#NanoLongRange

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Dave_C FPV

Dave_C FPV

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Table of Contents:
00:00 - Intro
04:33 - Nano LR Concept
05:28 - Electronics
10:33 - Weight
11:55 - Flight Characteristics
13:30 - Conclusion & Next Steps
- HGLRC 1-2 5A WiFi AIO: bit.ly/2LZ5BZl
- JHEMCU 1-2S AIO: bit.ly/3qQxX77
- RunCam Nano 4: bit.ly/3qMfLLE
- 1202.5 11500kV Motors: bit.ly/3iGZvcb
- Flywoo 450mW VTX: bit.ly/2Y44bzg
- Gemfan 3018 Props: bit.ly/2L5JI72
Check out the REKON FPV Online shop: rekonfpv.com/
- Rekon5 Digital: bit.ly/3sCnyh0 BG: bit.ly/2M1cwBd
- Rekon5 Analogue: bit.ly/3qy48I9 BG: bit.ly/3c4PggH
- Rekon 5 Frame Kit: bit.ly/3sL80rt
- New Failsafe Insurance: bit.ly/2M1fZ2w
The original MicroLongRange frames & BNFs:
- Flywoo Explorer Analogue: bit.ly/36gGF6V
- Flywoo Explorer Vista ready Kit: bit.ly/39oEbWc
- Flywoo Explorer Frame Kit: bit.ly/2VdQgVX
- Hexplorer Analogue BNF: bit.ly/38pz2Lj
- Hexplorer Digital BNF: bit.ly/34u7OSz
- Hexplorer Frame: bit.ly/2J6L5Vg
- 16x16 6in1 ESC and F7 FC: bit.ly/3mDfuID
- 3000mah 4S Liion pack: bit.ly/37ocdrc
Other decent Micro Long Range quads:
- Diatone Roma 4 LR bit.ly/3m0pH2f
- iFlight Chimera bit.ly/3kQDEhS
- GEPRC Baby Crocodile bit.ly/2IWFOPL
Recommended Micro Long Range Setup:
- Frame: Flywoo Explorer bit.ly/2VdQgVX or CNCMadness
- Motors: 2750kV 1404 Flywoo Dave_C bit.ly/3pSn2Kn
- Stack: Flywoo F411 bit.ly/3e9yNFg
- GPS: BN-180 bit.ly/2tylVad
- Cam: Vista bit.ly/2ynTm1L
- Independent Buzzer: bit.ly/2OxeSbz
- HD Cam: Naked GoPro Hero 6/7 Case: bit.ly/3m2TZBG
- Props: Gemfan 4024 bit.ly/2IZ4abS
- LiPo Batteries: Literally any cheap 850mah 4S will be just fine
- Li-Ion 3000mah VTC-6 Batteries: bit.ly/37ocdrc

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@jkob_k0452
@jkob_k0452 3 жыл бұрын
I’m super stoked about this one,I’d love to y one in the future-please continue your great work and hopefully bring it to the market/teach us how to build our own ones-keep it up!
@BOTGRINDER
@BOTGRINDER 3 жыл бұрын
awesome! loving all the lr stuff man!! your designs got me back into long (mid) range so thank you! also this is something you should totally pursue i want one already.
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Loved your live stream!
@jorgeromero4680
@jorgeromero4680 3 жыл бұрын
you can't go far with box goggles lol #joke
@2bfpv882
@2bfpv882 3 жыл бұрын
Dont almost lose it in tha lake lol
@Testpilottim
@Testpilottim 3 жыл бұрын
Chur bro
@FinaISpartan
@FinaISpartan 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I remember bringing this up earlier last year. Really great seeing it come to fruition.
@shamelessfpv990
@shamelessfpv990 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, please pursue, I think this small long /mid range platform is awesome 👏🏻
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 3 жыл бұрын
Dave. Stop coming up wih such cool toys. Some of us as going to go bankrupt...😂
@yannickg6904
@yannickg6904 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, Since we have a nice little 13a 6in1 stack to play with, how about a smaller sized hexa for say... 2.5in props. I can only think of a handful of frames, some no longer available. I personnaly would like to design one using the camera cage from the Armattan Bobcat or Roma F4 and a one piece mainplate.
@chrisatkin2302
@chrisatkin2302 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing dude I can't wait for you to release them. Love the battery cage idea 💡
@mamali13313
@mamali13313 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see where this leads!
@dpkgray
@dpkgray 3 жыл бұрын
I am definitely interested, I love the concept, looking forward to your progress.
@Lostbirdproductions
@Lostbirdproductions 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this idea and will be building one myself! Please continue to tinker with this platform as it could be a great intro into the hobby for many people as well as fun for veteran flyers!
@karterjones9590
@karterjones9590 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a version 2 of this! Sounds like a perfect lunch break cruiser
@jbrownson
@jbrownson 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for what you're adding to the hobby
@Houssam0691
@Houssam0691 3 жыл бұрын
i'm absolutely loving this one ! if you get to sort out all the electrical issues i think it would be a very interesting product ! keep it up Dave
@chrismel9000
@chrismel9000 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, Love the idea. I've played around with "Nano type" LR /MR quads. I did a 2s versions off of your original 3in MLR with TinyHawk internals and had loads of fun with it. This is very cool and would love to see this come out in the REKON line someday. Big fan of all your work, thanks for sharing your FPV knowledge. Looking forward to more on this little guy, love it!
@Martin-qf2fv
@Martin-qf2fv 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea and perfect engineering.
@crapistheshit3840
@crapistheshit3840 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, i've been waiting for this video, gone get me some popcorn for this one !
@Brunmed
@Brunmed 3 жыл бұрын
This is something I really want to build, looks rather easy and cheap to do! Has a lot of potencial and fun factor too.
@happyvalley808
@happyvalley808 3 жыл бұрын
Looooove it!!! More,more,more!!!!! Thanks Bro!
@A3Kr0n
@A3Kr0n 2 жыл бұрын
You've put a lot of work into this. Well done.
@johngraboski
@johngraboski 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work, Dave. Love it!
@rougeneon1997
@rougeneon1997 3 жыл бұрын
The pre-order is now LIVE!!! Got mine in and I cant wait!!!
@JoshuaStone
@JoshuaStone 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Just ordered my micro LR frame- looks like I’ll keep my eye out for a nano LR!
@bripak
@bripak 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained!!
@trajanfpv
@trajanfpv 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea Dave. I would like to give it a try.
@toddspeck9415
@toddspeck9415 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool. You talk tech so well. Thanks for sharing.
@remainsmemories626
@remainsmemories626 3 жыл бұрын
1. Press-fitting those props is more than enough to keep them in place 2. Crazybee f4 lite actually has 350mw vtx (at power level 2), however it still shuts down at 2.7v (ESCs started rebooting during my tests). I will try to modify 5v step-up circuit there to accept lower voltages, but don't know when... 3. You should try 4" props on those 1202.5 motors. You may say it's a lot for them, but hear me out: once I've seen 1102 10k kv motors flying on 5045 props, and they were handling well! So I think that will be enough 4. Try making simple dipole for GPS, it should be enough Overall: once again, very interesting video exploring new unknown territories
@stanvisualseychelles932
@stanvisualseychelles932 3 жыл бұрын
Nice little setup. Keep up the good work
@fpvrepublic9700
@fpvrepublic9700 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like it would be a great way to get people into LR, with everything being so cheap on it ! Now I want one, thank you!! haha
@h2o-fpv623
@h2o-fpv623 3 жыл бұрын
what a great video and drone and yes i think u do need to keep working with this type of drone its the future for us in the fpv thank u
@ivanvrane7213
@ivanvrane7213 3 жыл бұрын
Great!!! This is really interesting.. would Like to have one for sure
@TheZolon
@TheZolon 3 жыл бұрын
VERY interested, as I love cruising around and having something smaller I can take with me when out and about would rock.
@MasterApeFPV
@MasterApeFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Geil! Was looking for something like this, as I live in a semi dense neighbourhood, but would love to cruise around it without bothering anyone.. Both thumbs up!
@centerback8898
@centerback8898 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it going I need something like this to fly from my backyard
@fifofito
@fifofito 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised! you did a great job and an excellent idea. hopefully soon you will upload a video about the latest update with your printed frame design
@jalkingforjesus
@jalkingforjesus 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the picture on Instagram, the battery holder was my first thought as well. If there was a more light weight solution to this setup that would be amazing! Less than 100 grams is a meaningful target for Australia as well as it means you can fly anywhere, including close to an airport or helipad. Thank you for looking into this!
@patchwillie
@patchwillie 3 жыл бұрын
Love this !
@RCnerd74
@RCnerd74 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great setup to explore without having the wish to record in HD. Like it.
@RealKushrage
@RealKushrage 3 жыл бұрын
Oh sehr geil endlich
@RealKushrage
@RealKushrage 3 жыл бұрын
Ich würde es schon cool finden wenn man das Teil in absehbarer Zukunft kaufen könnte
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Ich geb mein Bestes :-D
@ricardoruss8308
@ricardoruss8308 Жыл бұрын
Dave_C vengo del futuro y tu idea ya se comercializa felicitaciones te salió muy bien ya encargue uno Dave_C I come from the future and your idea is already commercialized !! congratulations !! It turned out very well, I already ordered one.
@dagdernit572
@dagdernit572 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I've been making little quads for years using 18650 batts or other 1 cellers with Turnigy Nano-Techs. Fun indoor flyers and getting exercise for our dog in the backyard 🤪 Thanks for sharing!
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Yes it's certainly not all that new
@SteveFPV80
@SteveFPV80 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the idea 🙂
@narpat007
@narpat007 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@bren42069
@bren42069 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool
@artifixprime
@artifixprime 3 жыл бұрын
Love the idea! Few ideas while watching: (1) could you shorten the top plate at the front and print PLA standoffs that you could attach the camera directly to instead of separate TPU mounts? (2) Instead of a battery holder, could you print (PLA again maybe?) two end pieces that can be attached to the top plate (maybe using slots cut in the plate?) with contacts for the battery? (3) if you do mount the battery a simple switch might save weight for wires to the FC as well as for the connectors?
@Anzyclos
@Anzyclos 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, stiff mounting end brackets for the 18650 cell, but then you actually don't need connectors or switches, you just take the battery out. 😁👍
@artifixprime
@artifixprime 3 жыл бұрын
@@Anzyclos LOL - yeah, just take the battery out. I just like having a switch :)
@klopossa2
@klopossa2 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Accent is very understandable, no issues. The documentation is top notch and appreciated by me and others I'm sure. Have a Babyhawk 3" w f4 board, rakon blade guards, was breaking blade too much, cam mount made of leather, old belt, Its fun. The only suggestion I have for the batt tray is make one much lighter. Copper tabs on ea end. Stiff thin plastic under. The smart play, thin batt straps to secure. I love 18650's. E Musk came up w 2150 or something slightly bigger, for his e car batts. So, the metal casing has more weight than a comparable L ion but will never be damaged in crash. I'm subscribed.
@tipsfan88
@tipsfan88 3 жыл бұрын
Way cool! I'd love to have one! The snap in battery idea is super cool too! Maybe incorporate the battery box as part of the top plate. You might save weight that way
@IanBeaty
@IanBeaty 3 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video is quite remarkable. Just this last weekend I was thinking about designing a 1s Li-Ion long range quad. I am really excited that you are thinking about it yourself. I love the idea of small, quiet, safe, long flights, and cheap high capacity batteries. I would definitely buy something like this if it was any good. I still may try to come up with a design myself too.
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! The people work on this the fast we will have a viable concept :-)
@SmallsFPV
@SmallsFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Battery tray is what sold me for sure! Rekon 3 coming soon! 🤞
@DeanF
@DeanF 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, probably the most tedious thing about FPV is strapping a battery in.
@WEEBER13
@WEEBER13 3 жыл бұрын
You Rock, Dave!!
@FUFUFUFPV
@FUFUFUFPV 3 жыл бұрын
crazyness!! I love it!!
@GR8SCOTT
@GR8SCOTT 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your hard work!!! I'm looking for the lightest 3" frame now!
@mikecomeau7419
@mikecomeau7419 3 жыл бұрын
Take my money Dave. If you can make it work, I will buy it!
@RomanPittroff
@RomanPittroff 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept!
@Ever_FPV
@Ever_FPV 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 18650 thing is so cool was thinking of it myself awesome dude
@DrFrantic77
@DrFrantic77 3 жыл бұрын
Verdammt, ist das Ding geil 👍
@maadfisher
@maadfisher 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like an interesting idea, I really hope you’re able to figure out all the kinks. It would be amazing if you can figure out how to just pop in an 18650. Hopefully new technologies will make this even more viable. Keep innovating and stay safe.
@70cad22
@70cad22 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. I’m New to FPV but could you possibly have the battery contacts in the middle (between top and bottom plates) so you can slide to battery in from the back? Put the FC gear then on top the frame? Thanks,
@clementthoo
@clementthoo 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely pursue this. Super interested!
@angelvueladrones
@angelvueladrones 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente trabajo 👍😬 nuevo suscriptor
@samueldysart
@samueldysart 3 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness
@flyingmonkey8245
@flyingmonkey8245 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool class
@Unboxingexperience7
@Unboxingexperience7 3 жыл бұрын
Well I'm messing around with 1s babytooths too. Here are some ideas: -I'm using no prop screws and it's fine (flywoo robo 1202.5) -There is no need for a top plate, 3d printed parts cold hold the battery. -You could save weight by using the Caddy Ant lite (1.5g). -Did you try the Gaoneng 1s 3000maH Lipo? -Try the Happymodel CrazybeeX with integrated 200mW VTX. On 1s you won't need a capacitor either. -There needs to be some kind of higher quality video recording which is for me the main selling point of mid/long range. Naked insta360go? Runcam split 3 lite? Thanks for being creative and innovative! BTW, I'm using your Sanchez lite design on my babytooth :-)
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really great ideas. I have my doubts that HD will ever work on one of those, but who knows...
@JulianBauknecht
@JulianBauknecht 3 жыл бұрын
Maby a 2s 4" lr would be a nice middleground with enought power for a naked GoPro. Has to be under approx 125g to carry 2x 18650 + naked GoPro.
@DutchCommando
@DutchCommando 3 жыл бұрын
I am starting a build to, and opted for a dvr vtx. The fpv cam feed is recorded before it enters the fc. The caddx ant gives pretty good footage straight from the cam, although not HD, it is good quality.
@AtanasBogdanov
@AtanasBogdanov 3 жыл бұрын
May be this could help getting HD cam on board?- Insta 360 Go naked (just 6-7 grams) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7h5fcWA1bPJdaM.html&ab_channel=Unboxingexperience7
@benzoesansodu5866
@benzoesansodu5866 3 жыл бұрын
Why not 21700 5000mAh/35A instead of 2600mAh/35A? +26g and + 100% capacity.
@kaifpv9343
@kaifpv9343 3 жыл бұрын
wow that lion cell looks so cute on that lil drone
@Lozoot2
@Lozoot2 3 жыл бұрын
The gears in my head are turning - the thought of using a single 18650 in a holder is awesome!
@PNGeeFPVMedia
@PNGeeFPVMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, would love to try out this awesome new nano frame... can't wait for it to be available 👌
@509FUN
@509FUN 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could build the clips for the battery into the frame? Somehow isolated and run leads to them from the fc for power?
@archer4922
@archer4922 3 жыл бұрын
Lookin good Dave 👍 keep up the awesome micro work! Loving all the info your getting out there. One day soon I will get in long range(ie over 2 miles lol). I e flown out to 2 miles but want to go further this coming summer and micros seem to be the easiest and cheapest way to do it.
@kkingkreso
@kkingkreso 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave_C this is really great stuff. Hope to see you soon flying around at the Messe-Parkplatz ;-)
@rotorhooligans5563
@rotorhooligans5563 3 жыл бұрын
Hi🙂 great video and work looks cool. I had a similar problem with rx/vtx dropping out when u came down under 3.3v. I solved that issue by soldering a cap on the 3.3v rail.
@henrimcgowan5589
@henrimcgowan5589 3 жыл бұрын
Yes all the 1s everything... I love 1s quads
@staspanchenko2738
@staspanchenko2738 3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone, tell me please where I can buy the exact same frame as in the video.
@Kabab
@Kabab 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I did some 18650 flights with that same cell on a 1S Baby Tooth. After a bunch of flights I was getting a consistent 9-10min of actual no holding back FPV flight. I could get another 3-5min of hovering around but not enough power to have any fun with. The new 1S FC we've made has a min operating voltage of ~2.3-2.5v with the hopes that something like this would be closer to possible. I found 1103 motors to be more efficient. I can't totally explain why and the performance definitely suffers a bit but it was definitely more efficient. My best guess is the voltage better saturates the stator and the taller magnets give it the ability to maintain more rpm with less power. A couple years back, Chad Nowak did some calculations and came up with the ideal weight on a 3" prop at 90g. Pretty intesting that were around that weight and the overall performance even on just 1s really is quite surprising. Disk loading is proving more valuable than I thought. Those battery holders unfortunately don't conduct amps as well as a solder. Similarly, it's a bit sketchy but covering the battery ends really limits the cooling potential of the cell. The ends of the cell cool it better than around the body. The amp draw is high for the single cell so the cooler the better. I considered trying to squeeze more performance out of such a thing but ultimately gave up on it because of the lack of watts to do much with. Also, I didn't test this because I only use xt30 but moving to an xt30 alone could give you more flight time and performance. In my testing I found the gnb27 to be just a tiny bit better than the BT2. Both are way overshadowed by the unfortunately much heavier xt30 and I've found these things in even 1s benefit from that.
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for the inputs, Bob! It's really quite surprising how well these 1S platforms can perform. I probably wouldn't have believed it if someone told me that you can properly run a quadcopter with only 2.5V on the power supply. The lack of power further down the voltage range is less of a concern for something geared towards being a mid-range cruiser. The tray thing might indeed be too inefficient but it's worth a try. I have one with large gold plated contacts that look promising. The convenience of just popping a cheap and widely available 18650 in and get 15min flight time is just too appealing.
@Kabab
@Kabab 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveCFPV I like to say that tv remotes run on more voltage 😅
@Kabab
@Kabab 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaveCFPV Can I print some and make the prints available at fpvcycle.com?
@BrandonBeans
@BrandonBeans 3 жыл бұрын
Can't we run VTX control off soft serial just fine? I do it on my Tadpole so I can have an external logger on a uart.
@jonask.1409
@jonask.1409 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome 👍
@DaveCFPV
@DaveCFPV 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@olaf_hawk
@olaf_hawk 3 жыл бұрын
Hey dude. Have you thought of making it with 21700 battery ? maybe give it 30a rated cell @4000mah ?
@kd2rdhlarry571
@kd2rdhlarry571 3 жыл бұрын
For the battery holder, you don’t need all the plastic in between the contacts. Just the ends that could possibly snap into the top plate. I would say skip the gps unless you figure a way to lose some more of the weight and keep it working. I would fly it
@bokki94
@bokki94 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the #PicoLongRange
@dinofpv551
@dinofpv551 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to instal split camera? For hd record? Thx
@swg_fpv
@swg_fpv 3 жыл бұрын
I. Want. One. NOW - This is amazing!!! If you could put a 1st revision on thingiverse (before you make a properly revised one) that would be cool but I don't want anyone stealing any designs off you haha!
@stratuszero
@stratuszero 3 жыл бұрын
The 3D printed version is already popping up on Facebook. Congrats.
@jacobjametski9878
@jacobjametski9878 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to where you found the frame
@fly99hummingbird
@fly99hummingbird 3 жыл бұрын
excellent 😮👏👍
@HRValles
@HRValles 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Any update on this? You can 3D print the battery tray.
@gus8378
@gus8378 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could make a unibody with a top mounted battery. You could use a toothpick style stack in the front, with the camera on top of it, and have the battery sit behind it in the frame. This would eliminate the weight from the screws, standoffs and top plate.
@md.moinulislam9467
@md.moinulislam9467 3 жыл бұрын
MASHAALLAH khub valo video
@Dot2TheLock
@Dot2TheLock 3 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about integrating the battery holder in to the top plate?
@anzekersic703
@anzekersic703 3 жыл бұрын
I ve always wanted to get into this hobby with nano drones but none of them had like any range so that is awesome
@Sundheden
@Sundheden 3 жыл бұрын
All of the outer "casing" of the battery is "ground", so you don't have to run the full metal bar from the other side, you can just open up the protective shrink wrap by the positive pole, and solder them kinda next to each other!
@E8tone
@E8tone 3 жыл бұрын
Whant to see more!
@MarksRandomVideos
@MarksRandomVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Haha nice work, been waiting on a decent 1S 18650 - vid on my channel experimenting with the Beta85 on the 18650.
@jacobstringfellow6802
@jacobstringfellow6802 3 жыл бұрын
Looks awesome! Like the idea of using a battery tray for the 18650 so there is not a dedicated battery!
@Arek_R.
@Arek_R. 3 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I had designed a microscopic low pass filter for FPV micro quads that is few grams, it never became a product. If you're interested I still should have the file at OSHpark and you should be able to order it and solder it.
@ontariodrone379
@ontariodrone379 3 жыл бұрын
If such a kwad was available on your store, I"d buy it in a heart beat.
@anthonystownsend
@anthonystownsend 3 жыл бұрын
Well can't you use crsf for vtx control so that frees up a UART for a GPS?
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 жыл бұрын
An idea definitely worth developing.......
@nowozzzarya8032
@nowozzzarya8032 3 жыл бұрын
So very very very best
@warbirdflyer46
@warbirdflyer46 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe integrate the battery holder into the top plate by 3d printing the whole top plate plus battery holder together minimal thickness.
@mewintle
@mewintle 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Unibody is the way to go. But that seems to be less off-the-shelf than he’s aiming for.
@Northbourne12
@Northbourne12 3 жыл бұрын
I have a geprc phantom and was already thinking could it fly off one 18650 so there is an interest in this idea.
@jacquemeier2005
@jacquemeier2005 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@theroburrito
@theroburrito 3 жыл бұрын
This is super awesome. This is not a solution in search of a problem, its totally the kind of class of quad the hobby is missing: Accessible long range. The hardcore long range stuff is intimidating, but your parts list on thingiverse comes in around $100 usd which is super reasonable.
@flightevolution8132
@flightevolution8132 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to buy something like this to match your other 4in micro lr.
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