NanoVNA H4 Setup and Usage with NanoVNA-Saver

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Today I welcome TheSmokinApe onto the channel who has several good videos up about the NanoVNA device. We will walk through calibration of the NanoVNA-saver software and scanning 2 different antennas with the NanoVNA H4 device.
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@josempantaleon 3 жыл бұрын

Wow... Hey Jason, no BS this is one of my favorite collab videos. I hope that you and Ape do more together. The dynamic really works. Good job guys. 73

@olivierconet7995 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial. I appreciate the "novice" questions and errors point of view.

@penzman 3 жыл бұрын

Received mine minutes ago. Thank you both for your videos on it.

@thereare4lights137 3 жыл бұрын

When you calibrate the NanoVNA and you're planing on using a short jumper and adaptor, you need to run the calibration having the jumper attached and using the open, short, and load on the end. The NanoVNA should have come with a female to female adaptor. Adding that short jumper will change the impedance of the line between your antenna and the VNA. You can test this by running the calibration the way you did, then add the jumper and measure with the load. The marker in the Smith chart will have moved away from center.

@bernardshrevejr. 2 жыл бұрын

I was going to point this out too, but you pointed it out already. I am an electronic technician (not a HAM yet, but I am into GMRS radio), and this does matter and is correct.👍 This also goes for any connection adapter\extensions you plan or would have to use for operation use after testing.

@hightekkrednek 6 ай бұрын

Ya, if not calibrated with adapters one needs to use the electrical delay function to account for the added length between calibrated point and antenna. Not doing so WILL inevitably result in a false measurement and therefore incorrectly built/tested antenna.

@stevehildreth1934 Ай бұрын

Got an H4 coming tomorrow.

@oldbassist60 Жыл бұрын

Just got an H-4. Anxious to learn some applications. Thanks guys. AD6AE

@quaildogusa 5 ай бұрын

I got my NanoVNA and just testing the device I learned a lot about my antenna

@mayimchaimqigongstudio6570 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I have been using my NanoVNA alone for a while. I downloaded the Nanovna saver software some time ago as well but just couldn't figure it out. Today I walked through with my set up as you did it in the video and it all came together. So much better to be able to see everything on a larger screen. So far I only have been using my NanoVNA for checking the SWR on my antennas. Thanks.

@stevecampbell4118 2 жыл бұрын

I've got one arriving tomorrow. This video really gives me a leg up on using it. Thanks!

@jamiecook5066 3 жыл бұрын

Spiked my interests. I have been looking at these. Now I will probably pull the trigger and get one!!!! Thank you Jason!!!

@HamRadio2 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting.

@quaildogusa 5 ай бұрын

This video is great. It really flattened the learning curve.

@HamRadio2 5 ай бұрын

Thanks

@AnglinTexas 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this content. I had already watched TheSmokinApe video on this, but I got a lot out of this video from him walking your through it step by step. I have the SAA-2N on the way. I like the idea of the N being more rugged and the larger screen.

@jeffcoomes7860 3 жыл бұрын

just ordered mine today and will be playing with it sunday

@HamRadio2 3 жыл бұрын

Let me know how you like it

@jeffcoomes7860 3 жыл бұрын

@@HamRadio2 still trying to figure it out and i just got a pi and working to program that for ft8 and ham radio stuff

@brentjohnson6654 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jason & Ape! Great video. My NanoVNA has quit working and I am looking which one to buy. I really like the nanoVNA - who knew I could have a network analyzer for home use for so cheap!! So I am probably going to get the H4 that Ape recommended on his video from RandL. Thanks again for the video. Now for the wind to die down in north Texas so I can put up my HF antennas. We have also used the nanoVNA to find a break in the feed line by using it as a TDR. Pretty cool!

@billfarnham1592 4 жыл бұрын

If you were going to use he jumper, should you have done the calibration with the jumper attached and put the standards on the end of the jumper so it couldn't make any difference in your measurement?

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

NanoVNA says to do the calibration with just the standards attached, so that is what we did. You could do them with the jumpers too, if you wish...but it shouldn't matter much. We just followed the instructions from the manufacturer

@captainmidnight5958 3 жыл бұрын

If understand all correctly, wouldn't using the SMA adapter cable to the antenna coax feed change, or defeat, the calibration?

@mcgrath16511 Жыл бұрын

Nice video.. been contemplating one of these little creatures,, this seals the deal. Plus I’m sure there’s a bunch more that can be done.. thanks to both of you!

@rd2082 4 жыл бұрын

I bought one of these from R&L yesterday, wake up to see the notification for the video this morning. Sure I'll watch it again once I have one in my hands.

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@arthurziegler6021 5 ай бұрын

I have an HP8754 and I like comparing functions

@tomsmith4100 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help understanding the NANOVna unit.

@bruceweight7319 3 жыл бұрын

I Just got a Nano VNA H4 it seems like a wonderful device and quite complicated in it's capabilities. I notice my screen is dim when the USB cable is hooked up like yours, it might be a difference in firmware? One thing I am learning is that you set up all of everything, frequency range, markers, Smith chart, Logmag, SWR etc. then do the calibration and then save it. If you just turn it on and set the range and then calibrate it that is what it will save and the next time you recall it you have to go through all the setup of everything else. Also I am leaving the short cable attached to mine with the barrel connector attached, that way I wont wear out the device connector. I can just replace the jumper. I calibrate it with the jumper and female by female SMA attached, I noticed quite a difference in measurement if i took the jumper off and screwed the 50 ohm load directly to the unit and or if I connect it to the cable, so I calibrate it with which ever I am going to use. Just learning. Thanks for the nice video, I put the Saver software on my laptop and I will have to do some more learning. Again thanks.

@straightpride451 3 жыл бұрын

You're my wittle nano!

@steventatum9327 Жыл бұрын

I just bought the one APE said on his channel now when I get it im going to lurk his videos hard LOL

@donaldsmith3048 4 жыл бұрын

I have some old RG8 and not sure if it is still good. I am thinking that if I connect the coax between the 2 connectors it should show if it is good. At this time I am making sure I have all my radios ready for the Hurricane that will be here in a little over a day. Must make sure I can talk to the local EOC and WX4NHC!

@davidlinux 3 жыл бұрын

Super video! I applauded for $10.00 👏👏👏

@HamRadio2 3 жыл бұрын

Yay! Thank you!

@dannydivine7699 Ай бұрын

So how much of this stuff can you do on a Stick 500? It has capability to connect to PC also right??

@tjalessi 3 жыл бұрын

This was really great! Thank you two so much. Tom - K1TA

@RGreyVanIngen 3 ай бұрын

Sir, What I.m looking for is a tutorial to upgrade the firmware for my NanoVNA-H 4 using my Mac Book. I think I have found and downloaded the correct DFU file but finding a Mac OS compatible bootloader has been unsuccessful. Thank you!

@jvignali1 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent!!! Very good video, learned a lot!

@HamRadio2 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@quaildogusa 5 ай бұрын

I found that I don't have to calibrate Saver v0.6.2. If I have saved calibrations in NanoVNA-H4, just recalling one in the VNA, Saver will pick it up. Don't have to shutdown or restart or anything. Just recall in the VNA and Saver will pick it right up. But I will add. Even if Saver picks it up for use, Saver will not let you save it. And that might be good. The next time you use Saver it might be with a different VNA.

@donaldsmith3048 2 жыл бұрын

I have Nano VNA But have trouble seeing it. Thank you for the information. I will get the software to use.

@HamRadio2 2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@vanherridge9320 Жыл бұрын

somewhere there is a brightness control, I set mine to 2500 and it seems to be full brightness.

@w4mkh 3 жыл бұрын

When you turn it on it defaults to the calibration set in slot 0. So I did a calibration for 3MHZ to 30MHZ then saved it in slot 0. So I could do a full HF scan.

@SteveCholerton 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@LU2AEZ 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a nanoVNA H4, in the screen appear this "error si5351_init failed" in all moment, so, I downloading the new firmware, the error disapear but I haven´t any calibration, the point green dance in the screen, I change the firmware for oldest that the original, nothing the error again apear, any idea? Thank you form LU2AEZ, sorry for my english!

@2wrdr 2 жыл бұрын

We learned to measure SWR and saving calibrated frequency ranges. How about impedance? Is there simply way for that?

@whitepinephotography5887 4 жыл бұрын

I downloaded Ver 0.3.6. when I hit connect to device, the program shuts down. It does connect at first, comm port is correct and even loads pre configured freq data. Any thoughts?

@bobflyer4346 4 жыл бұрын

Could you share the URL/link for the NanoSaver H4 software, Tnx Maybe I overlooked it in this comment section or the links?

@wa0kzqxxx154 4 жыл бұрын

the other nice thing is you can test you cable for db loss and length

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, there are lots of things this device will do

@MrKvammen 3 жыл бұрын

I got my Original SAA-2N NanoVNA V2 3GHz 2.2 Versjon today. I have found that they have sent me two Load plugs and one Open, no Short. Am I in trouble and have to ask for the Short before I can use the tool?

@jimchase7028 3 жыл бұрын

I'm having trouble understanding how to download/install Nano vna saver to my PC. I've done all kinds of search engine searches but it evidently doesn't install like a conventional Windows PC program? Or am I overlooking something simple?

@HamRadio2 3 жыл бұрын

I believe the executable just runs, it doesn't install.

@jimchase7028 3 жыл бұрын

@@HamRadio2 Thanks, I finally figured that out. It just takes a while to run.

@coolman1987us 4 жыл бұрын

Don't be afraid to reset it! Calibration is finicky, just hit reset in the calibration menu and do the calibration again.

@rhwinner 4 жыл бұрын

How does it connect to the computer to run the software: is it a Type C to Type C USB or a serial port? I'm not sure if my laptop has a serial port....

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

It isn't a serial port. I am pretty sure it is USB-C, IIRC

@ve6kk 3 жыл бұрын

@@HamRadio2 The H4 has a type C USB jack and comes with both C-C and C-standard USB cables to connect to the PC and to charge.

@hhampton 3 жыл бұрын

The Android software is called NanoVNA WebApp. It doesn't have all the features of the NanoVNA Saver PC software, mostly just the basics.

@bobflyer4346 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Video: I have the H4 from R&L, works great. I have a question on the NanoSaver Software. I have heard comments on the number of sample points being greater with the Saver software vs the 101 points on the stand alone H4 (not connected to NanoSaver). If NanoSaver provides more sample points, where is the setup for the same? Any pointers as to where this sample point configuration is in NanoSaver, perhaps I have some sort of blindness? Thanks

@wa4aos 3 жыл бұрын

If nothing else, the nanovna and the MANY excellent YT videos will help newbies to the hobby and those of us who have been around the block many times to better understand impedance issues and how this correlates to antenna design and operation. I am surprised how accurate these units are compared to commercial VNAs made by HP and others. These units are plenty good enough for much of the basic work most techies will need, less where you need more dynamic range for things like tuning duplexers. At the hundred dollar mark or way less for the smaller units, hopefully, many hams will roll their own antennas instead of buying them online. just saying !

@elkhartcountyskywarn2879 3 жыл бұрын

I just got my NANOVNA, and for the life of me trying to find the correct software for windows 10, 64bit is driving me nuts. can someone point me in the right direction? I am totaly lost.....

@wpiofm 2 жыл бұрын

Can it do distance-to-fault?

@nooneyouknow9399 17 күн бұрын

Why do VNA newbies refuse to say S 1 1? There is no s-parameter called S Eleven or S Twenty One

@richardwhitcroftkc3rrw63 3 жыл бұрын

I just picked up the H4 from amazon.... i am diving head first into the ham hobby pool ...rich - KC3RRW

@GunsandRadios 4 жыл бұрын

Is there a link to the software / instructions on how to install?

@rohnkd4hct260 4 жыл бұрын

Ok...........now I'm have to get one lol

@donaldsmith3048 4 жыл бұрын

I got a nanovna from Amazon months ago. Will this software work with older versions of the nano?

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

Yes I believe so

@benjosevilla 7 ай бұрын

Nice tutorial please fix link to r and l

@HamRadio2 7 ай бұрын

Fixed

@ErwinSerle Жыл бұрын

milli Hertz and Mega Hertz, ;-)

@blueoutside3394 3 жыл бұрын

So would you suggest this to a new ham and can it be used as a swr? If it's not a swr do you have suggestions for a enexpensive swr?

@williamwinter3921 3 жыл бұрын

i need to correct The Smoking Ape, he said that the H model doesn't come with a case but it does i just bought an H model and it did come in a case don't get mad at me i just thought you would like to know

@HamRadio2 3 жыл бұрын

At the time of this recording, it didn't come with a case. When I got my H4, no case was included. It is good to know they have updated that.

@williamwinter3921 3 жыл бұрын

i just got mine and the software i have is 3.8

@coziii.1829 3 жыл бұрын

So I’m new What is this supposed to be or work for.

@HamRadio2 3 жыл бұрын

It analyzes antennas to see what frequency they work for

@timbellenfant5611 4 жыл бұрын

R&L has this for $59.95 and Amazon is $102.95 . If this is correct it's no wonder R&L. can't keep them in stock. Unle I'm overlooking something. I'm getting one of those. KN6AAH

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

You are correct. R&L by far has the best price on them.

@j.trevorharris5645 3 жыл бұрын

Anything other than 1 meter is plural. So 1.2 Meters is correct..FYI

@coolman1987us 4 жыл бұрын

about time, where have you been? I've had this for 2 weeks now. Your supposed to be whats new not whats a month ago

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

LOL the NanoVNA H4 has been out for much longer than a month...

@coolman1987us 4 жыл бұрын

Ham Radio 2.0 just screwin with ya. They are quite a nifty little toy. A+ on your content keep it up especially the DMR stuff!

@HamRadio2 4 жыл бұрын

@@coolman1987us Haha ok...sometimes it is hard to tell. I do get guys who just want to complain. Razzing is always welcome though, I laugh with you. 73 and thanks for watching.

@r.hooper2355 4 жыл бұрын

Talk about timing!! Received this end of last week and fixxen to learn how to use. Thank you for doing this. Awesome 😃 73 K4QJS hoop