Classic; I’ve played with many old boys like that and I’m almost sixty myself and I now adhere to the same principles

That's the Grail right there. Hope it doesn't take me until I'm 90 to embrace it though (I'm a stubborn bugger).

Sounds like my Grand Uncle 😅🤭 He was one of those who was said to shoot his age (80) on a regular basis

That is awesome, I hope to be like him one day.

Love this & glad it was the top comment for me to see it! Thanks for sharing, bud. cheers.

So many people should be moving up tees! In general we are all playing courses that are too long, good on you for playing from the right place!

You don’t have to be long. Short game is everything.

@@2sqnbandit379 Yeah... but no! Play a 480 yards par 4 with a good short game and a 200 yards drive, then try again with a 280 yards drive and a mediocre short game... The second case wins 4 out of 5 times, at least! Now, sure, if you are teeing it from shorter tees you don't have that problem as much. But normal comps are "every one from the same tees", aren't they? (when they're good level comps, at least, and they are gender and age specific as well... Think PGA/LPGA/Champions' tour). Obviously a great short game may compensate being shorter by a few yards, but not a big gap. And remember, they guy sending it 280 yards in the air has to have a good technique to do it, so he likely also has an at least decent short game.

@@francoisdesmoulins-lebeaul4273 that’s true. It absolutely makes the game easier. No doubt. If my opponent is using a pw at 150 & I’m gaming a 7 iron he has a clear advantage. But I honestly think if mid hcp golfers want to get down quickly if they work more on their short game 150 in rather than spending time on the big stick they’ll benefit a lot more. Then work on speed training. I want more yardage myself. I’ve started that stix program. At my level I need more yardage to get to scratch I feel.

True. I was trying to get my son into the game, and played from the forward tees with him. It's a whole different course and different set of challenges. Not just about "blast it with the driver". Funny thing is, I was actually playing a fair bit within myself - not wanting to go miles past him and demoralise him - and I found that by swinging "softer" (feels like 70-80%)I was actually playing the ball longer and straighter than normal (feels like 95-105%). My son is still learning, so he's still going at it 150% 😂, but it'll come.

Wow, thank you!

Yes going up a club is always good advice! Good point about more carry distance from a tee peg

Thank you! My editor will be very pleased 😎

Thanks!! Hope you enjoy 😁

Thanks so much!

Agree - “simmer down” 😂 well said Hannah

You can't really count deliberate 3/4 shots in averages

I love my 3/4 knockdown driver. You're right, it often sets up for an easy 8 iron approach which can be easier than a full gap or sand wedge approach shot.

Thank you!!!

Definitely true!!

Creepy af. Take a lap, Gramps. Put the internet down for a while and go read a book or something.

@@Ryan-np4rb get a life sunshine and take a breath! There’s nothing creepy about paying a lady a compliment in a respectful manner.

Calling a woman on the internet a “hottie” when you’re 70 is absolutely creepy. Lol. Get a life? You mean one where I call golf instructors on the internet hotties? If that’s your life, I feel bad for you.

interesting insight!

It's very big of you to admit that mate.

😂😂😂 my colleague exposed there

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thank you! You just have to do what works for you 👌🏼

Is that total distance? Sorry for the silly question. I’ve only been playing (range only) for 6 months.

I need to start doing that

Great work!

Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it! 🤩

Yes short game is greatly underrated! We all miss greens so might as well get good at chipping!

I’m very similar to all of your numbers but it also depends on lofts and iron choice. I play z forged ii so fairly weak and more punishing on miss hits. But if I played something like t200 or the like. I would gain 10-15 in carry but just end up with holes in distances in bottom of the bag. Sad truth not all 7i are equal. Wish club companies would drop club numbers and put loft numbers on all clubs

@@nathaniverson6828 I’m not sure loft numbers would help, it’s all relative to CG and other tech in the club head. Not every club with the same loft will go the same distance

@@hannahholdenNCG and what you said about women driving past men to hit same club is so true. (But same goes for slower vs faster players) Peak height is the key to making the green bigger. Not enough people talk about this so thank you for making truths more public!

@@hannahholdenNCG that is completely true as well! My personal finding with iron fittings is cg effects my launch angle and peak height more than total carry (at least with irons) a few yards maybe but I can push 20 yards from 1 7i to the next strong lofted one. I just feel we need to at least get high handicaps thinking more in terms of my club is not the same as my playing partners to start thinking in terms of their own game vs oh my 7i goes the same as this guys but why doesn’t my driver. But yeah there are plenty of nuances that affect total numbers. Seems product sales hinder improvement for higher handicap ranges somewhat. (If that makes sense) and not understanding sometimes total distance isn’t king. Proper Height/spin makes much better scoring than longer is better.

You can do it!

Yes!! Love this

A driver 260 isn’t what I’d call short!

You need to get in a simulator for that data!

Yes I can understand that! The mind often is the biggest issue in golf 😅

Carry distance is so important! I’m not obsessed with the loft thing I think as long as people know their distances it’s fine we shouldn’t really be comparing

Definitely!!

Net or gross?

@@CharlotteK2008 net; I’m given 15 strokes as a 13hc on that course

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you!!

😅 love it

You'd also need the loft and type of club used to get any useful information out of a comparison with other players. I went to a fitting a couple of days ago and was carrying my 43 year old 7 iron 150 yards.Tried a few newer irons, and was carrying the Callaway AI Smoke 7 iron around 175 yards. Even with all modern clubs, comparing blades to distance irons, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 20 yard difference with 7 iron regardless of handicap.

Shot scope is definitely great at getting more accurate data than with range balls!

The stats include women, which is why they're so low. Better to compare to men for yourself.

@@hannahholdenNCG But my Shotscope X5 watch is only capable of measuring total distance, not carry distance. I don't understand where the carry distance data comes from.

All my distances are recording carry at the moment as every shot is plugged in the mud 😂😂

@@paulbeaumont3201 true 😂😂😂

My pleasure!

The stats include women which is why they're so low

Some ranges yes, if you have top tracer at your range it should normalise it to your proper distance. (give or take a few yards)/

Love it, friend! Golf has never really been a game of "how far" (though a longer ball is often an advantage, all other things being equal); golf is, at its heart, a game of "how many"... ⛳️

And how much fun you’re having. About 30 years ago I was my local golf shop and said to the owner, “After 5 years of golfing and not being able to break 100, why do these people keep torturing themselves?” The owner angrily retorted, “I hate people with that kind of attitude. If they’re having fun what’s it to you?” Ah! Having fun? Shocked, I timidly replied, “If after a few years I couldn’t break 100, golf would be no fun for me and I’d probably go fishing instead.” Timothy Gallwey in his “Inner Golf” defined the reasons why we play golf. Having fun with friends is one of them. I was always trying to defeat the course and score as best I can. That’s probably why on off days I used to feel like jumping off a cliff. Just two days ago I started out just trying to have some fun and found myself at the 17th tee thinking two easy holes; a 357 four and a downhill 525 five. Birdie- birdie gives me 77. The old arrogant thoughts resurface and I yank the last two drives left into OB and end up with 81 rather than a a 79 which for a 7hc is a heartwarming number. On the bright side double bogeying the last two holes means those would have been pars without the penalties. And sobering up at the clubhouse with 7 good companions made me feel happy… my 81 still rewarded me with $30. I can shoot anything from one under (once every blue moon) to 92 (rarely, but it happens) and finally go home with a smile no matter the score. It took me 50 years to learn but I’m here and I’m happy to still be able to play. Have fun! Fairways and greens! PenguinGolf

@@questioneverythingHaid-gb4dc People ask me how I am...My reply is how bad can I be, I am on a golf course and I am able to walk!

You gotta take the modern ball into account, Ive played a 36° blades 7i forever and max out around 180, 165 is a normal stock swing but when using the balata balls that I played when I started golfing in the 90’s it’s more like 170 max & 155 stock swing. The balls Hogan was using were even shorter than the 90’s balata balls. Plus obviously there’s a huge difference in sticks these days, I mean Brysons 9i has the same specs (loft & length) as my 7i, his 8i is between my 5 & 6, etc. I can hit my 32° iron (6i) 200 yards so it’s not that crazy that he’s hitting his 30° (8i) 200+. lots of “game improvement” clubs are similarly strong. It’s all relative as far as the sticks but the ball has become super juiced & low spinning compared to the 90’s & especially compared to Hogans day.

@@TheWedgeWizardgood stats. I’m almost looking for delofted clubs at this point. Carrying a 7i 185 is almost too much for appropriate spacing & 14 clubs.

Yes but you can hit the ball a mile and still be a crap golfer, or dink it 180 down the middle every time and have an amazing short game. Distance doesn't always determine handicap.

Red tees are still hard 😂😂 played a few times hcap 7.2

Pitching and chipping is way more important than people think! Played the Oaks a lot in Yorkshire training!

@@hannahholdenNCG Thanks Hannah have a great golfing year!

THAT is because you 16 mate 🙂

This is very sensible! More people should do this

Thanks!

Wow impressive stuff!

Trackman range has software that should know the type of ball and compares it to a proper ball to normalise your yardages so they should come out correct if it has this optimiser turned on?

Thanks, I’ll see if trackman has an optimiser. Much appreciated. 👍

Playing off 8, I’d kill (no, literally) to drive 300 (270m). Yes, it’s all about getting up&down.

You might not be able to increase speed/distance, a lot depends on physical characteristics but no one likes to admit it

Totally agree! It’s also a skill to be able to hit 85% shots and control the ball 👌🏼

Not an advert but they given me access to their database so I have statistics to use in my videos 😁 there tech is also really good 👌🏼

Keep the videos coming thanks, very much enjoy them 😁

How far do you hit your 3 wood? If they are only avg 259 with a driver that’s mind boggling to me as I can hit on avg 250-285 with my 3 wood. So why use a driver?!

You could definitely make 5-10 yard gains with new irons easily

@@MarineBand5524 people are physically different?

The stats include women mind

@@Vnam72 oh I know! For sure. I just always felt it wasn’t enough and really have been trying to kill the ball when it was totally not needed.

Good point!

Straight is great... distance is over rated ...old man's golf is really interesting

Old man golf on the fairway can score better than young man golf in trees!! 😊

100% 300 yard drive in the next fairway is useless compared to a 200 yard drive in the middle of your fairway.

Good luck 🤞🏼

Yes definitely!!

I played with a 24 handicap golfer who once hit his 7 iron 210 yards on a downwind down hill hole and that is how he calculated all his clubs.

@@nkimmanceifyI play with someone who genuinely hits his 7 iron 200 yards! Strong lofted G430 irons. I hit mine between 150-160.

Can he control ie is he off + handicap. I'm 57 and 7 iron average carry 155 still playing off 1.6

@@nkimmanceify he’s a 9 handicap. Would be lower, but often takes risks rather than plays safe.

Yes experience helps!