Naturalism and Artifice, Thinking About Pictorialism

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John Thornton

John Thornton

Күн бұрын

My friend the photo collector Don Camera is a force of nature, and what he told me about the period in the history of photography called Pictorialism one afternoon touched on several points that I have been thinking about ever since. He also lent me a superb book filled with great examples. Is Pictorialism really over, or might it be ready for a comeback?

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@terrycraig3042
@terrycraig3042 14 күн бұрын
If anyone studied the history of photography they would never say they disliked pictorialism. Bravo for your wonderful video.
@richardcressey5854
@richardcressey5854 6 жыл бұрын
'Pictorialism is far from dead' It's alive and thriving in the advertising and fashion industries. If only Photoshop had been available to O J Rejlander and Henry Peach Robinson. This is a really valuable video.
@lyva
@lyva 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes limitations breed creativity :)
@geoffreypiltz271
@geoffreypiltz271 10 ай бұрын
Rejlander's composite photos are amazing productions. The Photoshopping of its time.
@letmebereal
@letmebereal 6 ай бұрын
Good stuff, love the music.
@gongorelocksmagiincommand
@gongorelocksmagiincommand 3 жыл бұрын
the absence of clarity and the kind of messiness that comes with this sort of photography is wholly indispensable to me. And I adore it.
@ahoyhere8113
@ahoyhere8113 Жыл бұрын
this is wonderful… put words to a feeling i couldn’t express, and taught me a bunch of places to learn more and appreciate more.
@JohnLarryGroff
@JohnLarryGroff 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you for this marvelous study that inspires me want to learn and appreciate this artform even more.
@divinerdetective44
@divinerdetective44 Жыл бұрын
Watching this 5 years after it was posted, and I love the style of this photographic genre. Your friend must have been a very good friend indeed to lend his book, I can tell you it's big bucks online.💲💲💲 I even can't get a copy through my local library or inter library loan, must be pretty special.
@peterhart8275
@peterhart8275 6 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful and informative film John, thanks very much.
@RoryPattonDreamerOfDunsidhe
@RoryPattonDreamerOfDunsidhe Жыл бұрын
Eye opening and inspiring. I think I need to study this further. I had never heard of Pictorialism and only found this because I accidentally clicked on the wrong thumbnail. Thank you.😎
@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That was a pleasure to watch. And to boot... refreshing compared to the hyper clinical look that most photographers strive for in digital.
@stephenlangton6711
@stephenlangton6711 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Don Camera for his insights and passions..and making this work come alive for us today...
@alexfxlll
@alexfxlll 2 жыл бұрын
End quote is beautiful! I couldn’t agree more
@elrico1364
@elrico1364 5 жыл бұрын
exceptionally beautiful stuff !
@lymemj
@lymemj 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am studying a Bachelor in Photography at SNHU and this week our topic is "Pictorialism". Your video is interesting and has many outstanding samples. Appreciate it! (Pictorialism will never die with photographers that want to be artistic, my opinion!)
@DanielRustad
@DanielRustad 6 жыл бұрын
Oh John, this is wonderful! You constantly open my eyes to new things. Or old in this case. :)
@JohnThornton
@JohnThornton 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel! I hadn't seen this before visiting my friend's house. I love it!
@PerMoenCaptain
@PerMoenCaptain 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great vid,so inpiriring for me.
@c10_c10
@c10_c10 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Very informative and educational.
@filmic1
@filmic1 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that. I worked my way through Whelan's 'Alfred Stieglitz, A Biography". This lecture is quite reflective of this. Haven't had the courage to dive into Edward Steichen's tome yet.
@BarondelaPlumeDorèe
@BarondelaPlumeDorèe 3 жыл бұрын
This is a must see for anyone getting into photography as an art.
@lordoftheflings
@lordoftheflings 3 жыл бұрын
wow. fantastic video. Thanks!
@smk1189
@smk1189 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job. Thank you.
@jensarne5773
@jensarne5773 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@JRileyStewart
@JRileyStewart 6 жыл бұрын
Helpful review. Well done.
@testcardII
@testcardII Жыл бұрын
These photographs are precious 🤍
@oldschoolcollodion
@oldschoolcollodion 4 жыл бұрын
That digital image with the coal maker, so good
@rodolfolarrea8493
@rodolfolarrea8493 Жыл бұрын
he is the funniest guy i have seen in a while … fantastics photographic work
@samanthacamera1544
@samanthacamera1544 6 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! I really hope pictorialism is not dead.
@MarylandDroneMedia
@MarylandDroneMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@johnmartin4650
@johnmartin4650 Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff……thank you…..dec. 2022 ..
@thomaseriksson6256
@thomaseriksson6256 2 жыл бұрын
Good one thanks
@arcofprado
@arcofprado 6 жыл бұрын
your videos have far to little views. This level of editing and research paired with stunning artwork merit hundreds of thousands of views. Your are creating QUALITY content!!!! Thank you!!!
@JohnThornton
@JohnThornton 6 жыл бұрын
God bless you Martin, you are far too kind! I love making my movies about art and artists, it is so nice of you to give me some encouragement!
@suzannabienkowski2033
@suzannabienkowski2033 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing!! Thank you kindly. I remember studying that one b/w photo, where a pepper is portrayed something akin to the human body. Or was it vice versa? Been too long really. Watching this body of work, again and again, I find I can learn something new every single time. I even shared it with others. Great job! Keep up the good work.
@geoffreypiltz271
@geoffreypiltz271 10 ай бұрын
Landscape remains the single most popular subject among the wider public.
@BrunoChalifour
@BrunoChalifour Жыл бұрын
Great reflection on Pictorialism and above all thank you for all the examples. Probably the first time we are allowed to see so many. But please, write the credits at the bottom of each image and not just a "partial list" at the end that does not mean anything as there is no way for the viewer to associate photograph and photographer. It would show respect to the photographers (and the law) and help educate your audience. Two little things that should be clarified: 1-Léonard Misonne cannot be "considered one of the inspirers of what would become Pictorialism. He started photography in the 1890s and only dedicated himself to the medium from 1896 on. Julia Margaret Cameron's work had long been known. P.H. Emerson had published "Photography, a Pictorial Art" in 1866. Pictorialist circles had already been created in Austria and Englan in 1891. In fact Misonne learnt part of his technique with French Pictorialist Constant Puyot around 1910 and carbon printing with the renowned Fresson (also in Paris). 2-John Heartfield's political collages have far more to do with the Russian avant-garde of the 1910s-1920s than any Pictorial influence. Some key arguments are that his work uses collages and not combined printing in the darkroom; it is essentially political (something that almost no Pictorialist was); it is totally anchored in contemporary/modern life (especially politics) which, as presented in this video, was far from most Pictorialists' preoccupations. I would argue that Heartfield's work has simply nothing to do with pictorialism as a current in photography.
@eljin00
@eljin00 8 ай бұрын
Pictorialism is not what the artist envisions but rather what the artist sees.
@sputumtube
@sputumtube Жыл бұрын
It's funny that many of these images can be re-created with even the simplest digital photo-software. I once used Arcsoft Photostudio 5 and created some very 'dreamy' images by just slightly 'de-focusing' and adding 'grain'.
@mark-de-leeuw
@mark-de-leeuw 4 жыл бұрын
Love the end quote ' Pictorialism is far from death'.
@suzannabienkowski2033
@suzannabienkowski2033 4 жыл бұрын
Agree! Most excellent quote, and one that I copied and will cherish, as well as pass on to others.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 Жыл бұрын
Never dead
@warpedmotion
@warpedmotion 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the intersting video. I am wondering does anyone know who created the image at 6:56 in.
@PeacePham1991
@PeacePham1991 3 жыл бұрын
Is it accurate to say that most fine art photographers do today is pictorialism? Of course the photos they produce now don't look similar to the pictorialistic photos from back then because we now use different tools and techniques (or use the same techniques but in a different way) but in term of the definition, we also do emphasis on the beauty of the subject, tonality (colors), composition, lighting... rather than just simple documented photographs, or straight-out-of-the-camera photos
@suzannabienkowski2033
@suzannabienkowski2033 4 жыл бұрын
And Luc Sante.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 Жыл бұрын
Abstract, symbolism
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I feel like I just want to have a beer with these guys.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 Жыл бұрын
No more bud light lol
@galerie291parisphotographi4
@galerie291parisphotographi4 5 жыл бұрын
Exposition PICTORIALISME du 27 octobre au 1er décembre du mercredi au samedi de 14h30 à 20h Galerie 291 Paris 32 rue de la Gaité 75014 métro Gaité
@JohnThornton
@JohnThornton 5 жыл бұрын
Bonne chance et Merci!
@sigvardbjorkman
@sigvardbjorkman 2 жыл бұрын
Photo at 10:11?
@sigvardbjorkman
@sigvardbjorkman 2 жыл бұрын
Any link to a pinterest board of these photos or something like that? Great video by the way!
@_H_2023
@_H_2023 4 жыл бұрын
This is what will kill digital photography, the desire to make everything so pin , pin sharp - 13:12
@withadogthroughlife903
@withadogthroughlife903 2 ай бұрын
Отвратительный голос у рассказчика 😢
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