Natalie Elphicke took very difficult step to join Labour, says Keir Starmer

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22 күн бұрын

The Labour party should be 'less tribal' and be open to 'reasonably minded people, whichever way they voted in the past', Keir Starmer has said.
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He welcomed Labour’s newest MP, Natalie Elphicke, at a speech in Dover and said her defection was proof that the party was building a broad range of support. Starmer was speaking in Elphicke's constituency and was asked where he would draw the line with rightwing politicians and whether he would welcome Nigel Farage into Labour. He said he wanted to 'bring as many people with us as possible' but added that Farage was 'the last person who would want to join this Labour party'.
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@andywalker9646
@andywalker9646 20 күн бұрын
And I've taken the very difficult step to not vote Labour for the first time in my life.
@dugan6056
@dugan6056 20 күн бұрын
Same, but back when Corbyn was running. It was unbelievable that he got that far.
@gooderspitman8052
@gooderspitman8052 20 күн бұрын
Me too.
@axelbruv
@axelbruv 19 күн бұрын
​@@dugan6056 Agreed. It is unbelievable that Starmer ended up in the shadow cabinet. As Corbyn has said himself, he was too kind.
@adriandavis2772
@adriandavis2772 20 күн бұрын
Don’t buy a used car from this man!
@esamalyanai4090
@esamalyanai4090 20 күн бұрын
For Nat to join Labour says a lot about what Labour has become …
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for proving us right that Labour are the Red Tories.
@longlivetheboleyn1917
@longlivetheboleyn1917 20 күн бұрын
Tories are the Blue Labour
@adrianking8911
@adrianking8911 20 күн бұрын
Er…….sorry to disagree buddy but I think that it may have escaped your attention that there are no real tories, the Tory party went left, the Labour Party went right, and now ? THEY’RE BOTH THE SAME !
@richardmadden8742
@richardmadden8742 20 күн бұрын
How did they go left? They've transferred more wealth and assets to the wealthy than ever before. Inequality is at the highest level in decades.
@CAPTAINSLOG666
@CAPTAINSLOG666 20 күн бұрын
You think Boris and Raab and Gove and Mogg and Truss and Patel and Braverman and Sunak​ are LEFT @@adrianking8911? 😂🤣😂🤣😂
@piper081147
@piper081147 20 күн бұрын
@@adrianking8911 The Uniparty made flesh.
@barbelcatcher
@barbelcatcher 20 күн бұрын
More rubbish joining the Labour party.
@NoBullOxGaming
@NoBullOxGaming 20 күн бұрын
that is what a garbage dump is made for
@wofi784
@wofi784 20 күн бұрын
"We should be less tribal" Tell that to Diane Abbot, Sam Tarry, Jeremy Corbyn, Kate Osamor and the countless hardworking Labour members suspended and attacked for being to the left of Thatcher. I will never vote for the Red Tories.
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 20 күн бұрын
NO. Osamor was suspended not for being to the Left of Thatcher, but for employing her son despite his drug-dealing convictions.
@hairyspud7449
@hairyspud7449 20 күн бұрын
She only jumped ship to stay on the taxpayer gravy train
@user-uv8bv4dm9f
@user-uv8bv4dm9f 20 күн бұрын
No time for the lady but she is not standing for re-election so the gravy train does end at the next election whatever happens.
@davidappleton2208
@davidappleton2208 20 күн бұрын
How can a Tory suddenly become a Socialist? I wouldn’t trust her to tell me the time
@ScottishRoss27
@ScottishRoss27 20 күн бұрын
Because Labour is not socialist its Conservative.
@andrewmaccallum2367
@andrewmaccallum2367 20 күн бұрын
​@@ScottishRoss27 Well said indeed 👍
@levi5073
@levi5073 20 күн бұрын
@@ScottishRoss27 No, they're both centre left/left. They support high taxes, high immigration, wokeism, LBGT, government overreach and globalism. Conservatism rejects all of those things.
@adrianking8911
@adrianking8911 20 күн бұрын
They are all the same in the uniparty system, they have created an illusion where there’s just enough opposition to one another to make us believe that it’s real and that they are different parties with separate policies - which they aren’t !
@hughblack6831
@hughblack6831 20 күн бұрын
Starmer should have told her to go and do one. Just proves he hasn't any scruples either, what a mess.
@IAN-DIXON..
@IAN-DIXON.. 20 күн бұрын
Money and zero morales
@piper081147
@piper081147 20 күн бұрын
"Morals"...
@mididoctors
@mididoctors 20 күн бұрын
starmer is just a tory
@paulcarter4429
@paulcarter4429 20 күн бұрын
100% right,
@adamfull3181
@adamfull3181 20 күн бұрын
Tory in red tie
@levi5073
@levi5073 20 күн бұрын
Yeah they're both the same. Vote Reform UK
@michaelstapelberg7751
@michaelstapelberg7751 20 күн бұрын
@@levi5073 refiorm is far right tory!! are you clueless or deliberately misleading cos reform could only win with lies and contricks
@levi5073
@levi5073 20 күн бұрын
@@michaelstapelberg7751 They're not "far right". They're conservative libertarians. They want less government power. The far right wants more state power. Learn what words mean.
@PeterPete
@PeterPete 20 күн бұрын
Elphicke is following the money, she's only in it for herself!!!
@quintuscrinis8032
@quintuscrinis8032 20 күн бұрын
As are all the Labservatives. Time for a 3rd party to win.
@CAPTAINSLOG666
@CAPTAINSLOG666 20 күн бұрын
​@@quintuscrinis8032yeah but who? Monster Raving Loonies or Reform? All Independents would shake things up!
@quintuscrinis8032
@quintuscrinis8032 20 күн бұрын
@CaptainSLog995 I would say preference a coalition, that was the best we have had in decades so Liberals, Greens and probably a few Loonies as well. Or a selection of independents.
@SirChesterBellington
@SirChesterBellington 20 күн бұрын
Couldn't be more symbolic of how little this man stands for. Since he got into power, his policy has been beating the Tories, and I think when you lack any charisma to such an abysmal degree as he does, you'll take whatever you can get, even if it is a Tory MP who has a voting record which is miles away from labour. She could've left that party at any point over the past few years, yet she chose right now when the ship was about to sink and it didn't even matter. I'm feeling a sense of apathy like never before at the moment. The Tories are the weakest they've been for a long long time, and it could've been perfect, yet we are left with this soulless, boring human.
@gooderspitman8052
@gooderspitman8052 20 күн бұрын
Agreed
@bendaniel2271
@bendaniel2271 20 күн бұрын
The rat thought long and hard about fleeing the sinking ship.
@philipbrackpool-bk1bm
@philipbrackpool-bk1bm 20 күн бұрын
Starmer must be desperate, she’s just kicking at sunak.
@patrickburns574
@patrickburns574 20 күн бұрын
I assume Diane and Jeremy are back in then? No? Thought not, hypocrite.
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 19 күн бұрын
Thank goodness those two aren't back.
@patrickburns574
@patrickburns574 19 күн бұрын
@@lochnessmunster1189 aye, proper labour wronguns lol. Elphick in, socialists out.
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 19 күн бұрын
@@patrickburns574 I think Labour should look at how Socialism worked (or rather, didn't work) in the 20th century and re-evaluate their position. Corbyn never got it.
@patrickburns574
@patrickburns574 19 күн бұрын
@@lochnessmunster1189 exactly what starmer is doing
@paulineinnes5319
@paulineinnes5319 20 күн бұрын
Never ever will I vote for any of the current parties,they don’t work for us.
@adriftinaboat3452
@adriftinaboat3452 20 күн бұрын
Abbott and Corbyn kicked out and this shyster welcomed-dawn is the new dusk
@Ellis1Sandy
@Ellis1Sandy 20 күн бұрын
The only MPs switch parties is because they fear of losing their seat. As a person from the Caribbean I could never vote the Labour party.
@patrickburns574
@patrickburns574 20 күн бұрын
You do know that many Tories and their voters don't actually like people from overseas don't you? As long as I breathe I'll never vote tory.
@bertieclayton4865
@bertieclayton4865 20 күн бұрын
tbf she isn't standing for election next year so this isn't really the case. Its more for her a desperate attention grab + perhaps some sort of advisory role in the civil service under Labour and for keir its meant to make the tories look bad. Thats Their logic Imo
@bwilliamson3887
@bwilliamson3887 20 күн бұрын
​@patrickburns574 Same could be said for Labour.
@patrickburns574
@patrickburns574 20 күн бұрын
@@bwilliamson3887 certainly not in my experience and the circles I keep
@bwilliamson3887
@bwilliamson3887 20 күн бұрын
@@patrickburns574 Old Labour
@mick1583
@mick1583 20 күн бұрын
How is she still an MP. She didn't get elected as a Labour MP.
@angurmiah3212
@angurmiah3212 20 күн бұрын
She leave old Tory join in new Tory party
@kevinmcelhone7905
@kevinmcelhone7905 20 күн бұрын
Rank Tory now Labour just shows they are all the same.
@user-wq6sz7vt3w
@user-wq6sz7vt3w 20 күн бұрын
One of Labour's new weapons of mass dissatisfaction!
@S1Rossco
@S1Rossco 20 күн бұрын
Only Captain Rodney Hindsight could make such a mess of poaching someone from the opposition. 😂
@matthewsarson6934
@matthewsarson6934 20 күн бұрын
Once again it's us thats crazy for thinking he did the wrong thing. 🙄 Didn't he promise to listen to people more lol
@commonsense3222
@commonsense3222 20 күн бұрын
after watching the fiasco in Sunderland maybe the Labour party need to clean out thier grass roots local councils as well as sort out their policies for the next government
@CaroleNowell
@CaroleNowell 20 күн бұрын
I hate him with a complete passion. I’ve always been taught to love thy neighbour. Well if he was my neighbour, I’d move. Can’t afford to move to another country, mores the pity, but I can’t bear the complete bs that comes out of his mouth. If he were in a different occupation, I certainly wouldn’t buy from him. 🤬💩🤬
@carltaylor6452
@carltaylor6452 20 күн бұрын
Er, she wants a career and could see which way the wind is blowing. Not a difficult step at all, I imagine. 😅
@user-uv8bv4dm9f
@user-uv8bv4dm9f 20 күн бұрын
No career aspirations involved- she is not standing for re-election.
@CTTTTT
@CTTTTT 20 күн бұрын
She’s typical of the modern political class, their loyalties are to no one but themselves
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 20 күн бұрын
I despise the Tories
@MB01157
@MB01157 20 күн бұрын
Biggest criminal organisation going
@tatata1543
@tatata1543 20 күн бұрын
Which ones, red or blue?
@MB01157
@MB01157 20 күн бұрын
@tatata1543 normally I say both but this government are horrific
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 20 күн бұрын
I despise all the mainstream parties.
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 20 күн бұрын
@@MB01157 What was the level of annual borrowing when Blair got in, and the level of borrowing just before the banking bail-out?
@Wolfways
@Wolfways 20 күн бұрын
Not that difficult. Both parties are practically the same.
@VincentComet
@VincentComet 20 күн бұрын
No she just jumped ship before it sank , Looking after No 1 herself
@marksmall8692
@marksmall8692 20 күн бұрын
Border Security under Labour, is Open Borders. Oddly, similar under the Tories
@enochpowel3030
@enochpowel3030 20 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter who you vote for the agenda is the same.
@strangetrip837
@strangetrip837 20 күн бұрын
Over wealthy, over rated and over moisturised, Starmer could defect to the Tories, oh, wait a minute…
@poshgentleman559
@poshgentleman559 20 күн бұрын
I don,t think it was difficult lol....she was probably due to lose her seat at the GE.
@matt69nice
@matt69nice 20 күн бұрын
The fact that it was difficult for her doesn't excuse you letting her into the party. Have some principles man.
@The_Amazing_Funktopuss
@The_Amazing_Funktopuss 20 күн бұрын
Why would he worry about people crossing anything?
@barrybarry6592
@barrybarry6592 20 күн бұрын
Not brave but not wishing to be left on the dole. She is not a bit of use to anyone not least the Labour party
@raymondrichards4888
@raymondrichards4888 20 күн бұрын
Anyone that votes Conservative or Labour needs their head examined in my view because I support Democracy and independence. Labour will take us back into the EU so fast that we will get stretch marks. The Conservatives will give away to Europe more and more of our infrastructure impoverishing us more and more. The only way forward that I can see is to vote for an untainted by association with the EU party such as "Reform UK" and independents.
@Mattsavage69
@Mattsavage69 20 күн бұрын
She is not standing anymore, so this is more pantomime.
@raskinman
@raskinman 20 күн бұрын
Talking about showing your true (blue) colours 😂
@raycollins7511
@raycollins7511 20 күн бұрын
I think this is Starmers’ Neil Kinnock moment….
@glenntoplis8872
@glenntoplis8872 20 күн бұрын
There is no party to vote for who has the ordinary law abiding person at heart, Labour and cons are a disgrace, and the rest are abysmal too, who is actually running this country??
@dugan6056
@dugan6056 20 күн бұрын
Crossing over thinking Labour would solve the border crisis indicates she didn't think at all.
@songscoops4205
@songscoops4205 20 күн бұрын
Would he take someone who took funding from someone who dumps industrial waste
@barstoolpreacher7851
@barstoolpreacher7851 19 күн бұрын
He's admitting wants to change Britain not fir the better it will be unrecognisable in a decade or two
@user-jn2gc8fk6q
@user-jn2gc8fk6q 20 күн бұрын
RATS LEAVING A SINKING SHIP 🚢 WORST KIND OF TURNCOAT
@jimg2850
@jimg2850 20 күн бұрын
So yes. Anyone is welcome. Elphicke could have been just left as an independent with no party which would have made her point but not damaged Labour!
@InSoloDeo
@InSoloDeo 20 күн бұрын
Rubbish joining the rubbish bin 🗑️ nothing clever here!
@eyeballpaul294
@eyeballpaul294 20 күн бұрын
90 grand a year was the reason, Vote your local Independent.
@somebloke2238
@somebloke2238 20 күн бұрын
Well he's done his absolute best to make that jump easier for her, moving so far right
@JasonBebopp343
@JasonBebopp343 20 күн бұрын
As a Labour voter, this guy is not the one
@earnestequivocation6250
@earnestequivocation6250 20 күн бұрын
And Labour should have taken the very easy decision to reject the lightweight opportunist so typical of post 2019 BrexitClown Party.
@labouraredangerous
@labouraredangerous 20 күн бұрын
Labour will be the final nail in the coffin for Britain
@melbury7374
@melbury7374 20 күн бұрын
These politicians aren't strong enough to make the tough decisions they are all motivated my their own agenda
@tasherratt
@tasherratt 20 күн бұрын
Not that big a change, the difference between the parties is at an all time low. Starmer has dragged the party from the centre to the right of Thatcher in the last 4 years to the point you may as well vote Conservative as why vote for the lesser of two evils? Go all out.
@alunevans380
@alunevans380 20 күн бұрын
All these English cities today are now minority white indigenous British. London in 1961 had a 98% White population today thats dropped to just 35% White British Birmingham in 1951 had a 99% White population today thats dropped to just 40% Manchester in 1961 had a 98% White population today it's dropped to just 47% White British Leicester in 1961 had a 98% White population today it's just 40% white with a majority 44% Asian population Bradford in 1971 had a 95% white population today it's dropped to just 50% Luton in 1961 had a 96% White population today it's dropped to just 32% Liverpool in 2009 had a 91% white population today thats just 70% and decreasing more at an alarming rate.
@kr050
@kr050 20 күн бұрын
Poor Elphike as a hard right Conservative she is probably too lefty for the latest edition of Labour
@user-bo8ux3nu9i
@user-bo8ux3nu9i 20 күн бұрын
never trust a solictor
@gavinstephenson8771
@gavinstephenson8771 20 күн бұрын
Nobody should be able to change parties during a governments time, they were voted by a certain group with their policies not for another team with totally different agenda…must go back to the publics vote….🤬
@seanoconnor8843
@seanoconnor8843 20 күн бұрын
Quite honestly, and I know how it seems, but I think we have delay the election. This situation is not right. I think emergency legislation needs to correct this before we vote
@KOPITE8989
@KOPITE8989 19 күн бұрын
If you vote Conservative or labour then you are part of the problem. Unfortunately no party represents the working class. We need complete reform
@briangriffin2905
@briangriffin2905 20 күн бұрын
So she left one tory party for another tory party.
@seanoconnor8843
@seanoconnor8843 20 күн бұрын
Whatever your views on immigrants, surely ordinary decent people should have a choice at a general election? Starmer has dragged far right elements, past normal Torys like Gove, and into the main centre left party in the UK? Who do I vote for now?
@CAPTAINSLOG666
@CAPTAINSLOG666 20 күн бұрын
Vote Independent across the board - that'll shake things up. Fork party politics!
@peterholmes3011
@peterholmes3011 20 күн бұрын
Neither has any shame. Disgraceful.
@aldean4361
@aldean4361 20 күн бұрын
where have these aliens from outer conservia buried the real labour party.
@billweaver6092
@billweaver6092 19 күн бұрын
Why does this bloke remind me of a bankrupt undertaker?
@cliver7596
@cliver7596 20 күн бұрын
This guys going to be exactly the same as the Tories. All waffle whilst bleeding the life out of the Country for his pals.
@Danders1657
@Danders1657 20 күн бұрын
Starmer will not stop the boats in his beloved WEF won't let him.
@RSB299
@RSB299 20 күн бұрын
She just anticipates the demise of the Tory party and hopes she get a ministerial post with Starmer, that is all.
@kr050
@kr050 20 күн бұрын
She isn't standing at the next election
@user-uv8bv4dm9f
@user-uv8bv4dm9f 20 күн бұрын
Unlikely as she is not standing for re-election.
@msnaheed6724
@msnaheed6724 20 күн бұрын
Well when you know the party your in is going down the drain of course your going to save your wages by defecting
@mikefox6764
@mikefox6764 20 күн бұрын
This guy couldn't tell the truth if he tried. Open borders Starmer.
@Jones-xx2gc
@Jones-xx2gc 20 күн бұрын
Did she.
@johncollins3391
@johncollins3391 20 күн бұрын
Reform yes how she come to the conclusion to join labour the mind boggles.
@ascgazz7347
@ascgazz7347 23 сағат бұрын
No point having a mind if you’re not going to change it occasionally. Were you born a Tory?
@marymorgan1498
@marymorgan1498 20 күн бұрын
Is he thinking about loosing the Dover seat at the election
@stuartwray6175
@stuartwray6175 20 күн бұрын
Let loose?
@bertieclayton4865
@bertieclayton4865 20 күн бұрын
"reasonably minded" -> defending her convicted of SA husband and voting against abortion. Such a reasonable person...
@fintamaria2429
@fintamaria2429 20 күн бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@davidsmeath4556
@davidsmeath4556 20 күн бұрын
Embarrassing and unnecessary decision.
@psychonaut689
@psychonaut689 20 күн бұрын
"Let's get Britain's future back" is a really poor slogan. Reminiscent of "take back control" and even "we need to go back to the future". Starmer is going to be Tory-lite. "I can't believe he's not Tory". We need a new vision. Get rid of first past the post, get rid of croneys, get rid of the plutocrats.
@sundayboss3062
@sundayboss3062 20 күн бұрын
Keir day dreaming of becoming a Prime minister. Oh boy.
@michaeledmondson5100
@michaeledmondson5100 20 күн бұрын
Expel starmer from the "Labour" party because he is a Tory.
@maureenball6733
@maureenball6733 20 күн бұрын
Does Starmer know what a woman is yet?
@user-ev2qk7gl7b
@user-ev2qk7gl7b 20 күн бұрын
She bounced , following the money ,, me me me..
@nickfisher427
@nickfisher427 20 күн бұрын
I suppose it is not possible to be a politician and not be corrupt!
@TomTom-gh1nf
@TomTom-gh1nf 20 күн бұрын
We are doomed with this Tory Labour Party 😢
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 20 күн бұрын
We'd be doomed with a Socialist Labour party, even more.
@TomTom-gh1nf
@TomTom-gh1nf 20 күн бұрын
@@lochnessmunster1189 You sound like Starmer 😁
@lochnessmunster1189
@lochnessmunster1189 20 күн бұрын
@@TomTom-gh1nf Well, I sound like someone who's studies the results of Socialism, in the UK and abroad.
@markwarren1803
@markwarren1803 19 күн бұрын
Dosnt matter who goes where they all rats it’s no surprise is it.
@therocketboost
@therocketboost 20 күн бұрын
Keir Starmer, wasteman kid starver
@michaeljones4379
@michaeljones4379 19 күн бұрын
Don’t vote for Starmer
@marko-ze4nl
@marko-ze4nl 20 күн бұрын
Come on Labour, do the decent thing and deselect her for the next election; how could anybody vote for her after this.
@kr050
@kr050 20 күн бұрын
She isn't standing at the next election. It's just a PR stunt that has backfired on Keir
@marko-ze4nl
@marko-ze4nl 20 күн бұрын
@@kr050how am I not surprised
@user-uv8bv4dm9f
@user-uv8bv4dm9f 20 күн бұрын
No de selection required- she is not standing at the next election.
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 20 күн бұрын
She's not standing at the next election. What she's after is some juicy sinecure like head of a qango or regulatory body, maybe even a seat in the House of Lords.
@kola100
@kola100 20 күн бұрын
All the conservatives who think they’re out of a job , just pop across … well they just lost my vote - I will go for reform- otherwise it’s going to be same old same old ….
@tatata1543
@tatata1543 20 күн бұрын
Anderson “popped across” to reform but I guess that’s different, right?
@MrAa1192
@MrAa1192 20 күн бұрын
As if its going to make any difference who crosses over to where ..someone in the labour have a magic wand?
@SelinaJames
@SelinaJames 20 күн бұрын
Yeah my money is on Nathile
@pipins3616
@pipins3616 19 күн бұрын
He is a plant
@cunningpunt
@cunningpunt 20 күн бұрын
Well, I guess I can choose what Thatcherite party I want to vote for, *New new* Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem. Overton window as narrow as an arrowslit. 🎵Meet the new boss, same as the old boss🎵.
@paulgibbons2320
@paulgibbons2320 20 күн бұрын
It's your destiny, Luke. Together, we can overthrow the Emperor and rule as father and son. The Emperor has foreseen it. 😂 You don't know the power of the datkside 😂
@jonathanalcover1539
@jonathanalcover1539 19 күн бұрын
backstabbing turncoat get lost
@Scotsman1969
@Scotsman1969 20 күн бұрын
The Nu Tories.
@cazrealist1
@cazrealist1 19 күн бұрын
😂😅😂😅 what ! Back to the 6th century
@paulpowis5914
@paulpowis5914 20 күн бұрын
What a wet lettuce
it takes two to tango 💃🏻🕺🏻
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