Persona 2 Eternal Punishment Review - The Consequences of Sin
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Welcome to my Persona 2 Eternal Punishment Review The Consequences of Sin. In this Persona 2 Review, I'm going to be analyzing Persona 2 Eternal Punishment. Persona 2 is an underrated game that more people should play, especially Persona 2 Eternal Punishment. This Persona 2 Eternal Punishment Review will contain spoilers as it's also a Persona 2 Eternal Punishment Analysis.
This is a follow-up video to my Persona 2 Innocent Sin Review so there will be heavy Persona 2 Innocent Sin Spoilers.
0:00 Opening
2:03 Eternal Punishment's introduction
6:41 Gameplay Changes & Improvements
15:41 Character Analysis
35:03 Main Story Discussion & Conclusion
41:18 Outro & Patreon Credits
The following video will contain spoilers for both Persona 2 Innocent sin as well as Persona 2 Eternal Punishment. I highly suggest you play Innocent Sin yourself or watch my video on the game to get extra context for my review of Eternal Punishment.
Persona 2 Innocent Sin is a good game overall. Sure, I think that the PSP remaster definitely butchered the combat mechanics to a large extent. But what kept me going through all of that was the game’s story and cast of characters. Innocent Sin ended on a sombre note. Despite our heroes' best efforts, they couldn’t stop the world from being destroyed by Nyarlathotep. The only solution to this problem was to erase the group's memories of meeting each other. By doing so, a new timeline is created where the events of Innocent Sin never happened. At the end of the day, it seems as though the childhood friends were destined to stay apart.
@NamsCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
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@liorhazanov3110 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. Keep up the good work!
@nickolaswalthers7531 3 жыл бұрын
Dude if you look at your other persona 2 vid. i comments how i cant wait to see this video.... literally an hr later this video comes out. what in the world was that coincidence lol
@ilovemetalmusic310 3 жыл бұрын
How'd this comment get here 2 days ago when this video was released approx. 5 hours ago?
@NamsCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilovemetalmusic310 the video was posted on my patreon prior to being made public
@ilovemetalmusic310 3 жыл бұрын
@@NamsCompendium Well that makes sense.
@mitosuami3358 3 жыл бұрын
something important about tatsuya that i've never seen discussed before is the importance of perspective. in IS, he was shown to be very cool, popular, and mature. now in EP, tatsuya is portrayed very differently. he is shown to be confused, unsure of himself, curious, and overall child like. this is due to the fact that we're now looking through maya's perspective. now that we aren't in the perspective of tatsuya, we aren't shown how he views himself, rather how he portrays himself, his persona.
@Neogears1312 3 жыл бұрын
It’s also why katsuya is drastically different. In IS he comes of as a complete douche and a hard ass. But in EP he’s actually a lovable dork who’s always trying to help people. Tatsuya views his brother as a scum bag so when we see the world through his perspective that’s all we see. But when you see it from mayas it’s clear tatsuya has a warped perspective of his brother.
@juliantapia1407 3 жыл бұрын
@@Neogears1312 you're not wrong that a change in perspective has allowed us to see more, but what a lot of people tend to overlook is that who these characters are in EP is noticeably different than in IS. In IS for example, Tatsuya suffered from being stabbed as a kid, losing his friends (suppressing memories), having his reputation altered by rumors and even using his persona accidentally to hurt others trying to hurt him. That hardened him and likely distanced him from his brother, parents, and everyone severely, likely leading to more friction between him and Katsuya. In EP, none of that happened, resulting in less negativity between them, and more regular teen angst (plus their issue of their father's rep taking center stage).
@demonbye19 Жыл бұрын
@@juliantapia1407i would agree if it wasnt for the thing that he remembers the old world and with that also all of the trauma if i remember correctly
@juliantapia1407 Жыл бұрын
@@demonbye19 that's true of the Tatsuya from innocent sin, who then inhabits the body of the Tatsuya from eternal punishment. He remembers everything, but then, when he leaves, we're left with the Tatsuya of the EP reality, who never made the friends or lived the trauma of the original, and only really hung out with Anna and worked on his bike, and maybe dealt with living under the broken reputation of his father, and a brother who was likely less worried about him than the original innocent sin version of Katsuya was (even if the EP version still worried for other reasons).
@demonbye19 Жыл бұрын
@@juliantapia1407 do you See that tatsuya sz the end its been a long time and if so and you mean that fair enough ignore what i said
@typemoriarty3898 3 жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor that this video is a banger
@chironthecuddley6144 3 жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor that it will have millions of views.
@Bongo_Dong 3 жыл бұрын
Bro that's actually kinda clever
@syker3012 3 жыл бұрын
What I love about EP is how empathetic it is with its mature cast. It does not hide the uneasiness of their adult lives and chooses to confront them.
@heejinsnose2027 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 7 ай бұрын
Same i'm sick with High-School setting and common anime trope in general. so that's why Persona 2 Eternal Punishment is a breath of fresh air for me
@SSBBPOKEFAN 3 жыл бұрын
So, who here's hoping for the impossible and wanting these games ported to modern consoles? Maybe have all 3 PS1 Persona games in one as a "Persona Classics Collection"?
@NamsCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
Would buy that in a heartbeat. Making these games widely available for modern players would be a dream come true.
@jaidens.g.1920 3 жыл бұрын
@@NamsCompendium hey, it's the 25th anniversary of the series, and Atlus seems to be interested in future ports if their reaction to the success of P4G on Steam is any indication, so there's always the possibility! The classic trilogy deserves to be played by more people
@i-papiseacucumberi-3278 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaidens.g.1920 I hope they port them to PS4/5 and PC with tht only changed being: P1: Classic OST IS: Harder combat mode EP: English port (duh) and hopefully FES or Portable but open world/anime
@brianpguil 3 жыл бұрын
maybe 1 and both 2 can be ported to switch
@i-papiseacucumberi-3278 3 жыл бұрын
@@brianpguil unlikely, SMT V and Nocturne HD + the recent switch (lol) to PC
@andrewmanchiraju8005 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, but I am a little disappointed you didn’t mention the Persona 1 cast reunion at the end of the game, something that I loved, showing how the original cast ended up, also the bad ending of the game where Lisa and Eikichi remember everything, but have to keep it from Jun, or the good ending where the IS cast (aside from Tatsuya) reunites, but feels sense of sadness for reasons beyond their understandings.
@moraeza 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU and reijis kid on the way!!!
@dededeletethis9940 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that reunion scene features everyone except the protagonist (who's implied to arrive at the very end of the scene, but we don't get to see him), masao (who's studying overseas according to the wiki) and yuka (who has no reason given for being absent)
@Tasty_Tango45 2 жыл бұрын
@@dededeletethis9940 I assume it’s because she got her wish of finally being a mom so she was at home taking care of the baby
@Rylainecchi 3 жыл бұрын
"Nyarlathotep is kinda easy" Hehe Hieros Glupaine and Mediarahan goes brrrrrrr
@mitosuami3358 3 жыл бұрын
i kinda wish i used mediarahan, i was only using mediarama
@Rylainecchi 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitosuami3358 just return rank 8 Tsukuyomi to obtain Nannar. Or you can obtain blessing card (Mediarahan) from completing Salam's Torifune map, and put Mediarahan on Artemis. (Sorry for my bad English)
@mitosuami3358 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rylainecchi alright, though i’d rather have it on a persona for ulala because of her superior agility and maya being able to do more damage (assuming you did a magic build)
@Rylainecchi 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitosuami3358 that's alright, put Mediarahan on Isis or G. Joutei, so she wouldn't affected by Crawling Chaos' mute ailment, since that skill Deals almighty damage. Plus Transient Ripple can nullified Tetrakarn, Makarakarn, all Kaja and Tetraja. So Mediarahan is better equipped on personas that nullifies magic
@Oziach 3 жыл бұрын
Eternal Punishment? More like *good video game.*
@AkiraADV 3 жыл бұрын
Good video game? More like *half of a masterpiece.*
@mitosuami3358 3 жыл бұрын
yo it's that dude from twitter
@itz_cros3779 3 жыл бұрын
@@AkiraADV facts
@RainnX3 3 жыл бұрын
yoooooo ozi!!!!
@persona5imaginingproject 3 жыл бұрын
You would definitely know! Especially when you tweeted "I never knew Kei returned in Eternal Punishment, and now I REALLY need to get to that game. 👀" 10 minutes ago.
@Entropic_Alloy 3 жыл бұрын
The additional PSP scenario is a wonderful addition to the story that really adds to Tatsuya's tragedy and fleshes out the Lovercraftian elements to the story. Hopefully you get around to it whenever the fan translation comes out. I'd say that the "weakness" of the cast as a group makes a bit more sense, because it is harder for adults to form immediate bonds like kids/teens are able to, so they are more distant between one another while they size each other up.
@ahmedbenkhalfallah6502 3 жыл бұрын
As adults they are independant individuals with a responsability, they sure learned a lot from eachother but dont expect a chemistry like the prior P2 had, hell even P2 IS cast had known eachother since childhood even if they were masked.
@Nyarlathotep727 3 жыл бұрын
19:15 Personally I think that Maya forgiving Ulala fits well from a story angle and Maya as a character because it is indicating that Maya is pretty much like a mother in the game. Forgiving someone is part of the positive nature which is one of Maya's personally trait while a person that does not forgive someone is part of the negative nature and this goes to show that Maya is still in her positive mindset and turns away from anything negative such as her shadow we later see in the game of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment.
@Evilriku13 3 жыл бұрын
besides that Maya seems to have an issue to deal with negative emotions (as such stereotype of people exist too) so she rather glances over them and tries to "be happy and stay positive", which is perhaps one remarkable bittersweet character treat.
@Lucisev_ Жыл бұрын
I found it weird that he thought Maya wouldn't simply forgive Ulala. If she could forgive the brats and said those words near the end of IS, she could forgive her friend who obviously tried to make amends.
@matildarose 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember beating finally Joker Noriko. All my party members were dead save for Katsuya, who would shoot Noriko and passively heal for 10 HP each turn. Since the two henchmen with Noriko were dead, all I had to do was let it play out. Then my brother came downstairs with his date. They wanted the TV the PS1 was hooked up to. I refused. Now, as a 39 year old... hell yeah, I stand by teen me's decision, that boss was hard as hell
@naymratkyaw3740 Жыл бұрын
Joker Noriko was a very painful boss fight, like the henchmen attacks literally took out half of my party's health and Old Maid attack did not make the situation any better since I was doing fusion attacks to defeat the henchmen and Noriko, after defeating the henchmen, I thought the rest of the fight would be easy but oh boy I was super wrong because her Maha Aques, Old Maid and Absolute Zero took out 2/3rd of my party's health and even also oh-ko-ing the party members. The only thing that kept the party barely surviving are Maya's Maia Diarama and Media spells and unlimited incense of life spam, in conclusion, Joker Noriko boss fight gave me ptsd and that made me not want to play persona 2 ep because of how nightmarish that boss fight was, but I will play it again since I love this game, even if I have to go through the pain again.
@gsuaveyt 2 жыл бұрын
I found Zenkichi and the issues he was dealing with in Persona 5 Strikers super interesting, so i'd love some adult members of the cast of future Persona games
@sarafontanini7051 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Nanjo's route is the more interesting of the two, it feels more important to the villains' plans and bringing Kandori back greater ties the events of the games together (especially considering how Nyarlothotep was his persona, thus possibly explaining why Kandori was evil)
@yugimonmaster1018 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go, I have been dying for this
@RaydeepKainth 3 жыл бұрын
*I've been waiting for this!*
@xKubomi 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaydeepKainth X
@gamerk316 Жыл бұрын
FYI, for any late arrivers there is now a translation patch to the PSP version that basically ports over the PS1 translation and does the translation of the new content, as well as some other changes to bring the original translation in-line with current Persona naming schemes.
@oni91119 3 жыл бұрын
Persona 2's duology story has to be one of the best story telling in the series.
@dim8961 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I freaking LOVE this game! I vividly remember playing this instead of studying and now this video drops one day before my test week. Deja vu....
@dim8961 3 жыл бұрын
I should really consider my priorities.
@urameshitrev1851 3 жыл бұрын
Managed to Play the Classic Persona games recently, and yeah Eternal Punishment was my overall favorite of the Classic games. Tatsuya became with one of my favorite Persona characters, and probably my personal favorite Protagonist in the series. I'd say its my 3rd Favorite in the series cause Persona 3 and 5 I enjoy more from a gameplay perspective personally lol
@Mclucasrv 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt we will ever see a persona with an most adult cast again maybe a sequel like this one or a spin off. I find easier if SMT did that but even so that one still use teenagers to young adults.
@nathaliacorrea1332 3 жыл бұрын
(oof sorry I'm commenting while I'm watching the video so i wont forget later, it be like that) I absolutely agree with your "maya being a silent protagonist is a waste" statement and so did Satomi Tadashi (aka the main writer of the first persona gamers) he wanted to make Maya a talkative protagonist but Atlus wasn't very keen on the decision because they wanted to keep the trend of silent protagonists in every game. Which was honestly a terrible decision and stripped Maya away from her personality and ability to properly react to things. It's funny to see dialogues adaptating to this decision (such as Maya's portrait followed by a bunch of elypsis and characters quoting phrases as if she had just stated them out loud) but i really wish that wasn't the case :(
@Crok425 2 жыл бұрын
No, he wanted Maya to speak in the additional scenario of EP PSP. Maya being silent makes sense, not a waste.
@RocketSlime 8 ай бұрын
We literally get most of the type of shit she'd say with actual dialog though? Even without being talkative it's all in her choices
@Roberto-mm4gr 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite Persona game. One thing you should have brought up was how strong this game’s soundtrack was. I loved it
@theeggen 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for the EP retrospective! I love what you did with these videos. I already wanted to play through the classic Persona games, but now I want to play them even more!
@junojun722 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 Good news! there is now a translation of eternal punishment psp
@Leon-kg7ls 3 жыл бұрын
I finished EP less than two weeks ago and definitely my biggest gripe with the game was the main cast outside of Tatsuya and Maya. Every time it felt like one of them was having "their big moment" they would get cut short and the scene felt unresolved. I remember specifically after the Abandoned Factory when you learn about Baofu's past, the truth is left very vague and inconclusive, but then I just so happen to talk to Katsuya in the Velvet Room and he finally just says it plainly, clearing up the confusion. I like the idea behind all three of them but somehow Eriko (whose route I chose) ended up being my favorite new party member, despite not even playing P1. Also Maya shouldn't have been silent :( It just doesn't work going from voiced to silent, especially not for such a pleasant character to listen to as Maya.
@gucciflipflop2906 3 жыл бұрын
Even though i like ulala alot i think the reason the new members dont get alot of time to shine is because compared to innocent sin all the party gets like one dungeon about them gold for ulala factory for baofu and aoba park for katsuya whereas everyone except from yukino in innocent sin got multiple dungeons for their arc.
@FrogmaskMusic 3 жыл бұрын
21:00 japanese as a second language education was a big thing in taiwan for decades, so at the time of the game's release, a taiwanese professional fluent in japanese wouldn't be all that weird
@battlinjoe2592 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s the nuances like that which don’t translate well outside of the main continent of release
@judemcnab4394 3 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this for a while! EP is probably my 2nd favourite game of all time, so I'm glad to see at least one video get to the meat of it.
@ShadowMisha 3 жыл бұрын
I waited for this!! Thank you for all the time you put into these videos!
@KatsuyaTheFuuk 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis once again! And honestly, the Nanjo route was the more interesting one, but I'm curious what you would think of the Elly route if you ever revisit it. I definitely appreciate the replay value in those routes, and dialogue choices towards the end changing the ending scene where Eikichi, Jun and Lisa meetup
@demistic1248 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see another Persona with an Adult cast. Heck, bring back the P3 cast as adults and have them follow Elizabeth and Aigis's quest for the P3 protag. :D
@b0x640 3 жыл бұрын
P3 Protag can come back to life if everyone on the earth accepts death and lives happily without hating themselves. Nyx wont come back cause no one wants him do Minato kind of just comes back
@sirbruno95 3 жыл бұрын
Please no. After what Persona 4 Arena did to them, I honestly hope to never see them again. I'm seriously not a fan of what they did to Akihiko. He went from a proficient up and coming boxer in a prestigious school to basically Ryu (Basically a wandering hobo that fights) that never shuts up about protein.
@adopted996 2 жыл бұрын
Id rather not i feel like their journey is over imo
@Crok425 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@joseluiscamacho5168 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Persona 3 Strikers that’s about Elizabeth bringing Makoto back.
@bussyboy2882 3 жыл бұрын
Instant like whenever i see vids about Eternal Punishment, it was my first experience with smt. It has one of the best character designs from Kaneko.
@katanakhari 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Def will jump into this once someone makes a translation 👌🏾
@JustDaZack 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently fully diving into the Persona- and SMT-Universe and having a blast!
@RigalicReign 3 жыл бұрын
That scene outside of the train station. Hey does everyone feel like we all know each other? You just get a bunch of "yeah" In the background you just hear Philemon sigh while narlithotep is laughing
@matthewferrell4274 3 жыл бұрын
Was just going through the series of videos, what a coincidence this was recently posted!
@yonsumarianov9068 3 жыл бұрын
I have been wanting for this!
@tanisurf11609 Жыл бұрын
Recientemente acabe Persona 2 EP con su reciente traducción al Ingles, y realmente es una secuela maravillosa que logra cerrar muy bien la historia que se ha formado desde P2 IS, concuerdo con lo de que Maya debió tener líneas de dialogo en el juego y no ser un protagonista silencioso, pero quitando eso el juego logra hacer a sus personajes interesantes y enseñar una buena lección sobre lo que es convertirse en un adulto y creo que eso tambien hace especial el juego, para ser un Persona (sabiendo que la saga va de estudiantes de preparatoria). El Juego mejora mecánicamente todo sobre el anterior, un exelende Juego la verdad, ves esta clase de reseñas es reconfortante al ver que hay gente como vos que da de su tiempo en dar un buen análisis de estos títulos, Good Video Bro!
@KamenGhoul 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssssssss been waiting for this
@shineman7855 3 жыл бұрын
I beat the game about a month ago and loved it. Thanks for making this video!!
@SleeperSeats 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@yonsumarianov9068 3 жыл бұрын
Oof, you did that joke before me
@cj_iwakura 3 жыл бұрын
The PSP version of Eternal Punishment is still super difficult, and completely unchanged, unlike IS PSP.
@rook8172 3 жыл бұрын
any update on the status on the translation btw? last i saw was months ago
@Desmond-xp4wr 3 жыл бұрын
@@rook8172 he's still working on it
@itSCOOTER1 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this!! Let's goooo
@raidoukuzonoha883 3 жыл бұрын
A long nam video is pretty pog
@kucingcing 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this
@jonwryy 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this since friday
@cristianmastrocicco4552 3 жыл бұрын
I think Atlus should've bundled the Persona 2 Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment (In English, obviously) remasters together on PS Vita
@b0x640 3 жыл бұрын
Vita is dead so probably for PC PS5 or Switch
@ned993 3 жыл бұрын
There's an ongoing fan translation for the PSP port of EP, it's been having technical difficulties unfortunately, but at least it's not dead
@ShadowBaofu 3 жыл бұрын
Really glad other people are learning about Persona 2. As someone who enjoyed playing obscure RPGs as a kid, I'm really glad this one in particular is standing out more and more.
@ArcaneElemental 3 жыл бұрын
An Amazing video like always
@ainabui8361 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would like to see Persona 6 with a college aged cast. Maybe it's because I've just recently became an adult, but I want to see more games that target adult issues. Though SMT Mainline already covers that well enough. To a certain extent, ignoring Apocalypse
@mannysmith5397 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets that Lisa also ended up remembering, even the game. Ekichi and Jun are the only ones who didn't
@ahmedbenkhalfallah6502 3 жыл бұрын
I thought its Eikichi who knows whats going on? Like in the end of the game where he, Lisa and Jun meet at the shrine.
@mannysmith5397 3 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedbenkhalfallah6502 Nah, it's Lisa. She even asks to go with Tatsuya, but Philemon says not to.
@ahmedbenkhalfallah6502 3 жыл бұрын
@@mannysmith5397 i checked again, and i think its because i took Nanjo as a party member and the Eikichi route rather than Lisa/Hellen route so Eikichi is the one to remember.
@ovensmuggler5207 Жыл бұрын
It depends on your choices in the final dungeon, if you make the correct choices nobody remembers
@Pokerface-tr1ds Жыл бұрын
A true RPG Classic I haven't played for years! I remember spending countless hours in collecting Tarot Cards, getting new Personas from the Velvet Room, leveling them up, you name it. I think I will start my PS 2 Emulator and play it again... just to enjoy the music I have in the Velvet Room :)
@kingnothing5678 3 жыл бұрын
So Persona 3, 4, and 5 take place in the Eternal Punishment timeline?
@danielmayonaka8818 3 жыл бұрын
Yes basically
@Ultimataco 3 жыл бұрын
"I've been waiting for this!"
@Grima-su6os 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it would be nice if we could have an Adult cast. Since we have seen how shity Adults can be in Persona 5, feels like it's time to see the Adults side of things in that entire matter, or at least another aspect.
@leschnozzberry 3 жыл бұрын
Never have i clicked on a video so fast, also what happened to Namtoomanynumbers.
@NamsCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
Stayed in the late 2000's where he belongs
@leschnozzberry 3 жыл бұрын
@@NamsCompendium fair
@royalkumar795 3 жыл бұрын
@@leschnozzberry same , bro I instantly click when I saw video on recommendation
@Deus_XG 3 жыл бұрын
Banger as always
@frankiefagundes9791 3 жыл бұрын
As an absolute fan of the Persona 2 duology, I really liked you're reviews of the games, and the complaints, even if I disagreed sound reasonable. Great video!
@susantuna3434 2 жыл бұрын
this is why the little easter egg on persona 3 hermit arcana hits hard on that online game you as tatsuya and her as maya man i want to cry
@Pystoria 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@AraiiarA 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see your thoughts on the characters. I for one absolutely despised Baofu until the final dungeon. Every time he said something I would roll my eyes and think "stfu you annoying edgelord". When it comes to Ulala I didn't find strange at all that Maya forgave her almost immediately, and if you take the time to talk to the party in random locations you can see how much Ulala still regrets what she's done. Katsuya is absolutely husbando. Tatsuya is Tatsuya. Overall if it weren't for Baofu this might've been my overall favorite cast in the whole series. Still, EP is my favorite SMT game and Maya is my absolute favorite protagonist
@trashderp3585 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video good sir , because I have not played eternal punishment yet I can't watch this. But I shall be back
@trashderp3585 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm back
@itsmebennyb4286 3 жыл бұрын
I came into these person 2 videos as a persona 3, 4, and 5 player. Omg have I been missing out. Atlus/Sega have been showing interest in porting old games to steam. I would love it if they ported the first three games (persona one, IN, and EP)
@ilovemetalmusic310 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno what it is about your Persona videos but I find them enjoyable even though I've never bothered playing Persona myself.
@heromedley 3 жыл бұрын
this probably the most clever way to introduce a "royal" or a "golden" version of the same game. i wish more games do this.
@krombopulosliam9736 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see nyarly is back on his medication
@cardbored_bocks6074 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we get a remake of both games as one with extra goodies
@musicaljoker4812 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with that list of Persona games, especially Persona 3 FES being the most trouble. I also could suck at the games, but still.
@tyrellplet8966 3 жыл бұрын
The wait is over bois
@demiv7110 3 жыл бұрын
Will you not release these so fast, I didn't finish this game yet....
@RTheStoryteller7 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, the idea that the main protagonist of the previous game fucked up soo bad post-ending and trying to fix it is such an interesting idea
@daniels.7104 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who experienced the same in boss fights. Every boss was unique and hard. Especially the jokers, because full-mage maya killed my party when affected by the old maid. Very nice work. Thanks!
@RickPPR 3 жыл бұрын
I'm itching to watch this video (bc the ones you did on 3 and 4 were just brilliant) as well as itching to play 2. What would be the best way to play these games? Emulating PSP for both? PSX?
@NamsCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
There is no fan translation for Eternal Punishment PSP as of yet, so you're stuck with the PSX version for that game. In my opinion, the PSX version is more than playable, so you'll be fine with that version. In terms of Innocent Sin, I think that the PSP version is far too easy and brainless to be engaging. As far as I'm aware, the PSX version of the game isn't that much harder, so I'd say to play that version just to stay consistent (You'll need to use the fan translation patch if you plan on playing the PSX version of Innocent Sin) The PSP version has the option to turn off battle animations so you can speed through battles, so that's a plus. It's really up to which version sounds more enjoyable to you.
@sucrosecranium454 3 жыл бұрын
So the tatsuya from IS had to go back to his world? So are the main characters from IS all still in their destroyed original universe or am i wrong.
@baronagony4767 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like Ulala. I think her cursing Maya is something we all have done in some compacity when we're mad or jealous at someone we care about. Just in her case it actually came true.
@Rilobster 3 жыл бұрын
As always i must like and comment to boost the algorithm. Unfortunately i still have not played persona 2 so i cannot watch the video. I'm sure the video is a banger though, as always :)
@Deus_XG 3 жыл бұрын
Hey rillic
@Rilobster 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deus_XG Hello webes
@Dndditches 3 жыл бұрын
P2 duology is in my top 10 games ever. Beats all other personas. You can skip battle animations in EP on ps1 too. I liked Ulala’s story. As to Maya’s lack of follow up to Ulala’s betrayal…. We’ll that’s what adults do. She can see Ulala wants to atone and was genuine and forgave her. Only kids hold a grudge. There’s also additional nuances expressed by the characters personas, mythology and astrology connections which is consistent across both P2 games that you can read into for further context. Eg, Ulala’s starter Callisto was one of Artemis’ followers in mythology, and Artemis is…. Maya’s ultimate. Callisto was turned into a bear by Artemis for being… defiled by a man, which echoes Ulala’s story but instead of revenge, Maya can choose to forgive Ulala, which is part of Maya’s story arc and unlocks her custom/prime persona.
@RocketSlime 8 ай бұрын
This
@athorem Жыл бұрын
Man, Persona 2 is something special. Definitely didn't expect it to be as good as it is.
@ahari8142 3 жыл бұрын
Since you enjoyed the gameplay of this game much more than Innocent Sin, how well do you think it holds up to the modern Persona games and to the mainline Shin Megami Tensei games?
@PunchinBag01 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh Persona 5 was my first experience on my SMT journey and I loved it so much that I bought a PsVita and bought persona 1-4 on it and on my 2ds I bought SMT 4( and probably going to buy Overclocked, strange journey, hackers, and apocalypse) but currently I’m going through persona 4 golden and P3P and my favorite game of all time was Persona 5 Royal and then I played P4G and that was my favorite but god I’m playing through P3P and its the best thing I’ve ever played ever and I haven’t beat it yet💀 but this series is the world to me.
@sebastianmendoza8707 3 жыл бұрын
Something really cool about EP is fortune telling, get a yellow dragon and you get double exp for some time. And that time is enough to beat the dungeons and the bosses, getting huge amounts of exp.
@DenDen021 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited to finish Innocent Sin so I can get to Eternal Punishment
@theLethalRabbit 2 жыл бұрын
Persona 2 duology: among the deepest storylines in any jrpg. And yes, EP is far more challenging than IS. Mature characters and all, this game deserves more recognition. A future remake perhaps, or a spin-off or something, similar to other Persona games?... There was also the anime series that was cancelled - sadly. It'd be great to see Maya and co. once again! You really get attached to the characters, by playing these 2 games to the end.
@RileyB_226 3 жыл бұрын
Is The persona 2 duology good to start the series on? If not, what game should I start with?
@FreeRPGer 2 жыл бұрын
Eternal Punishment is *still* my favorite Persona game to this day. Haven't played mine since it came out on PS1, but I plan to re-play it on Vita after I finally play Innocent Sin (which is still on my backlog). Thankfully, I have Innocent Sin physically for PSP, & also digitally on my Vita TV. All these years later, I intend to play both, to see the tale in its entirety on my PSTV.
@moraeza 3 жыл бұрын
9:12 EP has the option to turn on simple battle animations too?
@heejinsnose2027 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@VincentEternal 3 жыл бұрын
Yes let’s go!!!
@The_pie_master 3 жыл бұрын
Guys you don’t need a ps1 to play eternal punishment you can also buy it on the psvita along with persona 1, innocent sin, 3(psp version) and 4
@MasterJP28 2 жыл бұрын
Adults may be harder to characterized imo. Some things may not fly such as childish naiveté, quicker connections and bonds formed, and overreaction to events that occur. That is not to say that everyone is 100% mature, but compared to our younger selves, we are. A duology works better with story telling starting with a teen student cast and a time skip, showing how the passing of time has impacted them. Due to the events of IS, they could not use the entire original cast in EP as it would not connect as well. EP showed that an adult cast gives a different perspective, but may not be as connected of a cast with each other. They feel more like coworkers than friends, once the job finished, everyone kind of went their own way. Still would be a fun experience to have a Persona game lead to older characters with diverging paths based on choices made early on, I think the it would be similar to mainline SMT's different endings.
@royalkumar795 3 жыл бұрын
*I never clicked so fast than any recommendations video* Because, Persona 2 is closed to my heart, after SMT Persona 4 (PS2 version)
@PopnPlayerJazine 3 жыл бұрын
I just beat the game tonight and immediately watched this video as soon as the credits were done. I agree with your points that I like the cast of IS more, but I think the story of EP is better. I hope more people will be able to enjoy these two games.
@ftsar3494 3 жыл бұрын
What mic do you use, ur audio is very good
@NamsCompendium 3 жыл бұрын
I use a Rode NT USB microphone. I do other things as well to make it sound better, but that's the microphone I use.
@mozata6838 3 жыл бұрын
Eternal Punishment? More like Eternal - uh Eternally Underrated! ... Y'know, cause this channel is - It's got less subs than it should - ... Nevermind, I'll see myself out.
@TheCaliMack Жыл бұрын
I think they completed the english fantranslation. I remember seeing it in a few sites already.
@digiphobia9416 3 жыл бұрын
So, what's next homie?
@JaredConnell 3 жыл бұрын
Should i play innocent sin before this one or can i just jump right into it? I'm playing p4g now and i have eternal punishment downloaded to play next but I'm thinking i should play innocent sin first
@ahmedbenkhalfallah6502 3 жыл бұрын
This is a sequel to Innocent Sin, you have to know what happened in it to get the story of this one.
@slypherfalchion6020 Жыл бұрын
But now there is a fan translation, oh yeah baby!!!!!!!
@ethanmiller631 14 күн бұрын
41:02 this didn't aged well because on the fan translation of EP the difficulty is high as the ps1 version and the slice of life mechanics added is great + the customizable color scheme
@persona_protagonist 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get Persona 1-4 remasters or ported to the PS4 and PS5 one day :(
@jasonblundelldobebussing 3 жыл бұрын
That's rad
@skullwolfsteam 2 жыл бұрын
to correct you EP PSP has the difficulty set like Persona 2 ep ps1(so it inst piss easy) thankfully also has the best of both battle systems (is remake on psp and ep ps1s battle systems/ui changes) also adds an additional scenario written by tadashi satomi the duology's original writer that is a love letter to Lovecraft and very good so hopefully that translation comes out soon and you can give that translation of the remake a shot as i highly recomend it
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