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No he gets stronger throughout the show as obviously he likes to train

It just all depends on what Sasuke you use.

I mean if you wanna go there, 8th gate stomps every Sasuke except for rinnegan, which stomps 8th gate. I mean yeah he dies in each instance but he does technically win the fight.

I think hebi sasuke>sasori> deidara in terms of speed and that's why deidara kinda lost that fight

@@momotheone9700 I disagree. Speed wise Hebi Sasuke should be roughly Gaara's level because both outspeed Deidara, but there's an implication that Gaara although is relative to Rasa, Rasa is inferior to the Third Kazekage that Sasori effectively killed. So Sasori should scale higher than Gaara who is roughly equal to Hebi Sasuke.

Idk if i agree with this cuz sasuke has cm2 and kirin which most of the akatsuki can't counter so he's high akatsuki lvl.

@DD Xblade just depends on if you think kisame can absorb kirin. I'll give kisame the benefit of the doubt tho. That is still high akatsuki level.

@@ziggibear1920 Yes it's deadly but Akatsuki won't just stay still. Its like saying that Itachi one shots Hashirama and Madara with Totsuka Blade.

I think hebi sasuke is a weaker fight but EMS is definitely beating his ass. Heck MS nearly one shot kakashi with the susano arrow while being fatigued from fighting danzo and the other kages. Kakashi had to use kamui to survive the susano arrow because it was that fast from a fatigued sasuke that just had several fights. I think if MS sasuke is that strong then I don't think it's hard to argue that EMS sasuke is stronger then gai or that edo itachi can beat both if MS sasuke nearly one shot him, and he is still relative to gai.

@@DBZFANX1000 it wasn’t war arc kakashi that was nearly one shorter, neither soloes here

@@manwithoutmercy Doesn't really matter because sasuke progression of strenght is still way faster and bigger then kakashi's. EMS sasuke is still far superior then war arc kakashi who gai was still kinda relative to wtihout 8 gates. EMS sasuke is fighting side by side with naruto against like people like 10 tails obito who hashirama says is stronger then him. And I'm pretty confident that without 8 gates hashirama can definitely whoop kakashi and gai at the same time.

@@DBZFANX1000 I think it’s more up for debate with EMS whether it be war arc kakashi or 7th gate guy.

@@manwithoutmercy I mean is it? The only fight 7th gate has is beating kisame and yes he does fight the tailed beast and tobi with kakashi but that is mainly with naruto who like later on ends up like powering up everyone. Naruto goes to fight like at least tobi, madara and like alive madara and sasuke also fights alive madara in EMS sure he doesn't win but he is one the people that didn't immediately get stomped out by alive madara. Where as in I feel like alive madara probably stomps out gai if he doesn't go 8 gates. And sure war gai and war arc kakashi are a bit stronger but as I said before Ms sasuke nearly one shot kakashi while fatigued and that was before he had his newer susano that he uses in EMS. I think we can argue that naruto and sasuke have been way past kakashi level in the war I don't think that's really hard to debate where as in wtih Gai the only time the story tells us he is 100% stronger is when he goes 8 gates.

You talking about when madara was off guard and was amped by naruto? Cuz if so it doesn't matter as obviously he's not on that lvl.

@@ziggibear1920 How was Madara offguard and how was Guy amped by Naruto?

@@AlanJia8 guy launched a surprise attack and nine tails chakra cloak.

@@ziggibear1920 How was it a surprise attack when he literally attacked right in front of Madara? He had no such cloak.

@@AlanJia8 the hirudora literally hit the back of his susano...