These parents, on the other hand, did not want exposure. After the first couple of interviews, they didn't want any more media around, and wanted to forget the incident. 4-Vernal moved out of state and Jessica remarried only a few months later, and was all smiles (kinda like Casey Anthony partying while her child was missing). I've seen many cases of missing children and the parents never stop looking. Maura Murray's dad kept looking for her forever; same with the McCanns. These two, on the other hand, moved on with their lives as quickly as possible. 5- Interestingly, when you listen to some interviews with Jessica, she refers to Deorr using distancing language, calling him "that kid", "little man" or things like that ("that kid was my best friend"). Chris Watts did the same things on interviews ("I want those kids back"). She rarely uses his name nor does she say "my child" or "my son". It's all very distant. 6-Vernal, the father, made remarks like "I want to prove everyone that we're innocent". One would think that his priority would be to find his kid, rather than to prove anything! 7-Did they want to get rid of Deorr and use Isaac as a scapegoat? Otherwise why bring along a guy that you don't know at all and who has a criminal past? Who says “I want to go camping with the family, and it would be a great idea to also invite some stranger who is a weirdo”? Even the grandpa said he didn't trust Isaac and didn't know him well, so why on earth did they bring him? 8-They were deeply in debt and struggling financially, but they decided to spend money on a camping trip? 9-And why go on a camping trip on a Thursday instead of the weekend? Perhaps because the campground would be empty? 10- Jessica did not want this child like she didn't want her previous two kids. There is a picture of her with Deorr and she's giving him such a hateful stare that is unbelievable. She had already given up custody of her two previous kids, and she had tied her tubes. She dumped Vernal a month later and quickly married another guy .The opposite of a grieving mother. 11-Two private investigators, one after the other, offered their help, only to quit shortly thereafter because they felt the parents were uncooperative and deceitful. What are the odds that two detectives would say the same thing? 12-When Jessica and Vernal were evicted from their house, one of the private detectives was granted access by the landlord and he found the boots they said Deorr was wearing. The boots were in the house all along. Another lie by the parents. I don't know what happened, but when you put all the pieces together, nothing makes sense. The whole thing stinks!
@lesmorris10
@lesmorris10 2 жыл бұрын
I think they sold the kid..and took the money to start new lives. She figures her kid is with a good family so she's not torn up over it..and Verbal glad to have some pocket change to pay his bills IMO.
@juanitarichards1074
@juanitarichards1074 2 жыл бұрын
The McCanns have made multi millions of dollars from the publicity they generated and were able to pay off their mortgage and travel the world.........
@_HimToo
@_HimToo 2 жыл бұрын
@@juanitarichards1074 The McCanns are both doctors. They weren't short on money to begin with
@_HimToo
@_HimToo 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the cops did anything to see if she was actually on her period
@juanitarichards1074
@juanitarichards1074 2 жыл бұрын
@@_HimToo They weren't millionaires and had a mortgage to pay off. They went to a budget resort in the off season so it was cheaper. They could have hired a full time nanny to stay in the apartment with the kids, or at least an overnight babysitter.......they didn't do that.
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 2 жыл бұрын
All the times we have camped and hiked I never took my eyes off my kid. You just don’t, especially a two year old. Thanks Dr G.
@meenki347
@meenki347 2 жыл бұрын
Between my wife and I, we never took our eyes off of our kids until they started attending school. We never even hired a babysitter. Better Safe than Sorry! It's crazy times.
@davemckay4359
@davemckay4359 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true. Never just assume.
@istateyourname4710
@istateyourname4710 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Every vacation they are under constant watch. It's exhausting, but welcome to parenting.
@thelocalmaladroit8873
@thelocalmaladroit8873 2 жыл бұрын
@@istateyourname4710 Yes 👍
@pathemeleski
@pathemeleski 2 жыл бұрын
OF COURSE you do! You look away for a few seconds when you're checking if the food is done, or when you're in the bathroom, or when you share a tender look with your spouse, or when the kid is tucked into his sleeping bag asleep and you go outside the tent to enjoy the campfire a bit longer. There are ALWAYS moments when you're not actually looking at the child. Of course, you keep it brief and infrequent, and you're keeping your ears on the child when you can't see him/her. But you are not being honest with yourself if you say you never take your eyes off for a second.
@michael-m
@michael-m 2 жыл бұрын
Doc continues to be the leading authory on small to medium cacti 🌵
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
How 'bout big shadow additions!
@Truth1561
@Truth1561 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Doc I now have my own prickly family ☺️
@michael-m
@michael-m 2 жыл бұрын
@@Truth1561 Hahaha love it, Sue.
@Witchofthewoods.
@Witchofthewoods. 2 жыл бұрын
LOL 😆😆😆😆👍
@Laura-tp8wz
@Laura-tp8wz 2 жыл бұрын
I like the cacti too! 🦋
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always great when it’s Grande o’clock.
@valleygirl2530
@valleygirl2530 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me think “Cafe Grande ”!!! 🧋☕️🧋
@mackereltabbie
@mackereltabbie 2 жыл бұрын
Even if the parents didn't kill him, they were at least negligent
@libralillyknits
@libralillyknits 2 жыл бұрын
How
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely... who doesn't keep track of a 2 year old, WTH???
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 2 жыл бұрын
@@libralillyknits Are you serious? A mature adult does not loose track of a 2 year old child.
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 2 жыл бұрын
It does sound or appear so.🤔
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 2 жыл бұрын
@@polarbearsrus6980 Not necessarily. Caylee Anthony was only like 3 when she was kidnapped and apparently later died but Casey probably only lost her and wasn't involved. Good parents can make honest mistakes.
@Mineav
@Mineav 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it turned out that the woman who claimed a "dingo ate my baby" was probably telling the truth, though we wouldn't realize that until 30+ years later from the initial event. Anything is possible, but the parents seem pretty suspect in this case.
@jenrutherford6690
@jenrutherford6690 2 жыл бұрын
She WAS telling the truth , they found the baby's jumpsuit , .
@mamacito1795
@mamacito1795 2 жыл бұрын
I watched a documentary about her and she got a really rough ride. However I dont think she ever changed her story. These guys however, highly sus
@Swnsasy
@Swnsasy 2 жыл бұрын
She was cleared and was telling the truth.. This family here is full of it.. When you're child goes missing, you don't forget the story AT ALL.. You know exactly what happened. They have 7 different stories but, I do understand what you're saying.. Unfortunately it's the constant changing of their story that is the issue..
@MadameCirce
@MadameCirce 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. This reminds me of the "dingo ate my baby" case as well. Which is such a sad story, I feel terrible for what that mother went through. Although my gut says that in this case, the family did do something shady.
@icturner23
@icturner23 2 жыл бұрын
She was *definitely* telling the truth. But it’s not like that case really, which happened at night where there were loads of dingos. Some people always believed Lindy Chamberlain, just not the majority. I doubt anyone believes these two.
@amberg1617
@amberg1617 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Dr. Grande’s speculations are absolutely, “nah, I smell BS; better luck next time pal.” Always gives some good insight and really makes you think about all sides of the situation. Keep speculating sir, this really sheds light on human behavior and has us fans taking a deeper dive on these cases.
@amandaoneill6040
@amandaoneill6040 2 жыл бұрын
Your Irish...am I right...I'm right 😏
@amandaoneill6040
@amandaoneill6040 2 жыл бұрын
The "pal" very dublish 😂🇮🇪
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe Brooklyn!
@thebeasters
@thebeasters 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to run the impeach hearing. Would completely bury the red hat traitors
@autumnedwards4448
@autumnedwards4448 2 жыл бұрын
Whether they are guilty or not. . . they have to live with the constant threat of facing justice. . . Great line Dr Grande! Thank you for your analysis!💖💖
@HuffyGal78
@HuffyGal78 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was weird their were never any soiled diapers found around the camp or cars etc.
@GelatinousCube-jw8vg
@GelatinousCube-jw8vg 2 жыл бұрын
I would quite like to see a video about the history of Polygraphs by Dr Grande.
@sarabechtler7921
@sarabechtler7921 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@ThrashPolice
@ThrashPolice 2 жыл бұрын
yeah we know he would love that ! it would be riddled with sarcastic dry humor
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 2 жыл бұрын
They can do brain scans to prove if someone is lying now. I have no idea why they don't use them
@AmethystEmpressDivineTarot6589
@AmethystEmpressDivineTarot6589 2 жыл бұрын
@Mack Nikko I fifth that motion! Plllzzzz @Dr. Todd Grande
@AmethystEmpressDivineTarot6589
@AmethystEmpressDivineTarot6589 2 жыл бұрын
@Mack Nikko lol yes
@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT
@DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT 2 жыл бұрын
"The sword of Damocles" Nice classical reference, Dr. Grande! It fits their reality perfectly.
@aileenburke4667
@aileenburke4667 2 жыл бұрын
Well, two of his cacti are named Hector an Achilles…
@sweettina2
@sweettina2 2 жыл бұрын
@@aileenburke4667 I'm interested to know if he talks to his plants, and if so, what does he say to them? Particularly the cactus.🌵
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 2 жыл бұрын
Parents are very suspicious. The poor baby didn’t get a chance to live, Another great video Dr Grande!!!
@lily-joyheal9954
@lily-joyheal9954 2 жыл бұрын
I think they brought Issac with them to blame him TBH. They weren't close and the way they aggressively attacked his character when he is the only one who's story didn't change is sus
@yasuke9317
@yasuke9317 2 жыл бұрын
I e always thought that something was off with this story. lad you're covering this Doc, thank you.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that missing G is for Grande!
@yasuke9317
@yasuke9317 2 жыл бұрын
Missed the v in I've, too. I was excited because I watched a documentary about this story and have followed it. It's crazy, right?
@elainearchibald9020
@elainearchibald9020 2 жыл бұрын
What a strange story, I can't imagine that poor child disappearing like he did. Thanks for your analysis Dr. Grande, hopefully the truth will come out one day.
@donnawalker8352
@donnawalker8352 2 жыл бұрын
If you watch Dr. Donna Seriphina she states that the bear drug him into his den. She has a u-tube channel 🙏💔
@ScumfuckMcDoucheface
@ScumfuckMcDoucheface 2 жыл бұрын
@@donnawalker8352 the doctor psychic reverend? haha this oughtta be good =)
@annwethenorth
@annwethenorth 2 жыл бұрын
There's a few good videos of the story and interviews on this case.
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 2 жыл бұрын
@@michelekossack1861 I thought of the case in Australia, too. There are similarities. It doesn't make sense that everyone would go along with covering up a murder.
@s.a.b.i.
@s.a.b.i. 2 жыл бұрын
@@donnawalker8352 Take that with a grain of salt, if you will. I live in the northern mountain region of Idaho. Bear attacks across the country, much less fatal attacks are not as common as people think (with wyoming reportedly taking #1 spot with attacks.) That being said, yes, there are cases of bear attacks and it is a possibility...unlikely, but a possibility none the less. Here is what the 'justice for baby deorr' website has to say: "​A new psychic reading has been made for Deorr, claiming his case has been solved, which has confused many. We would like to say that while this new reading that says Baby Deorr was taken and killed by a bear, that we are open to all theories and readings for Baby Deorr, but he has not been found yet, so take the solved part lightly and continue hoping for him to be found. ​ *Meantime in January 2021, Donna the Psychic has created her very own Deorr page for more gain to her pocket. Again Deorr is still missing and his case is NOT solved. Please believe the facts this page holds. The TRUTH is how this case will be solved."
@thereal4113
@thereal4113 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody got away with murder of an innocent child, then move on like it never happened. The parents should be neutered. Thank you Dr. Grande🌵🌵🌵🌵
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 2 жыл бұрын
She had another kid with the new husband. I hope he has a good life. I think the father did something, maybe accidentally. Then hid the body when he 'went to the store'.
@tracker5849
@tracker5849 2 жыл бұрын
Yup..kill bury under debri...wait..collect insurance $$$$$$$$$$$$$ move on...breed again in a few years when money runs low and people forget what you did
@tinawindham6958
@tinawindham6958 2 жыл бұрын
Since they aren’t together anymore, might be a good time to pressure one to rat the other out. As a mother, I was always the one with my hand on my babies. Not dad, not grandma, not boyfriend etc. my babies.
@GrimSleepy
@GrimSleepy 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinawindham6958 They have, immunities were offered. Neither one signed the offers, literally for Jessica they offered parenting courses and probation, if she revealed the location of a body. The accusations of internet sleuths are not evidence of the Kunz' characters, it's evidence of the ugliness of society. Possibly evidence of dark subconsciouses too, from some of the macabre and detailed theories.
@valleygirl2530
@valleygirl2530 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrimSleepy There’s always a few gullible people who don’t use their critical thinking.
@beeimaginative
@beeimaginative 2 жыл бұрын
Your sword of analysis and critical thinking is sharper than ever! It is a pleasure to watch these videos and I always learn from them.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there!
@beeimaginative
@beeimaginative 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson He cuts right to it!
@elanahammer1076
@elanahammer1076 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande is very sharp with wit, tongue and cheek! Lol 😜
@beeimaginative
@beeimaginative 2 жыл бұрын
@@elanahammer1076 And dress!
@rexvarr4574
@rexvarr4574 2 жыл бұрын
I work with DeOrr’s grandmother. She called some guys that she knew well and had camped with. As they were loading up four wheelers, they received a call not to show up. Why would anyone not want men and women who spend their off time camping and hunting. It’s heartbreaking to watch the grandmother live through this living nightmare.
@angeltrxmp
@angeltrxmp 2 жыл бұрын
I use your videos to get through my day. Thank you for everything you do. No one does it like Dr. Grande!
@nerusaasriramasothy5633
@nerusaasriramasothy5633 2 жыл бұрын
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@ScumfuckMcDoucheface
@ScumfuckMcDoucheface 2 жыл бұрын
hey, noooooot to be a creep or anything haha but you have amazingly pretty eyes =) great picture conposition, with the shadows and light contrasting... just wanted to mention that **tips nonexistent hat** hope you're smillin' friend.
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 2 жыл бұрын
He needs to be on television. It would be so poplar, dang!!!
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
More flirting!
@polarbearsrus6980
@polarbearsrus6980 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson Lol, if you think that's flirting you may have a problem.
@DuckiesDad08
@DuckiesDad08 2 жыл бұрын
I usually need to see a title before I decide if I wanna watch a video. Dr. Grande’s are the only ones I’ll watch just based on the channel.
@MellyWilliams
@MellyWilliams 2 жыл бұрын
I've followed this case for a few years now. So sad. Caregivers shirking responsibility, and no one has enough integrity to honour the poor little boy's memory...
@pamelajackson2383
@pamelajackson2383 2 жыл бұрын
i've followed it also, since it happened. it mystifies me. such a cute kiddo.
@DetectivesDaughter
@DetectivesDaughter 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as it came across our news here in Idaho, we knew that the parents were/are suspects. If two separate private detectives, hired by the parents quit because they feel the parents are lying and being deceptive….. they are definitely suspects.
@stacey4u2luv
@stacey4u2luv Жыл бұрын
I just wish those detectives that were suspicious of the parents did not quit but rather that they played along and dug deeper and took all evidence to the police. If there is some law that states if you work for someone that you can not hand over evidence because you are taking money from them, then say to them, no that is o.k. I will work for you for free just to help. I wish some detective would offer their services, not for them but for Deorr.
@jackiemorrell2298
@jackiemorrell2298 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, the only reason they brought the grandfather and friend were to misdirect the police investigation - give the police someone else to investigate and blame. This case has always bothered me, to many changes to their stories which is always a red-flag.
@valleygirl2530
@valleygirl2530 2 жыл бұрын
Changes and Contradictions. I’m glad I’m not LE in Lemhi County. What a mess.
@Lauren-bd2fr
@Lauren-bd2fr Ай бұрын
I definitely think you’re onto something with the friend- they wanted him to take the blame if cops realized it was a homicide. I can’t imagine trying to put the blame on my elderly parent though… that seems too far even for monsters. However, if they are guilty I 100% would not put it past them
@davidbrienlantry8760
@davidbrienlantry8760 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when an expert, in any field, uses the "Sword of Damocles" to illustrate a point, particularly a winning point. It immediately creates a vivid picture in my mind and I almost always end up agreeing with that person.
@Jimmy911ism
@Jimmy911ism 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a condition on Damocles' sword? Like Damocles was a king who lived under duress in that the military would kill him if he failed them? Something like that. Doesn't apply here.
@davidbrienlantry8760
@davidbrienlantry8760 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jimmy911ism a simple Google search will clarify this for you.
@Fern635
@Fern635 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I read old newspapers for fun. There were so many children who 'ran away' or 'disappeared.' It makes me wonder how many parents have got away with murder over the years. I'm glad we live in an age where unsolved child disappearances are the exception rather than the rule.
@mario-qi3yw
@mario-qi3yw Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Grande for reviewing this case. It’s heartbreaking.
@wandacole5784
@wandacole5784 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'll tell ya human beings are completely terrifying.
@LeeDee5
@LeeDee5 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Humans are much more sinister than whatever else might be lurking in the forest.
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 2 жыл бұрын
@@LeeDee5 This is true. I recall watching that documentary Grizzly Man and being shocked at just how much it takes to get a bear to maul you. The guy had zero knowledge of wildlife and it took years of acting stupid around bears to get one to eat him. It's actually quite a bit harder to get yourself killed in the wilderness than people generally think. On the other hand, it is *very* easy to die from other human beings.
@barbarastrayhorn4667
@barbarastrayhorn4667 2 жыл бұрын
True. We are the reason the human race is in a world of hurt.
@kellyb1420
@kellyb1420 2 жыл бұрын
This case is very similar to Summer Wells case? Disappearing with out a trace! Its mind boggling how he just disappeared.
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 2 жыл бұрын
Really only to the degree that both were apparently in remote/sparsely inhabited places when the "vanished." I'd say the chances of death caused by someone outside the family is *much* higher in the Summer Wells case than this one. In fact, I lean (slightly) towards Summer Wells not being killed by someone inside the home, while I see little chance De'Orr's outcome was anything other than death by the parents or one of the other two people with them (with accidental or negligent death more likely than premeditated murder).
@sandygrogg1203
@sandygrogg1203 2 жыл бұрын
I thought thr very same thing..
@adriel7229
@adriel7229 4 ай бұрын
Very similar to Summer! We don't know what happened to the children but the parents definitely know and covered it up.
@irenegriffin3050
@irenegriffin3050 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of DeOrr the other day. Such a sad story, poor little guy. :-(
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 2 жыл бұрын
Am pretty sure the little boy didn't go on this spontaneous trip at all. One of his parents killed DeOrr, probably in a fit of anger, and they took along the other two people as "witnesses" to their story. If you watch true crime stories about children who got lost in the woods, large numbers of viewers believe there are always kidnappers and wild animals lurking around, ready to pounce any minute. Never mind by far the most likely explanations are 1) the child just got lost -- very easy to do -- had an accident, and fell into a place where his body could not be seen, or 2) the parents killed the child, and took the body out to the wilderness to dispose of it. I'd bet big money that DeOrr's parents had seen shows like that before, and thought "here's a plan!"
@shanewinas6194
@shanewinas6194 2 жыл бұрын
The boy was at camp site . You Isaac credible and police also believe so. All four conspiring? No way. Parents started publicly accusing grandpa and Issac
@shanewinas6194
@shanewinas6194 2 жыл бұрын
Issac telling truth Bob old and sick Parents got rid of him that night or on their way to town
@shanewinas6194
@shanewinas6194 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think 🤔
@sarahholland2600
@sarahholland2600 2 жыл бұрын
In interviews, they honestly don't come over as bright enough to plan the week's meals never mind a murder . Plus a cadaver dog alerted there as did sniffer dogs. I'd say accidental death covered up.
@Jimmy911ism
@Jimmy911ism 2 жыл бұрын
The following is only a mere theory: The 35yo friend, Isaac, was brought along as a patsy. The plan fell away though: not only did he not hear what the mom called to him, he didn't even hear her at all. Unless he has a hearing impairment, then she never called out to him. That story sounds so weak anyway. Not thought out at all or just stupid reasoning. Boy is either dead or illegally adopted by another couple. I'm not seeing grief, so am leaning toward the adoption.
@Samurai78420
@Samurai78420 2 жыл бұрын
At 43, I don't have any kids that I helped make. But I've had the privilege and honor to have helped raise several kids of varying ages. I virtually never let the young ones out of my sight, but as you real parents know, the couple times one slipped away for a minute, I was an absolute WRECK. So this one stings a bit
@kristipatterson9952
@kristipatterson9952 2 жыл бұрын
This story has always been a big mystery for me. If the parent(s) did this, they won't be able to hide from justice for long. With so many "no body" cases going to trial, it's not as unusual as it used to be. Thanks, Dr. Grande! 💙💙💙
@maxalberts2003
@maxalberts2003 2 жыл бұрын
Why is this even remotely considered a "mystery"? The entire event was arranged from beginning to end by the "parents" to get rid of the kid. The jacket he supposedly wore on that trip was found in the "parents'" apartment when they were evicted from their apartment.
@Ms_Mary69
@Ms_Mary69 Жыл бұрын
@@maxalberts2003 you do realize he could have more than one camouflage jacket? JS
@thepostofficeprince8819
@thepostofficeprince8819 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the theory that the boy never even made it to the trip. That they did something to him before they even went and used the trip as an excuse for him to go missing.
@mamacito1795
@mamacito1795 2 жыл бұрын
Have u read or seen the show based on the cry? I got those vibes from this. Setting up this elaborate scene to make it seem like the child was alive and with them when in reality *spoiler alert* the child was already dead and buried.
@thepostofficeprince8819
@thepostofficeprince8819 2 жыл бұрын
@@mamacito1795 no I haven’t, how can I find it?
@2manybooks2littletime25
@2manybooks2littletime25 2 жыл бұрын
This whole event sounds too well planned. Bring an acquaintance and an elderly man who uses supplemental oxygen and whose mentation is questionable to a family camping excursion?? The boy goes missing and everyone is saying, "I thought that he was with you!" Stories and memories are sketchy at best, and change at worst. Find the motive for wanting the child gone and you'll find out the who, what, where and how.
@jasonharris1636
@jasonharris1636 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the "when".
@2manybooks2littletime25
@2manybooks2littletime25 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonharris1636 I knew that I forgot one! Thanks! 😊
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 2 жыл бұрын
Who brings an old man and a friend with them, if they're planning on murdering their child? Something happened, I just don't think it was planned.
@kingayy9267
@kingayy9267 2 жыл бұрын
The grandfather's questionable mental state is what makes it seem genuinely to have been an accident. Why would they count on him to bolster their supposedly fake story? Unfortunately, mishaps like this happen every single day. Similar to a child drowning in a pool surrounded by family: it's not outside the realm of possibility for everyone involved to have truly believed the baby was being watched by someone else.
@shanewinas6194
@shanewinas6194 2 жыл бұрын
Your right on the money Bring two idiots as a cover no mystery here parents guilty as hell
@snookieg2409
@snookieg2409 2 жыл бұрын
I had not heard that the parents both remarried and moved out of state. I have been suspicious of the parents from the very beginning. I had not heard they had both remarried and moved away. I know each person/family reacts differently, but it is not uncommon at all for parents to turn a child's room into a shrine, not change their phone number (for older children who might remember the #) or refuse to change any number of things with the faintest hope of the child returning home. Something happened and they were lucky enough, though they probably think it was because they are smart enough, to get away with the crime. Sometimes, criminals just happen to do everything right by accident. Sad.
@ThrashPolice
@ThrashPolice 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sometimes the bad guys win
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 2 жыл бұрын
This is a case where virtually the entire public felt sure they were murderers and treated them as such. Maybe they did kill their kid, or cover up his death, but even if I were completely innocent, I can't blame them for wanting to relocate given the level of hatred directed at them. The not changing their numbers thing is mainly parents of a child who was old enough to remember a phone number when he went missing. This kid was 2 years old and wouldn't remember a phone number or address. If a child goes missing and isn't found within 72 hours where's about a 95% chance the child is never found. Probably even higher given where this happened. By the time they moved away, there was essentially zero chance DeOrr was going to be found alive. Not every person wants to set up some shrine to make themselves depressed every time they walk past their child's old room.
@gristamshackleford2102
@gristamshackleford2102 2 жыл бұрын
yea 8 months later the both remarried. so the boy isnt even missing for 1 year and they both are meeting new boyfriends/girlfriends, going out on dates and getting married. i'm wondering if they each had wonderful joyous wedding ceremonies. like you said everyone reacts differently but 8 months seems way too soon. i saw the missing 411 movie about this case and i didnt even really suspect the parents, i kinda did but like the last on the list. now im rethinking it and may watch it again
@songbirdy
@songbirdy 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think they were married to begin with. And it isn't unusual for a couple to split after the loss of a child. The shared trauma is too much and they cannot move on together.
@cosmicallis7936
@cosmicallis7936 2 жыл бұрын
@@gristamshackleford2102 I honestly don't think that case belonged anywhere near that topic, let alone having any place in that movie, what a crock of crap!!!🤦🤦😡😡 That kid was either killed or perhaps sold (makes sense if the parents needed money so bad) they showed such a lack of caring, lack of emotion.... Suspicious vibes for sure and reeks of bs imo I hope that trash doesn't reproduce again, either one of um!!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡😤😤😤🤬🤬🤬
@kristenjustkristen9462
@kristenjustkristen9462 2 жыл бұрын
Such an odd case. Makes me incredibly sad for little Deorr and for the missing adopted brothers Orson and Orrin. How can children just up and vanish like this in today's world??
@heathernikki5734
@heathernikki5734 2 жыл бұрын
Yasss! So excited to hear this! I have ALWAYS gotten terrible vibes from these people, especially the mother. They never even say his name, just "little man", like Lonzie Barton's "mother".
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people call they baby sons "little man". It's really impersonal and almost sounds as if the parent does not want to have the responsibility of a baby and would prefer he was grown. It's weird.
@heathernikki5734
@heathernikki5734 2 жыл бұрын
@@garmtpug YES thank you. I hate it too, I thought I was the only one who thinks it's weird & stupid
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
@@heathernikki5734 I'll bet a lot of people feel the same way, but just don't realize it until someone brings it up. :-)
@VersusArdua
@VersusArdua 2 жыл бұрын
@@garmtpug it's just one of those innocuous pet names. Sure you're probably right in some cases, especially this one, but I feel like it's mostly innocent. It's like when people call their partner 'baby', it's not like they secretly wish their better half was a baby. At least I hope not.
@appledapple1899
@appledapple1899 Жыл бұрын
​​@@garmtpug you "hate" it? You are filled to the brim with hatred when someone calls a kid "little man?" Are you also full of hatred when they say "young man?" Seems pretty silly.
@jcdenton6074
@jcdenton6074 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for casting light on this, the first time I saw them in Missing 411 I was extremely suspicious of their behavior and story. Had to be the parents...
@cassiemontgomery45
@cassiemontgomery45 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Idaho Falls area for a little over a decade and I've been to Leadore due to my first husband being an avid sportsman. It would be pretty easy to lose track of anyone in the wilderness or "out in the middle of nowhere " areas that are common here in Idaho. I don't understand why these people didn't have DeOrr in their sights at all times. I've known parents to put small children in harnesses while enjoying the great outdoors. I remember this case when it happened and I don't know if the parents had anything to do with the poor child's disappearance but they were clearly incredibly negligent.
@chanchan5349
@chanchan5349 Ай бұрын
I put my daughter in a harness when she was 1-3 yrs old. She began life running! She walked early, was very tiny & beautiful, never met a stranger…etc. She also was a born Houdini so I found a harness that zipped up the back. Children are so easily lost or get away from you.
@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568
@iwatchbaywatch-notyourmoth1568 2 жыл бұрын
When you can’t think of anything funny to say, Dr. Grande uploads sagacious content just about everyday at the perfect time 👍
@Wistful77
@Wistful77 2 жыл бұрын
Serious with a few witticisms. Perfect.
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr. Grande💖 I've delved DEEP into this case & I personally don't think DeOrr was ever there....
@sheilacooper8361
@sheilacooper8361 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with you
@sheilacooper8361
@sheilacooper8361 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure they found a boot or something like that, the parents said he was wearing when he went missing in their home.
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheilacooper8361 ~THANK YOUUUU GIRL!! I'm a forensic psychologist and I go from prison to prison and deal with the worst of the worst kind of offenders including rapists, child molesters, murderers, serial killers Ect. & Considering I stare into the face of killers every single day, I can literally look at their faces in the interviews that they've done and see nothing but straight guilt!!💯
@sheilacooper8361
@sheilacooper8361 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know that they intentionally killed him. I question that. But I do think something happened that they're covering up.
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheilacooper8361 ~I don't know about the boot but I know 100% fact that they did find the camo jacket that they claimed he was wearing when they went on the camping trip....
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 2 жыл бұрын
Masterful analysis by Dr. G. I can still see the little chap stomping around in those cowboy boots. I believe the parents plotted to kill him, and to use Issac as a scapegoat.
@maxalberts2003
@maxalberts2003 2 жыл бұрын
That's really the only idea that makes any sense whatsoever.
@w.harrison7277
@w.harrison7277 2 жыл бұрын
Why in God's name would the parents want to kill little DeOrr? He was taken by an animal and dragged into a hideout no one ever found.
@debra6513
@debra6513 Жыл бұрын
We’re You Born yesterday??? Parents kill their kids about every 5 seconds in this world!
@prettyinink1661
@prettyinink1661 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favorite video from you , second only to the staircase deaths by that gang of owls 🦉 OG fans know which video
@Babebubby
@Babebubby 2 жыл бұрын
As usual, you're so right Doc! My son died 2 years ago and I'm still not right in the head! There's absolutely no way I could think of something like that after that kind of trauma! ☹
@esme68
@esme68 2 жыл бұрын
My deepest sympathy goes out to you and your beloveds. X
@marys3127
@marys3127 2 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry you had to endure the loss of your son. No human being should have to go through something that awful.
@risenfromashes2012
@risenfromashes2012 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for your loss. That’s a pain that no one should have to experience.
@Babebubby
@Babebubby 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you all!
@nadjaannabel1
@nadjaannabel1 2 жыл бұрын
I am so very sorry ❤️
@swhite8381
@swhite8381 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know these parents or have any affiliation with them but I just felt the need to respond on your comments about grief and how the mom got married 8 months after the disappearance of Dior. We humans have a hard time dealing with pain like grief and it’s not at all uncommon for a grieving person to jump into a relationship because they are trying everything in their power to feel better and to get away from the pain of heartache . Nothing works but we still try .
@julielumsden5184
@julielumsden5184 2 жыл бұрын
From your information these two “ parents” seemed to be more interested in shopping and finding a creek with big fish, than being concerned about their child. So very sad an innocent child lost his life through neglect
@shanewinas6194
@shanewinas6194 2 жыл бұрын
Not neglect murder
@SM-sy5cd
@SM-sy5cd Жыл бұрын
Who gets an elderly man who is on oxygen to babysit? There is no way he could physically take care of that little boy. I ‘ve been watching this story because it was featured on David Paulides Missing 411 documentary’s. I would love to finally really know what happen to that sweet boy.
@Crystal.B.Dawned
@Crystal.B.Dawned Жыл бұрын
This weighed on my mind also, Missing 411🤔 that is…
@tessaducek5601
@tessaducek5601 Жыл бұрын
My belief is they counted on his being feeble, if you will. And agree with what the parents said.. So as not to look completely dotty. They said the boy was with him and he agreed. I honestly don't believe he was alive. Placing a deseased child wrapped in blankets in a car seat. The others can say. Yes he was there. Not realizing the truth. That has been my belief anyway. Just horrible how children are so disposable these days.
@renee1961
@renee1961 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Dr. Grande. This is so upsetting! That poor little Baby! I don't trust the parents. How can you Not watch a 2 year old BABY?? Thank You, Dr. Grande 💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏
@HappyHermitt
@HappyHermitt 2 жыл бұрын
Because they didn't want to go public, due to exactly what they knew would happen. Public opinion from inaccurate media reporting and media's own beliefs before or irrelevant to the facts. It happens everyday.
@kennethandrews6295
@kennethandrews6295 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. G, you're a madman with all the content. You're also really helping diagnose myself with mental disorders. I know I know, you fully support self diagnosis and I couldn't agree more. :) Plus you've been turning some comedy gold lately too. Thanks for all the videos.
@markfroggington335
@markfroggington335 2 жыл бұрын
You can't self diagnose yourself. Where's your degree?
@mwilson7842
@mwilson7842 2 жыл бұрын
Be careful self diagnosing. one could see oneself in so many illnesses 😅
@mmitchell4578
@mmitchell4578 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Grande. Have you heard of the Serenity Dennard case? 9 y/o girl runs away from a children's care home in the mountains, never to be seen again. Lots of rumors about what could have happened and what was going on at that facility. Would be very interested to hear your take on it~!
@Lily_049
@Lily_049 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. In the beginning, I was under the impression that Jessica & Vernal were walking down to the water - baby DeOrr attempted to follow them, and, one of them brought DeOrr back to the campsite & asked Grandpa & his friend Isaac to keep an eye on DeOrr. Grandpa said he would help keep watch over Baby DeOrr. I never heard about Isaac walking down to the water Jessica & Vernal. Not until very recently. (9/2021)
@MoonWomanStudios
@MoonWomanStudios 2 жыл бұрын
I had to watch this twice bc Dr Grande's voice is so soothing I fell asleep
@aprilread6620
@aprilread6620 2 жыл бұрын
been waiting for you to do this case. THANK YOU !!!!
@annabellebeckwith9283
@annabellebeckwith9283 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Dr. Grande do an analysis of the Ray Gricar case. Ray Gricar was a district attorney from Centre County, PA who went out one morning after telling his live-in girlfriend he'd be home sometime in the afternoon. He seemingly vanished. His computer hard drive was found in a nearby creek near the last place he was seen, and his car, a mini Cooper, was left in the vicinity as well.
@melodychance9399
@melodychance9399 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Grande, thank you for these videos. I hope to go into counseling someday and I find your content very fascinating.
@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata
@user-cs1un6sp1wRennata 2 жыл бұрын
These people, the parents are heartless! Great analysis Dr. Grande, thank you ♥
@capricorndragon7249
@capricorndragon7249 2 жыл бұрын
This story was featured in a "Missing 411" documentary.
@thors1fan140
@thors1fan140 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this one... thanks, Dr.G!👌😘
@abelis644
@abelis644 2 жыл бұрын
Poor little guy. I think he was dead long before the camping trip. Thank you Dr. Grande!!!
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for analyzing this case, Dr. Grande. This one has always interested me. Been waiting for this one! Thanks again! ❤❤
@rachelv9408
@rachelv9408 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you’re covering this case. Thank you, Dr. Grande!!
@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 2 жыл бұрын
Well, their suspicious behavior and the fact that every other possible events seems just de facto impossible or just very, very unlikely makes it clear, that the parents have to be somehow involved.
@Beckysinlondon
@Beckysinlondon 7 ай бұрын
Assuming you’re correct, where’s the body? Where’s the evidence of a death or blood or body? Wouldn’t that require the collusion of the other two adults? So 4 adults just ok with covering up the death of their baby, that by all accounts the love? It doesn’t add up for me 🤷🏼‍♀️
@silentfriend369
@silentfriend369 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel . :)
@suzerick75116
@suzerick75116 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for a “no fluff” cases! You get straight to story and facts. Keep up the good work!
@arielsullivan39
@arielsullivan39 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this one Dr.G !!
@liannadunten7326
@liannadunten7326 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that it was an accident caused by their own neglect or abuse. They didn't mean for him to die but are culpable in his death. Everything after is a panicked and callous attempt to avoid punishment.
@valleygirl2530
@valleygirl2530 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The parents didn’t get along at all but they put on a big show for the public and LE. They were stupidly lucky with their devious plans to dispose of their son’s body. But they haven’t fooled most people by now. They have no conscience.
@NPCHSN
@NPCHSN Жыл бұрын
It seemed like they were both getting rid of baggage. She got rid of her other kids, then convinced Vernal, who was NOT her husband, to go along with a late term abortion of sorts. They did this on their trip to the store. Did anyone ever do a medical evaluation to see if she was actually on her period? They drove back and took off walking to start the “missing” story into action.
@itscool770
@itscool770 2 жыл бұрын
I would never just assume someone is going to watch my child. I would make sure that someone is going to care for my child. There’s a lot that goes into someone watching a 2 year old. For example you need to let the caregiver know where the child’s diapers are, if the child already napped, what to feed the child. Where his snacks are located. Let them know to keep a close eye on the child considering the child is only 2 years old. Something is off.
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
This is so true! But unfortunately parents range along a spectrum from great to poor.
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
And this couple said at one point they left him with the sick old man and his "friend"? How would you leave a child with one, a total stranger and two, an ill old man? This is very suspicious!
@rudra62
@rudra62 2 жыл бұрын
@@garmtpug Some people just assume that anybody they ask will be responsible for their child, at a moment's notice, whether or not they even know the person. This "Watch my baby" scenario has happened to me more times than I care to think about.
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 2 жыл бұрын
@@rudra62 That's really scary when you think about it!
@rudra62
@rudra62 2 жыл бұрын
@@garmtpug Quite scary. Especially when the child being dumped off on a *disabled* stranger who is not capable of running after them.
@cmc0323
@cmc0323 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so informative & enjoyable - your mixture of humor, intelligence & case facts is so unique & refreshing.
@zensbleexperience3470
@zensbleexperience3470 2 жыл бұрын
👁👁 isaac has crazy eyes vibe. I always go by the eyes and sometimes the hair. Lol that's real science there.Thanks Doc 🌵🌵🌵🌵
@chuckharding6405
@chuckharding6405 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome detective skills.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this story, great choice Dr Grande, you never disappoint your viewers.
@lovingatlanta
@lovingatlanta 2 жыл бұрын
👍Thank you. This case has always disturbed & concerned me. 😞😭
@valleygirl2530
@valleygirl2530 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you chose little DeOrr’s disappearance (allegedly) to analyze - it’s now been 6 years. I saw the first news reports with the mom’s 911 call ~~ She takes her time to finally & calmly say “Ohh. By the way ~ MY TODDLER SON ~ umm ~ We can’t find him” ~ WHAT?? It’s one of the weirdest 911:calls I’ve ever heard. Plus ~ many details given by his parents don’t make sense. Women don’t go very far without tampons; who drives with a toddler (allegedly) at night to a faraway isolated campground??? Was the child even with his parents on the trip? I think DeOrr never made it to the campsite ~ something awful happened to him earlier thus the oddball coverup “last~minute” drive in darkness to the most remote campground in the county. When was the last time anyone else actually saw little DeOrr alive? I don’t think Isaac truly saw him. No photos of DeOrr at the campground exist. I don’t understand why LE has not yet charged at least one of little DeOrr’s parents for Negligence. Dr. G. Your description is very thorough - more so than mom’s & dad’s. I’ve always thought they’ve been successful in their coverup. So Far anyway…..
@gerrithoevers
@gerrithoevers 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Grande! I have been waiting aong time for this!
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys see the perfect harmony that exists between doctors shirt color and his wife's decorative cactus "Harvey two face". This is uplifting. 💙
@JustDr.S
@JustDr.S 2 жыл бұрын
It looks beautiful. Maybe Mrs.Grande sets the stage for the doctor! ❤
@lanceanthony198
@lanceanthony198 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown Dr Grande!
@lsteiner9304
@lsteiner9304 11 ай бұрын
Excellent Dr. Grande as usual. Love your reasoning and intelligence. Hope justice is served for that innocent little boy.
@karrifohey7848
@karrifohey7848 2 жыл бұрын
This analysis/summary is the best I gave heard. I have watched doc type presentations with interviews and I didn't grasp as much info as I did from your video. You cleared it all up. Thank you!
@rainn4me
@rainn4me 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande thank you so much for your tireless dedication to your channel, I really enjoy your content. I wondered if you've ever considered analyzing the Adrianne Reynolds case? Again thanks so much for sharing your professional analysis of these various cases truly fascinating.
@theresar4617
@theresar4617 2 жыл бұрын
Hello and good day Dr. Grande. Good to hear from you as always :)
@theresar4617
@theresar4617 2 жыл бұрын
Why on earth do we still use/rely on lie detector tests? I really don't understand the reason.
@carriefawcett9990
@carriefawcett9990 2 жыл бұрын
817k subscribers!! So well deserved, I can't wait to see you reach 1million, Dr Grande 🤗
@CAborn1112
@CAborn1112 Жыл бұрын
Catching up on old videos! Thanks Dr. G for the consistent uploads!💪
@hellgirlheleena
@hellgirlheleena 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was interesting that the grandmother asked her daughter if she did something with Dior. I can’t imagine my mother ever asking me that. The Grandmother also thought her husband could’ve been negligent and lost the child. Sad all around.
@teresaestevezalvarez664
@teresaestevezalvarez664 Жыл бұрын
Dior's parents wanted to disconnect themselves from each other for the rest of their lives. Don't know whether Vernon's truck was analised for blood or cadaver dog detection. Another possibility is that they sold the little boy and was handed over somewhere. Its really surprising how quickly they renewed their lifes after 'loosing' their son Dior. My best wishes to Dior whatever he might be. God bless you.
@38201013
@38201013 11 ай бұрын
I think DeOrr was sold too.
@gloriaelmore9092
@gloriaelmore9092 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting episode! Enjoyed the analysis.
@8cyl6speed
@8cyl6speed 2 жыл бұрын
Pumping out fantastic videos! You deserve more views!
@solidshade81
@solidshade81 2 жыл бұрын
Just to play Devil's advocate in regards to scenario#2: a lot of people thought the parents killed that baby that got carried off by a dingo until they found the poor little mite's body in its cave. I'm not by any means defending anyone. I'm just saying strange things are possible and sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
@rnoelle1218
@rnoelle1218 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think this poor little baby even made the trip- something happened to him before they left😶😔🥺😢
@barbg
@barbg 2 жыл бұрын
I value the true, complete and dispassionate information you offer in your posts - especially when the subject is a child. Thank you.
@ladymopar2024
@ladymopar2024 2 жыл бұрын
Great break down and story, I love all the new edition that you put into your new videos I also love your new channel I do dishes and hang out to them great fun oh and your new book is it make my Q can't wait to read
@EmGee410
@EmGee410 2 жыл бұрын
I would love if you could do a video one time explaining polygraphs in general. Exactly what it is they measure and why they are unreliable and pseudoscience. I understand they are not allowed in court unless both parties agree to allowing it prior to taking the test, which if it’s all BS I find strange altogether.
@chad3232132
@chad3232132 2 жыл бұрын
I think legislators should outright ban it as a police tool altogether. I don't even buy that all police know it's pseudoscience but use it as a tool for extracting confessions. I've seen many cases where the police ruled out a person who was guilty of the crime due to "passing" the polygraph, only to later discover proof the person did it.
@enderthexenocide760
@enderthexenocide760 2 жыл бұрын
They are admissible in federal courts and like 20 state courts, as well as most states in pre-trial considerations. Polygraphs aren't as bad as Dr Grande makes them out to be, it just highly depends on the polygraph examiner. The main problem is different examiners may interpret things differently. If they were just a tool for tricking stupid criminals into confessions then the Dept of Defense wouldn't use them when candidates are up for security clearances and the CIA wouldn't use them to screen applicants. I wouldn't trust some local cops or sheriff to give me one, but that isn't because of the polygraph, it's because of the clowns that would be administering it.
@sherri1027
@sherri1027 2 жыл бұрын
This video just started and I can't wait to hear what Dr. Grande have to say. I did alot of research and have been broken hearted and angry about this poor child. I remember it being said that the grandfather was not fond of the child. The guy they brought along, he was confused to why he was invited to attend that weekend and if I remember correctly, he lawyered up because he felt they were trying to put blame on him and he told the police quite a bit of information. One being he felt he invited only to be used as a scape goat. An animal managed to carry Dior without knocking off his boots and hat, lol!! Funny not funny! I'm curious to know what kind of life insurance policy they had on Dior? They have to live with themselves for the rest of their lives. I would need to seek professional help and be sedated at all times if I were to accidentally kill anyone! Just horrific!!
@michaelbarry5575
@michaelbarry5575 2 жыл бұрын
Soo kind of you.
@mariamaria2751
@mariamaria2751 2 жыл бұрын
This poor little l e boy and kyron horman
@leahberry3167
@leahberry3167 Жыл бұрын
You have the best intuition. This is on point!
@colleenc.9900
@colleenc.9900 2 жыл бұрын
Look at you lol I honestly have the biggest smirk on my face. I remember when you were first recommended to me- you were so small! Really happy for you! Thank you for the great, educating and entertaining videos ✌️😊
@carolinemaybe
@carolinemaybe 2 жыл бұрын
Lol was thinking the same thing.
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