So a biracial woman standing up for herself and placing boundaries is narcissism but an institution that has lasted 37 generation and 1k+ is narcissism? You have literally got to be f'ing kidding me. Brits cannot even heat their f00kin homes yet this non a story is what you're repeating. smh

@@shortyp1000 🙄

@@shortyp1000 What does her being a biracial woman have to do with it?

Those three are not a trio.

I think it's going to be great! 😁🤠👍

I agree with you 100%

Empathy - big time...

How is it that "well educated" cannot seem to manage a simple plural? Or a contraction? Or punctuation? Or the common phrase, "many times"? Or the equally common, "plenty of times"? (Or whatever was being attempted!)

Was he honest when criticising drug policy and addicts in general whilst hiding a chronic benzodiazepine addiction? I'm not judging as I'm in recovery myself so I know well enough that many addicts are inherently dishonest both to others and themselves

Your comment appears to deny even minor statements made, excuse troublesome behaviour, & make definitive 'he couldn't be' statements based on your OPINION his emotion is honest etc & absolutely couldn't be manipulative, when that is simply untrue in reality. It is entirely possible it could be contrived & manipulative & your denial of that FACT is just like how a 'cult member' justifies their statements/beliefs. As a 'well educated' person etc, you might want to study cognitive dissonance ;o)

he’s a bit of a mess , really.

dont like the guy, my intuition is saying something opposite

@@michals1108 He is a fraud.

@@ileanamuntean7338 yes I think same he is a mess

Yes! Jada diagnosed the 2 inch facelift scar in her hairline as alopecia (because hair doesn't grow on scars). She's too much.

Legally she is!...A Princess of the United Kingdom....Unbelievable that Harry married her....What a pratt!

She is on the list

Well, the list of "famous" narcissists would be too long. Whatever the percentage of the general population is "narcissists", you could probably multiply that by 10 if you are looking at people in show business.

Yes, people don't understand that just because she married a Prince, it doesn't necessarily make you a princess. I'm sure that was made clear to her, yet she would go around telling children that she was a princess. Catherine, on the other hand, would gently correct a child calling her a princess and say "no, I'm (just a ) Duchess. Even though she knew she would one day be the Princess of Wales, and eventually Queen. She has no airs, no attitude of superiority, nor does she attempt to draw attention from herself and especially not away from her husband like Meghan does to Harry. She pushes and pulls him out of the way so that she can be in the spotlight or be the first to talk to some dignitary or other.

I left a year ago, after 10 years. We've been pretty good at co-parenting and family time. I don't expect it to last but I have leverage and receipts. They don't change and I did lose myself. It's only been the last couple months that I've been getting back to myself. It's helpful to read what you shared.

what if this person has no real friends? Where can they escape ? who can they go to? what if their own people's are narcs?

​@@user-lp9ou1hf4e Beware getting stuck in the victim mode that your partner and apparently family put you into. You can take positive action for yourself. Make friends in a support group, church, club, class or hobby group, or even on a friend finding app like BFF Meetup, or HeyVina!

Feel yas sister! Chewed gum!! Spit out and move on. Take care of you first

It's called doing soul searching on your inner child

@@user-og6em7mk9l same to you 🫶🏼✌️

I wonder if there is a difference between Controlling & Narc?

I’m 57 & never married-I didn’t want to be 80 & with a narcissitic man for 60 yrs like my mother. It’s a miserable life I see her living.

This probably should be considered - by you - alongside another comment you made on this thread : " Richard is one of the most genuine and authentic people I have come across ".

@@marvinedwards3130 By having that experience I have learnt who is genuine and who isn’t. Happy new year to you Marvin!

@@l.c838 Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. Afterall, none of us are infallible. Happy new year to you too.

@@l.c838 I have such a hard time trusting anyone (except my sibling) nowadays.

Been there... it's horrible

He claims to consider hierarchies of competence to be sooo important, yet he uses his platform to proselytise about disciplines on which he lacks the most basic competence, such as philosophy (Postmodern-Neomarxists conspiracy theory) and economics (lobster theory of capitalism) and politics (everything is the left's fault, including right wing extremisms and their political violence) in the knowledge that his platform is way bigger than that of any actual expert in those fields... he definitely has a disproportionate image of himself.... He gaslit public opinion by claiming Marxists would not debate him when most people were listening but then quietly made it impossible to debate Marxist economist Richard Wolff by requesting $70.000 to the student union that asked him when he wanted the debate to take place... Wolff was very happy to cover his own costs and take no pay to have the debate which should tell you everything about each guy's motives When a public debate with a marxist philosopher finally happened, as observed by Grannon, his contribution were very low in any content. For all his railing against Marx he actually demonstrated all he had read of him was a short 18 page political pamphlet when Marx was primarily an economist and wrote thousands of pages of work...

@@strumspicks2456 Peterson is entirely clear, if you listen carefully, that his core competence is belief structures of totalitarian political regimes, psychometrics, personality assessment, and clinical psychology. That's entirely enough for one person. He also has his "sage" stage persona where he opines about everything and anything. That's his entertainment business. His audience doesn't _want_ him to be a patient and devout Marxist scholar. They _want_ him to hurl lemon cream pies. So far as Marx goes, he's not remembered well as an economist. Modern economics incorporates very little from Marx. His foundational definition of value, which he set up to equate (or conflate) with tangible labour outputs, excludes most of the modern economy, where the outputs are primarily information. His thousands of pages of economic output are mostly of historical interest at this point. I'm sure there are nuggets of insight in there, somewhere, but the reconstruction effort is immense, because he kicked his main project off on the wrong foot. Freud is remembered better as a psychologist, despite the majority of his specific proposals (e.g. the complexes right out of Greek literature) having little traction in modern psychiatry. The subconscious is a big deal, and Freud was instrumental in bringing attention to this domain. What Marx is remembered for is his activist political stance around class consciousness. The popular understanding of Marx's class consciousness is barely one napkin in excess of the Laffer curve originally used to justify Reaganomics (which was actually drawn up on something ready to hand from a restaurant table). I've tried to get beyond the popular understanding of Marx, but it's actually hard to find anything where Marx's foundational political move doesn't strike me as the most reductive conception of natural human affiliation ever put to paper. Nor have I ever found anything persuasive about how human affairs would be securely organized after the proletarian rapture. Inside baseball, Marx is also remembered as a historian. _Marx never brought together in one published work a systemic or comprehensive description of historical materialism._ Marx would not be a major figure in the public consciousness for an abstruse, interwoven re-interpretation of history dribbled out over several decades in thousands of pages of dense prose. It was his radicalism that injected him into the conversation. On that front, he has plenty in common with Jordan Peterson. Marx's actual radicalism does not strike as as much more sophisticated than Peterson's lobsters. I don't think a substantive treatment would _need_ more than 18 pages. Contrary to your depiction, Peterson's lobsters are a biological metaphor for dominance hierarchies. I don't happen to like this metaphor. I believe in the biological foundation of dominance hierarchies to begin with, and for my money this metaphor did not further the cause. Everything gets more complicated with a thick neocortex wrapped around it, but I wouldn't dare to pretend that the biochemical basis of dominance hierarchies is not still in there, alive and kicking. (continued)

@@strumspicks2456 (continued) Peterson hardly ever talks about economics, as such, that I can think of. His basic line is maybe this: hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Don't wind up in the poor house because you failed to take responsibility for your situation while there was still time to do something constructive about it. He talks about the economic realities of the job market for A) unskilled labour (grim); and B) highly skilled creative labour doing original work (barely less grim). His personality has a dark side, which he freely admits, and it's often darker than I prefer. You might disagree with my assessment of Marx, but I've been more generous to Marx than you've been to Peterson. Should Peterson be required to possess a degree in Marxist scholarship to publically critique what little of Marx has penetrated the public consciousness? My term for that is institutional capture. Only we can criticize ourselves. Please line up to spend $200,000 for a graduate degree, while squandering four or five of the most productive years of your life in dry, arduous study, with little time left over for gainful employment. And to what current relevance? The introduction of _Capital_ by Thomas Piketty devotes roughly two pages of the introduction to Marx's economic contributions. Short version: A few good insights into the perils of capital accumulation, larded with (unjustified) apocalyptic fervor-much of which did not pan out as Marx envisioned. Also, Marx's methodology was soon invalidated by this new invention called "data", which Marx might have happily used, had it then existed, but he jumped the gun. So Marx had this napkin-level analysis of the governing dynamics of a rapidly changing world (1850 to 1950 was wall-to-wall gonzo innovation) which justified total overthrow of the golden goose. Horse and buggy to space rockets; Darwin to DNA; lemon juice to pen stock turbines; none of this dents Marx's sketchy revolution. He had it all figured. Yeah, there were problems. This wasn't new then, it isn't new now. Over the last 100 years, another 6 billion people have joined the clamour. We've mostly coped. On the other hand, with less prosperity, likely also less population growth, so perhaps Marxism was a viable "solution" after all. Things would be so much better if we had deferred 3 or 4 billion lives-and their contributions-by another century or two. It's not eugenics, it's slowgenics. With less human capital, innovation would have been slower. For example, we might now-here in 2023-be updating our Facebook presence via dial-up, which works fine, because we all have half as many friends. La plus ça change, as they say.

Dr. Drew Pinsky (yes, that Dr. Drew) delves into a number of cogent points about addicts and narcissism. The tl;dr of it is that addicts are highly narcissistic when active, but it's unclear whether personality structure issues resolve with treatment through time or if said issues are still lifelong following abstinence. Dr. Pinsky thinks it is an underlying issue altogether through his decades of practice (before he became well-known on TV).

meh...he is a word salad master....kind of a bs artist. some good points...but he takes things too far and tries to practice verbal jiu jitsu to amaze and befuddle..certainly not to communicate clear truth.

Boo Hoo, I am a clinical psychologist, and you need to grow up Peterson is classic magligant narcissist

Hmm, just because you can’t recognize it, doesn’t mean he isn’t

@@Blondie77128 JUST BECAUSE YOU IMAGINE IT DOESN’t mean it’s so.

He’s an idiot

Lol. Ok

WORSE, SHE IS USING BLACK PEOPLE. PROBABLY LAUGHING AT THEM IN PRIVATE. OH TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL

Well said

Bing-O!!! Spot On!!

In the US those with 28% and higher African ancestry often identify as black, less than caucasian.

I like him too!

I love JP

@@AndrewGold1 I'm Nuetral I think his genius is some what over blown But impressed with his stance re the Canadian Gov overreach🕊️ 🕊️

Yeah. He is concerned about people who have views opposed to his own and calls them demons and trolls. Beautiful human

@@steven5054 he's defo super marmite I like to study him & the responses he correlates with, like a sociology project... 🕊️

That is because I believe Richard is a hybrid covert/ vulnerable narcissist himself. I saw the red flags throughout his interview.

Very true 👍👏👏👏👏

Covert narcs don't meet criteria for NPD (according to consensus opinion of clinical psychs) and are largely considered treatable. They are still very narcissistic though but are easily disarmed by triggering their still-intact self-doubt. Dyed in the wool pathological narcissists are essentially psychopaths that operate via their _chosen_ identity whereas only psychopaths operate mostly by impulse. Covert narcissists are able to feel guilt, whereas pathological narcissists and psychopaths cannot feel guilt.

@@Meritouschannelsyes!!!

Chris Watts! There's a very informative channel called "live abuse free" who analyses different narcissists and she was very good at explaining how covert narcissists minds work.

Yes, then they go out into the real world and are not prepared what hits them. They are incapable of dealing with challenges that may be brought against them, particularly in employment.

80s?

I was a school student in Australia in 80s and until the mid 90s and by no means were the teachers positive all the time to us at all. Also I'm gen X not a Millenial. For Millenials you would be looking at 90s and into 2000s anyway.

I am a teacher and that negative feedback is the backbone of improvement and progress. Perhaps those students now believe the king is well-dressed..

And the gems and lessons that come in those rewrites can make incredible writers and authors of Great Works with some good suggestions. So TRUE!!!

Very well said and I totally agree with you

Same , it shows how despicable they are.

Aw thank you Bruce!!!

Agree 100% ❤️❤️

@@AndrewGold1 Such an insightful conversation✨

Maybe you're a narcissist as well?

Obviously, you are not seeing the truth and still fooled by him as he says what you want to hear

Yep. Everyone's ex is a "narcissist."

Exactly,its quite complicated,yet ppl grab the first sentence of any description and apply widely. They forgot “selfish” and brand it as “narcissist “. They can morph into each other but thats a different story. Misuse of language these days is mind blowing and irresponsible

Narcissism is quite prominant, however, some are mildly narcissistic, others are highly narcissstic. And of course there ARE many people who attract narcissists. Empaths attract narcissists - they love people who acquiesce to them, are overly tolerant, givers who do not expect others to reciprocate. It only makes sense. So caregiving individuals need to learn what they can about narcissists and pay attention to what they are seeing and experiencing.

@@estherscegolsky1972 I agree. The difference is like: a selfish person will bring one bottle to the party and will drink it alone forgetting about the partner. A narc will bring nothing and will blame his/her partner for it

@@evenbetterthanthereaIthing brilliant explanation

Yes Dr. Jordy Poo is a narcissist and the term is communal narcissist!!!!

I'm is an act. Cares to promote a false narrative

Agreed. Peterson does not belong in this group.

@@rs5570 you must be him at rolling your own. Stop over defending there is bigotry and backwardness in his work source material that came from narcist b and he could be pretending to care for is very specific demographic that just happens to be you and you can't see beyond

It's hilarious to me how everyone is a narcissist these days and diagnosed by erm, armchair analysts, what the fuck does it actually mean Narcissistic people and people pleasers are of the same coin just different sides

Peterson is a narcissist. I've watched him and see how he rationalizes all his thought-speech but he cannot hide it. He also has a misogynist view of women and strongly believes women should be submissive to men and suffers because his machismo dream is unrewarded. Additionally, he is a control freak. He breaks down and cries at the end of most of his interview "sessions" because he is so frustrated the world does not work the way he wants it to.

He’s a fake. Manipulative.

i like peterson but he makes some wild statements that are very damaging to young people. like his stupid statements on how you should dress like an adult and belittles people for dressing like children. this is a downright stupid and damaging idea to plant into peoples heads as if there is such a thing as "dressing like an adult"

i will also add you have no idea how much compassion peterson has you have probably never even met the man but yet somehow you feel you know enough to make a claim over what is going on inside someone else's head. kinda scary when you think about it

@@jjg1501 u don't have to meet people to pas a judgement but most importantly for it being right

Good for you. Sounds like you've worked hard to break the chain (so to speak) from that family perhaps? Or if it's a chemical imbalance that runs in your family, you didn't get that gene. It's difficult to keep them at bay. :)

Wow, you really broke the pattern before it even started. Amazing. Some of us has spent all life narc jumping.

@@michellemooresings thank you, I try to give myself acknowledgement for every strength and progress no matter how small which is a huge step forward from how bad I used to treat myself . So I appreciate the positive reinforcement 🙏 I think as the scapegoat I could feel and see it was all wrong and fought against it even though I couldn’t fully grasp why due to all the gaslighting and projection. I felt so trapped at home that I can’t understand how people long for their childhoods, I would never go back to that helpless and powerful feeling. I so waited to be a grown up and be able to feel free and have peace that I couldn’t even accept the thought of a new prison, if that makes sense. To be clear I had a lot of issues with boundaries at work and with friends for most of my life but never in relationships. Maybe that’s why I only had a few short and only one serious relationship with my now husband. I also think that as an introvert I find intimacy and my home extremely sacred and I could never share it with someone that would destroy that for me. Interestingly enough my husband is also the first child in a narc family. Both his parents are narcissistic albeit different kind than mine.

@@hsk2909 thank you I appreciate your words 🙏. Like I elaborated in my other reply I still had a problem with boundaries with everyone else until recently and I have started to make progress only in the last few years with a lifetime to unlearn. I just didn’t allow it in my relationships and maybe it was because I so longed to get out of the e prison I was in that I promised myself I’d rather be alone than let anyone in my intimate introvert life that would disturb my peace. I don’t think I ever had real peace though because I always tormented myself for everything and everyone but at least I didn’t have to put up with that at home 🙏

There is - I'd say - a big difference between knowing, that your parent(s)/family is "defect", and knowing that it's about narcissism. How old were you, before you "put the label on"? I was far to old to really be able to change anything important for me. Except for the "OMFG-AHAAAA" where all the pieces of the puzzle, that I had fought with and spoken about with "anybody I met" just slid into place, the knowledge just came to late.

Very interesting

She married a Prince,unlike you and your sis ;)

That is fantastic. I escaped from an abusive relationship many years ago.

It's hard to do. There is so much conditioning over time with this experience. Good Job Wendy Smith - a difficult job to do and follow through with - emotionally painFULL in moments and completely liberating in the long run. Good on YOU!!!

Does you mother have a formal NPD diagnosis? Do your former partners have formal NPD diagnoses?

@@rv706 No, narcissist's have a less than 1% cure rate - everyone else has the problem but them in their mindset. To try to get a formal NPD diagnosis in which the Narc participated in & went to healing for . . . is next to impossible - thus such a low cure rate for it.

A friend, a psychology student, unknowingly straightened me out regarding my life. My mother was diagnosed as a narcissist when she was in her 60's. The friend told me not to waste time trying to figure her out. Just move on with my life, don't analyze it etc. I did and my life changed for the better. To be told that I had the option to move on and let it all fade away was magnificent.

The word ‘expert’ always arouses doubt and suspicion in me.

What's this guy's educational background?

Because he is a grifter and a hack. This is all to get clicks, everything he says is based on incorrect or blatantly obvious information from observations.

Religious leaders of groups are odd. Just an excuse to force one to agree with their ideas I.m.o.

@@user-ym3xf6xp4c it's to be as Godlike as possible to other people

Others may call you an expert but it is very poor form , read: pathetic, to call yourself one.

Rubbish IMHO. This dude had been teaching on narc abuse for over a decade at least, when I stumbled upon him. How long does someone have to specialise on a topic to be an expert, in your opinion.

I'm so glad you were able to connect with a therapist so early! It absolutely changed the likely trajectory of your life! ❤

@@caobranch thank you so much!❤️❤️❤️

Aw thank you tim!

I’ve never heard that before, it’s very wise.

That's a good one. I will be using it.. Sounds like something Oscar Wilde would have said

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@@aussieannie01 ~ Yea ...something Peterson said. He does NOT belong there!

Disagree as per usual with a narcissist when JP says it he’s baiting you with his issues. He knows only himself and is reading himself. Like Trump. Trump along with some of the most expensive and creepy narcissists out there is like the gold standard for malignant narcissists. JP only lives in that sort of shadow but he had all the tenets of Trump projecting.

It’s the worst thing you can do. You’re not an expert of educated enough to deem who is and isn’t a narcissist. Every single person displays narcissistic traits and if you catch someone on a bad day you’ll diagnose them in error.

You just made the case for why we attract narcissists, you do realize this? The same way we can sniff out a narc a mile away when we’ve been abused by them, is the same way they can sniff out a vulnerable person who can easily be victimized while providing them the fuel they need. I’ve done years of therapy for narcissistic abuse and am quite solid in my boundaries, and married to a wonderful loving normal man now, but I still manage to get narcissists swirling around me in everyday life. The strange attraction they have for me is very disconcerting. They want to be my friend, they want me to go work for them. No thanks!!! I’ve left jobs when I ended up with a narc boss. I’ve ghosted narc friends. I have zero tolerance for them.

@@ALT-vz3jn We don't attract, they try with several people and we are the only ones who accept these behaviors. Who is normal does not accept. That's not attracting, that's being one of those who fall into the trap. Attracting is another thing.

​@@testebiiidama4129 I totally agree with you and feel annoyed when some of the narcissism counsellors etc state that relatively healthy people, or anyone, can be manipulated by highly narcissistic individuals, then stay with them for years, yet there are people who notice red flags right away and won't see the person again. 🤔

@@cyndigooch1162 That's right, all of us who have been manipulated by a narcissist at some point in our lives, can look at the past and remember people who looked at them with strangeness and sometimes even with disgust the first time they met. Healthy people can be fooled by some Cover narc for a very short time or a very superficial acquaintance. But manipulated only those who already have the pattern of behavior.

Yah for sure the mark of a narcissist is when they alone can help you

Thank u for ur insightful recount. Victims who r not fully aware of the narcisstic patterns of relationships. Victims, who r still captives in relationships, or have just dicovered the harrowing truth. Those victims r in the MOST DANGEROUS stage. The need EDUCATION on how to SAFETY MEASURES in order to exit without losing their lives or their sanity. Victims who r still striving to figure out the healing journey with qualified psychiatrists who have compiled their knowledge over decades of case studies of narcissts/victims .

Why the capitals? Not really sure what you’re trying to say?

Wow that is all kinds of wrong.

I actually purchased one of his courses( It was about 4-5 years ago) called "Silence The Inner Critic". I am not someone who has a whole lot of money, and at the time I actually used my financial aid card to sign up for it! 😂😂😂 I believe the total for the course was at least 400-450(could've been more, I honestly don't remember). I only ended up paying half because my financial aid check didn't end up going through on time for the final payment. I remember how terrible I felt at that moment about it, because he's someone I've been following and looked up to greatly. But I thank God now in retrospect, because maybe 8 months after the initial release the course was FREE!!!! Lol There was nothing special in the course, and one step included the emotional flashback work which has always been free. I just left that incident and approach others with the mindset that most people and professionals do not have a clue how to heal trauma. Because honestly, I'm really starting to think that it can't come from an outside source. My opinion, of course. I still watch his stuff and others on this topic, but I'm not watching anymore for some magic cure.

How do u know that? You are making assumptions

I completely agree. Even the relationship he has with his adult children shows his personality.

@@aWomanFreed The two guys are doing the same thing. Judging without meeting them. I have started watching Peterson's video's the past two months and find him very intelligent. He has a doctorate in Psychology and a BS in Political Science. And when he has discussions with people that have different views, he shows respect and the whole discussion is respectful on both sides. I have never heard of Gannon. I read he has a BSc in Psychology from Aston University. He is a life coach. Read the biographies of both men and watch one of the JP you tube videos that might interest you.

@@laurieinmn6468 thanks, but I’ve already watched everything Peterson has ever posted online….and my conclusion….he’s a fraud. He has a doctorate in psychology from what college? What infamous psychologist had his home base there back in the 1950s? A quick google search can answer that for you….if u wanna know. Sorry but it’s true….Peterson is not who he appears to be.

@@aWomanFreed I didn’t make any assumptions. I’m familiar with him and have watched him on interviews and podcasts. He’s the opposite of a narcissist. He says and does things that a narcissist would never do. He respects others, admits when he’s wrong or has made mistakes, shows empathy and compassion, kindness, and forgiveness. He’s charitable towards others and humble. I determined all of that without through direct observation and made zero assumptions.

Both HG Tudor and Richard have very valuable information to share. I’ve bee listening to them both for several years. I love Richard for his very down to earth and authentic personality.

@qsita, thanks to your comment, U scolded ahead to 30:00 and the 3 were mentioned from that point after- but that’s a lot to listen to, seems like click bait even though I like Andrew’s posts

Yes, Dr. Honda is an incredible resource. He is actually bound by the ethics of his profession to speak ethically about these types of things. He is a researcher, professor, with years of experience working with many different types of disorders and diagnosing.

Yes, totally!!!

I even have a Dr K tattoo!! 🤣 big love to that wonderful man✌️❤️

You're right about Dr Honda. His compassion is so powerful. (He's made me change my mind about Bullies, and other Mental Disorders....I'm just a bit more understanding towards them) Dr Honda's knowledge will empower.

Much respect for Dr Honda!

@Danny miller to you as well. Ask away

You're not very observant then because she totally looks biracial to me. I will agree I'm also American and had never heard of her either, but I didn't watch that show Suits so why would I have?

What an idiotic thing to say! I mean REALLY! Try opening your eyes and giving your head a good shake

I'm American, and i first saw her and thought she was Latin American. When i heard she was claiming racism because she was black I thought, "what? She's not black!" But i knew nothing about her. Had only seen photos.

‘ enormously charming ‘…yes, to get what they want at any given time. Genuine charm is something the person who has it is generally unaware of, in my opinion.

Look up Sam Vaknin and his info on 'cold empathy'.

They aren't that rare.

tru. I met this narcissist and he would mimic me. Just being near him should have been a crime he was so abusive.

I feel similarly.

most people that i know that have a PhD act as Dr. Peterson does when talking about their own area of expertise. He's quite humble when discussing things outside his own lane, like Canadian-indigenous relations. I don't think he could talk about psychiatry without sounding like a prof. I think we would need to hear him talking about cars or something completely out of his lane to decide if he's a narcissist

Agreed!

JP is smart & knows his facts & is angry the world is so deceived with lies.

@Rose Stewart Just to be clear, Peterson is not a Psychiatrist. He is a Psychologist. A Psychiatrist is a Medical Doctor who also holds a Ph.D. in Psychology. Peterson really does not discuss Psychiatry, not as a profession, nor does he discuss treatment modalities, or medications. He discusses Jung, and pop-Psychology as a self-help guru... They could not be more different to one another really.

Me too.

I know someone like that unfortunately!

Yesssss, I've seen my Ex do that...and the question remains: is he aware?!!!!

Like HG Tudor and his channel here on YT.

I am enjoying hearing this. I noticed jp starting to get power hungry. And his appearance began to look unwell. Maybe rb could be his therapist.

Aw thank you! I’ll show my fiancée that about the good listener !

Yes I have to agree with you, Andrew is a great listener, he’s inspiring!

I love how genuine you are Andrew! You are refreshing and I wish you well and success. You are doing a great job w your interviews. I watch frequently.

That’s how I found Andrew, when he interviewed HG.

Gwyneth Paltrow? Really?

@@inchkademuiter3048 Definitely ;-) I found myself wondering at King Charles.

Top comment right there!

So many videos of Megan. Like dude 😅

I bet she never had it in her resume. Only showed that card when it suited her royal racist narrative.

I absolutely agree. Dr Gannon (Shaun Attwood presentation) had an interesting take on the 'new version' of Peterson. That JP is exhibiting some mental health issues that could be exacerbated by being in the spotlight now. But he (Gannon) reminded us to go with the message not the messenger. His early lectures are brilliant.

@@KatJ3st Shaun Attwood is very unhealthy...I can't believe he is still able to fool people. His own videos that exposed him he's taken down.

Well I assume because he knows bits about one subject, the narcissism comes in when he thinks he's an expert in every subject, when he obviously isn't.

Word salad city

I would take Jordan peterson off this lists. I don't always agree with him.. I think he be happier if he was a narcissis

Andrew’s brilliant and so naturally inquisitive. I love this channel.

Why would you dislike Peterson? How very odd.

​@@lloydwaycott8178 I've noticed that a lot of people don't like Jordan Peterson and it's a personal choice, which is the case for everyone.

@@lloydwaycott8178 the man is very toxic. Very very toxic. Evil in disguise. Again...

@@lloydwaycott8178 Jealousy, or just disliking anyone who is popular/people like. When you ask someone why they dislike Jordan Peterson they'll normally give you an emotional reason -- or they will point to something he said one time and use that to dislike his entire body of work (another emotional reason imo). It's strange, but that's how people end up in ditches in their life and miserable. They reject anyone willing to help for and that's their excuse for not getting out of their ditch or seeking help.

@Danny miller Thanks.😬 Merry Christmas to you too.🎄 And sure.

@Danny Miller looks like @Belinda Paul left the chat!!

Is it a mental illness? I thought it was a personality disorder. Like APD, a common comorbidity.

So much harder wen its a family member, my daughter is narcassist I just avoid her wen she is on a full swing attack... but sometimes she is reasonable and I can enjoy her company because I love her very much..bit I have to watch my ps n qs I can't talk to her about anything really.. just agree and yes n no mayb I can tell her something about me or family..but it has to be something that doesn't require an opinion or a big answer or something.. im mayb bot very good at explaining it... but that's what it's like.. and it doesn't matter what anyone has experienced she experienced worse .. very little to none empathy ... very rigid with her routines or anything around herself... they can't b beaten the only way to win is to surrender and just not get into it

My daughter is late 40s has a grown up family herself is married and have their own home.. if I didn't visit her I wld never see her if I didn't message her she wldnt message me.. ive been robbed from my motherhood thro her narcassism and the trauma that caused it in her ... I keep intouch because I love her dearly and know how to keep harmony going if it starts to become unharmonius I step back for a while

Haha…. It says alot about you when you call Peterson ”brilliant” Perhaps start digging there?

JP is a good man.

JP is intelligent, articulate and charismatic, but he's not brilliant.

@@jesperjee see this is what anyone who doesn't agree with his politics says but outside of that if you have actually read anything he's written or listened to him debate you'd be in denial to say that he isn't brilliant.

@@Samahra01 I have and I will. Have no idea what his politics are. And don’t care.

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Sounds a bit o.c.d

Feminist...? Of course...

@@carlosagarcia9385 eh?

@@dorisday4765 What...? He always bitching about women who hold and stand their ground...

@@carlosagarcia9385 totally disagree. I don’t see that at all in anything I’ve listened/watched

@@dorisday4765 You have the right to disagree....

Peterson is a textbook narcissist.

@@WendyWatersctmm you not liking someone doesn't make them a narcissist.

@@Samahra01 Likewise Samahra you liking Peterson doesn't make him sane.

@@WendyWatersctmm you're right, it doesn't! It's the person's behavior/actions...and even then I'm not a doctor. However it is NOT based on whether or not we like their politics!

Yeah, when Saw the title, suggesting that Jordan Peterson is a narcissist, I thought perhaps it was just mis-written. I DEFINITELY do NOT see any narcissist behavior in him.

Oh yes. The rages, the gaslighting, the mood swings/pouting, the lying, keeping things we said in mind so she could throw it in our faces in a completely unrelated context… my mother terrorized us into submission.

Ditto !

And I accidentally carried the negative patterns through to adulthood (to my own confusion and horror) because I never learned some basic things about being human and wasn't able to replace the old (emotional relational) system.

People become comfortable with discomfort. A guy might have been tortured with physical abuse as a child, but is still far more likely to abuse his children than otherwise.

@@DeCapitanOG perfectly true. Men partners who had been abused by a parent, take it out on their children. Out of fear, children don't react. In their sick minds it becomes like: " okaaaay, so what my own father did to me wasn't that bad. After all my kid is still breathing". It is their twisted way to come to terms with their injuries.

Thanks for saying this. So true!

I agree with you. Richard has helped me.💜

I would like to see the actual evidence for that? His message was very simplistic, rapt up in alot of academic language. He's smart, no dought & has decades of public speaking/ good will hunting vib. But to how much actual benifit he has been to young men isn't clear to me. Though I appreciate his poking the Canadian governments overreach! Perhapes Megan has really helped alot of young women? (I don't think she/her has) but the evidence is equal to that of Jordan helping young men Imho 🕊️

@@lovesees4320 The evidence is literally all over the internet, he has saved men from suicide and their testimony is online. Meghan being a narcissist is not going to help young women. If anything, young girls that emulate her will suffer the negative consequences from having such a terrible role model.

Meghan Markle is inspirational for lots of young Black girls. #Misogynoir #Racism

@@megancolleenmcglynn9887The evidence is literally all over the internet, he has saved men and their testimony is online. Meghan being a narcissist is not going to help young women. If anything, young girls that emulate her will suffer the negative consequences from having such a terrible role model.

@@megancolleenmcglynn9887 ...

He fools a lot of people with his approach. His deep caring is suspect.

@@Blondie77128 He breaks down in tears and kitsch sentimentality when "words fail him". He is a fraud.