But youtube said not more than 10 mins, when i put a video about 12 mins, it says rejected.

You can also search "coverageforall" in google, and click the top link.

If "death panels" are in the bill, would that be acceptable? Would the other parts of the bill make it passable as a product? If my neighbor asks me again about this I need sometrhing to tell him.

Amen. Nov 2006 my dad was diagnosed w/Bone Cancer he had Blue cross. His chemo treatment wasn't approved till Feb 2007. Once on treratment Blue Cross stopped his coverage for 2 weeks & my dad got a blood infection & it cost us thousands to hospitalize him. He finally got his coverage back. We paid 376 a month & once the year was over the insurance people said his coverage w/them would be denied & he would need to switch to HIPPO for like $500 a month but my dad died before that occured.

I'm big on phone banking for OFA but my call options have been taken away from me except for my hometown which is a Republican town.Has everyone's options been reduced to their hometown only?

I am a senior citizen and enjoy the benefits of medicare and social security. I am happy with my health care provider and hope that changes in our health care will allow me to stay where I am. I think fear of the unknown is what is causing so much negativity from some of the people in townhall meetings. I think it would help if we could have major highlights of the plan and be able to respond to those plans via e-mail, phone, letters. This must be a thoughtful plan so it will not fail.

how can you put a video on youtube more than 10 mins?

What do you mean by "margins"?

I don't live in America. In my country we have universal health care, and it is wonderful. I cannot imagine living in a place without it. It would be awful and scary. The current American system seems very selfish-- how can someone just not care about whether or not their neighbors have health insurance? It seems that lots of people care about what extending health insurance to others will cost them personally. I think everyone should care about the health and well-being of those around them.

Also you can still earn money even as you collect SS and Medicare. The system is not a savings program, but a transfer payments program.

what would it take for the voters to get it on a ballot? signatures becouse i dont think there would be a shortage of those!

In this video, the "death panels" idea was addressed and he started to quote the text of the bill, but then stopped. Why?

Don't let them get you down. I believe in you and everything that you are doing. Nobody should have to suffer for lack of funds. I encourage everyone at home to use your representation in the capital. You elected them to speak for you. Make them work for their jobs. Don't adjust your lives to their choices. Power to the people!

Who were you responding to? I gave a response to Bernard...I don't think you are reading the forums in "see all" mode.

OMFG ITS LIVE RIGHT NOW!

arusky2001 What you are not hearing is what the standards are and what the focus areas are for theses rankings. The main areas are support for government health programs, government development of health policies, efforts related to determinants of health, such as food safety and nutrition. IN OTHER WORDS EACH COUNTRY IS RANK ON HOW MUCH THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDES FOR THE COUNTRY OR HOW SOCIALIZED MEDICAL CARE IS IN EACH COUNTRY.

SocialDeviant77 I will take that as a badge of honor!

Where is the Captions :(

I looked in google Finance, and the CEO makes 8.08 Million a year, now, I will repeat (Hmm I wonder why I repeat?) a quote from factcheck: "these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S. In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that. CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."

nice work Doc ;-)

Limited government" is a key term in the American philosophy. Its great significance is indicated by describing the purpose of limiting government's power in these words: Limited for Liberty. This summarizes what is meant by the statement in the Declaration of Independence about governments being limited in power "to secure these rights"--to make and keep them ever secure.

One thing though, In California now, You can choose BlueShield, and I think Health Net as a medicaid provider, so there is some "Third Way" politics there.

Support HR 676 single payer, NO insurance/not for profit, universal health care plan , write obama and get him to support this! This is by far the best idea yet. Dennis K has been on top of this for years now!

dude there's lots of videos on youtube over 20 mins where have you been? lol

I AM LOOKING LISTENING

I gotta look into it. I never get my info from only one source....well, for common sense reasons. I would advise you to look at academic papers on the subject....but so many people don't. There also has to be a "study of studies" that aggregates the majority of them.

Full disclosure: my guess was off by a few years; Argentina and the Netherlands took until 1814. My mistake!

Rayhid, if you want increased competition, then allow for interstate insurance coverage. That does not cost the taxpayers anything and will help reduce premiums. Medicare premiums are expected to increase as well, the public option in no panacea but is a 1-way trip that cannot be undone.

No bad comments? No new comments in 8 years?

Do you allow comments on this thing ?

It's interesting how we Americans have become so proud and highly myopic when it comes to our health care system. How many have lived in a country with true socialized medicine? I lived in a country with socialized medicine for 8 years and am sad to say that the US system is indeed broken. The care my family received outside the US was comparable to what were accustomed to while we lived in the US. The cost for the comparable care is more than 10x higher in the US. It's sad...

WANT TO LISTEN WANT SEE PLEASE

Studied Econ as a degree...but don't get excited, real useful econ is very simple, only it is very granular.

At the end of the day, you are generally right, there are too many credit cards! But I don't want to see them completely go away...for example businesses use them for short term expenses. Example: You gotta pay $10,000 bucks for goods now you will sell in a month, and you need to use credit now. Cash flow has timing problems.

i live in hawaii to and my dad played against u in high school he played for damian

Currently the US is ranked 46th in the world when it comes to babies surviving childbirth. The countries holding spots 1-45 all have universal healthcare. Including Israel which ranks 18th.

I am one of those "crazy Conservatives," and did you notice the town hall meeting said "Health (insurance) reform?"

The tragedy is that the real issues aren't being discussed, like over insurance and inflated prices due to employee driven healthcare!

i love how u have yet to have a come back to everything else ive said....because u can u know im right, so this convo is ovvvaaaaa;)

As a final word: There is not a politician alive in this country that isn't influenced by a pharmaceutical company or an insurance company. By either receiving funding directly, or by partisan politics, every single one of them is pressured to lean one way or the other on this bill. It is the nature of the political system that the people of this country allowed to exist. It is time we took back the reigns and return control to it's rightful owners, the citizens of this country.

Pretty slick how I arrived at this video by being automatically directed to it after viewing John Stossel's 20/20 piece on healthcare. If the message you're conveying here had merit to stand on its own, you wouldn't have to force people to this video link, they could find it on their own by surfing youtube. Consider yourself reported to youtube.

Healthcare reform I did. but I apologize the final line still on hold into their massive hands. I feel bad and hurts. Thank you everybody! I will.....

Thank you President Obama for trying so hard to do what we asked you to do! I admire your effort and you have my full support.

Has anyone here read the part about the panel of doctors that decide if grandma stays alive? Any OFA out there that can answer this?

The best offense against lies is the truth....Sad thing is too many people dismiss the truth because they are comfortable believing the lies. There are those who live and thrive on fear. The rest of us just need to keep on repeating the truth and hopefully the truth will prevail. My heath insurance plan has risen in cost every year for the past 8 years (with current employer). If nothing is done, I believe that the trend will continue and I will keep on paying more and more. We need change.

Oh boy here come all the emails! LOL I wish i had the time to reply to all of them you Big Government Liberals are Awesome! Keep them coming!

Did you have coverage through an employer?

Also, Comparing Health Insurance to Car Insurance is like comparing apples and oranges -- You don't have to drive... so that makes car insurance an option.

Correct information is key!

The public option does not have to turn a profit. They get paid directly from the government, not from sales or services provided. American Medical Association limits doctors, medical schools and hospitals. State and federal mandates take 20-50% of your insurance payments. Decreasing current regulations will lower cost, and by passing legislation that offers incentives to companies that DON'T deny coverage to people with preexisting conditions, we will all get more coverage at a lower price.

It is very strage he dances around the "death panels" issue. On the July 22, 2009 tele-press conference, 5 times the call for health care reform featured the establishment of "an independent board of doctors and health care experts" to make the life-and-death decisions of what care to provide ....based on cost-effectiveness criteria.

I think the main problem faced here is that the most citizens of the country do not understand the contents and purpose of this health care reform bill. Because of certain parties, the people probably only focus on what is 10% of the bill rather than look at the bill as a whole. There should be a plan to educate the public on what this bill is all about. Campaign for it, like how college/ uni kids do when they spread their ideas. We need to EDUCATE the people, make them UNDERSTAND.

He said in this video that you can be exempt from insurance under certain circumstances...

I'll parrot once again: The central problem with Health insurance in the US: 1) Employee driven healthcare subsidized with pre tax dollars and a partial or full employee "contribution. 2) This has led to a disconnect between consumer and health goods and have then inflated prices. There is too much insurance among the people who have it, and medical goods makers and doctors take advantage of it!

We're actually rated #37.. even worse.. but you got the point across right.. good job

ahhh, even though I think you are overdoing it, there are others in the forum that make you fervor worth it in spite of my decision of not going there!

I agree on one major issue with The bill in the Senate, stopping denying coverage for pre-existing conditions. And that is where a necessary subsidy must occur. But you are still mistaking healthcare for health insurance.

but you can't argue with me, because I actually have some understanding about how insurance works!

What A Fantastic Human Being........

Don't back down; you have our support.

Lemme explain for like the 10th time. Employer driven health insurance is subsidized with pre-tax dollars and an employer contribution. This has led to overinsurance that the worker does not feel. So a $15 copay for a $400 dollar copay is due to the fact big pharma knows of the subsidy that the patient can't feel! True, a majority state insurance system will control, and in fact deflate these costs to where our medical innovation will go elsewhere.

It is not "HEALTHCARE REFORM!" It's health insurance reform! If you want to read an excellent article on a great "reform" (it's not over 1000 pages). Google "Yes, we can pay for it - here's how"

Date: 1837 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

Kinda nerdy, yes, (I mean it's on youtube). But all I want to do is tell people the truth and inform them, and I thing this forum is a good outlet.

So inspiring!!!

....you're doing it again!

This is in keeping with the primary purpose for which the people organize governments: to make and keep these unalienable rights secure and most beneficial to themselves and to Posterity--time without end.

You have the wrong thread. I don't even know what question you are asking....and no I don't answer questions for Obama, I just try and put my words out there.

ladylordess That just makes to much sence!

Articulate, accurate, and well-sourced. You have no place in professional politics. ;)

For example Advair is not like 360 bucks because it costs that much! It is because the majority of people on insurance get it subsidized through their employer, and GlaxoSmithKline is taking advantage of the overinsurance due to the fact the consumer doesn't feel the cost! Kaiser copay for CA workers is 15 bucks!

Vaneephi, it's a bit of a stretch to say that the founders "knew would have to be eliminated." They codified the legitimacy of slaves in the Constitution (which, i'm sure you know, was written after the Declaration) stating that each slave would be counted as 3/5 of one person. Even Abraham Lincoln, who galvanized the abolition of slavery, was deeply conflicted: "If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it."

Well. This is the first time I and the rest of the world are envious of americans having the greatest president. You can keep or on occasion imprison the rest of em. But this guy is incredible. He's like Phelps. Being just as good as this guy will be horribly difficult for whatever poor sod will succeed him.

It's stunning that so many republicans could have such vitriolic reactions to this very logical and well thought through argument for reform. Have conservatives turned their backs on their fellow man so thoroughly that they can step over the sick and fallen in the street and still sleep at night? Every citizen deserves to be treated with respect and this reform is the biggest step we can make toward that goal. I don't throw my family to the wolves; and if you're an American, you're family.

Don't you know that there are 29 states with high risk pools on top of medicaid and medicare, but we can't combine them because the two gov programs are third rails like social security!

If your state has a high risk pool, you should search it! Also, I hope to God you heard about that COBRA subsidy a while back??

Oh, for the love of God, Jesus! Seriously! I know my shit about insurance!

Most people in America support Health care reform!

I am trying to help him! Do you know the central problem with health insurance in the US? Read my previous posts!

Another issue is overinsurance due to employee driven healthcare. It is subsidized with pre-tax dollars and a contribution by the job. Medical companies know this and inflate prices since consumers can't feel the costs of a $400 drug they paid with a $15 copay.....the $400 is due to the fact the consumer is overinsured and doesn't feel the cost.

🙂thank you

It is also an excellent article, Mackey's. It makes too much sense, is short, and therefore doesn't have a chance in hell passing that bubble called the beltway!!

If insurance was appropriately administrated through market forces and regulated for helping high risk people, the costs would have come down. I own stocks, and I always get pissed when the board does stuff in THEIR favor....like lowering the quorum for voting in 3M shares...you gotta know these things!!

will somebody tell me what changed still at war and still have patriot act

I'm black and have a job as an Electrical Engineer also, I'm a Project Manager. dude, I don't care if we don't agree but, lets have some repect! That's what's great about our country the right to disagree many don't have this right. Let show so class, respect and attack the issues not the people. Have a good day man! lol

I agree that full socialization is an idea that would never work in the US. It's not the best idea, IMHO, in any country. I also agree that providing total control to any one group is an even worse idea. My statement on socialized medicine was offered to let people know that life as we know it will not end if / when the current system is changed. There are other option out there that do work very well and provide people the care they need.

did you even read my reply?

The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object. - Thomas Jefferson

Don't try to inform Klaimjumper on France's health care.. just because you live in France.. He knows better.. he listens to Limbaugh.. Hannity and Fox.. LOL Glad your hear to post some intelligent info.. Thanks

Your right..

For example....if I sold stock insurance tommorrow (I will cover 70% of your loss for...I dunno like 80 bucks a month) The stock market would be so screwed up because of OVER-insurance, that is a risk that shouldn't be insured. Health insurance is in a similar problem.

I'd like a large order a public option with my heath reform bill, please.

My view of government is what the country was founded on, a REPUBLIC. It means that people can have their own opinions, lifestyles, etc... within reason. It means that PEOPLE themselves make the difference, not some representative who claims to have similar opinions, yet is bought off. Obama is just the opposite of how I feel government should be. Government should be small and not have as much influence as it does.

The silence is deafening i think some hard facts have been said here in last hour!

me, too! it's that important. :-D cheers!

LustyHeroine I agree with that. There are so many Americans unable to pay their health care debts because of greedy insurance companies. When it comes to health care, it should be "WE" instead of "ME". Too many insurance companies are stuffing their pockets of the American people's money instead of giving back to them. No one should have to go without health care insurance. If something is not done about the current health care system, future generations will suffer. That is not right.

dicksweat1 Damn your going to get someone in trouble saying that!

True health care reform should start with (i) tort reform and/or no fault malpractice; (ii) Mandate the same treatment (tax and group pricing) for all individuals or corporations; (iii) Mandate no exclusions for pre-existing conditions; (iv) Allow interstate competition for health insurance; (v) test market pay-for-performance-outcome reimbursements; (vi) allow the purchase of drugs from outside the US that meet safety standards; and (vii) address the issues surrounding Medicare, the VA and IHS.

Read my earlier comments on the central problem with US health insurance. I gather you don't know.

"We do not have the money to cover everyone." Yes, we do. We are already spending it on the private industry without the benefit of coverage or investment in the health care system. That is, it mostly makes a handful of people extremely rich while people. The money is there, it needs to be shifted to a social program (Medicare) rather than continuing to be wasted on making a few people very rich.