Myth #2: Extraction Causes Flattening of the Facial Profile

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@67zillion94
@67zillion94 3 ай бұрын
Worse decision of my life was getting my teeth pulled, would’ve rather had crooked teeth
@BeccaJaneXOXO
@BeccaJaneXOXO Жыл бұрын
Tooth extractions completely destroyed my face and gave me a flat face.
@BeccaJaneXOXO
@BeccaJaneXOXO Жыл бұрын
@@jamescharles5907 two on the top and two on the bottom
@danishsayyed7597
@danishsayyed7597 Жыл бұрын
@@BeccaJaneXOXO lol mine too I have got cheeks inside Everyone telling me what happenede to your face I just dont know what to do why my cheeks has gone so inside after extractions !!!
@TheDonkyGamePlay
@TheDonkyGamePlay Жыл бұрын
I had to have my bottom molar extracted as a kid and one side of my face is flatter/rounder and less wide. My smile is uneven so is my face. It completely destroyed me and gave me serious self hatred issues or at least majorly fueled it. There isn't a day I am not conscious about it. It sucks. I was quite extrovertish happy kid but now I am the exact opposite. I am trying to live with it but it's hard, I don't know. I care for my skin, hair, eat healthy, work out but nothing helps, I still can't accept this. I know looks aren't everything but my image is sti important to me and I hate this imagine.
@geo745don
@geo745don Жыл бұрын
Me Too, I'm 51 Always look like I'm in the 27-29, now i look like Grandpa, 😭 😭
@jelena6608
@jelena6608 Жыл бұрын
What did they say was the reason for extractions in your case? Did you have teeth crowding?
@LordGodKing
@LordGodKing Жыл бұрын
John Mew's patients usually don't need wisdom teeth extraction, that should really tell you which method is superior. I'll take John Mew's approach over traditional orthodontics any day thank you.
@hoypauloyhoypauloy9415
@hoypauloyhoypauloy9415 Жыл бұрын
Healthy teeth are healthy teeth. No one should have the right to extract. We need our teeth! . Orthodontists in my day were all trained in a quackery for assembly line money grabbing. The dentists were in on it too by sending them patients. Extract and retract was run of the mill. A lifetime of regret is a long time . Nobody should have the the right to wreck a facial profile [with all the associated complications] of a teenager let alone an adult!
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 2 ай бұрын
It's confronting to know I probably fell prey to this practise and so many others globally, daily. Paying money for a minority complex. The proportions of ny face were perfect. The first time I took a selfie after the brackets were removed, I noticed the change and I cried. The kind facial expression was gone. Later I took a 2nd opinion and I explained to the dentist how I saw myself from the side on a picture taken at a work dinner party His response: then that was always reality ( in other words, that's how I alwaya had looked like(. He was so rude and condescending! Plus it was bs what he said bc before I had brackets I never saw myself looking weird on pictures. I'm angry again now. I want to leave him a bad review. I will do it
@hbups1123
@hbups1123 Ай бұрын
I mean look at the man who is speaking. You can see his face is downswung and recessed
@KB-jm1cr
@KB-jm1cr Ай бұрын
Are you stupid ? He`s just waaay overweight. You may never realize what`s behind those fat layers ? Plus, you don`t need a good chin or jawline to practice orthodonthics... The best basketball coaches I`ve ever seen in my life are were short as . Hope you get the point.
@lightthatfire4012
@lightthatfire4012 Ай бұрын
real he is jutting his lower jaw forward cuz his maxilla is recessed and he makes his patients that way too and i bet hes got sleep apnea with all that weight too
@healthwithjeremy
@healthwithjeremy 8 ай бұрын
Tooth extractions ruined my Life and collapsed my facial profile
@DanniBby
@DanniBby 7 ай бұрын
Which teeth did you get extracted that caused the change? Was it the wisdom?
@Bhudevivlogs
@Bhudevivlogs 4 ай бұрын
Regretting to the hell....same
@SudeepKs-ps3ix
@SudeepKs-ps3ix 3 ай бұрын
I got my premolars extraction I regret it 😢​@@DanniBby
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 2 ай бұрын
It ruined my charism / charm in my face 😢
@JawHacks
@JawHacks Жыл бұрын
We at JawHacks respectfully disagree. Extractions are mutilations. They are amputations. They result in the face not growing to full potential, or to shrinking as a result of the loss of place-holding teeth. Furthermore, they are totally unnecessary in the era of expanders like MSE (Maxillary Skeletal Expander). Instead of extracting premolars to create space to straighten teeth, just expand the jaws instead.
@jawley
@jawley Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!
@Mangoei
@Mangoei Жыл бұрын
my orthodontist gave me expansion but i still need my teeth removed 😨 are there any other solutions? i don’t wanna remove my teeth. the expansion helped bc instead of removing 4 i only need to remove 3 teeth! however still in a pickle 💀
@danielche2349
@danielche2349 10 ай бұрын
@@Mangoeiget more expansion? Hahaa. Did you have MSE?
@Mangoei
@Mangoei 10 ай бұрын
@@danielche2349 it’s not like they can infinitely expand your jaw, eventually it’ll hit bone (or smthing like that) they can’t expand anymore
@Hussein531_
@Hussein531_ 8 ай бұрын
What if you have an overjet and you already missing 2 premolars from your lower jaw, what else to do rather extracting 2 premolars from the upper jaw
@rpages007
@rpages007 3 ай бұрын
We should all lobby to change the dental association's official term from "tooth extraction" to "tooth amputation". It's hilarious when dentists try to justify extractions. You're removing healthy teeth period.
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I wonder if tte same goes for wisdom teeth. He extracted all 4 at once!
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
"Set of Twin Girls?" Those are actually Twin Boys, their names in the Documentary were 'Ben' and 'Quinton', The latter was the one who got the Orthotropics treatment....
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLGPq9JmvtqriX0.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE Here's a 27 minute, with the classic "60 minutes Aus" episode (with Derek Mahony and John Mew) that the guy mentioned in the video. Also features a "Dispatches" episode, that also starred John Mew. Both Starring John Mew, the Latter Starring Dr Derek Mahony, also the Twin Lads (wrongly referred to as "Twin Girls") appeared in both these documentaries too.
@BRoRN.
@BRoRN. Жыл бұрын
LOL You said the twins were girls when they were boys. How can you "teach" when you cant even LOOK AT A PICTURE. Yet, you believe extracting teeth has no affect on the airway or facial profile? You are beyond cruel and shouldnt have a license.
@suoraindemoniata2366
@suoraindemoniata2366 Жыл бұрын
no? there's pictures of two twin girls, you are talking about an other case
@laimaspa9770
@laimaspa9770 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, they ruin peoples faces and make their lives worse and get away with that while getting paid by people whos lives they ruin. Me included
@Polo-xm9xk
@Polo-xm9xk 7 ай бұрын
I had Invisalign to close small gaps aged 43. Dentist did IPR so similar effect to extractions. Destroyed my profile. Retruded my mandible & maxilla, over 100 postural & musculoskeletal problems. 5 years later reversed Invisalign, massive postural & profile improvement. Still not out the woods but getting better. Ruined my life. Orthodontics highly dangerous.
@Autism_moment_of_all_time
@Autism_moment_of_all_time 6 ай бұрын
brother your 43 youll be good
@Polo-xm9xk
@Polo-xm9xk 6 ай бұрын
@@Autism_moment_of_all_time Thanks but I'm almost 52 now and I live in permanent retainers (except for eating) otherwise my whole body relapses. Not found any doctor who can help.
@flyondonnie9578
@flyondonnie9578 Жыл бұрын
The father of extraction orthodontics (Charles H. Tweed) also claimed to have “hundreds of patients” whose facial profile was not adversely affected by treatment and even claimed that most were improved. Very similar to the claim you make here. So I downloaded his book as a pdf and looked at his cases. Flat faces. Flat faces as far as the eye can see. Hundreds of potentially attractive human beings mutilated, with a life of potential TMJ issues, sleep breathing problems, reduced attractiveness to look forward to. On the bright side, he paved the way for thousands of orthondontists to enjoy his reproducible business model and send their kids to private school.👏
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
Got a link to where his book can be downloaded? Or what's the title of it?
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsp9mcKpsbu6mKM.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE I haven't actually listened to it yet, (just a very rare audio recording, with no visual) But anyways came across this 56 minute black video, of just audio Titled: "The Incomparable Dr. Charlie -Tweed"
@flyondonnie9578
@flyondonnie9578 Жыл бұрын
@@luke14946 “Clinical Orthodontics” by Charles H. Tweed (there’s two volumes, either will do) search for the pdf, a place called oaktrust library has it for download.
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
@@flyondonnie9578 thanks, I thought that was the title you meant but wanted to verify anyways, the remaining Original Hardback books of that title would sell for X,XXX
@topdog5252
@topdog5252 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Tweed actually change his view on extractions later on.
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
2:22 or 2:23 those are NOT pics of someone who had Premolars/Bicuspids Extracted, could've atleast shown actual pics for this vid, that and between incorrectly referring to Ben and Quinton, as "A Set Of Twin Girls" there's a bunch of flaws with this vid.... And it's not a "Myth based on One Set Of Twins"....
@jasminbegum7337
@jasminbegum7337 3 ай бұрын
what if i have bimaxillary protrusion and all my teeth are sloped outside asking for a friend , will it still flatten me out and narrow my jaw
@kat1why
@kat1why 6 ай бұрын
I don't get the people who talk about things they are clueless about. They choose to be ignorant, even when faced with clear bright enlightening logic, contrary to their false beliefs. Saying that retraction doesn't shrink spaces and therefore faces is like saying that water isn't wet, but crying once your house floods. Stupid analogy but they say one thing, and at the same time contrary to itself.
@Sara6.0
@Sara6.0 5 ай бұрын
Who are these people? The people against extraction?
@SawChaser
@SawChaser 3 ай бұрын
What if you are born with a missing molar and remove the corresponding teeth because of elongation?
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 2 ай бұрын
My 4 wisdom teeth were extracted for my brackets 😢 My face lost charm and roundness plus the angle from neck to chin / jawline is less sharp. I cried for some months after the brackets were removed. All to straighten my upper front teeth which were a bit forward. I asked my dentist will my lips / profile change. He said " no you have enough lip" to have a small adjustment, it won't change visibly. Well it did!
@dr.rimsha5039
@dr.rimsha5039 19 күн бұрын
Same same my case.. worst ever decsion of my life .. my orthodontist fool me by saying tooth extraction wont cause any afect.. i lost my atractiveness
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 19 күн бұрын
​@dr.rimsha5039 very sorry for us both 😢 I think it's not only bc of my extractions but also the brackets. Both caused negative effect and my teeth bow is not round but more square..
@xdinizz
@xdinizz Жыл бұрын
Extraction of wisdom teeth or supernumerary teeth will not change the facial profile, but treatments with premolar extractions can indeed give a flattern aspect to the face
@David-xk9ui
@David-xk9ui 11 ай бұрын
What means flat face??
@DanniBby
@DanniBby 7 ай бұрын
What makes the difference? Because I’ve seen pics that show the wisdom teeth can also effect your face shape
@mirjamgorog8755
@mirjamgorog8755 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately even wisdom teeth removal changes the profile :/
@jelena6608
@jelena6608 Жыл бұрын
What is the solution to this then? I have this and teeth crowding,I'm 24 They told me to extract 4 premolars plus all wisdom teeth but I don't want to extract premolars
@koanzx1
@koanzx1 Жыл бұрын
DONT EXTRACT. search ORTHOTROPICS specialist around your area instead of orthodontist who will ruin your face. Expand your palate, expand your maxilla, research mike mew and the channel orthotropics on youtube. You are an adult you will probably need MSE (maxillary skeletal expander, basically it will give you more space thus reducing crowding) DO NO EXTRACT IT WILL RUIN YOU. NOT EVEN WISDOM TEETHS. I TALK FROM EXPERIENCE
@jelena6608
@jelena6608 Жыл бұрын
@priyanshunegi8135 nope, no matter what I dont want to get my premolars extracted
@KIA01144
@KIA01144 Жыл бұрын
@@jelena6608so what have you ended up doing? I’m in the same situation
@jelena6608
@jelena6608 Жыл бұрын
@@KIA01144 I didn't get the braces yet, I just removed all of my wisdom teeth and I'll get couple more opinions. Did you get one or more opinion on your case?
@KazimAtakaya
@KazimAtakaya Жыл бұрын
@@koanzx1 my wisdom teeth are growing outside of gums. but i want to save them. is it impossible? im 15 yo btw.
@topdog5252
@topdog5252 Жыл бұрын
Mike Mew claims he has never been granted a debate on the cause of crooked teeth by any Orthodontist on the planet. Regardless of who is wrong here, at least grant his request for a debate and go chat with him. It could literally be a quick zoom call! Just have a debate!
@fraai
@fraai 9 күн бұрын
there's no debate because they all agree about the cause lol
@gravyenjoyer
@gravyenjoyer 3 ай бұрын
Sickening
@shreya_sinha.
@shreya_sinha. 8 ай бұрын
I have one extracted but my wisdom tooth is horizontal so it fill the space and supports the bone phew
@hahahaolder238
@hahahaolder238 12 күн бұрын
Gave me free jaw surgery and my face looks slimmer from the front, BUT OOOOOOUH. my big lips have completely deflated from the side and my cheeks just pop out more than anything 🤦‍♀️
@luke14946
@luke14946 Жыл бұрын
I bring this up a lot, But on a British clinic's website, ("Dentistinbournemouth") they mentioned some Orthodontic case examples.... One of them was a girl treated Non-Extraction, with DAMON Braces in under a year (10 months) They said that she and her mother found them instead, as she was REFUSED NON-EXTRACTION by an NHS (National Health Service) Orthocuntist, (who would've insisted upon her having the "4 on the floor" even though it wasn't Necessary), and that it the "extraction-plan" that was proposed would take around 2 years to complete.... In that "classic 60 minutes episode" (With Derek Mahony, and John Mew) Derek Mahony mentioned that he previously saw 163 people seeking 2nd opinions, and said that all were able to be treated without Extractions, (whereas they were told elsewhere they'd need the "4 on the floor" and possibly their Wisdom Teeth out too).... He also said that it's unfortunately very easy to have a "Production Line" in Orthodontics, of patients coming in of around a certain age, getting a certain number of teeth out, then put through the Orthodontic Process.... (Rather than treating earlier, during Mixed Dentition before all 28 teeth have erupted....)
@zulmayucramendoza7654
@zulmayucramendoza7654 2 жыл бұрын
Traducción por favor...
@danyilmoskalenko232
@danyilmoskalenko232 Жыл бұрын
In principle, the author may be right, but he himself explained that this applies to class 2 and if all 4 permolars are not removed. And if they tell me to remove all 4 permolars, then facial changes can no longer be avoided. 😢 Also, if it is possible to correct defects of classes 2 and 3 by removing permolars, then what should class 1 do?
@Dragon-Slay3r
@Dragon-Slay3r 6 ай бұрын
The ran that spectical frog flat face to face the magpies because when I ran the molar this morning which they tried to make the cucumber from to dissapear had a flat top situation that's what the love of sister brush became my shoulder back and made Barcelona and the camel fall down while the other magpie used spiral stair cover to escape 😭😂
@memento_mori6019
@memento_mori6019 2 ай бұрын
Are you alright?
@Dragon-Slay3r
@Dragon-Slay3r 2 ай бұрын
@@memento_mori6019 depends on where the game is, anyway Prophet Muhammad told us Dajjaals paradise is Allahs Hell Dajjaals Hell is Allahs paradise that he made the believers in him go through I want to know is this whole game is helping Dajjaals cause so what is going to happen? Maybe ask the scholars they may know what's happening 😭
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 2 ай бұрын
​@@memento_mori6019😂 probably ate mushrooms.
@memento_mori6019
@memento_mori6019 2 ай бұрын
@@peaceofmindofpeace1650 their comments read like AI-generated word salads
@peaceofmindofpeace1650
@peaceofmindofpeace1650 2 ай бұрын
@@memento_mori6019 Ah yes that's it, word salad. Classical example. It does read like a bot comment.
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