Nationwide BACKLASH to Criminal Justice Reformers

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Incumbent district attorney Mike Schmidt is facing a tough reelection bid after many voters of Portland, Oregon are expressing dissatisfaction with criminal justice reform measures he is imposing. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. Your Support is Crucial to the Show: tyt.com/team
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@theflipurd2
@theflipurd2 29 күн бұрын
Oregon decriminalized drugs, then waited 2 years to supply the money for them treatment centers. So, yeah, it failed. Portland police also handed out the least tickets for drug possession in the state. Grants Pass much smaller than Portland handed out almost twice as many tickets than Portland did in the first two years. I think the blame needs to go around to a lot of people for the failures in Portland and Oregon as a whole.
@andreacraik9757
@andreacraik9757 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@VeganMarshmallow
@VeganMarshmallow 25 күн бұрын
GP is the origin of the Proud Boys. THAT is the place where your dog will go psycho on drunkard drug addled bud light drinking big truck driving shopping cart pushing up all day can collecting shoplifting all night plastic jug recycling ZOMBIES.
@virginiachris80
@virginiachris80 26 күн бұрын
Big cities in California decriminalized quality of life crimes, and unsurprisingly people's quality of life gets negatively impacted.
@misternobody3481
@misternobody3481 28 күн бұрын
Some reformers need to learn the difference between not prosecuting low level offenses and ignoring them entirely.
@project_hominoid
@project_hominoid 28 күн бұрын
I'm a Portland resident and have served on a grand jury in Multnomah. There is a framing issue here with Schmidt's prosecution strategy. Yes, arrests overall are way down, and that's for a number of reasons. The most important among them is that Schmidt has refocused police efforts to go almost exclusively after violent crime. Nearly every case I saw was an open and shut violent crime case, meaning the DA is only focused on arresting and prosecuting the most heinous of offenders and taking on cases that are air tight. This is how the justice system is SUPPOSED to work. The rise in OD and other drug related issues is solely because the decriminalization laws weren't accompanied with the necessary infrastructure (safe use sites, equipment exchanges, more social workers/agencies, more affordable housing, etc.) so placing that blame specifically on Schmidt when he has no power or say what laws the state passes is a incorrect solution to the problem at hand. Cenk and Ana need to look deeper into Portland politics in order to get the full story, otherwise you end up just dishing right-wing talking points about homeless people and justice reform.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
The other issue that they overlooked is the lack of public defenders in Multnomah County, something Schmidt has called an "urgent threat to public safety." The county added half a dozen PD's last year, but it still has less than a third of the number it needs to process the rising caseload.
@mooochiiart5130
@mooochiiart5130 28 күн бұрын
They clearly aren’t familiar with Portland politics, and it shows. We have a complicated city council system that makes it challenging for the mayor here to really do anything substantial for the city. Then again, Ted Wheeler has been highly ineffective and has allowed homelessness and crime to explode here.
@mooochiiart5130
@mooochiiart5130 28 күн бұрын
So I guess it’s a mix of Ted Wheeler and the city’s politics??
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@mooochiiart5130 I've lived in Portland for almost 35 years. There has always been homelessness and crime here. I recall seeing small encampments on the hillside by Lloyd Center in 2012, long before Ted Wheeler became mayor. The thing that contributed most to the increase in both crime and homelessness was COVID, followed by the lack of affordable housing stock and astronomical rents. People who were already living paycheck to paycheck, and who were essentially rent burdened, suddenly found themselves without a steady income as businesses and companies started cutting the workforce. That's when something that had been a problem for decades became an issue that Portlanders couldn't ignore. Wheeler gets a bunch of shit from progressives who are still pissed off about the way he threw them under the bus during the protests in 2020. Is he the perfect mayor? No, but then again Portland is basically an ungovernable city.
@WolvMedia_
@WolvMedia_ 28 күн бұрын
THANK YOU
@chriswhite2151
@chriswhite2151 25 күн бұрын
To quote Anna Kasparian, "What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing!!!!"
@oceania2385
@oceania2385 26 күн бұрын
Cenk saying "these aren't progressive policies" is the funniest thing I've heard in a decade.
@smurfcatcher
@smurfcatcher 29 күн бұрын
This country feels like it's in an uncontrollably tailspin. Not just this topic but everything. We are in endless wars, endless riots, endless protests, endless spending and endless political and social fighting. All resulting in no improvement and more fighting
@tiorontoron7531
@tiorontoron7531 29 күн бұрын
no refunds
@andreacraik9757
@andreacraik9757 29 күн бұрын
I just voted in the Oregon Primaries… I felt that I was facing more of a “strategic” vote, who was more likely to win against the Republican candidate in November… than who was the more progressive candidate. The failed drug policy change was mostly due to the states inability to support the rehab option in sentencing. It was a great idea, but if you’re given a get out of jail free card if you seek intervention… but there is no intervention available… FAIL! In addition, there was such a huge backlog of cases, leftover from COVID and the unavailability of public defenders, they threw out 300 cases in one fell swoop due to delayed justice. The word on the street is the drug zombies aren’t charged because there is nowhere to put them, no one to defend them, no place to rehab them, and they will just become the criminalized poor/homeless when they fail to appear. And nobody wants to pay for the institutions required, let alone have them in their neighborhoods. It’s a vicious cycle made worse by the massive fires creating a homelessness crisis… Oregon had an estimated 25,000 people displaced by fire over a couple year period, followed by a huge predatory investor buy out of property, the rent in Oregon freaking doubled… the houses that were rebuilt were not double wides in the blackberries, or put back up for rent for $500 a month… they built huge luxuries and sold to out of state investors, or rows of A-frames along the rivers, listed as Air BnBs for fishing. The displaced people were moved and shuffled into the roadside drug camps… it’s no shock many of them started doing fentanyl! We need help! Don’t even get me started on our “NEW” congressional district, or the Greater Idaho Initiative to try annex Eastern Oregon into IDAHO! Are you kidding me… like I wrote above, when I was much calmer… Strategic Voting! Maybe one day I will vote with my heart, and for my progressive values? But today was NOT that day my friend!
@waltlock8805
@waltlock8805 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, God forbid you get a Republican in office who would actually try to fix those problems...
@andreacraik9757
@andreacraik9757 27 күн бұрын
@@waltlock8805 Well… Many of the elected republicans failed to show up for work, and are now ineligible to run again. Their solution to “fix those problems” was to block all voting with an orchestrated walk out!
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
Just to be clear, the number of elected officials in the US who are anarchists is ZERO.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
By just about every metric, homicides are down by 10% in the US, and the rate of violent crimes has declined by 12%. Most areas of Portland, including the Pearl District, the area between Burnside and Northwest 23rd, and southeast from the river to Cesar Chavez Boulevard, are safe and full of locals and visitors eating, shopping, and having a good time. And yet, alarmist local media would have everyone here believe that the city is one massive hellscape.
@howardmctroy3303
@howardmctroy3303 27 күн бұрын
It doesn't need to be the worst it's ever been, it's bad enough.
@mojrimibnharb4584
@mojrimibnharb4584 28 күн бұрын
This isn't about crime, it's about NIMBYs not wanting to look at homeless people.
@Demo5
@Demo5 28 күн бұрын
You misspelled ana.
@Porter90
@Porter90 27 күн бұрын
Poverty is only one part of the problem, not the entire problem. Moral decay, bad parenting, and absent fathers play a huge role in becoming a criminal, not just poverty. There is an undeniable rise in crime perpetrated by people who should already be in jail or should never have been released. The problem is far-lfft prosecutors don't want to charge criminals so they allow repetitive offenders loose on the street. My state is full of DA's who refuse to do their job because "muh racism". Why are criminals allowed to roam around free to constantly assault people? Why are they allowed to break the law without any consequences? Police is catching them but what's the point if they're always being released? Some individuals simply cannot be rehabilitated.
@Porter90
@Porter90 27 күн бұрын
Crime in America is all-time high. Because of the crime epidemic in urban areas, Americans want more police spending, not less. Imagine that. It's clear as day who's committing these crimes & who suffers especially when police is defunded. This is a harsh slap of reality to accept.
@Demo5
@Demo5 27 күн бұрын
@@Porter90 objectively not at an all time high media coverage of it maybe and people self selecting media to reflect their fear and bias that sure but coverage tricking gullible people and those run by their emotions dose not equal reality.
@mojrimibnharb4584
@mojrimibnharb4584 27 күн бұрын
@@Porter90 No, it's the entire problem. We have decades of stats on this and two things are clear: 1. Crime is a result of (especially generational) poverty. 2. Police have zero effect on crime rates.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 24 күн бұрын
It is not the job of a DA to reform the criminal justice system. That is the job of the legislature. The job of a DA is to prosecute criminals according to the laws. If he tried to reform the system that means criminals will get off the hook.
@tonyv416
@tonyv416 24 күн бұрын
FACTS.. notice how none of the radical Demoncrat Marxist left lunatics agree with your TRUE statement
@johnathoncastro
@johnathoncastro 29 күн бұрын
what does this show and red lobster have in common?
@rabbott9938
@rabbott9938 29 күн бұрын
Well - you gotta try things to see if they work
@davidhutchinson5233
@davidhutchinson5233 28 күн бұрын
Oregon just forgot the treatment component. That and a few more programs and changes could make decriminalization work.
@chrisholland1668
@chrisholland1668 26 күн бұрын
If Anna started spewing the truth, I could watch her all day
@valerielhw
@valerielhw 29 күн бұрын
You are mixing many separate issues here. I live in Portland, and measure 110, which decriminalized drug usage, never stated that it was legal to use them in public. Because our local law enforcement is lazy, they just decided to _interpret_ the law that way. While I am against the PUBLIC usage of drugs, criminalizing ALL drug usage is wrong, expensive and has a proven record of failure. People using drugs should be ticketed, and given the option of treatment with inexpensive and SAFER alternative drugs. Taking the profits away from big drug cartels is the only reasonable way to fight them! I also totally oppose arresting people for the "crime" of poverty. People that are too poor to afford housing should be granted affordable housing, *not arrested!* If this country can send billions overseas on military aid, it can afford universal housing for US citizens! Shoplifters should obviously be prosecuted. I have always totally opposed the fact that our city and county leaders have failed to do so, at least until now. As stated, these are all SEPARATE issues that need to be dealt with SEPARATELY.
@XallySucks
@XallySucks 28 күн бұрын
Very true, all these issues are separate, but it's very convenient to lump them all together for the sake of being an alarmist like Ana is regarding anything crime/poverty related. Girl personally experienced one crime in her entire life and now is on a rampage against everyone not being thrown in prison immediately for anything.
@danielguzman6934
@danielguzman6934 29 күн бұрын
We are going to end up with a situation similar to that of El Salvador and Nayib Bukele. People are going to get sick of the homeless, drug use, and criminals, to the point that people are going to elect whoever is willing to clean up the streets.
@mattreedah
@mattreedah 27 күн бұрын
The issue is on the extreme left there is are REAL ideas regarding the abolition of police and incarceration - essentially anarchy. Unfortunately, these were supported by the BLM movement and gained real traction countrywide in 2020 and were financed by mega donors. My hope is the progressive movement disassociates from these people and ideas. Sounds like this is a start.
@B25694477
@B25694477 27 күн бұрын
During the 30's 40's and 50. Laws were not as strict as they were in the modern era. It's such a bad idea to defund the police, but there should be alternatives to incarceration deepening on the crime of course.
@Bramble451
@Bramble451 29 күн бұрын
I would like the specific videos where you were criticizing these policies. If you stop outlawing a bunch of common crimes, then yes, there will be fewer arrests. That's what you wanted. The policy fails, so your response to is to say that they weren't really Progressive? Hindsight is 20/20, and your refusal to admit you were wrong is a Trumpian level of rewriting history.
@elfsong713
@elfsong713 29 күн бұрын
I really didn't like either choice in this particular race.
@CorpsmanPrivateer
@CorpsmanPrivateer 29 күн бұрын
Same.
@Rascal2944
@Rascal2944 28 күн бұрын
Another one bites the dust Another one gone Another one bites the dust. 😂😂😂😂
@davidsweeney7837
@davidsweeney7837 29 күн бұрын
Decriminalisation is no good by itself. You then have to have free help for addicts, safe needle places and a full societal look at addiction. Just making carrying drugs legal is idiotic…
@TheMunstertim
@TheMunstertim 28 күн бұрын
I live in Portland Mike Smidt has been very bad for our city.
@Peace2humankind
@Peace2humankind 28 күн бұрын
This is all about peoples' hatred and disgust with somply seeing homeless people. This phenomenon alters political ideology in a heartbeat.
@montanamountainmen6104
@montanamountainmen6104 28 күн бұрын
So what if it is. They have the right to demand the homeless be removed.
@Peace2humankind
@Peace2humankind 28 күн бұрын
@@montanamountainmen6104 So, you hate the homeless as well. Got it. Removed and put in jail is that they are asking for. That is despicable.
@montanamountainmen6104
@montanamountainmen6104 28 күн бұрын
@@Peace2humankind Yep what if I do? Its not illegal to dislike them and they cause property values to decline, another few facts.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@montanamountainmen6104 You cause property values to decline, too.
@djackson4605
@djackson4605 28 күн бұрын
@@Peace2humankind Actually if you use some time to think, they're in a safe place, out of the cold/elements, have food/water... Jail is literally an upgrade for the vast majority of them. Try using less "feelings" and more of your brain.
@ASaund-qb6wy
@ASaund-qb6wy 28 күн бұрын
Criminal justice needed to be reformed. I'm really suspicious why it was done in such an extreme way that clearly would piss people off. Also, never forget that cops work against anything like this, so there are surely shenanigans as well.
@xbabu142x
@xbabu142x 28 күн бұрын
Mate as someone from another country with many family members in the force, I literally thought they were all making a joke when they said a officer in uniform can receive a manslaughter charge and get a reduction due to being in a fit of passion... Man what in the actual eff, the fact it was true had me stunned honestly. Always thought they were trolling me since it's a massive negative, no such thing as manslaughter in uniform, that's just a straight up unauthorized extra judicial execution, if not done in self defense. Also your psych eval had better been done to the requirements or the psych is getting investigated as well if an incident occurs... That's a charge equal to capital murder roughly, plus ya definitely do not get no pension or severance from the force yo lol.
@478Johnnyboy
@478Johnnyboy 26 күн бұрын
Drove through Portaland last year first 2 min in the city a group of guys were on the street smoking crack. I don’t know why they thought that drug policy was a great idea.
@maxheadman59
@maxheadman59 25 күн бұрын
The whole "we need to make all drugs legal will fix everything" mentality didn't play out as well as the libs thought it would. As another youtuber said, people are having to rediscover that fire is hot.
@jbilla
@jbilla 28 күн бұрын
All I wanted was police oversight and accountability. Maybe leniency in certain cases for non violent crimes and misdemeanors. Oversight and review of Prosecutors, and cops excessively over charging people. I just don’t understand the need to completely discarding the idea of criminal justice reform on the whole. Some things just dont work and if they dont, try something else, Eliminate inefficiencies.
@beanabovethefrank1499
@beanabovethefrank1499 28 күн бұрын
I agree. I think that was Cenk's point, too. But here I ask why he started his timeline with, "Schmidt started allowing criminals to not be charged, convicted and incarcerated, then people were alarmed." I didn't watch Schmidt's campaign trail. If he said flat-out from the beginning that he wanted to ignore crime in large swaths, and the people saw that and voted for him, then the storyline Cenk provided is misleading.
@Demo5
@Demo5 27 күн бұрын
But that is what has happened in Portland and the media has created this narrative blaming it for the overdose / homeless rise of course if you compare it to the rest of the nation it'snot really different from most other cities red or blue ...but that doesn't site with the narrative. Same as that crime overall is dropping pretty fast from it's 30% jump during the trump administration but that's not as exciting MSM and the rightwing are actually want to hide that and push the opposite or alternative facts
@elizabethe6459
@elizabethe6459 20 күн бұрын
If someone steals your car is that a “nonviolent” crime? Y’all think property shouldn’t be owned regardless so you don’t care about property crimes like they are victimless. Why are repeat offenders out with no bond?
@Ncappuccino
@Ncappuccino 27 күн бұрын
As a Portland resident, these are very fair takes. I am a progressive, I've watched your channel for 10 years. I do not think that replacing my car window twice a year, walking past people overdosing in downtown daily, seeing mass encampments catch fire weekly is "progressive" values on display. It's embarrassing and the soft-on-crime approach has effected minority small business owners, and those who cannot afford to live in this city already the most.
@miguelben610
@miguelben610 25 күн бұрын
So will you change the party you vote for or keep voting for the same party and expecting different outcomes? Real question?
@JH-vb1wo
@JH-vb1wo 28 күн бұрын
Needs to be much harsher penalties for repeat offenders. I know this guy that got arrested 6 times last year each time was 3 to 5 felonies and 3 or 4 nis frameworks equaling over 20 felonies but he didn’t get a single day in jail even with one of those being assaulting a police officer and fleeing evading plus many drug trafficking charges. Then he got arrested again last week and they just now revoked his probation
@jillmoore3987
@jillmoore3987 25 күн бұрын
He won. I still can't believe it. We finally have a Republican DA.
@chrisholland1668
@chrisholland1668 26 күн бұрын
Did he just say I don’t see these judges as progressives? Did he really just say that?
@BenedictMHolland
@BenedictMHolland 28 күн бұрын
Because criminalizing drugs and homelessness worked out so well before. It's more telling that cops can't simply take your stuff and sell it when drugs are not illegal. That hit budgets and heaven forbid you stop letting cops steal your stuff for money.
@Silencedfixer
@Silencedfixer 28 күн бұрын
Thats not the issue...No cash bail went too far...and ooen dope areas are definitely a no go
@Wileysmiley
@Wileysmiley 28 күн бұрын
It worked incredibly well NYC in the 90s and you see what happens when you get rid of it today
@BenedictMHolland
@BenedictMHolland 28 күн бұрын
@Wileysmiley but did it though or was NYC just following the trend since the late 70's that saw a huge reduction in crime? It turned the police force into a militant fascist pariah in minority areas. It inflicted countless suffering on innocent people. You know, the ones arrested and eventually let go after months of not being charged. Nothing about stop and frisk really panned out.
@BenedictMHolland
@BenedictMHolland 28 күн бұрын
@@Silencedfixer did people stop showing up to hearings? From stats I've seen, the number of people who missed trial dates largely went unchanged. What we did see a drop in were poor people in jails for months. Of course, companies make lots and lots of money from those people as "job creators" post nonsense about how crime sky rocketed. It didnt.
@Silencedfixer
@Silencedfixer 28 күн бұрын
@@BenedictMHolland Have you ever been to prison? You really think the majority of them are in there because they were poor and had no choice? Or...they were just people taking advantage of doing things to get paid and not have to work? Believe me...they aren't just there due to bad luck kiddo
@1198365
@1198365 28 күн бұрын
The punishment vs treatment debate might be the best option to actually reduce the numbers of addicts on the streets, homelessness is also something that needs a non police solution but just ignoring crime helps nobody
@amercanmade2685
@amercanmade2685 24 күн бұрын
Criminal Justice Reform should start with "What would make the Victim's know and feel they had Justice" Until you are ready to start there we will have nothing to talk about.
@kingluithe1st
@kingluithe1st 28 күн бұрын
6:30 no maybe they realized that they don’t want progressive policies anymore. I believe they know they are the most progressive city in the world.
@Demo5
@Demo5 27 күн бұрын
And yet there crime ain't as bad per capita as so so many conservative ones .
@desireeespinosa3954
@desireeespinosa3954 29 күн бұрын
Police Officers, and prosecutors need to be held accountable when they destroy innocent people’s lives. Full stop
29 күн бұрын
So do criminals, full stop. lol
@XallySucks
@XallySucks 28 күн бұрын
They should be, but TYT would have you believe it's the voters' fault the cops and prosecutors failing to do their job correctly. Somehow they forgot about all those years they spent reporting cop misconduct and actual prosecution injustices.
@philliphessel6788
@philliphessel6788 29 күн бұрын
When the only alternative is to trespass on private property, criminalizing being in public space is like punishing people for breathing - except even the possibility of breathing depends firstly on being someplace! Are the voters eager to make paying taxes for prisons their ‘solution’ to homelessness?!
@LukeKendall-author
@LukeKendall-author 29 күн бұрын
I hope the proposed law to force members of the public to leave public spaces, only applies if the person is committing some offence, not simply existing.
@BillyJr68
@BillyJr68 28 күн бұрын
So if this is happening in "progressive" cities and these reforms are not "progressive", how did they happen?
@xbabu142x
@xbabu142x 28 күн бұрын
I'm gonna place the fault squarely upon them austerity measures that led to the 2001 Venezuelan debt crisis frankly.
@markduncan1144
@markduncan1144 29 күн бұрын
Is it really helpful to track how many cases you prosecute in a given time period, if you don't also include something like, charges filed?
@B25694477
@B25694477 28 күн бұрын
I always thought it was stupid idea to defund the police. But always supported criminal law reform.
@kingluithe1st
@kingluithe1st 28 күн бұрын
11:45 cenk finds a way to blame white people for everything lmao
@Incredible520
@Incredible520 28 күн бұрын
Mus**lims always blaming the West for their own societal failures for the past 500 years.
@philliphessel6788
@philliphessel6788 29 күн бұрын
Arrests for opioids are likely not to make a dent in consumption, but to the contrary to add to demand while enriching top players in criminal cartels whose enterprises embrace more than supplying that demand. We’ve been through this before, and it were better to learn from the experience.
@lowboyyy
@lowboyyy 29 күн бұрын
how do you think you get people to detox lol?
@chrisholland1668
@chrisholland1668 26 күн бұрын
I’m here to see this. You are eventually going to be a right wing outlet and I love it.
@NoName-ml5yk
@NoName-ml5yk 25 күн бұрын
They are doing this to boost numbers and you are falling for it.
@KLH916
@KLH916 27 күн бұрын
It is so funny to me.. 40 mil to a security company but the actual people doing the protection, the security guards, get paid like 15 bucks an hour.. really think about that..
@Juan-os4hs
@Juan-os4hs 27 күн бұрын
PT with few benefits and minimal or no retirement. 🤔
@PriestessKikyo1
@PriestessKikyo1 28 күн бұрын
I like well funded, properly trained police departments. I don't like militarized police that can mow down protesters with armored personnel equipment or shooting people as a first solution instead of de-escalization. But it's hard to expect cops to put their lives on the line when our streets are overflowing with assault weapons. 😔😔😔
@ASaund-qb6wy
@ASaund-qb6wy 28 күн бұрын
Drugs should be decriminalized. You need a system that supports it, which has been the problem.
@georgeglass3680
@georgeglass3680 28 күн бұрын
You are the problem.
@niltomega2978
@niltomega2978 28 күн бұрын
Look at Canada where its been decriminalized. Disaster.
@daveadam435
@daveadam435 29 күн бұрын
They asked for the police to be defunded and that's what they got
@RobertPaulGass
@RobertPaulGass 29 күн бұрын
And TYT was among those asking for it back before it became unpopular.
@daveadam435
@daveadam435 28 күн бұрын
@@RobertPaulGass yea after crime rocketed !! To little to late !!
@anthonyrowland9072
@anthonyrowland9072 28 күн бұрын
If it ain't tax cuts, prison , or more guns, America ain't hearing it...
@joebubblegum5755
@joebubblegum5755 28 күн бұрын
Let me start by saying I like the show but don’t agree with your assumption that the cases not taken were all criminal. Watch how cops behave on audits where they known they are being filmed and you will see that they arrest people knowing the prosecutors want cases.
@khalisanchez7602
@khalisanchez7602 28 күн бұрын
Thank you Mr cenk and Anna see I like you better because you give us news we don't like that race hustle poor victim mentality you give us the news that actually affects I can read that should be ready
@bluecoffee8414
@bluecoffee8414 28 күн бұрын
The mind-blowingly safe Sweden I grew up in is a distant memory now. And yes I ENTIRELY blame the left. Unvetted mass immigration combined with "criminals are the real victims" insanity has destroyed Sweden's incredible achievement of creating a CULTURE over centuries that highly values honesty, non-corruption and pro-social/anti-criminal values. Most likely it's ruined forever. The Guardian reports that eg 10 years ago, Sweden had the second lowest gun crime rate in all ofEurope. We now have the second HIGHEST and more than DOUBLE the european average 4/million vs 1.6/million average. I could list 2 dozen indicators like this.
@ronin7261
@ronin7261 28 күн бұрын
🤡💩
@tuggstockman8539
@tuggstockman8539 27 күн бұрын
You're lucky if there are ten units on patrol at any given time, by the police's own admission.
@jjsc4396
@jjsc4396 29 күн бұрын
Similar to Rose Bird in CA in 1986 being booted from the state Supreme Court. Then 3-strikes laws. Go too far left and the backlash can be excessive.
@montanamountainmen6104
@montanamountainmen6104 28 күн бұрын
Oregon turned into " Little California " decades ago why I left there after 27 years. You reap what you sow and Oregons gonna reap it hard.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
So now you're a sheep fucker in Montana. Good to know.
@Demo5
@Demo5 28 күн бұрын
You leave the USA because it's online with national averages other than arrests being down due to not arrested people for personal drug possession but everything else same rise as tough on crime states .
@B25694477
@B25694477 28 күн бұрын
Maybe off topic. But Bail is not for punishment. Bail is to see if someone is a flight risk. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
@Porter90
@Porter90 27 күн бұрын
Violent criminals should not be able to get out on bail.
@B25694477
@B25694477 27 күн бұрын
@@Porter90 You got to take into account what if that person accused of a violent crime is in fact not guilty.
@AmberSmollett
@AmberSmollett 28 күн бұрын
I’m not judging the people from California and Portland for these ideas. All I ask is that when it doesn’t work and you have to move just leave your ideas there. They obviously didn’t work. Learn from it
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
And what happens when the ideas where you live aren't working?
@kyo08399
@kyo08399 28 күн бұрын
@@EgoSumAbbas820 Move and try to implement them elsewhere? It's not rocket science... With enough tries it will work 👍
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@kyo08399 Wait. I thought you just said that people who have to move shouldn't bring their ideas with them.
@kyo08399
@kyo08399 28 күн бұрын
​@@EgoSumAbbas820 How could you miss my OBVIOUS sarcasm... oh wait, you are a TYT viewer. Everything checks out 👍
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@kyo08399 Pro tip: Very few people are good at deploying sarcasm online, including you. I'm sure you think you're brilliant at it, but you might want to adjust your self-assessment.
@mikefromvernon
@mikefromvernon 28 күн бұрын
Very mixed feelings on decriminalization of drugs. Fortunately I never got into that scene but I know people who did and came out the other side. From what they tell me cold turkey is NOT an option once you're hooked. Just say no doesn't work for people who want out but can't get support/medically supervised programs that do work. At the same time I totally support the not in public, taking down the criminal element in street dealing etc. If we got people off the drugs there would no demand therefore the dealers would go out of business.
@abigailbp9294
@abigailbp9294 28 күн бұрын
You are pretty spot on and I would add that jailing addicts for using does nothing to help them and in fact hurts them bc not only is prison traumatic and unhealthy, but even if you get clean you then have a criminal record so good luck finding a decent job. I mean, show me any other disease in which ppl are turned into criminals bc of a diagnosis?? The human condition is so tragic...we could do better.
@Rolling2Much
@Rolling2Much 29 күн бұрын
I don’t like all of your opinions but I enjoy the show. Keep it up! 👍🏿
@nunyabiznuss9869
@nunyabiznuss9869 28 күн бұрын
Why not keep it weird and start up there own group of state funded super heroes to stand up to “Evil Doers”? 😃
@terribletomvu37
@terribletomvu37 28 күн бұрын
There’s a U in PROSECUTOR. Ha ha, top notch organization you run there, gargoyle.
@SammyAbby-es8iz
@SammyAbby-es8iz 29 күн бұрын
great content thank you
@user-bn3kz2kg2r
@user-bn3kz2kg2r 29 күн бұрын
Hey my area is on tyt again lol
@xbabu142x
@xbabu142x 28 күн бұрын
It's aight, I felt the most disappointed when I visited to truly experience Mad Max IRL as Fox had painted it , but all that happened was some crazy lady kept trying to push Amway on me. I honestly had no idea Amway was still even around. Whoever taught her sales skills needs an L, walking up to a random dude with the opener "Hey, how'd you like to make some money sir," is actually certifiably insane lmao. She proceeded to tag along for seven whole city blocks of walking I did whilst doing errands for work, then I had a meeting over lunch at Cheryl's on 12th. This lady went from the Amway stuff to trying to prove she was sane, to which I did not say otherwise or ask for proof, honestly was expecting her to go away at any moment. But nah a whole like 80 minutes and all the way to Cheryl's, but what the kicker was the genuine look of betrayal she had when I refused to say she was my +1, like we hadn't met less than two hours ago, that just sent me into a laughing fit, had to tell her she may have the acting chops to play Annie I guess, but I've got neither the looks nor inclination for the role of Sam, and gave her 20 USD and told her to go find Sam, but maybe hit up a optometrist first as well, just to maximize the chances lol. Portland in a nutshell imo. At the end of the day I'm guessing some kinda hallucinogenic, but regardless, for her sake, I hope the Amway part was all made up.
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 27 күн бұрын
From what I hear? Nationwide is a gross exaggeration. It's pretty much just Portland (where the roll out of programs was botched and the cops went on strike) and San Fransisco where people had it out for Chesa Boudin from the start.
@Ncappuccino
@Ncappuccino 27 күн бұрын
Seattle elected a Republican as their City Attorney in 2021 as well. This is becoming a trend in deep-blue, progressive, west coast cities whether you want to accept that reality or not. And it is often the minority-heavy precincts voting the most against these "progressive" candidates.
@virginiachris80
@virginiachris80 26 күн бұрын
TYT has a bit of a West Coast bias because most contributors are in Los Angles.
@NoName-ml5yk
@NoName-ml5yk 25 күн бұрын
Soft on crime is ruining cities all over California.
@khalisanchez7602
@khalisanchez7602 28 күн бұрын
It's a harsh reality I understand by what enabling criminals to be career criminals it's like to say oh poopy poo say oh it's your fault it's not your fault you're just another victim of society a criminal who has no choice but to turn the criminality people are not know people need to understand that there are better ways it's The end why can't they just go to SSI do something with their life
@johnt8441
@johnt8441 29 күн бұрын
Single big question, how many of the 12,000 arrests were for marijuana only? Given general history I'd suggest that over 50% were for marijuana exclusively or other misdemeanors such as disturbing the peace or walking while black.
@el80ne
@el80ne 29 күн бұрын
marijuana is legal in Oregon.
@joryferrell7244
@joryferrell7244 29 күн бұрын
Oregon should have enough open land to create a dedicated rehab city, complete with transportation services. Hell, they could hire the homeless that are clean to handle the transportation. Technically, having the homeless settled outside a major city can make life harder for them...but only if it's handled improperly. With them being concentrated, resources can be applied more easily to help them get clean, and trained in job skills. They should be provided with a room, meals, counseling, etc. All of that is cheaper than dealing with criminal damages and jailing them.
@khalisanchez7602
@khalisanchez7602 28 күн бұрын
I think it's because the wealthiest people they depend on California to make them nice and I think that's what's scaring this is why they're being pressured cuz I don't want these people to move
@lynnebarrett9912
@lynnebarrett9912 29 күн бұрын
There aren't many public defenders. That's one problem.
@silo18
@silo18 29 күн бұрын
Yes! Wish they took a deeper dive and mentioned this fact. Just looked up some quick information. The American Bar Association said in 2022 that Oregon has only 31% of the total public defenders it needs. And we can’t just keep people in jail forever waiting for an attorney… that would violate their rights.
@trroland1248
@trroland1248 29 күн бұрын
Typo in thumbnail! So professional. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@god_bleach
@god_bleach 28 күн бұрын
I call my private security firm for protection. I don’t believe in the socialism system of the police department.
@barbaraeslick558
@barbaraeslick558 28 күн бұрын
Is he another Fetterman?? Get elected as a Progressive and then turn Republican?
@howardmctroy3303
@howardmctroy3303 28 күн бұрын
I hope so.
@atarileaf
@atarileaf 28 күн бұрын
Lefty utopian policies failing? Im shocked 😂
@kennymccormick9292
@kennymccormick9292 27 күн бұрын
Moron
@josephsorrendino4920
@josephsorrendino4920 28 күн бұрын
This is just another glaring example of government failure.
@Themindlessfool12358
@Themindlessfool12358 28 күн бұрын
I was informed to relay that the crazy diamonds are exempt from this prejudgement phase..whatever that means! 😘 Also, to use your free will in a good way..as long as you do what you do with love and do no harm..your life will not be dictated by anyone else's religion. 💥💥💥💥💥 You are good to go at this moment. Use your discretion wisely is from me!!!
@wegder
@wegder 27 күн бұрын
The damage has already been done, trump gets a second term.
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 27 күн бұрын
That has nothing to do with this.
@chriswhite2151
@chriswhite2151 25 күн бұрын
​@@MWhaleK I think it has a lot to do with it. In reality, no. In people's minds, they are connected
@otakushinsaku
@otakushinsaku 29 күн бұрын
I disagree hard with Ana and Cenk's conservative pro-cop and pro-criminalization stances here. As an Oregon voter myself, I'm deeply saddened by the recent conservative push that seems to be gaining momentum in our state. This shift has been particularly evident with the ousting of progressive leaders who have long championed the values of inclusivity, environmental protection, and social justice. It's disheartening to see the political landscape in Oregon veer away from the progressive ideals that many of us hold dear, threatening to undermine the progress we've made in creating a more equitable and forward-thinking society. One of the most alarming aspects of this conservative resurgence is the concerted effort to repeal Measure 110, a landmark initiative that decriminalized small amounts of drugs and redirected resources towards addiction treatment and recovery services. Measure 110 was a significant step towards addressing the opioid crisis and treating substance abuse as a public health issue rather than a criminal one. Recriminalizing drug possession not only fails to address the root causes of addiction but also risks returning to policies that disproportionately impact marginalized communities. Also, criminalizing homelessness is fundamentally at odds with progressive values and aligns more with conservative approaches that prioritize punitive measures over systemic solutions. This approach fails to address the root causes of homelessness, such as lack of affordable housing, mental health services, and economic inequality. Instead of providing support and pathways to stability, criminalization exacerbates the problem by pushing vulnerable individuals further into the margins of society. Truly progressive solutions, often rooted in socialist principles, have been proven effective worldwide. Housing-first policies, for example, prioritize providing permanent housing to homeless individuals without preconditions. This approach has seen success in countries like Finland, where homelessness has significantly decreased due to comprehensive social support systems that include not just housing, but also healthcare, employment assistance, and social services. These solutions focus on treating homelessness as a social issue that requires compassionate and structured intervention. Moreover, progressive strategies emphasize preventative measures, such as ensuring affordable housing, livable wages, and robust social safety nets. These measures address the systemic inequities that lead to homelessness in the first place. By investing in community resources and support networks, we can create a more equitable society where everyone has the opportunity to thrive. Criminalizing homelessness not only fails to solve the issue but also diverts attention and resources away from these effective, compassionate solutions. The push to reverse these progressive measures feels like a step backward for Oregon. It's crucial to remember the spirit of compassion and understanding that led to the adoption of policies like Measure 110. As voters, we must stay vigilant and advocate for leaders and policies that prioritize health, rehabilitation, and social justice. Oregon has always been a beacon of progressive thought, and it's vital that we continue to fight for the values that define our state's unique character and forward-thinking vision.
@ArchieCrypto
@ArchieCrypto 28 күн бұрын
My cousin lives in Portland and we both agree drugs should just be legal because people will never stop wanting them, but they shouldn’t be allowed to so drugs out in the open Nd commit crimes without repercussions. He said he will walk his kids to school and people will be smoking crack, meth, and pills, and nodding out and tweaking all over and he had to explain to them what’s going on and they’re 5yo.
@niltomega2978
@niltomega2978 28 күн бұрын
Thats because liberalism is a big giant fail and America is finally figuring it out.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@niltomega2978 Please share with us all of the policies Republicans have implemented successfully since the last time they won a major election in...checks notes...2016.
@michaelbailey1086
@michaelbailey1086 29 күн бұрын
I wasn't aware there were so many progressives living in gated communities--thanks for that info Ana
@mikechang2023
@mikechang2023 28 күн бұрын
"Anarchist DAs"? Really Cenk?
@Wileysmiley
@Wileysmiley 28 күн бұрын
Yes he is corrext
@mikechang2023
@mikechang2023 28 күн бұрын
@@Wileysmiley so Cenk isn’t the only one who doesn’t know what “anarchist” means.
@xbabu142x
@xbabu142x 28 күн бұрын
@@Wileysmiley What do you mean? How is anarchy defined? Honestly the worst of the bunch Pamela Price has a 93% success rate on her policies... Like instead of just fixing the loopholes for the 7%, the answer would be to just pay money to incarcerate the other 93%? Instead of them paying taxes and being a part of the economy???
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@Wileysmiley I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the number of anarchists who hold elected positions in this country is ZERO.
@kingeatking
@kingeatking 29 күн бұрын
They defuned the police and demonised it as a career. So ya they kind of did ask for this.
@BigBox609
@BigBox609 29 күн бұрын
There will be an alien 👽 invasion on October 22nd, 2033. 😱😱😱 Be prepared earth 🌎! #alieninvasion #prepareforearth #October22nd2033
@mycatsaliberal3848
@mycatsaliberal3848 28 күн бұрын
Who would of thought crime gets worse when you don’t punish criminals. Shocker
@theflipurd2
@theflipurd2 29 күн бұрын
The homeless in Portland have a 5'X6' tents and their belonging take up 20'X30' plot of land. They have 4' filing cabinet, treadmill, and any peice of junk they can get their hands on. Yeah people are tired of it. If you're living in a tent you dont need a two car garge of junk surrounding it. Portland just changed the laws and their stuff wont be able to go over 2' from their tents. We'll see how that goes. It would be great if it works. I've been homeless my self just two years ago so i get doing what you gotta do. All these junkyards all over the city is too much.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
If you claim to be from Portland, be prepared to answer questions about the city that only a resident would know.
@alexcobb880
@alexcobb880 28 күн бұрын
The Citizens of Linn County Oregon are very Conservative compared to Portland. For example Lyons Oregon I remember seeing a lot of Trump flags in that town when I was driving through there. And I felt like Linn County does not have any of the issues that Portland has.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@alexcobb880 Linn County also has 1/8 the population of Multnomah County. But yes, it is more conservative.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@alexcobb880 If you think conservative jurisdictions don't have crime, substance use problems, untreated mental health issues, or homelessness, you are living in a fantasy land.
@janharg1
@janharg1 28 күн бұрын
I’m a resident of Portland, and I think they didn’t plan well. Decriminalization should have been the LAST step. First, we have to work on getting houseless people safe living spaces, access to healthy food, and access to healthcare, including addiction rehabilitation and mental healthcare. It seems to me that they didn’t think things through very well.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
Implementing this so soon after COVID was a recipe for disaster.
@mojrimibnharb4584
@mojrimibnharb4584 28 күн бұрын
No, you have it backwards. You can't house and treat people who are under threat of arrest.
@Demo5
@Demo5 28 күн бұрын
Not out of the nation average crime wise ....but if people nation wide hove been shaken up in to a anti-homless hysteria you think they are going to agree to spend that sort of money on the homeless? they are disgusted even Seeing them as soon as the media run storys about even 1 commiting a crime people like ana would be screaming about how finding a solution and angry that the "left" wouldn't accept the solution that would make her happy....a final solution.
@metalheadami123
@metalheadami123 28 күн бұрын
Also Pamela price is another liberal DA in Oakland facing a recall
@user-ru1gi1xm5q
@user-ru1gi1xm5q 28 күн бұрын
Wow she said something nice about bidin
@TheOfficialZombieWhisperer
@TheOfficialZombieWhisperer 28 күн бұрын
Oregonian here, 🖕
@greg6924
@greg6924 29 күн бұрын
Ana Vigeland, queen virtue signaler, is punching air right now. 😂
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
Mike Schmidt has conceded. If in four years Nathan Vasquez has failed to make any significant change in Multnomah County, do we get to rub the "law and order" crowd's nose in it?
@Porter90
@Porter90 27 күн бұрын
Poverty is only one part of the problem, not the entire problem. Moral decay, bad parenting, and absent fathers play a huge role in becoming a criminal, not just poverty. There is an undeniable rise in crime perpetrated by people who should already be in jail or should never have been released. The problem is far-lfft prosecutors don't want to charge criminals so they allow repetitive offenders loose on the street. My state is full of DA's who refuse to do their job because "muh racism". Why are criminals allowed to roam around free to constantly assault people? Why are they allowed to break the law without any consequences? Police is catching them but what's the point if they're always being released? Some individuals simply cannot be rehabilitated.
@Porter90
@Porter90 27 күн бұрын
Crime in America is all-time high. Because of the crime epidemic in urban areas, Americans want more police spending, not less. Imagine that. It's clear as day who's committing these crimes & who suffers especially when police is defunded. This is a harsh slap of reality to accept.
@Anakhasacock
@Anakhasacock 29 күн бұрын
😂you vote to legalize drugs and enjoy the problems that come with it. 😂
@philliphessel6788
@philliphessel6788 29 күн бұрын
No, Cenk, “Crime is an injustice by definition” is a load of bullshit, and as a law school graduate you of all people ought to know that! Crime by definition is whatever the ruling class enacts a statute to make a crime. It could be opposing a war, or saying not nice things about Donald Trump, or being named Cenk. That something’s legal does not mean it’s just, and neither does being illegal mean it’s unjust; those are two separate domains.
@stecky87
@stecky87 28 күн бұрын
I work at a public library, and we've had some issues with homeless people, but the cops don't really have our back. It makes me wonder what we pay them for. I just hope they don't wait for something really bad to happen before they do anything
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
Why would you call the cops on someone who's homeless? Lack of housing is not a criminal offense.
@project_hominoid
@project_hominoid 28 күн бұрын
It shouldn't be a criminal offense, but the Supreme Court is in the process of potentially fully criminalizing homelessness very soon. Anything can be made criminal if you get the right people to say it is.
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@project_hominoid Yeah, well that hasn't happened yet, so in the meantime, we can only go by the laws that are currently on the books. Martin v. Boise has made it very clear - and other courts have affirmed - that criminalizing homelessness is unconstitutional.
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 29 күн бұрын
You misspelled prosecutor
@metalheadami123
@metalheadami123 28 күн бұрын
That is exactly what we were asking for. We said jail time doesn’t help criminals it only makes things worse. Policing arriving to crime scenes makes things worse, and what people need was social programs. We were wrong let’s admit it and fix it.
@starfishandroid
@starfishandroid 28 күн бұрын
I don’t think those things are wrong. I think it’s asinine not to be tough on crime while being compassionate on non violent criminals. But yeah, let’s fix it.
@djackson4605
@djackson4605 28 күн бұрын
@@starfishandroid Bingo! Its pure idiocy to skirt around convicting criminals. Progressives just refuse to be tough in any form, offering compassion as if its unlimited and without consequence.
@Demo5
@Demo5 28 күн бұрын
Overdose are inline with rises in red states /nation wide and arrests are down because arresting for low drug possession has stopped ....but the clearance rate on violet crime is UP because that's the crimes that are now prioritised ....but hay you can see homeless people (nothing to do with the increase after the pandemic right?)
@metalheadami123
@metalheadami123 27 күн бұрын
@@Demo5 the data manipulation and crime gaslighting from blue cities is crazy. TYT did a report on it recently. Majors and governors are pressuring police departments to only report a fraction of the crimes. Even then crime in 2016-2020 was much lower than now
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
I'm just going to sit back and read the comments from the loudmouths who have absolutely no idea what's going on here in Portland or Oregon.
@Silencedfixer
@Silencedfixer 28 күн бұрын
Not hard to define...Junkies, decriminalized dope...and radical political groups all in one area equals disaster. Simple
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@Silencedfixer What is your source of information about Portland?
@Silencedfixer
@Silencedfixer 28 күн бұрын
@@EgoSumAbbas820 Crime statistics, news stories, multiple serious anarchist situations and many people from the area.
@Silencedfixer
@Silencedfixer 28 күн бұрын
@@EgoSumAbbas820 Are you trying to say it's not an issue? When the cities voting base has completely swung against it?
@EgoSumAbbas820
@EgoSumAbbas820 28 күн бұрын
@@Silencedfixer News stories from where? What are your sources?
@joshsmit779
@joshsmit779 29 күн бұрын
Chess Boudin all over again
@dustycasanova
@dustycasanova 29 күн бұрын
Portland conservative judges are refusing to prosecute almost everyone other than the most extreme offenders. According to my lawyer, this is a retaliation for the defund the police thing, which even the police here spread misinformation about. Anyway, I was in court to get a "stalking restraining order." There are multiple types here in Portland. I Listened to every single casse get dismissed before mine, including a woman who was repeatedly, stalked, and even raped by a guy. There were witnesses. The judge let the guy off because apparently he didn't have a record of doing it to anyone else, and only raped this girl once. Another defendant ahead of my case had 38 separately reported incidences of threatening his neighbors both verbally and with firearms, and trying to run them over with his truck. The plaintiff said he and his wife were both clipped by the truck while walking their dog. They were called deep state operatives, and were told the next time they were spotted they would be shot on site. The judge let that guy go too because he hadn't physically assaulted anyone more than once each. 🤦‍♂️ I knew I was screwed by this point, and yeah. I was told the same thing. If you were only assaulted once it's not enough. There have to be at least 2 incidents. I like many Portlanders are at a loss. It's not really our DA's fault. He cant remove the judges that refuse to do their jobs. They like many others in the conservative right wing pull this temper tantrum garbage far too often. Like Congress shutting down under trump. It's just making things worse for everyone else.
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