Very cool video! One of my favorite native American weapons. Often overlooked....
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Eric Husayn Thanks. Agreed.
@erichusayn5 жыл бұрын
@@ObjectHistory welcome.
@Brickblox5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the time you put into your videos!
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
BarbaryBeast Very much appreciated!
@garynaccarto86365 жыл бұрын
As far as native american weapons go I think my favorite weapon is the gunstock club.I think the reason why I like them is that theres something about the way there designed which gives them the feeling of them being distinctively Native American.
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@eazeetv78033 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, keep up the good work and appreciate the work you put into these videos!
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bmphil3400 Жыл бұрын
My friend has done a lot of research on these. The native Americans saw white men using rifles and thought that shape was special and magical......so a club in that shape might carry the same magic.
@robertdean19293 жыл бұрын
Beutiful weapons.love the art work on sum
@ObjectHistory3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@hughgrection3052 Жыл бұрын
I kinda think they predated the actual gun stocks. If you look at gun stocks of the time many was more straight lined than the clubs where. With that being said I think they both saw each others weapons and combined the two around the same time and they evolved side by side kinda. Clubs and weapons like these must be carried at all times because you likely won't see the attack coming during the times before long range attacks was made possible with gunpowder and firearms in general. So let's think about that. Many of the gun stock clubs was worn across thier backs so they could have it at all times when needed. Strapping a straight line object of that size to your back isn't very ideal. Over time you'd be more likely to remove it and walk around and do things. The enemy as he watched would wait for that time and attack. So this design I think is just more comfortable most of all to wear. Then think about it's design. Many of your enemies would use shields or other clubs to block your club attack when you expend you spears and arrows and forced to use melee weapons in hand to hand combat. Having a crook on the design would allow you to reach over the blocking item and potentially strike thier heads. This is why we some people use fails, and things like stone headed tomahawks on flexible handles. Some of the bendy handle tomahawks don't seem effective at first. But I think that's a quality they had that gets overlooked. I would imagine they had some stone heads on leather cords too. That would seem like a very hard design to defend against. If you go and watch any native martial arts instructors and see how they show the way they wound up their attacks with these clubs to fake an enemy out, it's pretty impressive to watch and begins to make alot more sense. We today kinda see attack as single movements. Once you see how it's done you'll begin to understand how they can rotate the weapon like this to alter their attack, depending on your reaction to the attack. This is why I think the weapon is two sided. I think the decision on what side to attack with was made sometime well after they wound up the weapon and are in full swing already. Then instead of stopping the weapon like many do now. They instead carry on with the momentum into the next swing of attack. Doing so makes it hard to judge what's happening next. The blades and spikes have thier obvious use. But the edged knife portions have several uses. I think that even after you successfully block an attack they can be dragged back across youre body. Doing so can disarm you, or pull your shielding weapon down. When it's pulled down that is where the spike portion that looks like where your shoulder to go on a gun comes into play. It's there so when they pull your shield back they can do a quick jab attack. This works also if you happen to catch a hold of thier weapon. People using pull on the weapon in an attempt to disarm the attacker. The attacker can use this reaction of you pulling on it, to his advantage. He can fake pulling back as the enemy would expect, but then counter it with a quick shove, when he does you'd then be pulling the point into your body as he pushes it. So if you break down this weapon piece by piece and analyze its possible uses in a fight you can easily see how it's design is actually very well thought out, and why it can very easily have pre dated any guns. Then see why guns may have actually combined some of these aspects into thier designs. If you go and watch a native guy named "Bad Hands" here he gives some great lectures on how guns was actually made certain ways to better appeal to natives for trade. What designs they preferred and why. Even how they adapted guns to suit thier needs. Then when you hear stories of how they was able to reload on horseback or while running was possible. Pretty fascinating stuff, always learning. Good video!
@tigertone1 Жыл бұрын
i was about to say the same thing , we asume that but ...the aborigine were very inteligent
@davidgeldner21672 жыл бұрын
Look up Okichitaw there’s some info on how they were used. Held backward to block first with the inner “elbow”
@ObjectHistory2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it. How awesome would it be to train in that a little?
@davidgeldner21672 жыл бұрын
@@ObjectHistory kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fp1yir2km6eqk3U.html this is about the specific techniques but also goes a bit into theory.
@zw55095 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Reminded me of the scene of the cliff fight in Last of the Mohicans. Maori and Samoan cultures have similar, often ceremonial weapons.
@ObjectHistory5 жыл бұрын
Z Worm I was actually corresponding with the Maori tribal council in NZ recently as part of the research for my next book.
@kirkcavenaugh7585 жыл бұрын
I've seen some evidence that the gun stock design could predate European contact... the jawbone war club had a very similar shape and I've seen some south pacific clubs with similar design
@martkbanjoboy88533 жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with the obscure 'jaboney' club used by security staff in Native casinos in the Northeast.
@arkinyte132 жыл бұрын
That’s a good theory.
@Youngblood457 Жыл бұрын
A good example is the Fiji sail war club that predated European contact
@kirkcavenaugh758 Жыл бұрын
@@Youngblood457 that's what I was referencing too. It is an odd design tho.
@garynaccarto86365 жыл бұрын
As far as the gunstock club goes,the fact that it sweeps away from the target I assume would create a unique kind of injury that you wouldn't normally see with another kind of weapon not going to compare the seriousness of the damage of that other clubs because getting hit hard with any kind of hard blunt object is needless to say not good and thats aside the point but it's just that I imagine that if you get struck with that top portion that it will glance across it target as it strikes and will create a distinctive kind of injury but it's not like I'm an expert when it comes to that kind of stuff.
@kirkcavenaugh7585 жыл бұрын
You would strike with the "elbow" or the angel... I think it had the effect of extra force behind it
@arkinyte134 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting your skull cracked not receiving any medical attention on the battlefield dying slowly.
@chatayaismayilova63993 жыл бұрын
War club steel or wood
@ryanwalker18253 жыл бұрын
Dhanks 3:50
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@Youngblood457 Жыл бұрын
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@ObjectHistory4 жыл бұрын
Estuve pensando en estos dias como tengo que hacer todos mis videos asi.