I disagree. FR peaked in the first half of 2017.

@@TheGraemi 2006?????

@@parmecy8525 Well pointwise. He didn't won every match against Nadal. 😉 But I think that he uped his playstyle despite his age.

Fed's golden years were 2004-2007.

2006 and 2017 were Fed's peak.

yep and then you just want to get onto that roller coaster one more time because it’s so fun loll great match btw

"When it's over, you are relieved," so true.

I am blessed to be a Djoko fan

@Redatweaks those ppl are not fans tho

Ay poo

Not only in this match. I actually thought he hit more at their 2009 AO final.

@@TheTmat007 He hit more this final.

@@aleksamilosevic8792 Ok, maybe not more passing shots. And admittedly, I did not watch that entire 2012 match. But based upon highlights, it appear to me as though Rafa hit more ridiculous shots during his 2009 AO final.

@@TheTmat007 True,2009 ao final in the first 4 sets is the highest quality of any match purely shot making wise.

He did but Roger’s coverage at the net has gotten worse over the years. There have been over 100 times where Rafa passed Roger with a shot he could have gotten-no matter how good the shot is. Like at 13:10 Roger just stood there!!

And Djokovic was there in finals 3 times

There is no “big 4”. Murray is closer to Wawrinka, Del Potro and Cilic in accomplishments than he is to Federer, Nadal or Djokovic.

Federer didn't win a grand slam in 2012.

Brahma Bull really? I thought Wimbledon was a GS tournament but maybe they changed that in 2012 and no one told me.

@@juanantoniozuleta6575 sorry buddy . My mistake. I thought he didn't win win wimby in 2012. Obviously i was wrong

This whole match was an insane passing shot masterclass by Rafa

He has the best passing shot ever imo

Federer would lose so many easy points approaching the net only to get hit by a passing shot, especially early in his career.

💉

So true man

With that top spin on it. Fed was slumping, and was not doing a good job by not flattening shots. Through out the game he was lobbing balls nonstop, and even though nadal did too, it was nadal that took advantage of Fed

As a djokovic fan that's what i thought too and i agree with you.

That first set federer took charge and was on top of the baseline especially those first 5 games. You let federer sit on top of the baseline like that it doesn’t matter who you are he’s beating you. Nadal slowed down the pace started feeding him those high backhands backed him up a little, federer got passed a few times it was over federer utterly looked lost

in tennis the emotional moment counts a lot. Federer def Djokovic in wimbledon 2012, this same Djokovic we see here like a god. Remeber this and look the numbers and matches, Federer had a mental dominance over Djokovic until 2012, it may seem pointless, but, Federer would probably have a better chance of beating Djokovic in this tournament than Nadal. Djokovic had developed a surreal confidence against Nadal over the course of 2011 to 2012, and Nadal was suffering from it emotionally despite the effort. Djokovic was inside Nadal's head. on the other hand, Federer everyone knows, had a mental block against Nadal that was only broken in 2017. I think in all these years the defeats of Federer against Nadal were more a psychological problem for Federer himself. Of course, Nadal is a hero, he had all the credit for creating that insecurity in Federer's mind. But Federer was again more anxious than usual (and made a lot of choice mistakes in this match, if you look closely) simply because it was against Nadal. anyway it was another amazing match, that classic comeback from Nadal

@@fejuncor honeslty djokovic broke that mental block when he saved like back to back match points at the us open 2 years in a row 😂

​@@taxationistheft7047true, that guy is a fanboy so it makes sense why he said that

Plus mentally Nadal had the edge over Fed during this period. The mental game in top level tennis is the key, any top pro will tell you that. The fact that Nadal beat Fed from the go and always had an upper hand in their rivalry made Nadal believe he can always beat him if he can just hang in there and absorb the attacking pressure. Djoker took a while to get to that stage but post 2011 he did the same.

NTA Design Ltd You definitely a rafa fan

greatest shot maybe, not greatest point

@@CesarRodriguez-zh7zj Argumentum ad hominem.

The one before was great too.

federer needs to hit to Nadal's backhand then approach

no question...he has the best shots of all time on ANY surface

That was Nadal's shot.

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His backhand today makes his 2012 backhand look like an under-12's shot.

@@connorism69 his backhand is/was more raw power than technique

No... He sucka on hardcourts in earlier too..

@@connorism69 No lol. On slower courts his 2012 BH was great.

@@user-tk3hb6ui2o Nadal defeated Frauderer at AO 09 12 14....Nadal was better hard court player than Federer during 2009 -2014...

2009 Rafa at AO was unbelievable. 2012 was not. He really missed that aggressiveness of 2009 with the mental strength and his insane and consistent shotmaking. 2012 he would make ridiculous shots, but then he wouldn't be able to sustain his aggression and play too passive at times. 2009 he was insane at both sides of the game. The only version of Rafa that could beat Novak at Australian Open is the 2009 one. That one would have done it. Ever since than Rafa is good enough to win it, but always lacking that consistency in his shotmaking. I love Rafa, but it's clear that as much as his serve, backhand etc. has improved...it's his strength...the Forehand that has regressed the most. Rafa used to paint the baseline consistently and always rely on his FH DTL. That's how he beat Novak multiple times at US Open. In 2012 Rafa could've still won against Novak, but again, mentally he couldn't hold onto the 5th set. He messed up. 2009 Rafa wouldn't have. Even at his best at the AO against Fed, it was never too easy. Maybe that 1 time he beat him in straight sets. But aside from that...it was always close. But this year vs Novak....he played nothing like the lead up to the final. I think it's mental with him. It's clear that Novak gives Rafa the most trouble, especially at AO and Wimbledon. You cannot do the same thing and expect a different result. You have to change things up. Not sure if Rafa ever will.

@@iohohoihhiohoihooi877 I don't think so mate.. Rafa was in his prime and also in good shape physically and game wise in AO '12.. he was just at a ridiculous level.. it's just Djoker had a more ridiculous confidence (was riding a 7 match winning streak against Nadal no less !!!), more consistent shot making and more durable in the hours and hours of grind.. I'm a Nadal fan myself I remember that match like yesterday.. heck I watched the whole 6 hrs marathon.. it really hurts but Djoker just got a bit luckier that day.

Nadal's serve was nowhere near 2010 neither his backhand so while he was good, he wasn't his best. Also Nadal lost the final mentally when he missed the easy backhand at 4-2. Djokovic proved to be mentally stronger on the day.

@@iohohoihhiohoihooi877 OK, but who says the 2009 version would've been aggressive against Novak? That's the thing people miss. Just because a player played a certain way against one opponent doesn't mean they could play that way against every opponent.

@@truthseekertitan3986 Yes, it's right to admit that at AO '12 Nole beat a top version of Rafa. One of the few times he has.

Maybe one of the greatest finals of AO ???? It was greatest final of all times.

@@milanvesovic1703 i would go with the 2009 final as the greatest final of AO

@@Marc-vk7rl 2012 5h set was wayyyyyyy better than in that one

@@guarana6245 yeah the 5th set, but not the 4 before

@@Marc-vk7rl We could also argue that point, since this was the most physically grueling match ever, the longest one, and It was tense right when it should have been. Federer layed and egg in the breaking set, nevermind his beautiful tennis.

Yeah, definitely know what you mean. And there's no bonuses for cool points. For every flashy point that Federer wins, there's more points where he lets his guard down and loses a point should have won, or gets ground down into an unforced error off the backhand wing. Granted Federer was still winning matches against pretty much everyone else on the tour, but at the level of the big 3 [big 4], those tiny differences at crucial moments are the difference between winning and losing big matches

In any case, Nadal returned a lot of balls, his main strategy was that... Federer is the best player in history... Djokovic at least has more winning shots, he generates angles... Nadal is very basic.

​@@LuisLopez-fo6hxThere's no better passer in tennis than Nadal .

⁠@@LuisLopez-fo6hxSo it takes a very basic man to dominate Federer? And by the way, Federer is not even the second best.

​@@LuisLopez-fo6hxYour mom is basic. She had a retard son.

Of course

@MUFC and?? So what??? Like wtf is your point lmaoo soccer is more popular that is a known fact no need to say it. But you’re trying to make it seem like every sport is at competition with each other which it’s not. Keep in your lane because every sport is fantastic whether it be soccer, tennis, basketball, football, baseball, and even GOLF. Your sounding like a real Brad right now.

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Truth level...9999

Which is true of most of their matches from 08-13, and anything on clay lol.

so true. so many missed chances. Clearly he is the better player; has a habit on missing out on easy points though. Its a shame Federer is mentally so weak

1:02 ''Clearly the better player, so mentally weak''. I mean, what can the guy do better when Nadal's playing his best? Learn sport.

Asad Noor Fed's not clearly the better player. However, these matches aren't really "destruction" either, as Nadal fans tend to say they are. Usually they're still pretty tight, despite Rafa winning.

Djokovic is the GOAT. Defeated peak nadal in the final. Also defeated him in Wimbledon and is open finals.

@@aranyaism nadal also did the same thing

But talent is not everything. Federer is the weakest mentally of the big 3.

@@manidev12 True. He always crying like baby.

@@victorray9369 Not like a baby, like a man with passion for the game. Moron..

Talent is not everything

Federer makes more mental mistakes also because his game is more psychologically demanding, whereas Djokovic and Nadal just has a safer low risk strategy.

Nice catch!

Ricky Ponting

God he's sooooo annoying!

Dr. Mantis Toboggan .🚤🚲

Hahaha yea! :D

Have you seen Mats Wilander commentary in the French Open this year? It goes like this: -At the first stages of the match: Nadal is afraid of Wawrinkas ground strokes, one handed backhand is a beauty, two handed backahand is boring(I swear I heard him say this), no one can beat Wawrinka when he is on etc... -At the late stages of the match: Nadal is the greatest clay court player of all time and he's going to win the remaining majors this year (yup he also said that). I think Mats Wilander shouldn't be allowed to comment on tennis matches just because he was a great player, he's obviously very biased and can't restrain his personal preferences, someone like John McEnroe does a great job as someone who has been a great player also Mary Carilo does a good job. Overall I personally prefer the ATP guys Robbie Koenig and Jason Goodall, who are better apt to commentating a tennis match than anyone else in my opinion, they just know what to say and when to say it, especially Robbie.

But the highlights are ruined by the audio being slightly out of sync with the video

Yep. I agree.

So was that semifinal against Verdasco.

@@mutton7891 one of the best matches in tennis history

an iconic shot symbolic of Nadal’s dominance over Federer

I love how hist team point something with the finger and a smile

I think he finally got a coach who played Nadal and defeated him ...Lubicic helped Roger to believe that he could beat Rafa from baseline.....now he doesn't make the stupid approaches he made in this match... Having said that Rafa and Roger played only 1 match post 2014 Wimbledon(start of Nadal's decline) till AO 2017 ....Roger could have had gained more confidence had he played Rafa more during that time since Roger was playing at much higher level ...... But a match like AO 2017 was needed for Roger to overcome his mental demons against Rafa.....

Federer switching to the bigger racket has made his backhand vs Nadal at least 20% better and that really was the difference in their matchups since on the FH they are equally matched. In 2015 + 2017 (didn’t play in 2018 or 2019 on hardcourts) federer knows Nadal serves to his BH and is ready to deliver a deep return to nadals BH. Then he runs around and hits a forehand hard to nadals FH which is the weaker side in defence. Problem solved, french open 2019 was a bit unlucky due to the wind kind of ruined a match between 2 players in top form, Nadal deserves that one. Federer revenge the next match, which by the way he was winning the longer points (as from 2015 onwards) than Rafa because his backhand doesn’t break down after 2 shots

@@mattDJmel Nadal losing a step and his forehand not being anywhere near the shot it was at his peak helped too.

The one in 2009 is better. A lot better. :D But yeah, looks similar.

The 2009 point is the best point in their rivalry and in my opinion one of the best points/rallies of all time.

Gherbi Hicham Fedal isn't the greatest rivalry due to the H2H gap but there's no doubting when it comes to the highest quality shotmaking no one matches them.

Beechaii2 I agree, I really enjoy the matches of Nadal and Federer more than I do Djokovic vs Nadal or Djokovic vs Federer, because when Nadal meets Federer we really get some incredibly unusual tennis.

I thought so too.

True, all in semi and almost all matches gone to five sets except this one. And then the final was legendary!

...yes each of them won one GS a piece XD (AO: Nole, RG: Rafa, Wim: Fed, USO: Murray). Great year!

2012 is an iconic year for tennis and just in general.

Federer wasn't at this best.

@@masters.1000 You are wrong. 2012 was the last time Roger Federer beat Novak Djokovic in a Grand Slam.

It took a decade to Federer beat Nadal after Wimbledon 2007 in a Grand slam. And that tells how dominant Nadal was against Federer during those years, no matter how well Federer played against Nadal it did not help, and Nadal was totally in hes head just like Djokovic is now:(

But in récent Time federer has nadal under controll so good Ending Overall for fed

He was a bit too sloppy in the decisive moments in this match. He should have won it. At the time he just didn't have the believe that he can beat Nadal best of five. A couple months before this one he crushed Nadal at the world tour finals but best of five is a different ball game.

There were countless rallies where Roger showed who was boss, but he caves under pressure during the biggest & most crucial specific points!

@@edkiely2712 What does that have to do with the point I made regarding Nadal's forehand winner? Smh.

No I can’t

Wimbledon 2008 has more significance than 2019 imo

@GTS Most overrated match ever. Both players, especially Djokovic, were nowhere near their best. It was one of the most boring finals you'll see between the big 3. It had no memorable rallies whatsoever and any point that was memorable was only in the game Federer choked 2 championship points. It's one of the most historic for sure but for quality it is not anywhere near the AO 09 F, WB 08 F or AO 2012 F.

excuse me are you Novak?

That was just outrageous from Rafa

@@blackrockkk ? Why novak ?

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Two true sport legends,its logical.

2012 in particular was the best year in tennis, with each of the big 3 winning their slam and Murray winning the US Open (which pretty much anyone can win).

If Djokovic wins Wimbledon 2023, It won't be Federer's slam anymore 😌

@@Noleka154 this aged like milk

​@@Noleka154it will still be Roger's slam..say whatever u want...most finals

@@user-vv4gn9fo2jmost finals lost against Nole you mean? 0-3?

I think it’s 2009

@@ErikCB912 hahaha nope

@@rafabaur2836 hahaha yes

Yesss by far. So many great matches over the year with the AO final being arguably the greatest match ever.

Yes!

Because he is in prime here..its obvious.

Agreed, I think it was one of the reasons he lost that really close final against Djokovic in 2012 Australian Open, his forehand was nowhere near penetrating enough as in say 2013 or 2010, although he was playing some fantastic tennis, physically speaking he was at peak form but his forehand let him down I'm afraid.

No. The reason Nadal lost in AO 2012 final was because he mentally lost it when he missed that easy backhand at 4-2.

bananapotato 2009 AO Nadal was even better.

Friends terminology is bullshit. Its all created for advertisement

That's crazy lol. Good catch

The point that cost Nadal the AO 2017 title :(

Yes, when Federer got the second break to 5-3 in the 5th set in AO 2017. You are right.

Yes!!!

yesssss.

So true - Nadal just genuinely nicer guy, that respect

Nadal and Federer are both nice people. Have you watched Fed's sneaker shopping with complex? Doesn't that seem like a nice guy to ya?

Yeah Fed is a nice guy too, but Nadal is just all class for me

JJSLOW fed has all the class, dumbass.

@@goxaviergo11 Another ignorant Fedtard reason for the hatred towards Fed such an imbecile

Kace Heiner And when Nadal's top spin forehand penetrates the backhand mhmm my favourite

this is what I feel as well

His FH is signifincalty worse. His BH is better on fast surfaces now and his 1st serve is better.

@@aleksamilosevic8792 All true.

2012 and 2017 were fair fights no injury and Nadal wouldn’t have won those matches anyway. Only 2014 is debatable but Wawrinka was on fire in first set before Nadal injury so highly doubt Nadal was doing enough to beat Wawrinka that day

You can see the change after he switched to RF97. Nadal never beat him except for clay. And even that match under horrible wind was a bit closer than it looked

Hahahah every fan does like that😂😂😂😂😂

NALGA ARENT A MASTER