NANO - VNA. Antron 99 checking the SWR

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Fred in the Shed

Fred in the Shed

4 жыл бұрын

Time to use the Nano VNA to check the SWR on the Antron 99 which has been through 2 storms this year so it could be sky high.

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@RingwayManchester
@RingwayManchester 4 жыл бұрын
We don’t always get it right mate we’re learning as well and having fun along the way. Another cracking video mate as always.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@janbundell6434
@janbundell6434 4 жыл бұрын
You’re never old to learn Fred......well done mate....take care........Bob
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob
@guns4hire74
@guns4hire74 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed! Thank you for all your info! From Texas!
@agoraphobicadam1171
@agoraphobicadam1171 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Fred.
@Ofsaintsandsinners
@Ofsaintsandsinners 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred, Glad you're back. Still visit your articles accross the board. Great stuff on the Nano VNA and A99. Will do the same on mine now you've demonstrated. Cheers. Stay safe and well. Looking forward to more stuff from you. 73s W.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks
@NordicAxe
@NordicAxe 4 жыл бұрын
My A99 just arrived today! I'll have it up soon - very nicely made antenna. Test run at 12' showed SWR at 1.0 Worst I got was 1.2 on high end UK FM (and no one swore at me) so a good result I say! Hope to reach some of you on USB very soon!
@Greg-zr4wm
@Greg-zr4wm 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing I have been thinking of buying one of those meters and you are making the decision easier lol
@johnnymac26
@johnnymac26 4 жыл бұрын
every day is a school day fred and we are still all learning and learning is fun esp with your videos fred love watching them stay safe matey.
@zzxxenith
@zzxxenith Жыл бұрын
Thanks I tuned my antron with my phone to a live video feed on my phone to the analyzer
@tomasztomson6885
@tomasztomson6885 3 жыл бұрын
Hi You guys not find the antron99 a bt more noise than other antenas?becouse i did.What is yours experience.
@JesterHellsingborg
@JesterHellsingborg 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks ....stay safe and healthy...
@RC-Heli835
@RC-Heli835 3 жыл бұрын
These are awesome! I've had mine 2 days but just got the SMAUHF MALE - SO239 FEMALE adapter today. Ironically my base and my dump truck antennas are tuned about like yours. The antennas need shortening just a little to resonate at the center of the band. I had a thought...if you wanted to use the antenna on 10 and 11 meter I suppose you could tune it to resonate its lowest swr at 28.000 mhz? These are so much easier than setting SWR with a traditional meter. Now that I know there is a v curve I could use the old SWR meter more effectively. There is so much going back and checking with every little antenna adjustment though it can wear you down. With the Nano you can make an antenna adjustment and simply watch the screen.😀
@George_Salt
@George_Salt 4 жыл бұрын
Fred, a suggestion for a video I'd like to see - using the nanoVNA to help tune an antenna for CB. Identifying when an antenna whip is too long or too short, etc. I'm sure it must be possible, looking at the SWR curve and easier than using a traditional SWR meter at ch1, chh40 and ch19 and comparing values. Thanks.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Yes i will be using the nano next time i build a dipole.
@robgibbsofficial
@robgibbsofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Fred! Good old Antron 99 lives on - loads of stations near me use them and get out brilliantly also when using the CRT SS 6900 radios with KPO NM532 mics! Sound familiar to you Fred? You definitely helped people get started with the right gear from the get go - keep up the great work best Rob
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. Ive always hoped the videos would bring people back onto radio and start little nets. Good to hear.
@CheckitMedia
@CheckitMedia 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Fred, long time (20+years) cb/27mhz fan and going to do it again soon. Like your videos very much thinking about doing videos here in The Netherlands like this but cb is a bit dead i heard. Just bought a new Sirio Megarange 827 and now im thinking about a new way how to put my antenne. I hope in a few weeks to be back in the air. Hope to catch you on a channel sometimes. For the swr and power i bought a Daiwa CN-102L very nice product my dad also uses it. Stay safe.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Nice one and welcome back :-). Yes you should make some videos as more the better to help the hobby. Good luck with getting contacts and setting up a reg group etc.
@charleswills4554
@charleswills4554 4 жыл бұрын
Its hard to beat an A99 ,mine has been up for about 3 years seen 2 ice storms and numerous storms with high winds.This summer i need to take it down so i can prime and paint it . 73s 514 Ontario Canada
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Yes mine needs a re seal.
@julianrobertson9595
@julianrobertson9595 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred , Great videos & very informative . I've been watching other youtube videos on grounding home base antennas to earth via a copper coated ground electrode spike that's connected to the Antron wall bracket with 16mm copper ground cable in order to protect radio equipment from high atmospheric static , this may also protect equipment in thunder storms .
@kevinconnolly6330
@kevinconnolly6330 4 жыл бұрын
Good video fred thanks for sharing 👍
@kevfrost8756
@kevfrost8756 4 жыл бұрын
Fred I've taken off the NA-771 and gone back to the original antenna on the BAOFENG uv5r I can scan but never seem to pick anything up any tips, Kev from Portsmouth 👍
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Try around 140 Mhz ish. I can get local busses around that freq.
@americaswayout4489
@americaswayout4489 4 жыл бұрын
The 27.6 set point means both ends the FM 40 and the US or EU 40 are still below 2.0 certainly usable and with your little tuner if need be you could touch it up. I would be curious to see what happens if you do one of two things, drop a ground wire to the ground below with a rod in the ground and or secondarily attach your mount pole or ground the pole to the gutter if there is one? You are in my view correct to think swr wise your A 99 is working well. The second thing I would like to see is you do the same as in this video except for 18.1 or 17 meters, 21.3 or 15 meters and 24.990 or 12 meters and the voice or ssb on 10 or 28.400 I would expect possibly all to be under 2.1 SWR well with in using ? I know many hams use the A 99 on these bands but have not seen any videos like this one for those bands. By the way I ordered one of these VNAs from the link you shared, can you tell me if it took a while for the shipping to show it shipped, the seller has it showing on the tracking as contacted but not being shipped. Curious of your experience? Also the link I sent you the other day has the DX Commander builder Cal there in the UK starting some videos on how to get a Foundation licence or call sign, with the money you already have invested why not get the first level license , build a few dipoles in your attic or use the A-99 and also use your radios on those bands. Like you I started as a CBer, am loyal to my roots yet also can use the ham bands. Other than some wire etc you could get going with very little costs. Cal's DX-Commander multi-band vertical can be bought in your country rather cheaply and you could really put your VNA to good use. Doesn't mean you leave your friends on 27,305 just make some more new ones !
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice. I did buy a ground rod for the A99 but the surround around the house has a concrete base. I will be building more dipoles later in the year.
@americaswayout4489
@americaswayout4489 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK kzfaq.info/get/bejne/erJ0l7KW1cfVZ58.html Came across this fellow and his version of this antenna, thought you might enjoy his approach? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7yoe7GF2drUdZc.html
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 3 жыл бұрын
What about replacing the old CB antenna with a Slim-Jim antenna for 26-30MHZ.
@Legend813a
@Legend813a 4 жыл бұрын
6:00 No drip loop for coax entering shed???
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Too tight since i raised the pole. Prob will replace the 213 net time i drop the A99.
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK Buy a more expensive coax, I think you might be surprised how much a difference it will make. I know it is the thicker lower loss, but look around for cable with a higher spec. Good cables will give you a loss spec per meter. In the meantime put a bit of tape with a string hanging down, the water will follow it to ground and not go into the shed. Bit of string round coax, tape over that so it makes a ridge then put another bit of string in front (the uphill side) and water will follow it off the cable. EDIT: For antennas well up into the air, it is better for safety if you put an earth to ground, at the very least, get a spark gap connector that will take static or lightning to earth, it won't save the CB, but it might well save you or the shed. At night put a short on the coax, just use a plug shorted to the outer and if you have a spark arresting connector in-line it will take anything straight to ground. It will not help in a direct strike, but I have seen a lot of high voltage sparks jumping from coax before now. My antenna always had a big heavy wire to earth.
@yotubeurk
@yotubeurk 4 жыл бұрын
If you get water in the coax, it also creeps upwards due to the pressure from above and corrosion of copper via your outer jacket of your coax, just like a cotton wick it has cost me 17.6 meters of coax.
@ianslee8968
@ianslee8968 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, I’m stumped. Getting a new 9900 doctored to use all the frequenters but can’t put an outside Ariel because of the block owners. Won’t let me put up a sigma or even a lil die pole, so, is there anything I can run 10 and 11 mg inside. I don’t have a loft either. Send us some ideas please. Double please. Good post as ever Fred. Very interesting. 👍
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Your going to struggle with an inside antenna Ian. Is there no way you could mount a mobile or boomerang antenna that you could place out of a window when in use and then bring it in again.
@Joe-KN4IFI
@Joe-KN4IFI 4 жыл бұрын
Yes Fred leave the A99 alone its just fine. Great Videos. 73 Joe
@garywills8089
@garywills8089 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred. Wrong video I know but I'm just getting back in to cb. Do you know where I can get a frequency list for all the ssb/am/fm uk channels? I've got a ss6900. Thanks
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
You should be able to find the freqs if you google. A guy sells a laminated printed sheet on ebay for about £3. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CB-radio-Frequency-chart-for-SUPERSTAR-3900-from-SS-low-to-SS-High-full-colour/192787173855?hash=item2ce302d1df:g:t3sAAOSwcB5ZKRtc
@garywills8089
@garywills8089 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK cheers
@RustyOrange71
@RustyOrange71 4 жыл бұрын
Did you make the pigtail? Good job. Can you link the parts please? I'm assuming that the resistance of the pigtail has to match the resistance of the 213 coax? 50 Ohms?
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Its a 50 ohm connector. It was an ebay purchase.
@RustyOrange71
@RustyOrange71 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK thanks Fred. I really appreciate the feedback. 👍
@mateyko555
@mateyko555 2 жыл бұрын
how do you calibrate if you dont have calibration set attached to end of pigtail?
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 2 жыл бұрын
Ah not sure.
@AndrewBryantPianoTuner
@AndrewBryantPianoTuner Жыл бұрын
Why no loop to atop the rain running down the coax straight into your shed mate?
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK Жыл бұрын
Good call
@WaschyNumber1
@WaschyNumber1 Жыл бұрын
Can I check with the Nano if the pmr frequencys are correct and the signal power? 🤔
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK Жыл бұрын
Yes if you use a radio with a removable antenna. Wont connect to a legal fixed antenna radio.
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 4 жыл бұрын
At least you are experimenting Fred, a lot of people that comment will not have used one of these. Nice one Fred, keep on experimenting and sharing :-)) Just out of interest, how does that compare with your SWR meter?
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
When i last set up the A99 i got about 1.2 or less in the shed. Up in the shack (loft) it increases to 1.3. Thats on a Zetagi TM999 meter which aint exactly cutting edge tech.
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK No, but you can make a meter that is close enough. I was just interested to see if they agreed or not, but the difference is nothing anyway.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
@@BoB4jjjjs I think they are close. Comparable to the built in SWR on the 6900n. Its prob about as much as i want to go into SWR testing. Anything around 1.5 is normally good enough for me.
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK Yeah,, 1:5 to 1 is good enough across the band you want. 2 is ok at the edges and if you don't talk there for to long, but high power at 2 to 1 is a bit dodgy!
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
What type/version of the Nano VNA tester are you using Fred in this video
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK Жыл бұрын
Hi Gary. Cannot rem the exact model. The ebay seller is long gone. Its generic clone. More in this video. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5yegdNhqJzee3U.html
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK Thank you Fred, yours looked simple the ones i have googled look far more complicated and if i copy what you have i can always blame you lol if nothing works. Loving your videos. As you know i got the ss6900 also a Antron 99 pole, tried them today and as usual i got nothing at all on cb but sticking with your videos i am not going to give in just yet. I am going to buy a Nano Vna tester to make sure the aerial is working. More importantly as the aerial is on the ground because i am moving soon, i am going to lift it higher up on a hole because at present it is only just above gutter height. Could i just ask if there is a channel/frequency/band/letter i can use on the cb that will guarantee i should get something, at this stage and what i've paid out i would be just glad to hear something i am not bothered about talking yet.
@christophersmith1155
@christophersmith1155 4 жыл бұрын
I might have to buy a NANO. IT MAY MAKE IT EASYER FOR ME TO ASSEMBLE AND TUNE ANTENNAS THIS SPRING. IM SCHEDULED TO ERECT 2 ANTRONS, 2 IMAX 2000's, 3 MACO V5000's, and 2 HYGAIN SUPER PENETRATOR SPT-500's.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
This meter will make it 100% easier to tune antennas.
@jonathanhembree5890
@jonathanhembree5890 2 жыл бұрын
Witch model are you using for 27mhz?
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 2 жыл бұрын
I think all the Nano clone are the same. They cover wide freqs
@shaun27ful
@shaun27ful 4 жыл бұрын
Great video stay safe 😷😷
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks old mate. Nice to hear from you and hope your doing ok.
@shaun27ful
@shaun27ful 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK yes all good here thanks . Not going out you stay safe ok .😷😷
@RustyOrange71
@RustyOrange71 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
the next one was direct from the bottom of the aerial
@foxman362
@foxman362 3 жыл бұрын
can use this on antenna matcher?
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not
@Legend813a
@Legend813a 4 жыл бұрын
Get a long USB-C cable and use a laptop as the NANOVNA's display
@consv366
@consv366 4 жыл бұрын
You mean build swr meter using laptop?
@janr3578
@janr3578 4 жыл бұрын
@@consv366 download the Nano VNA Software - runs also on a USB Stick - start the program and connect the Nano VNA via the USB C cable...
@antenaseinterfacescb
@antenaseinterfacescb 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video tks Fer sharing 7351.
@radiolinux45
@radiolinux45 4 жыл бұрын
I have meters please show how work how set one up or do have videos
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
No ive not done a user guide myself as there are some really good guides already on YT.
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
I did calabrate the nano vna before i took those readings
@electromechanicalstuff2602
@electromechanicalstuff2602 3 жыл бұрын
Brand new imax 2000. I can't get the antenna tuner low enough my lowest swr is at 28.2 M. So my 11 meter band is per my nap vna 1.7 at ch1 and 1.5 at channel 40. My rings are all the way down.... Don't know what to so
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 3 жыл бұрын
Its odd. I had something like this when i first set up the A99. The rings were all the way up i think. Seemed to improve when i removed the spring washers during a service.
@pamhockens4148
@pamhockens4148 3 жыл бұрын
and the best gain on a antenna is about .200 to 300 khz above your lowest SWR
@jamesgaunt7357
@jamesgaunt7357 4 жыл бұрын
Hiya Fred in the shed this is Jim in the crap. I press the reset button on a 9900 and lost channels how do you reprogram it thank you . Loving your videos
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
James you can go through the channels manually by switching from Freq / Chan mode. The radio will stay at the freq you leave it on when you switch from freq mode to channels mode. Its easy to cock them up.
@jamesgaunt7357
@jamesgaunt7357 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK I'll have a look lol thank you . Keep up with ya videos I blame you for getting me back on the air I'm up in Lincoln so won't be able to chat. Stay safe my friend
@foxman362
@foxman362 Жыл бұрын
Would this work on maco v5000.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK Жыл бұрын
Yes it should.
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
that was indoors
@donnyp8643
@donnyp8643 4 жыл бұрын
I order a antenna and power supple lastnight on amazon so i can fire my 3900 up cause it sitting here for over the pass 4 and a half years doing nothing i need to get a other yaesu ft-450 all a kenwood ts- 480sat
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Best of luck Donny.
@donnyp8643
@donnyp8643 4 жыл бұрын
Thank fredy boy
@donnyp8643
@donnyp8643 4 жыл бұрын
My sirio new tornado 27 5/8 came this afternoon i havent put it up yet but it a big thing 23.7foot and i can put in 1,000 into it all day long cause i cant remember the short time power is 3,000 all 5,000watts so i will as some fun with my RM amp and i may push my amp upto 400watts to see how well it get out when skip come in to try to keep up with american i may push it upto 600watts cause i know this antenna will take 600watts easy i will as some fun in dx land when skip come in when i put this baby up i will love if people can hear me from up scotland all down london then i know antenna is working
@donnyp8643
@donnyp8643 4 жыл бұрын
My mate got a new icom 7600 and he say i can as his icom 7300 for £650 that 7300 as mars mods done on it do it work on cb bsnds and he as his new one open up from the shop where he got it from
@James_Bowie
@James_Bowie 4 жыл бұрын
That satellite dish is looking a bit tired, Fred. Looks like it's now owned by Iron Oxide. 😛 Regarding measuring: "any objects placed around an antenna, such as an enclosure or product packaging, will alter its radiation pattern, thus altering its input impedance. That’s why it’s important to use a VNA to measure the input impedance of the antenna (including its intended feed line) within the environment that will most closely resemble where it is intended to operate." -- from a good article by Tektronix here: www.tek.com/blog/antenna-matching-vector-network-analyzer
@katmanclancy
@katmanclancy 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought CB was HF Fred god I'm stupid, what is CB??
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 4 жыл бұрын
Citizen Band. HF is ref to Ham Radio.
@katmanclancy
@katmanclancy 4 жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK I know Fred but what is CB.. UHF VHF etc?
@humaxf1
@humaxf1 4 жыл бұрын
CB frequencies fall within the HF portion, 0-30 MHz...
@fernandoscrenci9555
@fernandoscrenci9555 4 жыл бұрын
143 like 👍
@WhoAmi-kt1qb
@WhoAmi-kt1qb 2 жыл бұрын
Stop waffling geeez
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
Hi Fred do you give out your email ect as i am not on FB i can post mine on here if you don't mind contacting me i am still getting nothing on my ss 6900 cb with a antron 99 aerial i wanted to show you a picture of my aerial and the readings i get on the nano vna tester when its plugged in indoors and also direct to the bottom of the aerial, i wanted to see where i am going wrong with this set up.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK Жыл бұрын
Hi Gary. No probs if i can help i will. fredintheshedyt@gmail.com
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK Thank you Fred, i thought i would test the leads tonight and they seem ok, but when i put a meter across the aerial it has a dead short, so i am going to get in touch with the seller first. Thanks again Fred.
@OCDASDA
@OCDASDA Жыл бұрын
@@CB-RADIO-UK Hi Fred these are readings i am getting today, what do they tell you and is there anything i can do to improve the signal? I thought i had a short on the antenna between the centre pin and screen but the company i bought it from said that was normal?
@Michigan_Tactical
@Michigan_Tactical 3 жыл бұрын
You're Antron 99 should be 9 feet above the roof.
@CB-RADIO-UK
@CB-RADIO-UK 3 жыл бұрын
In the compact area i live iam lucky to have an antenna up at all esp without planning permission.
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