The Persona 3 Portable Remaster is Embarrassing

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They should've ported FES instead.
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Persona 3 is one of the most popular games Atlus has ever produced and for good reason too. This is the start of what fans like to refer to as “Modern Persona” The first few games were much more in line with its father series Shin Megami Tensei. However, after Persona 2 eternal punishment, we wouldn’t see another game in the series for about 6 years. Persona 3 was the game to introduce some of the core features that helped make the Persona series what it is today. Social links, the calendar system, the dramatic shift in structure, it all went a long way in giving Persona 3 a unique identity compared to other JRPGs on the market. Combine this with some killer music and a touching story and it’s easy to see why the game is so fondly remembered to this day. The only issue is actually playing it. For the longest time, Persona 3 isn’t exactly the most easily accessible game. Back in the day, you had quite a few ways of playing it. There was the PlayStation network version on ps3 or if you’re feeling really retro, you could buy it for fairly cheap on PS2. But for the better part of a decade, there was no way to officially own the game on modern platforms. Persona 4 and 5 have been easily accessible for years at this point, and fans were waiting with bated breath to see P3 make the jump and thankfully Atlus delivered with their brand new remaster of Persona 3… Portable? Oh boy it’s going to be one of those videos, isn’t it?
So, the Persona 3 Portable remaster just released worldwide and now that I’ve gotten a chance to sit down and play it, I figure I should take the time to quickly express my thoughts. And who boy do I got some things to say about this one. Persona 3 portables remaster is very disappointing, not quite on the same level as Nocturne HD, but it comes dangerously close at points. Keep in mind that this video is mostly going to be focused on the port itself, not so much persona 3 portable as a whole. So if you’re looking for a review of persona 3 the game, then you’re not going to find it here. But If you do want to hear my full thoughts on Persona 3, then I do have a few videos dedicated to the game you can check out. I’m also going to be making the assumption that you’ve played the game before or know the general gist of it.
The Persona 3 Portable Remaster is Embarrassing. in The Persona 3 Portable Remaster is Embarrassing I'm going to be talking about why Persona 3 Portable is bad. I'll also be dedicating a large portion of this video to the recently released Persona 3 Portable PC port, Persona 3 Portable port, Persona 3 Portable Xbox port, and Persona 3 Portable PS5 port. We'll be taking a look at Persona 3 Portable PC to see if you should buy Persona 3 Portable PC and to answer if Persona 3 Portable Switch is worth it. You can actually view this as a Persona 3 Portable Switch Review if you want. But don't let that distract you from the fact that this video is on The Persona 3 Portable Remaster is Embarrassing by Nam's Compendium. I want the Persona 3 Remaster to get better in the future and the Persona 3 Portable Ports aren't very good. They should've done Persona 3 FES PC instead because Persona 3 FES is the superior version of Persona 3

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@the-network Жыл бұрын

good video lol

@edgykumaCh Жыл бұрын

Huh, I swear I saw this video yesterday but it says it was uploaded 3 hours ago?

@ThatBoyAqua Жыл бұрын

@@kaylaroxx I don’t think you realise how long it takes to make a video…

@Sasuke-jj4ok Жыл бұрын

You’re a disappointment NamsCompendium

@keip4568 Жыл бұрын

surprised you are covering the remaster of this...What about Royal & Golden?

@victoraponte1200 Жыл бұрын

The Irony in P3 Reloaded being confirmed is amazing for this video 💀

@matthewlandtv4419 Жыл бұрын

Although I think most people agree with the fact that remastering the psp version of the game was a pretty dumb marketing move. I don’t get why they didn’t just focus on making the full blown remake, and remastered the portable version which compared to FES is meh. So the player base who already completed and experienced the game may feel reluctant to buy it since they’ve already played P3 once. But idk that’s just my opinion.

@ghostwarrior3878 Жыл бұрын

I imagine there are people that still never experienced Persona 3. I'll be honest and admit, I have never played P3, my only experience with it was reading the P3 manga from a friend and watching a fan dub of the first animated movie, and thats it. P3 reloaded can be someone's a gateway into the series. So it's not a bad thing.

@cameron2900x 10 ай бұрын

@@matthewlandtv4419it’s gonna be free on the game pass

@cameron2900x 10 ай бұрын

@@ghostwarrior3878I bought it for the ps3 and never played and still haven’t played it since it came to Xbox. Reloaded will be nice

@danielharris1825 10 ай бұрын

Knowing that it's a thing only made me not want to play Persona anymore if they're just going to release inferior games then what's the point I'm not buying a whole console just to play a game I already own

@cellophanezebra4663 Жыл бұрын

A moment of silence for the people who missed out on the first persona awakening cutscene in FES, most badass introduction

@lrm3454 Жыл бұрын

Thank god FES was my first persona 3 experience and not this

@theycallmemooman1462 Жыл бұрын

Ngl this my first experience playing a persona 3 game… kinda sucks that I missed the original cutscene

@yinlo5876 Жыл бұрын

Ikr, the difference is day and night lol Cutscenes are important

@seta1346 Жыл бұрын

true. the atmosphere of each cutscenes of the ps2 version is.. just so ominous. and i love it every single time.

@plague1739 Жыл бұрын

I repeatedly rewatch the Orpheus awakening scene just because it's so cool it's disappointing that it and the other cut scenes are absent from the pc and xbox ports with no alternative to the portable version on these platforms.

@corey2232 11 ай бұрын

10:31 - Well, that aged a bit funny. Turns out getting P3P ported WAS indicative we were getting a full P3 Remake! 😂

@Alisa-lisa-0 6 ай бұрын

Was about to comment the same xD

@michaelholshouser6248 5 ай бұрын

Dude eating massive amounts of copium right.

@redness42 5 ай бұрын

aged like milk after reload was announced

@brdg00d1ng 5 ай бұрын

You couldn’t have been more wrong about them not making another remake lol

@inplane9970 5 ай бұрын

Still, it would be foolish to think they would just ignore P3 when it has such a dedicated fanbase and interesting concept. It's ripe for a remake and breathes more air into Persona and MetaTen. Now it's only a matter of time until P4 gets a remake too.

@brendancorey7831 Жыл бұрын

The fact that people were right about it being worse because a remake is going to come out is an infuriatingly perfect encapsulation of Atlus.

@insertnamehere1398 6 ай бұрын

I guess it was more they didn't want us to have to wait ANOTHER year for p3 port

@Kei-po7nc Жыл бұрын

Wow the audio in the remastered version is so authentic! I truly feel like I'm listening to it through speakers from 2006

@65firered Жыл бұрын

That you bought on sale from a sketchy thrift store.

@clemenscohn7371 Жыл бұрын

Was that supposed to be a diss? It is common knowledge that old audio hardware is significantly better than new audio hardware.

@theknight4610 Жыл бұрын

more like 1986

@Genethagenius Жыл бұрын

😂

@vimogam Жыл бұрын

@@65firered or from wish lol

@limbobilbo8743 Жыл бұрын

The thing that they really needed to do was to try and combine FES and portable.

@Ronin-kk4bt Жыл бұрын

Yup exactly

@CyberCarti Жыл бұрын

I better not have to pay for it again then

@Carnage7209 Жыл бұрын

Would have been cool, but they would have had to sell their souls to EA for that i bet

@donbototo5068 Жыл бұрын

Too much efford and money

@hannessteffenhagen61 Жыл бұрын

That'd be a remake at that point, not a port. Very different from a budget pov. I would definitely have preferred that, but I'm not surprised they didn't go that route.

@gamebrojoe Жыл бұрын

“Why would they remake a game they just ported?” 4 month later during Summer Game Fest: Altus employee accidentally leaks Persona 3 Remake on Instagram. If only he knew…

@gamebrojoe Жыл бұрын

Funny thing is I just bought this port on PS4 along with the port of P4G, completely unaware that there were even rumors of a P3 Remake, and the very next day, an Atlus Employee leaks P3 Remake on Instagram. I hate my life…

@gamebrojoe Жыл бұрын

To be fair, I’ve only played this port once, at 5 in the morning, on a plasma tv with the volume turned down, so I haven’t heard the crusty audio for myself, but the fact that it’s crusty at all makes me so glad I didn’t hear it before finding this review. The only complaint I had during my first play session was the quality of the 3D cutscenes. Specifically the protagonists Persona Awakening cutscene. The models almost look like they come out of Mario 64 when blown up on a plasma tv.

@SilverLegion121 6 ай бұрын

Atlus can eat a johnson. Im not made of money

@namieblinker5922 3 ай бұрын

@@gamebrojoe There are some mods to fix the major issues, but at this point, just emulate FES, you get a game for a free and also you get a full persona game instead of a half persona game + 1.99 visual novel.

@3slicessenpai Жыл бұрын

"FES is the best way to play P3" Marin Karin: "You hated me so much and where did that bring you? Back to me."

@sharebear421 Жыл бұрын

I know it’s a meme at this point but I only ever had issue with mitsuru like 1 or 2 times lol tactics worked for me 99% of the time

@LTDLetsPlays Жыл бұрын

@@sharebear421 I think most people don’t bother with tactics despite that being a reasonable thing to do

@SerpentHashiraObanaiIguro Жыл бұрын

Well, add some GameShark cheats to be able to control your party members and you're good to go.

@egbertmilton4003 Жыл бұрын

@@LTDLetsPlays You’re not serious are you? Tactics suck in this game, whether it be Yukari only using her single heal when full heals are necessary for the Party, Mitsuru using a status move even when the enemy is close to death and doesn’t resist Ice, Nyx putting up Moonless Gown in the middle of the Party turns before one of the members kills themselves despite knowing what the Gown does. You can say it works but you know what other combat system works? Sticker Star’s. And it’s still a bad combat system. Somehow Persona 3 did worse though, because at least you can control what you do in Sticker Star. It doesn’t matter if your fine with it, because objectively, it’s bad game design, especially since encounters depend on brain dead party AI to be challenging. There’s a reason Party control has been kept ever since the first Dragon Quest till today, while P3’s nonsense is seen as shitty.

@jeffersongutierritos1992 Жыл бұрын

@@egbertmilton4003 actually, in sticker star you don't control what you do, since you can't choose who to attack, so yeah, it's even worse

@Pinkyton Жыл бұрын

I bought this on release day. As soon as I heard that terrible audio from Yukari during the tutorial fight, I knew you'd be making a video about the state of the port lol

@lebonk8081 Жыл бұрын

Same

@n2badsam420 Жыл бұрын

That audio clip sounded like a movie on a Game Boy Advance Video cartridge.

@krustykrabpizza00 Жыл бұрын

Shrek and shark tale double feature gba video compression

@egbertmilton4003 Жыл бұрын

It's even in the fucking trailers! I can't believe this!

@mobilesuitjesse Жыл бұрын

@@n2badsam420 it sounded like this old Anime site I used to pirate anime in early 2012 and the sound quality of those shows being in Standard Definition sounded EXACTLY LIKE this port's audio

@MexicanUppercuts Жыл бұрын

I wish it were possible to combine the FeMC from P3P with the amazing cutscenes and atmosphere of FES.

@zachtwilightwindwaker596 Жыл бұрын

It shouldn't be impossible.

@ichibugin Жыл бұрын

This is what I ws hoping for the game would be

@Acetag31 Жыл бұрын

That and having FES being able to let you control your party. That right there was a turn-off for me for the original. I know people are upset over the cutscene but playing an RPG and not being able to control your party is stupid

@hue_tjark Жыл бұрын

@@Acetag31 Well, Portable also let's you control your allies actions

@Acetag31 Жыл бұрын

@hue_Tjark that's why I prefer portable. If I can't control my party why play. I play videogames for gameplay. Sure I miss cutscenes but I can look it up no biggie. If I cared enough about stories I'd watch TV or read a book. Gameplay is a huge component that games need to focus on

@foxu3478 Жыл бұрын

10:48 Atlus has ruined this man's whole career

@azazel_playz7055 Жыл бұрын

10:35 didnt age well💀

@TheBigBoss117 7 ай бұрын

I was just thinking that lol good thing I waited

@rcole7274 Жыл бұрын

My theory as to why Portable was chosen over FES is because of the company that made RenderWare, was bought out by EA. So they would either have to pay EA, or put the game through another engine, like with Nocturne. Edit: February 7, '23 Some people don't understand that what I said was just a theory (don't say it). Those few need to relax, it's just a video game

@cliffturbo2146 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if any companies needs a renderware these days.

@SpyHunter89 Жыл бұрын

That could also explain what happened to the Grand Theft Auto "Definitive" Editions, which this review made me think of. I'm not saying P3P Remaster is as bad as those games were at launch, but...

@caracalfloppa4997 Жыл бұрын

@@GlitchyPixExtra I'm pretty sure golden isn't using renderware, but the original game did.

@horrorking1000 Жыл бұрын

That and the quality of life changes

@Windermed Жыл бұрын

to add on to this, this could also explain why games such as Sonic Heroes haven't recieved modern ports (due to the fact that it was on RenderWare) since both SA1 and SA2 got modern ports on Steam

@calciumsigma175 Жыл бұрын

10:40 Actually, the idea of Atlus doing a full remake after releasing portable would perfectly fit into Atlus' typical behavior of making you buy the same game two years later only upgraded, and at full price again :^)

@vayneglory655 Жыл бұрын

God yes. P5 was my first persona game. Spent like a hundred bucks on dlc only for p5 royal to come out. Didn't buy it. Not gonna buy it. Probably done as a persona fan because of it. Which sucks. Atlus always makes me miss peak tri ace days for some reason.

@aregularlink5470 9 ай бұрын

You were completely right

@Phantom-kc9ly 5 ай бұрын

@@vayneglory655it's almost a completely different game tho lmao. I think the original is better. But the amount of changes they made and story add ons make it worth buying if you liked p5.

@vayneglory655 5 ай бұрын

@@Phantom-kc9ly it's incredible what people will put up with today for a modicum of quality. Sad commentary on the state of things.

@calciumsigma175 4 ай бұрын

@@aregularlink5470 Thought they would wait a little bit longer so it wouldn't be as blatantly obvious, but they sure proved me wrong. RIP anyone who bought Portable ""HD"" lmao.

@petergriscom3431 Жыл бұрын

The saddest part about the downgraded graphics in P3P is that the big emotional scenes have a lot less impact. You can hardly even call it a VN when there's not even any CG art to visually emphasize an important moment, just portraits, text, and the same pre-rendered backdrop from start to finish.

@woofer3284 4 ай бұрын

And it was amazing. I loved it.

@RyeRye02 Жыл бұрын

I remember reading somewhere that one factor that may have gone into the decision of porting P3P over FES is the fact that FES runs on an engine that was owned by Criterion that no longer exists, because of this, it was probably safest and eaisest for Atlus to port over the portable version as it would most likely require must less work than converting P3P to Unity or UE

@darkcameronmac Жыл бұрын

Yup, renderware. Probably the reason why a LOT of amazing old games will be completely lost to time. Considering it was industry standard.

@nonamepasserbya6658 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't lost to time, EA is the one holding the rights to it. They will NEVER fork over the $ just for a rerelease (not even a remake)

@jarreddean2094 Жыл бұрын

@@nonamepasserbya6658 EA charges out the ass to use renderware and they haven’t even updated it in over 10 years it’s 360 and ps3 support was terrible

@RenShinomiya121 Жыл бұрын

Welp, EA once again being the industry's greatest enemy.

@Phantom-kc9ly 5 ай бұрын

@@darkcameronmacold games aren't lost to time if you can still get them one way or another

@Jxshhh11 Жыл бұрын

"I'm not mad, i'm just disappointed". Something a mom would say to their child😂

@Ronin-kk4bt Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣

@ShadowOfMassDestruction Жыл бұрын

Honestly that hurts the most

@matteste Жыл бұрын

That phrase for basically almost everything Atlus has put out as of late.

@cvetomirgeorgiev9106 Жыл бұрын

One of the bonuses of the bad "remaster" being on PC is that I have some hope that community mods might make it a better experience in the future

@TwistedFoxblade Жыл бұрын

There are already some good mods out there like added cutscenes which is nice. probably going to get the game and add that mod. I am fine with the portable version just because I like the added features compared to the other versions. Though I would have preferred fes upscaled just because the image quality looks better.

@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын

@@TwistedFoxblade And currently a FeMC in cutscenes mod is being made

@xtra3678 4 ай бұрын

"comes off as cope" "why would they bother to remake a game that was just ported" lmao

@BurningAzure Жыл бұрын

10:47, Aaaaaaand a Persona 3 remake was confirmed.

@clutch24ever 10 ай бұрын

Anyone else here to let him know he was wrong about them making a remake? 💀💀

@FJLink Жыл бұрын

While it's not relevant for the English-speaking audience, I think it's good to mention that the P3P and P4G re-releases did include new translations to German, Spanish, Italian and French. That's already a huge improvement in terms of QoL changes. I haven't played this remaster but I agree that low resolution did a lot back in the pre-hd days to merge characters with the backgrounds, since both of them were pixelated. I think it's a shame that they're always so quick to remove the pixelated look as if it any solution were good as long as you don't see the squares or something.

@battleon81 Жыл бұрын

Wait....there still isn't manual skill inheritance?! When it came to perfecting higher level personas, I swear I spent more time rerolling than actually fighting with them.

@omegaweapon116 Жыл бұрын

I can see why people don't like it, but this game really isn't hard enough where you need to create perfect personas

@battleon81 Жыл бұрын

@@omegaweapon116 You aren’t wrong. I’m just the kind of guy who spends hours going through fusion calculators to look for chains of fusions that give the best final results. It took me at least a half hour each to get my ideal Thanatos, Odin, Helel, and Satan personas in FES. Then days of grinding in Monad. It wasn’t necessary, but making overpowered personas is most of the game’s fun for me.

@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын

@@battleon81 Same here. Minmaxing to me is a form of art

@Manavine 5 ай бұрын

to be blunt, while I'm still annoyed at that, the only reason I even CARED was because SMT3 Remaster had it. They SET that expectation and still undershot. No one was expecting Atlus to care enough to go out of their way, but they did.

@unyanizedcatboys Жыл бұрын

10:40 little did he know…. reload

@AdachiSimp Жыл бұрын

The marketing makes sense. They plastered femc all over the anniversary marketing. Granted, they also did that with p1 and 2 protagonists, but people would complain how they port fes and there's no female mc.

@hello-gx6oi Жыл бұрын

They marketed p1 and P2 but did not port any of them 💀

@MooeysAura Жыл бұрын

I'm still holding out hope for those P1 and P2 remasters 😔

@ArtFromHer Жыл бұрын

@@MooeysAura Nevermind remaster we need a persona 1 REMAKE

@MooeysAura Жыл бұрын

@@ArtFromHer that would be great too!!! But I'll take either honestly

@zachtwilightwindwaker596 Жыл бұрын

@@hello-gx6oi Why did they do that if they aren't going to do anything with it?

@NachtKaiser666 Жыл бұрын

I think the P3 problem stems from both versions offering different stuff. P3 is ont of those games that could really use a remake to incorporate everything both versions had to offer and build around it. I'd review the social links so that MC can befriend the other guys (same with FemC and the girls and also review that creepy Ken relationship) and also make it that you can opt out of getting in a relationship for the max level. I'd add the ability to manually transfer abilities and a couple bonus demons for good measure. More QoL update, make sure the manual party control is in is there, maybe a bonus dungeon and some compatibility between the main game and The Answer (like transfering stats and compendium, but rebalancing the difficulty if you import your main game's data and expand the max level limit accordingly. ... Yeah, that would be good, but it'd require Atlus to rebuild the game from the grounds up and it doesn't seem like they've been too keen on that since the 2000 (Kyuyaku Megami Tensei comes to mind as one of the best remake they ever did, and that was back in the 90's on the SNES) but I'll credit the 3DS era with one thing: all games they ported there were enhanced ports with additional content. P3 is really the odd one with two very distinct "final" versions. I'll agree with you that those who think a P3 Remake is on the horizon are coping hard. It's what the game needs, but I don't think we'll see that for at least a good decade and lots of pressure from the Japanese fanbase, which is unlikely to happen seeing how Japanese people are raised to not stand out too much or express negativity. Hey, maybe they'll port DDS or the Raido games next? It's not like they announced P6 or SMT6 or anything else coming in a near future recently...

@galactg9218 Жыл бұрын

Dude if they give us a dds 1 and 2 remake i might excuse them for giving us this lazy remaster

@vanessachowjiaying4423 Жыл бұрын

The other problem is that remakes are much more expensive and time consuming to develop, compared to the past. Remakes need new engine/programming, UI design and gameplay changes, new/reworked cutscenes and music, plus re-recording from previous VA. There are cases where remakes made questionable changes to the old narrative, which sometimes don't sit well with the audience. Taking into account Atlus size, it's better to use the time and resources onto new projects.

@bebopknux5857 Жыл бұрын

It's actually criminal that they made no effort to do this game any justice to make a quick buck off people who have no better sense. were not getting a P3 remake. This is it, and it's so dissapointing it's not even funny. This game *needed* a definitive edition. or just have both versions on steam or *something* because this has be the WORST release in a while.

@theodiscusgaming3909 Жыл бұрын

I love the funny misinformed take about Japanese people. Have you ever seen 5chan? These people *invented* online negativity.

@vorpal22 Жыл бұрын

I am so tired of remakes / remasters. I'm glad to have P3P available for my Switch now, but c'mon... fresh material please? Stop remaking games and spending so much time on it.

@AverageEggmonEnthusiast Жыл бұрын

I really think they should’ve made a definitive version with both the FeMC route and gameplay improvements and the 3D environments and animated cutscenes.

@selfloathingweekly 7 ай бұрын

With Reloaded being a remake, we never got one and probably never will.

@AverageEggmonEnthusiast 6 ай бұрын

@@selfloathingweekly yeah that bothers me. Especially since (allegedly) they’re using mostly the P3P script. Now obviously including FeMC as dlc would be an unreasonable endevour. But they should have planned to include her to begin with. ESPECIALLY if they’re using her games script anyways 💀

@RealChuckTingle 5 ай бұрын

10:34 I was just playing Persona 3: Reload before watching this video. The irony lmao. That line aged horribly.

@tylerbarth3113 Жыл бұрын

Also worth mentioning, the base P3, P3FES, and P4 games were made on RenderWare, which is partially lost and what's still there is in the hands of Electronic Arts, who haven't shown any intention of using it for years. P3P and P4G do not use RenderWare. I'm not sure if Nocturne used RenderWare (I think it did), but if so they fully remade it. Now, why not, you know, build P3P from the ground up on Unity or something? I don't frickin' know. It makes me all the happier to actually have this game on original hardware. At least P4G runs well enough.

@sonusmeister2325 Жыл бұрын

Renderware doesn't support current OS, so much so that they have to remaster San Andreas in Unity.

@Stavvy0 Жыл бұрын

Renderware was so great. EA killed another good one.

@PerpleX_Plays Жыл бұрын

Didn't they announce that they were going to remake 3 using the engine from 5?

@sonusmeister2325 Жыл бұрын

@@PerpleX_Plays don't count on it, not after delays when P5 released.

@minatoyukidoorkun3305 Жыл бұрын

I've heard this from bubbletea's P3P video but P3/F uses Renderware from what he said and it's engine that was bought by EA and taken off the market for use so even if Atlus got the FES files they couldn't easily work with them

@Windermed Жыл бұрын

it's not that it got taken off the market. EA still said they'd honor existing contracts for RenderWare (which i'm sure ATLUS still has) however they wouldn't be selling it anymore because they stopped support for it. basically the Engine itself is obselete with no updates coming to it which is why it probably wasn't used as they're is most likely no native support for modern platforms for an engine like RenderWare.

@jackflynn412 Жыл бұрын

@@Windermed They probably didn't want to pay EA

@JNCGaming Жыл бұрын

@@Windermed Nocturne used it too and they ported that

@sonusmeister2325 Жыл бұрын

Nocturne really is new game in old game disguise, they basically just code a new game with Nocturne assets. like Rockstar using Unity for San Andreas remake.

@saxor96 Жыл бұрын

@@sonusmeister2325 The San Andreas ""remake"" is just an upscaled port of the mobile version though.

@4bernadettatm17 Жыл бұрын

Aged like fine shit

@deadst4r 4 ай бұрын

Lol you calling the remake "cope" only to be proven wrong in a couple months.

@user-sf3ns6ed3g 6 күн бұрын

I’m coping by playing Persona 3 reloaded 😂

@nukeboynez3648 Жыл бұрын

Man I love the Persona games and I was so hyped to play 3 and 4 with high res textures but as soon as they revealed 3 to be the portable version I was so devastated.

@stephen8342 Жыл бұрын

It’s the only version where you can give direct orders, it’s the obvious choice

@adriahrin3284 Жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, if they ported FES instead i wouldn't even bought it

@404_BrainDidNotLoad Жыл бұрын

@@stephen8342 Honestly I was looking forward to not using direct orders, for me it’s part of the charm.

@talesvinicius598 Жыл бұрын

@@stephen8342 I mean, you're right, but you can easily cheat on FES to give you control of your party members, even on PS2 you could do that

@stephen8342 Жыл бұрын

@@talesvinicius598 the only criticism I’d make of it is that they could have altered the fes version for this release. But given that they’ve released three games across several platforms in a matter of months i can cut them slack for just taking the easy route

@firestar4407 Жыл бұрын

Even P3P's opening animation is designed so that you can watch it upside down on your PSP, and therefore, from the female protagonist's point of view. Imagine trying to flip your monitor or your TV screen.

@alyssarasmussen1723 Жыл бұрын

All you gotta do is just flip yourself upside down and viola. xD

@VirtuousAezon Жыл бұрын

That's why I modded in the P3 one hehe

@scarface925 Жыл бұрын

Ever heard of switch?

@BirdieImagineeBCH Жыл бұрын

@@VirtuousAezon The game already comes with both openings why is there a need for a mod 😅

@BirdieImagineeBCH Жыл бұрын

Well that’s because when it came out it was made for a portable console not your pc

@jakeemf-dg6rf 7 ай бұрын

10:42 that aged well huh?😅

@CoolGuyMcgeez Жыл бұрын

10:38 well.

@mythos6308 Жыл бұрын

The cope was real

@gamefreakDX Жыл бұрын

It's a shame it's not considered the best way to play P3. My ideal would basically be based on FES, but with the Portable QoL changes. Also the FeMC stuff, though for where the anime cutscenes would be, they could use in-game assets with updated models or if they were willing, do some anime cutscenes. I did buy the game alongside P4G, but to be fair, I also don't have a way to play P3.

@iguessthisismyworkaccountl8437 Жыл бұрын

its just a port so thats kinda unreasonable, but even then what we got was worse than playing the original portable.

@theimortal1974 Жыл бұрын

it's not the same but play fes on a ps2 emulator using the new moon patch and control party members patch. doesn't have the femc parts though.

@jamesdante1101 Жыл бұрын

@@theimortal1974 I'm doing almost the same as you but I dont know what new moon patch is. It's my first time playing so I plan on playing FEMC since I did buy portable after I finish The Journey in FES.

@adams3560 Жыл бұрын

@@iguessthisismyworkaccountl8437 I don’t see how it’s worse than playing the original portable. This version has some rather useful quality of life changes, which are mentioned in the video.

@iguessthisismyworkaccountl8437 Жыл бұрын

@@adams3560 thats true, i was probbobly being too hyperbolic, i meant moreso asthetic wise like the sound.

@h_works2965 Жыл бұрын

Definitely feel a lot of your frustrations. I’m not gonna lie I’m having fun going through Persona 3 again for the first time in a while. And as someone who only played FES, I’m glad to finally try Portable at last. But god, this re release was so shoddy and barebones. Yeah, I may not have quite as good an eye for ear for some these audio issues or shoddy up-rezzing. But it still sucks that they’re there at all. And they really couldn’t at least have added manual skill selection? Or the same difficulty options as 4 Golden? That alone would be such a good quality of life update. As for FES or Portable. Ok, I’m not gonna lie. When choosing between the two, I would pick Portable. Full party control is automatically enough to make that the less frustrating version to play and I’d take FeMC over The Answer any day. But I hate that P3 still exists in a state where we have to pick our poison. If I play FES, I get the better, more immersive presentation, but I have to deal with cruddy AI and a lacklustre slog of a bonus campaign. In Portable I get better quality of life, less RNG BS and social links for characters who REALLY should have had them in the OG. But I have to deal with hugely downgraded presentation. Sure, I find Portable better to play NOW. But would I have liked P3’s story as much if I hadn’t experienced it through FES first, cutscenes and all? I don’t know. And yet, lots of people will be playing this as a first exposure. P3 absolutely deserves a definitive edition that uses FES as the base but adds Portable’s content and fixes. If Hyrule Warriors could do it, why not this? But to get away from hypotheticals, they could at least have put more effort into doing Portable justice. But they only did the bare minimum. As it stands, like you say…at least it’s only 20 bucks…sigh.

@Papa_Khan Жыл бұрын

P3P does have manual skill selection and p4 golden difficulty options though

@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Жыл бұрын

@@Papa_Khan Not true. P3P DOES NOT have manual skill inheritance, it's chosen at random

@RenzoArchangel Жыл бұрын

its crazy to come back here after reload was announced lmfao

@AwesomeNaught Жыл бұрын

"Some people think that because portable was remastered Persona 3 is gonna get a full remake!" Uhhhh yeah about that

@stargazersdance Жыл бұрын

I heard that they chose P3P because it was easier to do so due to P3P sharing the same engine as P4G. Which I don't even know if it's true or not. But it does make sense? Since they'd have an easier time by just looking some of the code they used for P4G to port the game over.

@Brenilla Жыл бұрын

I’ve not played the original Persona 3 (portable or otherwise). I’m devastated by the audio and UI issues. I think Feez wasn’t ported due to ease of portability and the Fem MC. It likely would’ve been closer to a remaster than a port at that point. I’d be excited if they have been doing a remaster tho I don’t have any hopes of it being confirmed at all by this XD

@thetruekingofwaffles Жыл бұрын

It's the kind of old I could see them remaking the whole thing with the p5 engine, especially with how beloved it is.

@Aka-Spade Жыл бұрын

Hmm, yeah I get what you mean about the audio. In the battle example, the issue extends to Yukari's voice clip as well. I don't know if this is a helpful description, but it's like the audio version of what you get when you compress an image file too much.

@nameuser.2141 Жыл бұрын

Not only did they not give us what we were all asking for, which was a mix of FES and P3P, they didn’t even do this port properly. Let’s not forget that this was part of the 25th anni celebration and after seeing how amazing crisis core reunion is, I can’t even put it to words how I’m feeling as a big fan who grew up with the series EDIT: honestly don't really care whether you wanna call it a remake or remaster cause it's pretty irrelevant to the point I was trying to make. Also if you truly believe that crisis core reunion wasn't well executed and didn't do the psp game justice then please, put your tinted glasses away and maybe get your eyes checked as well :)

@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 Жыл бұрын

Crisis core is a remake though, not a remaster

@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 Жыл бұрын

Crisis core is a remake though, not a remaster

@gumi_twylit2605 Жыл бұрын

@@ofilosofoouumfumante5655 dafuq r u smokin dude... its just a remaster

@thelaw_00 Жыл бұрын

The smart decision they should've gone through is rather than remastering FES or Portable, yes they should've mix the game into one *Definitive* edition who inherits both the pros of both games

@jacobmedina9907 Жыл бұрын

@@gumi_twylit2605 You cannot look at Reunion and tell me it's "just" a remaster. It's on a whole different engine with new models, voice acting, and altered gameplay. Would you call Demon's Souls just a remaster?

@loganbigmo Жыл бұрын

This was my first P3 experience. It wasn't as bad as it could've been. I didn't really notice the AI upscaling issues. One thing I did notice was the audio weirdness. A lot of battle quotes seemed not to play; I've never even heard any party member, including the MC, say the name of their Persona when using attacks. I also thought the point-and-click visual novel was how it was meant to be; it wasn't until later that I found out that was a P3P thing & that the PS2 versions had 3D roam + cutscenes

@adlannizar60 Жыл бұрын

Welp if that's the only issue then it's fine, but goddamn for someone like me who has played FES. The bug on split and destroy shadows bugged the hell outta me. Now none of them are gaining EXP at the same rate. I waste more time grinding each of those characters alone than doing social links, status, and etc.

@evilmonkeywithissues 10 ай бұрын

Lol, "Some people think that since portable got the remake it means a remake is in the works, which to me comes off as cope." Crazy internet theories: 1 Guy with a KZfaq channel: 0

@renata6896 Жыл бұрын

I guess it depends on which you played first. I played P3P first and it was my introduction to the Persona series as a whole and have loved every single one since (and those that came before). I picked up FES after seeing it at a bin sale and loved it as well. Running around the actual world was great. Either way, I agree they should have at least combined the two. Heck, maybe even limit P3FEMC to the portable version (for those second playthroughs) if they were crunched for time. But a merge between the two absolutely should've happened, though I'm also fine with what we got because it's the P3 I remember and loved.

@mp3545 Жыл бұрын

> smart business moves > Atlas lmao

@evanoiser3058 Жыл бұрын

this didn't age well

@alukyard Жыл бұрын

10:31 well that aged poorly.

@hyperlegendultra5983 6 ай бұрын

Video aged like fine wine, turns out those insane fans were right. Atlus was remaking P3 all along

@costelinha1867 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think you should have used voice lines more when comparing the audio, as that's where the differences felt the most noticable to me.

@HeroicMoron Жыл бұрын

Honestly, the biggest reason I've heard for why Portable was the port we got has to do with something out of Altus' control, the Renderware engine. All old PS2 games were made on this thing, including Persona 3 FES. So even if they still have the files for P3 FES, they'd need to completely rebuild the game from the ground up to port it (and they honestly might as well give us a full on remake at that point). Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden were not made with Renderware, making them much easier to port.

@Pussyrepelent Жыл бұрын

10:47 hehehehheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehehehehehehehehehe

@akirahill8091 Жыл бұрын

Bro really thought that because a botched psp remaster came out that a remake would never come ☠️

@rezaro2nd400 Жыл бұрын

You’ve mentioned that anyone would be better off playing FES, and that’s exactly what I did. This remaster is the first Persona 3 experience for me and I spent hours on it even tho I was so disappointed bc I knew what FES is like. Eventually I couldn’t handle it anymore or tell myself “at least it’s only 20$” and now I’m playing FES on my Laptop.

@ethantrotto6668 Жыл бұрын

Same thing I did, played p3p for about 8 hours on my vita a couple years ago, and couldn't get into it. Ended up going back and playing FES after a year, and was hooked from start to finish

@thelaw_00 Жыл бұрын

Yes it's a definite waste of your $20. P4G on the other hand is worth it and heck, it even goes far beyond with what you paid for. It's a bargain. I'd imagine you were expecting the same quality game for paying the same price

@rezaro2nd400 Жыл бұрын

@@thelaw_00 Sadly this is true. After the couple of hours that I had spent on P3P, I’m not happy to say this but I wish that I had bought P4G instead. I would’ve def enjoyed my time a lot more with neither regrets nor complains

@TetsuRiken Жыл бұрын

I do wish I could play FES with some of the qol that p3p added (praticularly the control of other characters and the tired form battles thing gone) though what I wanted p3p fes all the content and better visuals

@ethantrotto6668 Жыл бұрын

@@TetsuRiken there is a full party control mod for FES available somewhere

@erikkulovesfauna 11 ай бұрын

U SAID COPE HUH⁉️⁉️🫵😭

@magehelsegundo8838 Жыл бұрын

10:25 Well, well, well. Looks like this did not age well. Persona 3 remake just got confirmed.

@amirgarcia547 Жыл бұрын

It’s a shame that this just got the SMT3HD treatment where Atlus put the bare minimum effort into this remaster, to the point where it may as well just be an upscale of the original due to having no noteworthy changes and the audio being horribly compressed. Despite having some issues of its own, the P4G port felt like it had way more effort put into it, and so this just feels like a case of Atlus carelessly tossing together a rerelease of P3 just because they already did so for P4 and P5. I do plan to get it eventually, but not until its issues are resolved, and if the rumors of a full-on P3 remake are true, then I can only hope they don’t end up screwing it up.

@Ryo_Hakuron Жыл бұрын

Man, I really wish there was just a version of FES, cutscenes and all, but with the addition of FemC. Her story hit harder and gave the party members more development through the social links. Also more Shinji content, the best boy.

@ryansahara7784 Жыл бұрын

10:31 lmao (Insert Jontron Clip) "That one didn't age so well"

@daydreamingcase Жыл бұрын

This is my first experience with Persona 3. It's funny I was hesitant to play it because it was old and I didn't think I'd enjoy it, but I have actually really enjoyed it (though I agree with your criticism). I only have the ps5 to play on so it's really the only accessible way for me to play.

@woofer3284 4 ай бұрын

I had over 100 hours in P3P. The game is so much fun. If I had played the original first, I wouldn't have liked it much.

@CrimRui Жыл бұрын

Well, it makes sense now. New Remake is coming with vanilla as canon version with some FES stuff. Also, lol at your statement 10:29

@TheSteelers4190 Жыл бұрын

The whole "P3 remake cannot exist because of this remaster" argument is beyond silly. SE announced and released the PC port of FF VII right around the time they announced the VII remake. Yes SE is much bigger than Atlus, but let's not act like it takes a lot of resources to port a game. P3 may never get a remake, but it won't be because this remaster exist.

@noblesix._ 10 ай бұрын

The remake take aged like milk lol

@cr0wtherr Жыл бұрын

This is my first time playing p3, and I’m honestly really enjoying it! I understand what you mean though. The skill select thing is so sad :(

@illumin3899 11 ай бұрын

This aged well, Persona 3 reload is releasing February

@Snakadeth Жыл бұрын

I guess a full on remake of the original Persona 3 is not "cope" anymore @NamsCompendiu , trailer just out for early 2024!! Looks great ;)

@dark67titan99 Жыл бұрын

Thing is this isn’t a remaster though, it’s a port, there’s a massive difference between those 2 things

@Chaosflower Жыл бұрын

Nope it’s a remaster read the steam game page

@billy5642 Жыл бұрын

They're actually is a full remake of P3 coming.

@Fearmemaybe15 Жыл бұрын

10:32- P3 remake was leaked. This entire segment has aged horribly lol

@devilsadvocate22289 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think you’re being a little too harsh on the remaster, especially since it sounds kinda disingenuous that your reasoning for not recommending it is because you have immediate access to the previous iterations of it. Like yeah, that’s great, but just being able to access any version of this game is already an achievement in of itself. Even as someone who had to get a Vita just to play P3P or P4G, I’d rather play the inferior game on a much more accessible console than have to buy a long dead console just to play the definitive version of ONE game. I honestly think they went cheap with the remaster because they know the demand for a freaking PSP game was so high and they tried to make the port as cheap as they could to cut costs. The way I see it, I feel like Atlus thought that they could either make a remaster of an already successful game or make a cheap spin-off Persona game again. I mean, I’d be open to playing a complete overhaul of P3 but, like you said, the likelihood of that happening is life-threatening levels of cope.

@luffysenju2407 Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t cope apparently 10:33

@longminh2759 Жыл бұрын

And we eating good for Reload

@Shigademesh 4 ай бұрын

10:52 I guess it's a good thing no one asked you as the remake has reached one million copies sold the fastest in atlus history 😂

@mkthedestroyer1213 Жыл бұрын

This aged like milk. Persona 3 remake inbound lol

@CBman11037 Жыл бұрын

No you milkman, the whole video did not age like milk because of one comment he made at the end.

@madbrosheo1514 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad I got the ps2 version for 20 dollars at my local game store a couple years ago. I’m pretty sure it’s doubled in price since then, though. Still, 40 dollars for a 20 year old physical copy isn’t too bad. If you still own a ps2, I’d recommend getting it if you can stomach AI controlled companions.

@kevin-cy3cf Жыл бұрын

Ya no especially the fes only shit I rather play this shitty port & watch the fes only things on KZfaq then deal with ai partners fucking me over & causing unnecessary game overs

@The_Hendrix Жыл бұрын

Just played it twice it’s a good game dude in the vid just bitching lmfaooo. It has its problems buts mostly just FES elitist crying.

@matheusgoncalves7282 Жыл бұрын

Persona fandon "you need to keep supporting the company's games" for what? To they release a good remaster with a lot of new contents and improvement? No... It's to create a mobile gacha game using the hype from the previous title.

@ultrafox4005 Жыл бұрын

Damn.... That "The prospects of a Persona 3 Remaster comes off as cope" comment aged like milk...

@amandadasilva8920 Жыл бұрын

There was next to none sound options on psp. This new version lest players choice bgm ,sound effects and voice setting when I play vn I have voice max and half bgm and sound effects. Hope this helps.

@ethantrotto6668 Жыл бұрын

This doesn't really fix the terrible sound quality though

@firellarosebud Жыл бұрын

As a kid, I played FES. I still have access to it and enjoyed it so much replaying it again more recently. The only thing that I got the remaster for is to play with a friend and play the girl route. But I could not explain the moment booting it up and not seeing the opening scene when playing the male route. That scene got me hooked as a kid, and even when watching the movies when they first came out.

@otaking3582 Жыл бұрын

"P4G easily accessible"? It's been stuck on the Vita for years, and only recently been brought over to modern consoles! What the hell are you talking about?!

@neotricksterzero143 8 ай бұрын

10:39 DAMN DID THAT STATEMENT AGE LIKE MILK LOL

@QaDri93 11 ай бұрын

10:38 weeelllllll….

@harri5309 Жыл бұрын

So no remake huh?

@Alleiptr Жыл бұрын

10:47. lol

@jf4132 4 ай бұрын

So the thing about the audio it’s not just exclusive to this port, this is a common issue with PSP emulation in general. I’ve played a lot of PSP emulators and they all have the same audio problem. Like I just started playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance for PSP on an emulator, plan on getting either the Wii versions or the PS4 remasters at some point, and any audio that isn’t a cutscene sounds exactly like the P3P remaster audio. So my best guess is that something might be wrong with the PSP’s audio files that causes emulation to not be able to capture it properly.

@CheesyLizzy Жыл бұрын

It's really weird, I've heard the audio comparisons and it sounds compressed there But it sounds completely normal when I play on my Switch with my headphones I've been having a lot of fun with the game though and I'm glad I have the chance to play it 😄

@TheMariokid99 5 ай бұрын

10:30 well that aged like milk

@AamitRudberg 11 ай бұрын

This whole part about the remake while still true - is so funny now

@jonathongibson7895 Жыл бұрын

This is my first time playing through P3 and I’m enjoying it quite a bit it’s disappointing it’s not the best it could be but for a first timer I don’t exactly mind I do wish it would have been a combination of Fes and portable

@L0rdTrigger Жыл бұрын

My first thought when atlas announced that they were remastering portable and not FES was "why"

@atlasreborn7221 Жыл бұрын

I dunno, would you like to manually control your teammates or would you like to suffer Mitsuru doing Marin Karin every turn?

@sleepingtom9337 Жыл бұрын

Cause it’s better

@L0rdTrigger Жыл бұрын

@@atlasreborn7221 Ideally I would have liked for them remaster fes and just add manual control, I just thought it was a odd decision at the time

@beetogarcia9983 9 ай бұрын

I’m here for 10:48 *persona 3 reload enters the chat*

@X1erra Жыл бұрын

Somehow I knew this is how it went, since I know there was a Persona crossover game in the 3DS era, and in its sequel, it was FEMC that got introduced first, and most likely gained lots more sales because of it.

@naliboi93 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this revirw. Its good that more reviewers are holding games up to the standards of all playable versions of the game, official or otherwise. I wish more people did this, especially with Nintendo rereleases. Sucks that reviewers cop out sometimes by saying "oh its decent for an official way to play the game", like bro how is that caveat selling me this so called "definitive" version? Nowadays, these remasters need to differentiate themselves in quality against whatever an emulator can achieve. A consumer could mod the psp iso into a better product than this if they were determined, what was stopping Atlus and Sega from doing more than the bare minimum? At least with 4 Golden, it actually had meaningful QoL improvements in both the Vita and Steam releases.

@Rickseriastar Жыл бұрын

Hindsight makes the p3p choice make way more sense. With the remake on the way, they likely didn’t want the remaster to compete, so they chose the portable version. From a business point… it makes a lot of sense.

@Warrka4 6 ай бұрын

I would also add that having a bundle for it and P4G is a lot more palatable to consumers than just porting P4G by itself. Two games for one price and all that.

@TheTacetTroubadour 4 ай бұрын

Why would they remaster a game they're about to remake???? $$$ Money $$$

@BakaVHS 6 ай бұрын

Altus was able to market a "lesser" p3 experience for 20 dollars and then double dip with a "real deal" sort of thing for 70 dollars. That's what foresight can earn you, I suppose.