Nascar need to go back to that idea of if we take the body panels off the race car and a road car they'd be almost identical. Pre aero wars and pre 90s

I have a Buick

S1apSh0es what u see as Buick over there in the 🇺🇸 We over in the 🇬🇧 see them as vauxhalls When i opening the vid and I said “that’s a vauxhall” if u look up Vauxhall Astra they are basically the same models but they rip Buick off the badge and put a vauxhall badge on it

That's Gran Turismo's menu theme? Thought it was Yakuza 0's Real Estate music

only memorable buicks are the GNX and regal

Exactly. Buick was horsepower and speed capped by Chevy for the Grand National dogging the Vette in every measurable stat

So was GMC with their Typhoon and Syclone, and is only around since GM has no one else to fill in the light-medium industrial market segment.

Oh please 🤣 corvette was always gonna be the faster car an if you wanna get down to it, Pontiac was whooping everyone’s ass not just the rest of gm.

Buick had interesting stuff in the 80's outside the turbo Regal/Grand National. The "new" FWD LeSabre had IMO distinctive "aero" styling with compsoite headlights, a cool clamshell hood, thing was you needed to know how to work the option sheet. Order the blackout package, vinyl top delete, alloy wheels with blackwall tires, they looked very modern/european. Google 1988 LeSabre T-type, it looks SO MUCH better than the 95% of Lesabres that came with chrome rockers, wire wheel covers and whitewalls. Leave all that crap for the very similar Park Ave, the LeSabre should have came minimally ornamented to compete with the sleek Taurus.

@@michaelskoomamacher5652 GMCs are pure profit for GM. It's a Silverado with nicer interior. If you combined Silverado and Sierra sales, they'd knock the F-150 off its "best-selling truck" perch decades ago. GM would be stupid to axe GMC. It prints money.

because it wasn't accidental

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@@craigpainter337 I think it was and they just got ahead of it and said it wasn't. Kinda like they tried something else only to get that result and said fuck it run with it 😂😂😂

Damn if only Saab was introduced into nascar lmao

@@chronus9083 Buick is greatest NASCAR manufacture participation of all time

Except for the Grand Nationals. That's the car for your older cousin that is "alternative" despite (or probably because) their aforementioned conservative parents. You catch up with them every once in a while and despite their angsty exterior appearance they are one if the most friendly people you know. I too watch RCR.

Rcr?

@@HeyItsJonny kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNtoq8-YkteZiJc.html

@@MrSourceMan oh duh, love this guy.

I bet a Buick wild cat can out run a Chevelle

Makes me wish the Stage 2 would of make it to production

*GT4's '62 Buick Special laughs in the background*

@@maddoxwca And isn't a 66 Chevelle body a repackaged 64 Skylark?

I have a 67 Skylark. It's beautiful

maddoxwca I thought the stage 2 was an engine package that came in the trunk of the car and it was up to the owner to install them

"Ill be what i wanna do!"

“We sell rebadged Opels, Vauxhalls, and Holdens in the United States, except they’re called Buick’s and they have different names!” “Also Holden’s gone but no one cares because we are obviously better”

Buick is not a good brand reapply and that's sad.

A la Grand National

Considering they sell more cars in China then any other manufacturer... Pretty sure they are known.

“I got the Grand Nat running in the alley outside, now Michael run like you hungry and get your ass in the ride” El-P Yankee and the Brave by Run the Jewels

I got to drive one, a guy I was delivering to had one for sell and let me take it for a spin. Unforgettable, and definitely lives up to its hype

@@MrTaterNubbz I've only had the pleasure of seeing it one time before, while in Queens, NY. In the space of 30 seconds I saw a Merc AMG GT, Supra Mk.4, and a GNX. Needless to say I was hyped wayyyy more by the GNX than anything else.

I would kill for a clean GNX

@@Macccaroni that must drive AMG owners mad

Soviet opinion here in the UK its a Vauxhal

@@jameswilson8820 Opel uses the Vauxhaul badge to trick the British they are buying a local vehicle. In the rest of Europe the Cars are using the Opel brand.

@@flightlinevr6302 yes very true

Yeah I was thinking that looked like a Holden!

Its sold as a Holden, Vauxaul, Opal and buick

Sounds like me

And the guy that the popular kids hated because well, they were actually cool 😔

Very true. Yet still there will be people who ask why we don't get the "good Euro GM" designs, all while forgetting the GTOs, the Chevy SS and the entire Buick line.

iDriveDaily GTO was a Holden and SS was a Holden

@@iDriveDaily The GTO and SS are Aussie cars tho, although there was a Vauxhall version of the GTO

hahaha!

Yeah the Chevy SS is just a Holden Comodore

V8 RWD Camry lol

V8 Camry? Hells yeah, boyz

The reason that the late 70s cars didn't look like the street cars because the street cars shrank.

@@williehill47 Swap an RCF engine into a Camry. Or swap an ISF engine into a Camry. Nah hang on a second, what if we took the engine from a Land Cruiser and......

@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Yessir

A lot of ferrari and lambos too

it embarrassed everything almost as bad as the fire bird

It's not surprising. Buick fielded a V6 turbo Indy car motor.

The FBI had bought a lot of them. Allegedly, agents loved them and many refused to turn them back in for replacement when they aged out.

Even agents love fast cars

I don't understand why someone would be a loyalist to any giant brand. The old days were a wild time, apparently

@@gamemeister27 nah, it didn't ended tho... Check out the wars between Ford, GM and Chrysler (Now Stellantis group) trucks.

@@M4V3R1CK_13 also all the stickers of Calvin pissing on another brand. I hate those

That’s quite cool

Yeah that’s pretty interesting and cool

A_ BigAmountOfConfetti48 that’s cool

That’s pretty damn cool

I've suggested that Slap carry on up I85 to Salisbury to look for any signs of the "track"at Salisbury speedway - _i.e._ the _actual driving surface,_ because the area has been partially developed with a concrete panel factory and some self-storage units, but the location of the track is quite clear - because the grandstand is still there! It was repurposed by building brick curtain walls all the way up to the roof and is, as far as I know, still to this day used as a warehouse - a very odd looking warehouse, with a roof that slopes in one direction! LOL

Bought a LaCrosse 2 months ago and I have no regrets

@@Corvin152 Well are they having the same design as the old Holden/Vauxhall/Opel cars? Because I liked to see them here in Europe although they are way and were way tooooo pricy in company to Mercedes or Audi.

@@Vixen1525 Kind of. They share the same characteristics I'd say. My LaCrosse is like a Opel/Vauxhall Insignia just wider and stretched so to speak

I had a 97 lacrosse with the indestructible 3.8 liter V6 and a very destructible transmission I had to rebuild at only 60k miles

Certified Buick moment, rebuilding my LeSabres motor in a week hehe

Olds had thr dang 442 Cutlass. The toronado was even a hot car

@@WebNstyne The Toronado was probably the only FWD muscle car too

@@skyscalllater cadillacs with the Northstar, lancia thema, and volvo s80s

Yes. Yes Oldsmobile, you are.

Yeah I don't feel as though Buick is out of place or "random" especially as it is the oldest American automobile manufacturer.

Then a little Trigun, some un-remastered Final Fantasy X, and some Pokemon Gen 2. Lost track on the last few.

Yas

Stolen straight from EmpLemon. How original

@@Cody-ch2lc EmpLemon didn't even make that music, so it's not stealing from him. It's "stealing" (if it even is stealing) from Nintendo, Sony, Square Enix, and some oter companies.

I'd want to see them if they stopped selling rebadged Opel's and started making their own cars again.

@@plottwist1733 take the modern Regal X tour wagon, throw a LS in it, put it in formula D.

They had a very good set of cylinder heads for them back then that made them very competitive.

Don't understand how this car was so forgotten

Oldsmobile predates Buick by 11 years.

@@dukecraig2402 Oldsmobile:1897 Ford:1903 Buick:1908

I was looking for the FFX comment 👌

Duke Craig Maybe they meant “oldest currently existing make”?

@@DLBBALL Thats correct.

i could watch EmpLemon talk about any random topic all day.

"If the Universe is so big, then why won't it fight me?"

I agree. The young man need to revisit automotive history. The 70s were a good era for Buick as well

60s and 70s Buicks were something else

My 96 roadmaster is the best

Hmmm yes I look very S T O N K

I heard that and immediately had to check comments to see if anyone else had caught this. S T O N K S

The mr.worldwide of cars

Now that's "global"...!

And sold in Australia as a commodore, that no one likes

most buiks are made in michigan

@@isaaccusack9202 they're rebadged Opels

Timeless means it fits into any period....the GNX doesnt fit that as it screams mid 80s

"...neither timeless classics, or modern masterpieces." What S1ap tried to say, is that Buick just can't find "THAT" essence that makes a brand feel special. They basically tried everything. From doing supercars with the handling of a semi (with their road muscle cars), elegant designs in the 30's~50's and 70's~80's, complete air knifes in the 80's, rebrand some of the best cars GM ever had, and even tried to make some good cars for young people in the 2000's. And i can guarantee you, that even petrolheads confuses some of the best cars ever made from Buick... as their Chevrolet counterparts. Nothing worked for them. As i said, Buick just can't find *"That essence"* .

Regals too. And the lesabre was a modern masterpiece

Would like, but your at 69 so I can’t break the niceness

That is not what timeless means when alplied to automotive desirability. You need to revise your understanding. Timeless actually refers to how the vehicle appeals to people across generations regardless of the change in styles and preferences. In that regard, the GNX is timeless.

I have a 90 lesabre coupe and its a stunner. I've owned a lot of vehicles over the years, from old 350's to LT1 and LS powered vehicles and even a Mercedes CLA AMG but this is my last go fast project and im all in on it. Went back to what I liked from the jump. The short of it is the H body lesabres can be made to look pretty good and custom suspension, brake conversions and an engine swap does wonders for the car (just like any other car).

My first car was a 1994 LeSabre. After a year pulled the 3.8 and put in a 3.8 from a park avenue. Then swapped the blower for one off a Pontiac GTP. It was fun to have a granny boat that boogied.

My first and current car is a 2004 Buick LeSabre and I love it, but cant shake the feel of a young guy like me driving something like a LeSabre and not getting the occasional odd eye look. Only compliments I get are from older folks lmao

Badge engineering.

GM stupidly tried to dominate the American market by supplying all types of cars possible

iirc buick is connected to modern china's history,massively too

I miss my 99 grandprix widetrack 💔

post 80s Buick is the living example of "Power of Bull5hit" they became so random, to the point nobody bothered to end that.

Yep. That is where the sales are. Not here.

interesting biproduct of Chinese culture. it's a big taboo to have anything perceived as equal to or better than what your boss/ employer has. when their economy was booming (& they knew nothing about cars), all bigtime execs & CEOs etc. were buying Cadillacs because again, they knew nothing about cars & in their mind Cadillac was the pinnacle of luxury. all the guys high up, but not at the top of companies were making tons of money too, but effectively weren't allowed to have Cadillacs due to the culture. so what's the next best thing to a Cadillac? a Buick.

Funny enough Chinese and Japanese cultures LOVE American made stuff, especially vehicles. Harley Davidson motorcycles and clothing is HUGE. My girlfriend used to work at a Harley dealer, and she said Foreign exchange and wealthy Asian students from the local college with no clue would come in and spend hundreds; if not thousands on clothing even though they didn’t even own a Harley. Or they would buy a cheaper sportster, even though they didn’t have a driver or motorcycle license.

@@arachnonixon that is a bit mis understanding. GM used Buick as launching brand in China; a very smart strategy to have coustomer dig into the brand history . The first prime minister of modern China Mr. Zhou uses Buick for commute. You will be surprise how many chinese goverment fleet order Buick has over there. And what GM is there sure is GM what is not in North america. GM is flexible, inovated, and listen to coustomer. They make Japanese brand run for their money in China even in the realm of IQS. As a person following both market, I just dont understand how this is one company at the two extreme of coperate spectrum.

Buick is BIG in China. Cuz it's release by GM China.

Damn straight! I highly recommend RCR's take on it!

The GNX is one of the coolest cars ever made

It features heavy in the music video for Ooh La La by Run the Jewels.

Keep it, it'll go up in value.

Me too! Mine's a 93 and I still drive it daily. Super comfy and smooth.

How’s the miles per gallon?

@@sludge8506 Not good at all, maybe around 12-15mpg but it's just one of my 7 cars and 3 motorcycles. I daily drive a Toyota that gets around 38mpg 😁

@@j887276 👍👍👍👍

I feel same about the Lacrosse! I have two of them now.

My favorite NASCAR body style Generation 3 of all time 1988 thru 1993 Buick Regal and 1990 through 1993 Chevrolet Lumina it was perfect

Yes I’ve owned two Veranos and they are great!

GM technically owns each of them, but racing was one of the best marketing strategy. People love winners. These GM brands were all once independent manufactures, so even after GM acquired them, they each had their own leadership group wanting to sell more than the other guy. The Pontiac GTO was created in the late 60s because GM didn't allow John Delorean and Pontiac to build race cars that competed with the other GM race cars, so they built the GTO to be a race car on the street. Conclusion, GM owns these brands, but they don't make decisions for all of them.

People had a lot more brand loyalty to cars in those days. My grandfather on my mother's side only drove Oldsmobiles, for example, while my Dad's Dad was a Buick man. Even though both makes were very similar to each other under the hood, GM kept on making them under different badges--since men like my grandfathers would sooner die before switching brands. Of course, by the 2000's, a lot of those customers DID die out, and foreign automakers had a much larger presence... which meant redundant brands like Olds and Plymouth finally had to go.

I’m guessing because it’s a good idea to diversify your investments, in other words they have multiple brands of different designs of one owner who can increase their chances of winning a championship and more race wins.

@@microcar14 That's half of the story. The other half is that Chevrolet is GM's golden child who gets preferential treatment above the other brands aside from Cadillac. The brand independence largely died when GM killed off most engine programs in 80/81 that weren't Chevy or Cadillac. Buick got to keep their 3.8L and Olds got to work on retrofitting a gasoline engine for diesel fuel, but most GM motors were sacrificed at the altar of cost management. This was, notably, the beginning of the end for Pontiac which had been the muscle brand for several decades. And god forbid you made a car that outpaced the Corvette...thats an immediate death sentence under GM. First turbo luxury coupe, Olds? No one needs to see that. Oooh, a turbo Trans Am, Pontiac? LOL IT NO LONGER EXISTS. Oh, hi, Buick! Thats a nice Grand National you have their....shame if something were to happen to it..... I will go to my grave hating Chevrolet. That they make shamefully cheap junk and wrap it in the flag just to cater to some false commercial patriotism only solidifies that hatred.

@@snappy452 Yes the corvette is the golden child. GM even killed off chevy cars which would outpace the corvette in any way, such as the camaro in the early 2000s. The camaro was getting too close to corvette performance for much cheaper with the same engine (which can be bought and tuned easily to be same or more powerful than the corvette for cheaper than the price of the best corvette). Not only that, the interest in muscle cars was also dying. The ONLY reason the camaro was brought back was cuz Ford bought the mustang back with the retro styling and was selling like hotcakes, and was getting all the profits (This is also the reason the challenger came back.) The camaros of today still use the same engine as the corvette, and just like before, you can buy it and modify it to be more powerful than a corvette for cheaper than buying a corvette, but due to the profits coming in, the camaro is still here. Even some of the factory models of camaros are close to corvette performance. But corvette being the golden child, if the camaros (or sports cars in general) start to have bad sales, the camaro will be killed first.

yeah i agree i lost my 95 century because of the intake gasket rotting up, best car i had next best to oldsmobile.

She knows what a reliable car is......

@@alm4132 its reliable but the oil looks like it got glitterbombed

A 535i for a le saber, that does not seem like a good trade

Roger Dodger Cadillac’s are budget luxury.

@@Zulfburht Um, Mercedes in the shop, BMW in the shop, higher prices but higher parts and labor as well.... I don't find luxury riding through a garage parking lot for a few thousand grand extra tacked on...

Basically like driving a Cadillac for less

@@goodnightcharly5135 And based on JD Power and Consumer Reports, a more reliable Cadillac. Maybe the people in China are onto something about Buicks

They don't have much in common with Cadillac actually. Starting in the late 80s they used one of the most reliable engines Chevy ever made. The good Ole 3800.

I wanna be the very best

@@JNT101 ............I get that and I suddenly feel O..L..D

JNT gotta review them all

They won't bring back the cars, even Chevy is cutting back their car models. Part of that is international sales, where crossovers are more popular. Part of that is apparently that sedans are classed as sports cars by some insurance companies (I know Hyundai Elantras are apparently sports cars in Canada) where crossovers aren't, so they're cheaper to insure. And a big part of that is that the average new-car buyer is the single dumbest person you will ever meet in your life, and the salesperson selling it to them is the second-dumbest. I've worked at a dealership for a good while now, and cars have been steadily getting worse over time because the idiots buying them have been demanding features that make the cars worse.

The Ford Fusion even In Europe isn’t doing that well.

@@noahkoz6873 it's called the Mondeo here, the original name

That does suck their losing the Regal I've always loved the Regal and people just don't know about Buick because they've always stayed in the shadow and when they did come out people know about it

The Buick Century (1982-1996 generation) was a very good car.

The Century from the early-mid 90's is the oldest car on the roads in large numbers up here in Cleveland (a harsh environment for elderly autos, with the road salt and huge potholes in winter). I see them all the time. They're considered practically 'unkillable', and have outlasted many a tougher-looking car or truck from their era. It might've once been "Grandpa's car" , but today the grandkids are driving their kids around in it.

My first car was an 1988 Century custom.

@@dsnodgrass4843 yeah I can't believe how many of the mid nineties Buicks are still driving! Centuries, Park Avenues, Lesabres and occasionally a Roadmaster... and up in salt country too...

My first car was (and still is) a 2000 Century. Old grandma cars are great for finding reasonably nice low-mileage cars for cheap. $2000 for 63,000 miles when I bought it, still going strong today. And it still gets the 20 city/30 highway mileage it did when it was new.

best day of the month so far

I've used a couple of tracks before. They always go well with the old school era of NASCAR. Thankfully, they're pretty lenient with their license.

@@S1apShoes cultured you are my friend. (salutes in weab)

@@S1apShoes Man, weird question, but what's the name lf the track that you played for the 89's part of the vid?

I’m cultured in a different way, but I enjoy a good soundtrack

Same. Pretty sure I was on Besaid for a while there.

Thank god someone else caught it! But if you follow is instagram you would know Slap is a weeb and is probably hoping for us to catch it!

@@jpumbaa1 you mean Kilika? ;)

@@jpumbaa1 Thats deff Macalania Woods I thought lol

I choked up when I heard that track in this video and I was taken back almost 20 years ago. I beat that game in 105 hours and it remains one of THE BEST games I have ever played. We wore out our first PS2 and had to get another. (We also wore out our first original Playstation and before it died it would only work if upside down.)

When ur car breaks down so u buy a second car until it gets fixed

probably the greatest stretch of youtube clip ever made, holy shit

I just wish he'd quit ripping off other people's ideas

@@Cody-ch2lc No chirping without reason, but can you give an example of this? Legitimately asking.

I'd love to see em drop a twin turbo 6.2 is Lacross or something just because.

Not only was the 455 Stage 1 faster, it held the record for highest torque output of a production engine for a staggering 21 years, until the first-gen Dodge Viper released in 1991.

Look up "Old Yeller II" it was a road racing car that was hand built by a guy named Max Balchowsky and his wife Ina in the early 60's that was powered by a 401 Buick Nailhead engine, it beat every high end European sports car thrown at it, every Ferrari, Jaguar, Aston Martin and even the Maserati Birdcage which was supposed to be the most advanced race car in the world at the time, it sent them ALL packing back across the Atlantic with their tails between their legs. Max had a shop in West Hollywood and he's the guy who set up the two Mustang's and three Charger's used in the movie Bullitt along with too many other famous movie cars to list. There's a fantastic video from back in the days of Speed Vision from their series Behind the Headlights here on KZfaq about Max and Old Yeller II, I believe it's under the title "The Max Balchowsky Story", and there's also an online article from Road&Track titled "Old Yeller II, the Junkyard Dog that Beat the World", check both of them out and I'll guarantee you that you won't be disappointed. Max used to allow other drivers to run the car that didn't have a ride so they could get the points, Carroll Shelby, Dan Gurney, Billy Krause and Phil Hill are just some of the famous drivers from back in the day who raced that car, once a reporter ask Krause what the most potent race car was that he'd driven and he replied "Old Yeller II", and Max never trailered the car to the races, he drove it on the street from his shop to the track and then back home after a race. Max Balchowsky is the unsung hero of American road racing.

@@dukecraig2402 Thanks for the info! Awesome history.

Different McLaren then the super car maker

That same motor, a bit detuned, also went into the 89 Turbo Trans-Am.

as Keith mentioned, different Mclaren. They both have ties to Bruce Mclaren, but the Mclaren involved with the GNX has roots in CanAm racing, while the Mclaren in Europe was always the F1 Mclaren. By 1980 they were independent companies.

@@KyleP133 glad someone else knows the ins and outs besides me. Love the car so I naturally watch everything i can on it, jay Leno brung a dude on his car show with a show room floor quality one thats been on the show room floor barely drove at all. Its also not a dig that it isn't the same McLaren because they done the motor right.

Second fastest car

Well it was Mclaren that did all of the work

Ohhh Yahhh, the good old Buick Toad Blaster Estate wagon.

Yep. They are making a pretty penny over there

I believe China is the only reason why the brand still exists.

@@nathanherrold2806 Which is why _they_ get most of the good models and sedans.

@@nathanherrold2806 Yeah without those Chinese sales Buick would've been canned right along with Pontiac.

Yeah. He even mentioned in at the end

Allison's 12 car and Rudd's 26 are among my favorite paint schemes of all-time

Front wheele drive v6 is the basis for better than mustang....said nobody

@@WebNstyne Drive the two cars yourself, then come back to me.

Thats a good question. Since neither Chevy, Buick, nor Ford make cars in their model lineup this year I think either GM will be racing Cadillacs and Ford Lincolns or nascar will go SUV.

It's weird. Consumers don't want sedans anymore but they still want their car to feel and act like a racecar... but we're still not racing SUVs so who knows...

@@hunternegron336 How's desert off-road racing doing? I watched that a lot back in the 80's. Dominated by pickups, but there must be SUVs , too. Would seem like a good thing.

What about a NASCAR with SUVs that would be interesting

Ford and Chevy had to switch for their pony cars for this reason.