I've had the Wicked Edge for a year and a half now and love it. I have sharpened for myself, friends and family and they're all impressed with the edges I've put on their knives. One of my bosses at work brought me his Coast Cutlery hunting knives for deer. The year before he almost threw it in a ditch it barely got through 4 ribs on one doe during field strip. I did his knife, and it zipped through 4 deer before starting to dull.

I was one of those people with WE probs. I guess some of the early gens were off by a few deg. At first we thought it was the bar, but then figured out the deg screw was off. Then i ran into some probs with (short) small folders, in which i just put it as far as it could go. But dont hope for 15deg on some, unless you get mad enough to sharpen away some aluminum! Oh yes i did. For full flats, fill in the negative space with something. And for knives with no sharpening choil, either grind the plastic guards down on the dia hones, or match the grind grind with a dia file, which is what i did. And if you can sharpen a spyderco mantra 2... congratulations youve completed level 5 and youra master. : ) hope this helps some, thanks for the angle cube idea smokeater!! Oh and Kyle at wicked edge helped me with my issues with next day ship, 2 b expected... right? The end.

I completely agree. I had looked at numerous systems while shopping around, including the Nirey, and decided to spend the extra money on the Wicked Edge. I've never looked back or regretted it ever since. Everyone I've sharpened for has been impressed. Even my own mother's "back of the drawer" knives are resting back in the block again.

Thanks for the great videos! You do a great job in them. I've never been a knife guy but recently I took advantage of my fire job to purchase a hinderer. The thing is amazing. That led me to try to learn how to sharpen the darn thing. I went from an oil stone to the spyderco system and, after watching your and modifiedz videos, a wicked edge. I called them yesterday and, as a responder, qualify for a 25% discount. Can't wait for it to get here. Keep up the good work.

Great video. I bought both a KME knife sharpener for my scandi-edges and a Work Sharp knife and tool sharpener for my convex edges for less than $170 shipped and get fantastic results.The Wicked Edge charges an extreme amount of money for their system considering the significant design flaw you showed and the value of other products on the market, I think. The KME sharpener eliminates the problem you showed, by design, is smaller, lighter and just as precise and sturdy and works with any stones

Does the southern drawl dull your knives quicker?

Your observation about the left side being the stationary side and causing the right side to be off is spot on. The only issue I see (which sure as heck might be a non-issue) is that you used the base as a zero point instead of the flat of the blade. The blade should actually be your reference point for zero when selecting an angle so that you can counteract the differing angles on each side based on the angle at which the stones meet the blade, not the angle that the rods meet the base. It seems to me that would yield a more uniform edge overall. Just a thought really.

Great video! Knife sharpening is a skill you have to learn no matter what method you use. I have acquired a few sharpeners along the way. Ive had to learn to adapt to all of them. Each one has its own quirks..... Along with the operator who has a few quirks of his own!!! Practice with whatever you have and you will become good at it. I've seen a friend sharpen his knife with a coffee mug and the top edge of his car window! Sharp enough to do the paper test......

Do any of these clamp rigs sharpen serrated edges?

i recently got a wicked edge, i got the pro pack 1. i noticed after some sharpening that the things you turn and tighten on which angle you want come lose.. is this normal?, and also they dont always get the angle i want when i tighten them, the move slightly. any tips on how to fix this? thanks

Thanks for making this video. I really enjoyed it and think you're a pretty funny host. Keep up the great work!

Wow, people really need to think before they post ... Smokeeater, you did even make comment in your video about "zeroing" the angle cube + you showed doing it ... so nice of you to thank crypto for "educating" you - gentlemanly of you ;-)

Great informative video 👍 from the UK

Where can I get the hole punch you use to cut out the handle stops for the wicked edge? what size is it? and what size is the hole in the center?

Again a great Tip Video...Thx Bro

trying to decide which Wicked Edge to buy. one like yours with the micro adjustments or I think they call it a gym 3 the one that has the little flip over arm which locks the blade in. if you had your choice which one would you prefer?

Enjoy ur vids man. Just subscribed this week.

Thanks for the tips and tricks

Can you get 10 degrees with this thing without angle adapter for regular kitchen knife?

Nothing I like better than to having to fix a brand new product.

Thanks for uploading the video. Just bought a WE and I'm learning how to use it. Is this covered in the manual? I got to admit, I don't remember seeing instructions like this.

Thanks for the video, I appreciate the way you break this down. I have a question for you. If the left side jaw does not move and the right side opens up by a degree or so wouldn't the angle be off to compensate for the thickness of the knife making things accurate? I am new to all of this sharpening and I am considering one of these systems. My question comes from wanting to learn. i was wandering of the jaws hold this knife perfectly up and down. If not the off angle might be compensating for the off set holding position. Just a thought. If you can shed some light on this that would be great! Thanks again.

Btw just wondering, did you mount it on the wooden piece or did it come that way ? Thanks, Mark in Ky.

My grandfather, former Army Ranger, used to sharpen his Ka-Bar on a rock he'd pick up from the edge of the river, and then proceed to cut firewood, trim line, and filet fish with it. If he saw me take out a digital angle-measuring tool before I put an edge on my own knife, he'd backhand me into the dirt. The 21st Century has brought us the Cult of the Needlessly Complicated.

The jaws on the system aren't parallel holding the knife. If you adjusted the vise screws to parallel, would that help with more equal angles?

Cool hints to fixed a flawed expensive unit, btw what was your intro song if I may ask?

Thanks man, it seems like some people just can not grasp the concept. LOL! Great product!!

I appreciate it brother, thanks for watching

Hey brother what u thinking of the kme sharpner?

Hey mate! Long time no see [well from my side anyway]. Always love your vids =] As you may guess Im researching a newer sharpening system besides the sharpmaker. My brothers a aspiring chef [cuts a lot meat at a restaurant he works with his kitchen knives] and we both wanted a better system for kitchen and folding knives. But man alive is it expensive! long story short, just wanted to say I appreciate the vid, great bit of research. The hard parts the money lol

Thanks for your time in making this video. I just got my weps a few days ago and I would like to use your technique to shim the arms. Can you please tell me how you managed to get the pins out? Also the size of the washer used? Thanks

Hey brother, how much to whip out a quick edge on my 0560 CBCF ? Thanks, Mark in Ky..

came for the WE, saw the copper coils stoves in the back... cool, I never made one of those yet, as my tektoba capillary hoop stoves, and BL's do damn good... may get a wicked edge later on, lansky diamond deluxe, with blue saphire, and leather strop with 2-3 micron jeweler's rouge, is doing just fine now, more work and time than the WE, but a good kit bang for your buck imo. kinda looking at the new KME... as it has infinite adjustments, best of both kits...

I like them both, the Balsa if you have a slight roll on the edge will roll it back where as I can't get the leather to do that. The Balsa also really gets the edge ready for that final mirror polish from the leather

Which wicked edge is this one?

overall, however, if you're producing a proper edge, a degree or so shouldn't affect the cutting performance all that much. unless you're super sensitive

Thanks I really don't remember the size washer I used but all you need is a decent nail punch and you can remove the pins

I understand for sure, I was once biased with the Edge Pro until I used the WE. I actually prefer it 10 fold over the Edge Pro now. I love the clamp, mine is jam up and I have no complaints over it. The diamond stones I love because to be honest I was tired of the mess the water stones makes. The WE is pretty accurate but not as accurate as the Edge Pro I admit. I use the angle cube on the WE and it works out great for it as well. Anyway thanks for sharing I appreciate it.

Good vid.. WOW you guys got some serious sharpening systems. If I had all those knives you have I guess I would have one too. Nice eqpt. The best when only the best will do. I'll have to check out the Wicked Edge. Haven't seen that one before now. Later Bro.

not being a native-english speaker...what's that piece of paper/ textile you're putting around the knife when you put it into the WE holder?

WickedEdge has a new version of the arm/clamp assembly with angle compensation screws that address this issue. Centering the clamp assembly on the pedestal helps with angle consistency also. Factory edges can have uneven edge angles that change the stone contact points. To take this out of the angle confusion, measure the angle on the stationary side of the clamp, mark the clamp and blade for position, take the knife out of the clamp,rotate the blade 180°, align marks, measure angle.

Actually the micro adjustments work really great, I actually tested the prototype arms for Clay, he gave me a set at Blade last year. The new industrial sharpener is going to be top notch but it's price point will deter a lot of people. I got to play with it at Blade this year, I actually was in the Wicked Edge booth for a while Clay has become a good friend of mine.

They work really well and they make the knife real secure

I do like the Edge Pro a lot, both systems are really good in their own way. There is actually flaws on both setups. This one is fast you actually have 2 sets of stones, you don't have to swap them around at all. I will do a video soon showing how it works.

where you pick up one of those angle guides ??? I like it, thanks for the vids

For the amount of $$ these things cost they should be precise, machine-fit, without the need for washers and garbage to make them "feel nice". Jimmy-rigging with scraps isn't what a 500.00 rig should need. Ill stick to Japanese water stones.

Well thank you I'm glad you enjoyed the video and like your host LOL! Thanks for stopping by I appreciate it

Good job,

which do you honostly think is the better, easier, faster system? good vid as always smoke!

Seems to me if you have to repair your machine by adding washers to fix it before your machine will work properly you need to take a look at what you're bought and why it needs repairing? Could you have gotten a machine that was missing the washer you added or are they all like that?

I will do a video soon, they both work really great

Dude this is so true.

thanks brother

Very true! haha. well I can say i just got my wicked edge today and put a mirror polish on my 0560, the thing will split a hair lengthwise! 1 micron and .5 micron finishing strops really did the trick. Im very happy with this system and i dont really understand why people find the need to bitch about every little detail. anyways good video, stay sharp brother!

I definitely understand what you mean, if you use an angle cube it is not a big deal but if you don't then yep one side would be different for sure. Still a good system though

Of course the angle cube has the ability to zero out with the push of a button so YES you are able to set everything exactly right. Yes I want the degree to be right especially if I have an angle cube to make it right. So the cube's accuracy is just fine especially if you zero it out. Thanks for educating me so much I appreciate it

This is a neat system and all. And I appreciate the video. However I've spent less than half of the lowest price of that sharpening system on a Harbor Freight 1"x30" belt grinder. I use 800 and 1000 grit belts, plus a Surgi-Sharp belt to get mirror polished convex edges on all my cutlery. I might have purchased one of these sharpening systems if they weren't so expensive.

Good video. The angle cubes are indeed accurate. Take it to a machinists bench and you'll find out. You don't need a lab, come one gimmie a break. Like the OP said, it's all relative. Once it's zeroed out it should be repeatable on both sides and accurate to with a half degree at least. That's still far more accurate than anyone can be by hand on wet stones.

I really like the jaws used by the Wicked Edge

Good video. I AM biased, for me the Edgepro is the best system you can get. The disadvantages with it are 1) the danger of scuffing the blade while moving it along the table. Taping the blade eliminates that completely. 2) The minute change in angle when using worn stones. The angle cube and drill stop collar eliminates that completely. For me, on the Wicked Edge that upward standing blade, diamond stones and crappy clamp are dangerous, inaccurate & expensive. The WE is a gimmick, EP is a tool

That’s why I will spend the extra money and get the wicked edge #3 ,we’re both jaws close together at the same time. Works better for full flat grinds

Nice Vibrams!

I wonder if the Russian Knife sharpening system has the same bug when you flip it 180 deg.

damn brother i thought you were a edge pro guy!! you own both of em!!? seems like there both great sharpening systems although i feel like the edge pro looks to be a better design seeing you only have to get one good angle and flip the knife instead of having to match up to angles on each side and switch the stone every time you change sides of the blade! i feel like a lot of people are biased and never actually use both of them and just preach for the one they bought!

Would like to see the Wicked Edge in use. Edge Pro design seems like it would be faster to finish an edge. We will see.

Ok after the ceramic knife whih worked ok, next blade is razor sharp? So breaking in the stones and some refinement on the strokes seems to really matter. I should do a vid on some of the things Im picking up. Made some ghetto strops using green scotch tape (3layers on the 100 grits) and some different compounds I had around, wasnt sure if it would work but its better than I thought, mirror finsh. Very impressed.

Cool brother, thanks for the response. You can really tell that you only carry knives that you get out of a gumball machine. Please feel free to do a video and show us all how good you can freehand sharpen a knife. I know all my subs that use the Wicked Edge would love to see it

What size Pelican case is that?

Another tip if you take a rubber glove 🧤 cut one of the fingers off and cut the tip slide over your ball joints on your weps keeps them from getting metal and stuff in the joints!!

they could have made the pivot point for the clamp in the middle, that would make the angle change the same on both sides. you would need to manually line it up and make sure it was straight but it would work

I suppose a lot of the issues or problems people have been having basically can be remedied by the angle cube then... also for smaller knives I'd like to recommend the low angle adapter accessory Peace

I might have misunderstood I get so much crap on here that it is not funny, the one degree will make a huge difference though when you are putting a mirror polish on a knife you can noticeably see the difference on the edge. It is crazy but if you are trying to put a mirror polish on a 400 knife you want it to be perfect. The Wicked Edge is damn near perfect now since Clay as come up with the micro adjustment arms. Take care and thanks for the chat

Forgot to mention Wicked Edge will also sell you a case for another $150 bringing your grand total to $1059.99.

taking a second to understand what's going on, and offering solutions vs. pissing & moaning - thanks!

Thanks for the video! Just for future reference chamois leather cloth is pronounced "shammy". Originally chamois leather came from the European mountain goat of the same name and in Europe is usually pronounced "sham-wah". I think most chamois leather comes from deer, goats or sheep nowadays and some cheaper stuff is a fabric that poorly simulates the real stuff.

Maybe not, I have just heard of a lot of people having some issues so I thought I could share what I have learned. I have not called anybody to ask them about the sharpener :)

The angle cube he uses is actually accurate to .2 degrees. Just thought you might want to know!

the edge bevel is approximately 20 degrees on the bottom part of the knife, but mathematically speaking, the angle decreases (becomes steeper) as it reaches the tip of the knife.

I don't care how out of level something is as long as you zero out the cube on the mounting base the wicked edge is mounted to, you will always get the right bevel that you setup on your knife. I will do a video showing exactly what I am talking about so that you understand. If you have never messed with one of these you will see what I mean.

The only other way to get "perfect" angles on both sides of the blade is to make both jaws of the clamp movable and independent of each other and a way to set a true zero after the blade is clamped in. After blade is clamped in and the gap between clamps is divided evenly, you can use your angle finder to set the true angle for each side. I think that we are over analyzing this thing. One degree difference is negligible and I seriously doubt if anyone could tell the difference in knife performance with just one degree difference.

I have sharpened an 8 in Chef knife on this system without any problems before

老外磨个刀还有这么多装备，牛！

I think you misunderstood my post. I didnot wanted to say that Wicked Edge is bad or unnecessary (im looking to buy some sharpening system myself) just i dont think that its a problem if its one degree off. I actually consider buying it. If you sharpen by hand chances are that you may be more than one degree off but i think it does not makes much of a difference considering sharpness. Wicked Edge may have flaws but this is not important one. And yes all my knives are under 100$ (gumball machine)

arent you supposed to tighten the lower screw. That will kick the base out to be even, hence even angle

I mounted the base on this one but you can buy a base from WE

Using 100-200 400-600 800-1000. I just shimmed up the joints now they work perfect. Im assuming maybe the stones need breaking in. Im going to try and sharpen a ceramic knife to help speed up the process. Going to give it some time, I must be doing something wrong.

that is terrible, not sure why you can't get a good edge just yet. What stones did you get and are you forming a good bur and removing it with very light pressure?

No it won't give an even angle, I always tighten the bottom screw. This setup is the reason Clay came up with the new arm system which now has a micro adjustment so you can overcome this difference

In my opinion it is the best system on the market and will put an almost perfect edge on a knife that is screaming sharp.

You could buy a couple really good knives and a decent guided knife sharpener for the price you pay for that thing. I would be willing to bet sharpeners less than half the price can do just as good.

I disagree, any type clamp system that works both sides of the blade is going to be off on one side, there is no if ands or buts about it. One good thing is the micro adjustment arms they came up with and you can dial in the angle to the exact setting you desire

I think it has to have one side that is stationary because if it were much more complicated I have saw a lot of people that would never figure it out

Honestly, don't you think the manufacture should drill out the right side 1 degree to make up the difference. The consumer shouldn't have to do anything except set it up and sharpen... Come on...

OCD does not allow for those variances, peeps need to relax about 1 or 1/2° & hopefully live longer!

and your angles are going to change very slightly as your stones wear out, but negligibly

u have gloves on ur feet

P.s. the reason I trust you ? Not sure,,,, guess cause we're both from the South, lol but honestly I've never had a hair whittling sharp blade in my life, and never had even heard of hair whittling until I heard you talk about it. Haha. Thanks again.

Man , I just checked out Wicked Edge web and with that 66 dollar spray I'll bet you could get a knife sharp enough to cut a fart.

hahahaha, I love all the whiners in these comments. I've sharpened tools and knives for years by hand but what won me over with the Wicked Edge is the organic shapes like an Emerson Commander. The ability to keep the exact blade shape and angles are a huge plus with these types of systems. If you are just doing basic blade shapes, chisels, plane blades then yeah, just stick to hand sharpening and stropping them. When you take things to the next level, look at the Wicked Edge or another similar system like The Edge Pro, or a Lanky, etc...

All they needed to do was make free floating clamps and used a widget clamp between the two to clampn the blade or like the floating plundge clamp on the WE3 system