Stephen A. WAS SHOCKED to hear this Kevin Durant & Luka Doncic HOT TAKE 🔥 | First Take

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Ай бұрын

On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Tim Legler and Shannon Sharpe join Molly Qerim to talk through who has the most pressure in the Western Conference. Legler thinks both Luka Doncic and Kevin Durant have the most pressure, which caused Stephen A. to verbally gasp before he places James Harden’s name on the list.
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@GenkinTheGoat
@GenkinTheGoat Ай бұрын
Ever since Mama Durant chewed out Stephen A his criticism of that man has SIGNIFICANTLY decreased lmfao
@taygoated313
@taygoated313 Ай бұрын
Facts bro. I've been saying this for the longest.
@Jordanbreezyy
@Jordanbreezyy Ай бұрын
This is incorrect, he criticizes him all the time
@mec0627
@mec0627 Ай бұрын
Yeah ever since then his biased towards KD shows in every situation
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Ай бұрын
and what if bron or steph dont make t?
@josephgreene4174
@josephgreene4174 Ай бұрын
😂
@Mr.Thomas_Anderson
@Mr.Thomas_Anderson Ай бұрын
Tim Legler is the man
@josenunez611
@josenunez611 Ай бұрын
Facts him and jj always cooking Stephen a
@IamNotTrey
@IamNotTrey Ай бұрын
@@josenunez611its the other way around lowkey.
@johncobraconney7153
@johncobraconney7153 Ай бұрын
@@IamNotTrey stephen A NEVER cooks JJ or Legler
@gtgayo8675
@gtgayo8675 Ай бұрын
How he just said Luka has he most pressure but also saids taht he wouldn’t get scrutinized if he averaged over 30
@marcosrojas4808
@marcosrojas4808 Ай бұрын
Hey Tom nice to see you again. Miss MySpace days bring it back cuh.
@Austin2Sexy
@Austin2Sexy Ай бұрын
Hardens got no pressure cause everyones already given up on him
@thekingofball2341
@thekingofball2341 Ай бұрын
LMAOO that's his fault and the other way around. He gave up on them.
@universe-ie2mk
@universe-ie2mk Ай бұрын
And then if he plays well and the clips advance morons will say we were hating on him😂😂😂
@onepiece6529
@onepiece6529 Ай бұрын
Harden is a certified loser 💯
@austingreen1274
@austingreen1274 Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@TheModernDayHippieDR
@TheModernDayHippieDR Ай бұрын
No lies here!
@fcc950
@fcc950 Ай бұрын
SAS don’t watch a single game of basketball from beginning to end. It’s unreal how clueless he is
@MrMathsimon
@MrMathsimon Ай бұрын
He's there to shout and scream. He's a clown designed to entertain and not to give sensical takes.
@jasonhoppe781
@jasonhoppe781 Ай бұрын
He hasn’t watch a whole game for at least a decade!
@spencerwhitsett9350
@spencerwhitsett9350 Ай бұрын
​@@MrMathsimonLmaoooo😂😂
@i3_13
@i3_13 Ай бұрын
He's just saying things for argument purposes.
@bigdawg1372
@bigdawg1372 Ай бұрын
Highly doubt any of them watch any games from start to finish, too many games when you combine all the sports they talk about...They watch the tapes/highlights and keep it pushing
@NewYorkBorn
@NewYorkBorn Ай бұрын
No one expects James Harden to win the championship, nor does anybody look at James Harden as a winner. We expect regular season James Harden, and we are OK with that.
@ike_SYO1592
@ike_SYO1592 Ай бұрын
People expect the Clippers as a UNIT to at least make the WCF. They have enough. That’s a championship talented team. Harden needs to show up, he CANT ride Kawhi & PG & others to a 💍 & not get scrutinized
@iamhorcruxer
@iamhorcruxer Ай бұрын
Lol he has a MVP and demands a max contract… you can’t be that guy and not have championship expectations
@datbo1jay1
@datbo1jay1 Ай бұрын
@@iamhorcruxerwe all know this is not mvp harden, he is a third option now so y’all can’t be putting these expectations on him like it’s 2017
@ReactNotion
@ReactNotion Ай бұрын
On god lol Harden bout cooked. We don’t expect nothing from that man nomore 😂
@sedohema
@sedohema Ай бұрын
Well, he's not a winner, and if you're talking regular season games, we'll then who isn't. Even a bench player is a winner at that point.
@AirParker23
@AirParker23 Ай бұрын
James Harden is the 3rd option on the Clippers. There’s no pressure on him
@jamesonedwardsii4943
@jamesonedwardsii4943 Ай бұрын
I’d say there is more pressure on hime and PG than Kawhi. We know what Kawhi does in the playoffs his two and three have to play well…..this team is small they have to have good guard play.
@Interstellarwork
@Interstellarwork Ай бұрын
As a mavs fan i agree with what you said. I feel like theres definitely pressure on the clips cause of all the talent they got rn but if anything james is feeling a lot of it. Like you said kawhi is proven and unless he stinks it up then he’ll be fine, pg will get the bag either way this goes this summer, but hardens career resting on this series right here to me. This is his 4th team in what 5 years, no conference finals appearances for him since 2018 rockets. Huge pressures on his shoulders and hopefully we have a great back and forth series
@amirihowell5312
@amirihowell5312 Ай бұрын
And? Even as third option you still gotta do better
@josenunez611
@josenunez611 Ай бұрын
@@amirihowell5312still nobody going to blame him when they lose
@amirihowell5312
@amirihowell5312 Ай бұрын
@@josenunez611 they will, it depends what he doin on court cuz when if he doesn’t give you facilitate on the offense to the help them or himself to get it done or when if KL or PG have an off game or more in any series and he still can’t step it up when it matters
@JL-gx6os
@JL-gx6os Ай бұрын
Legler is almost always correct in his analysis. Stephen A is always reaching for a new perspective and sometimes it leads to lunacy. Harden is not a star in anyone’s eyes anymore. He is expected to lose wherever he goes. Where is the pressure in that?
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Ай бұрын
Kd dropped 35ppg on lebron and won fmvp..who else would do that?
@Hi-cq2hm
@Hi-cq2hm Ай бұрын
@@xavierb9061Shannon said it best about that, KD had the US army behind him of course he's going to do well. It's like Lebron had a third world country army behind him.
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Ай бұрын
@@Hi-cq2hm ? and bron super team beat okc in finals
@jagers3895
@jagers3895 Ай бұрын
Its easy when you have 3 other all stars on your team. ​@xavierb9061
@JL-gx6os
@JL-gx6os Ай бұрын
KD just doesn’t get the respect his high level game merits cuz he took the easy road. Bron didn’t get the respect he receives now until he won with Cleveland
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Ай бұрын
lol we know ever since kd mom check Stephen a smith he don’t even wanna criticize him anymore 😂😂
@TopDrifter203
@TopDrifter203 Ай бұрын
Pretty much 😂
@xxfrank12
@xxfrank12 Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking, he don't wanna get roasted on Twitter by KD 😂
@Lildirt15
@Lildirt15 Ай бұрын
Bro he be on kd back yall tweaking
@fabo0913
@fabo0913 Ай бұрын
Big facts he lets that man slide odeee since then
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Ай бұрын
@@fabo0913 yeah it’s crazy 😂
@reddude5
@reddude5 Ай бұрын
I agree Luka has pressure. As a Mavs fan it's a good thing he doesn't ever feel it and actually always rises beyond it.
@Romcom_enthusiast
@Romcom_enthusiast Ай бұрын
Hes abt to go beast mode in the playoffs, especially if he loses mvp
@fellk7847
@fellk7847 Ай бұрын
he should feel the pressure
@LC-jq7vn
@LC-jq7vn Ай бұрын
His stats in the play offs prove it. He's got ice in his vains. Lukas saving grace is that he is still only 25 so people wont go to crazy because he has a long time to play and still young. Especially if he drops 36 and ten again and they lose because the rest of the team keeps missing.
@reem9317
@reem9317 Ай бұрын
@@Romcom_enthusiastthe BEST thing that could happen to the mavs is luka losing MVP, strangely
@ericheffner112
@ericheffner112 Ай бұрын
​@@Romcom_enthusiastEXACTLY
@ladyjaw25
@ladyjaw25 Ай бұрын
“We went from Playoff P to Pandemic P”😂😂😂
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 Ай бұрын
Not this again 😂
@ejgomes8311
@ejgomes8311 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@ebenezerindi1766
@ebenezerindi1766 Ай бұрын
Haven't heard the "Pandemic P" term in a while LOL
@djdarklyceum
@djdarklyceum Ай бұрын
When Shannon mentioned George i knew pand3mic P was coming 😂
@jamesjefferson3809
@jamesjefferson3809 Ай бұрын
I been waiting on him to say that. Lmaoooooo it’s been a while😂😂😂😂😂
@vinny8195
@vinny8195 Ай бұрын
Harden is well past his prime no one expects him to do anything, what is Stephen A talking about??
@BeFreeTypeMusicFreeMason
@BeFreeTypeMusicFreeMason 25 күн бұрын
Kd older
@NLWoodson
@NLWoodson Ай бұрын
Jayson Tatum absolutely has THEE most pressure, cause how many times are you gonna get there and have the best team and not get it done
@moseswilliams9888
@moseswilliams9888 Ай бұрын
That's a great point, I didn't even think of that, this segment is just about kd hate
@akashir5580
@akashir5580 Ай бұрын
This segment is about the West…
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Ай бұрын
@@akashir5580 still. celtics s super team
@robertbloom4424
@robertbloom4424 Ай бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me if the C's get swept in the 1st round.
@NLWoodson
@NLWoodson Ай бұрын
@@akashir5580thanks I didn’t catch that
@5iveRondo
@5iveRondo Ай бұрын
They was just saying the suns had the toughest 10 game stretch ever and wasn’t even gone make the playoffs, now they got the most pressure and expectations😭 They really hate KD
@jamargoodman7003
@jamargoodman7003 Ай бұрын
💯
@Schistomaisis
@Schistomaisis Ай бұрын
not becuase they wasnt gonna make the playoffs mean they got no pressure, they got 3 superstars and kd is supposed to be the leader. They mortgaged the house, car and savings, got $0 in thier bank account.
@trillycell3506
@trillycell3506 Ай бұрын
One thing u gotta know is the goalpost always gone move when they talk about kd
@5iveRondo
@5iveRondo Ай бұрын
@@Schistomaisis I’m not saying he don’t got no pressure but it’s just funny every time they talk about kd it’s negative, the suns just dominated the timberwolves and got the 6 seed nobody thought they was gone get and the narrative instantly changed to some different to make kd look bad 😭
@evankeal
@evankeal Ай бұрын
Whatever people say, KDs lost some of his game this year, turnovers are out of control. Until he stops just giving buckets on a platter to the other colored uniforms, hes under pressure.
@adrian-paulbrathwaite5338
@adrian-paulbrathwaite5338 Ай бұрын
What is Stephen A talking about? Harden is under almost no pressure, guy is just along for the ride. Under more pressure than KD? Legler is absolutely right.
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Ай бұрын
The only pressure harden is under is to make sure his sub ordinates dont go to his ATM and get single donominations of 5 dollar bills for the strip joint. You know he be stuffing a wad of Ones down the G-String like he was putting her kids thru college.
@MarcTheSparcTV
@MarcTheSparcTV Ай бұрын
Tim Leglar is the only real NBA Analyst I trust and respect
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 29 күн бұрын
He is decent
@Shaolin91z
@Shaolin91z 28 күн бұрын
Who cares. Who are you?🤡
@hdbuckets8154
@hdbuckets8154 27 күн бұрын
Windy?
@ethandosier411
@ethandosier411 27 күн бұрын
@@Shaolin91zwho cares? Basketball fans care ya dunce. Real fans hate when these other idiots get this huge platform to spew their idiotic nonsense and people who aren’t that knowledgeable but are fans, believe them and now certain teams and players get treated unfairly and THEIR LEGACY IS NOW INCORRECT. It matters man
@loganmisiak5573
@loganmisiak5573 Ай бұрын
Luka has all the pressure on him! Cause hes that good!
@dillatronic4757
@dillatronic4757 Ай бұрын
Luka has stress instead of pressure
@Thawk126
@Thawk126 Ай бұрын
Luka steps up to the moment, that has been proven. If Dallas loses it won’t be because of him
@guddagamez3754
@guddagamez3754 Ай бұрын
Bro we measure everything to Jordan so with that being said no player is not expected to win until age 27
@dillatronic4757
@dillatronic4757 Ай бұрын
@@Thawk126 Look softy, there is only one winner and loser for all series. If Luka wins, he wins. If he loses, he's a loser. That's it.
@jakjones8680
@jakjones8680 Ай бұрын
Luka is still young so he still has a couple of years. But Durant has to step up now
@212keith
@212keith Ай бұрын
Stephen a always sucking up to KD and his mama changing it to harden
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Ай бұрын
Facts it’s sad that’s why this show is a joke
@quegates5420
@quegates5420 Ай бұрын
facts
@iamhorcruxer
@iamhorcruxer Ай бұрын
Harden has choked many times in the playoffs look it up
@andrewsmith9040
@andrewsmith9040 Ай бұрын
Sucking up kd? They was just trashing him 2 weeks ago says he wasn’t even going to make the playoffs lmaoo
@212keith
@212keith Ай бұрын
@@andrewsmith9040 that doesn’t negate the fact that KD was considered 2nd or 3rd best of his generation. He hasn’t got it done without a all time 73-9 squad that came back 3-1 against him. That’s a L on his career whether you like to admit it or not.
@jsixxplays
@jsixxplays Ай бұрын
No way KD should have more pressure than Luka. How is it that the Clippers get to fly under the radar with that much talent?
@berryesseen
@berryesseen Ай бұрын
Easy. Clippers are historically unsuccessful. They are not expected to have any success. Trade Jokic to Clippers for PG position. It won't change anything in terms of pressure.
@danielmatu7639
@danielmatu7639 Ай бұрын
We expect failure from the Clippers
@user-vt4ie6de2e
@user-vt4ie6de2e Ай бұрын
Clippers revolve around Kwahi
@user-vt4ie6de2e
@user-vt4ie6de2e Ай бұрын
And we expect him to get hurt after game 2
@giovannygarica275
@giovannygarica275 27 күн бұрын
Luka is young and will have many playoff runs to come to prove himself. KD's prime is going to run out soon and he has yet to show he can win without the warriors. Heck he hasnt even reached the conference finals since he was in the warriors. He definitely has the most pressure
@CKay1987
@CKay1987 Ай бұрын
The pressure for harden with the clippers is like Jason Kidd with the mavs
@gabb815
@gabb815 Ай бұрын
How Kevin Durand under the most pressure when everybody say the team is not good enough to win it?
@temuphalgunreddy434
@temuphalgunreddy434 Ай бұрын
Durant
@danielmatu7639
@danielmatu7639 Ай бұрын
​@@temuphalgunreddy434😂😂😂
@siyabongakunene5052
@siyabongakunene5052 27 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂 It really doesn't make sense. All those Clippers superstars have the most pressure. 3 of them haven't won yet and have bombed in the playoffs. All season long, they've been touted as the biggest threat to the Nuggets. Now, we shall see if they live up to that billing. They have the biggest pressure.
@Itsjustlikemagic
@Itsjustlikemagic Ай бұрын
The most pressure to win should be on Dame! He forced his way out of Portland and is considered to be this “great superstar” that people keep on claiming him to be. Yet his playoff resume is worse than Harden’s!
@mattk720
@mattk720 Ай бұрын
I think the fact that Giannis ain't healthy will help to take some of the blame off Dame and Doc if they lose. But I agree wit ur general point.
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 Ай бұрын
Speaking of the bucks, if the bucks lose and Giannis plays. He’ll get flamed
@edgonzalez5381
@edgonzalez5381 Ай бұрын
Agree!
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 Ай бұрын
@@mattk720 yep, Giannis always making excuses by getting hurt right before playoffs..
@mattk720
@mattk720 Ай бұрын
@@vulcanraven9701 😂... I was actually thinking about the MIL Bucks organization and media when I said it...(not saying u wrong either tho...)
@SuhandiWijaya
@SuhandiWijaya Ай бұрын
Legler takes is the best on this panel.
@PGBVBY
@PGBVBY Ай бұрын
Molly over here looking like middle age Elektra lol 😂💀
@Darnellgenard
@Darnellgenard Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 she still looks good especially when she shuts the hell up and let them cook
@bdukes8075
@bdukes8075 Ай бұрын
Molly fine asf you trippin 😂😂
@PGBVBY
@PGBVBY Ай бұрын
@@bdukes8075 fellas don’t get me wrong she still getting clapped , buss down thotiana 😂😮‍💨 all dat
@poliquitit
@poliquitit Ай бұрын
This thread is insane fam 🤦🏾‍♂️
@denisako6493
@denisako6493 Ай бұрын
She's so fine
@elijah19820130
@elijah19820130 Ай бұрын
I actually agree that Luka should be under considerable pressure. This is the best team that he's ever had, they're more or less healthy, and Luka himself is coming off of the best season of his career. I understand that he's still young, but he's already one of the 5 best players in the league and there are certain expectations that's laid upon players of that caliber. Plus the Clippers are the team that knocked him out of the 1st rd twice in the past and that kind of history should add to the pressure as well. While I'm not sure that Luka is under THE most pressure to win the title, I think he should be feeling his fair share of it right now.
@jamesonedwardsii4943
@jamesonedwardsii4943 Ай бұрын
Yet he’s getting almost no MVP consideration…..sounds like an agenda to me.
@Thawk126
@Thawk126 Ай бұрын
We already know Luka shows up in playoffs and big games in particular. This series will boil down to perimeter shooting by non - LuKai players
@Hi-rp9jq
@Hi-rp9jq Ай бұрын
What about Tatum? He has had a championship team every year he’s been in the league. Celtics have had the best bench, depth, scoring, defense for so many years now. He has 3 all star caliber players alongside him now and he will be getting a super max contract worth 300+ million.
@Odhran2017
@Odhran2017 Ай бұрын
Yes and the team is still no were near denver celtics roster
@TrueGuardify
@TrueGuardify 26 күн бұрын
@@Hi-rp9jq Yes but unlike Luka, Jokic and Giannis, Tatum is American, so the NBA media will overlook his inconsistency and failure to win despite having the most excessively stacked roster in the NBA for multiple years.
@ezetram774
@ezetram774 Ай бұрын
Harden has no pressure because nobody believes in him 😂
@naeso9994
@naeso9994 Ай бұрын
Crazy how they're always changing how they feel like this is new information. 😂
@tigerhoods7927
@tigerhoods7927 Ай бұрын
😂😂
@Thawk126
@Thawk126 Ай бұрын
Durant championships be like if Luka joined Nuggets next year to win it
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Ай бұрын
would they win?
@heathbar1091
@heathbar1091 Ай бұрын
Not even close
@z7513
@z7513 Ай бұрын
💯
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 28 күн бұрын
That would not fit at all. They'd actually be a worse team. You either take the ball away from Luka a terrible shot up shooter or Joker. Joker is not a spot up shooter.
@VMONdaDON
@VMONdaDON Ай бұрын
So why does Paul George just skate by pressure homie has consistently been out early in the playoffs since he left Indiana and everyone give him a pass
@heathbar1091
@heathbar1091 Ай бұрын
Facts and he’s always talking smack about being a killer in the playoffs but the man’s been to one WCF in LA
@fabo0913
@fabo0913 Ай бұрын
Because PG ain’t in the same convo’s that KD & Luka are in. KD at least a top 20 player all time & ppl think Luka has a chance to be an all time great. PG nice he one of my favorite players for sure but he doesn’t have a legacy that will be weighed heavily if he has a chip or not
@jayysnaxx4506
@jayysnaxx4506 Ай бұрын
“People gonna forget about that in 48 hours”😂😂😂😂 I love Tim Legs man lmao
@angelatanurdzic7508
@angelatanurdzic7508 Ай бұрын
Amazing segment, thanks.
@NewWarleans17
@NewWarleans17 Ай бұрын
Just pay attention to Shannon Sharpe when he critiques KD he really hates him KD didn’t even lose in the 1st round last year & the Suns was the only team to win 2 games against Denver in the playoffs last year meanwhile LeBron got swept
@Jaywon977
@Jaywon977 Ай бұрын
He hates Kd cause he loves lebron 😂😂😂 he hate that Kd took over the league in golden state and caused lenron less rings
@giovannygarica275
@giovannygarica275 27 күн бұрын
He mentioned when he was in Brooklyn. 2 years ago, he got swept by the celtics. KD hasnt reached the conference finals since he left the warriors
@charles4830
@charles4830 Ай бұрын
ESPN bunch of hypocrites. Been blasting the Suns the entire season for ANY loss, yet when they won big games and actually made the playoffs, they bring up the “KD got the most pressure coz he joined a stacked”.
@martaviouspaul7117
@martaviouspaul7117 Ай бұрын
Hands down James Harden he forced his way out 3 times from teams and underachieved when playoff time starts
@stillballinmane
@stillballinmane Ай бұрын
Dropped 40+ twice and hit game winner in both games against Celtics, got sixers two of their three wins in round 2. If it wasn’t for that the sixers get swept.
@martaviouspaul7117
@martaviouspaul7117 Ай бұрын
@@stillballinmane did you see how he performed game 5 6 7 during those close outs
@kimjonghyun3471
@kimjonghyun3471 Ай бұрын
Yeah but nobody cares bout Harden no more lmao. There’s not much pressure when people don’t care. Hardens a 3rd option who even if he wins people want respect as much as if he were to win as 1st or 2nd option
@masiascharite6143
@masiascharite6143 Ай бұрын
@@stillballinmanepreach
@IzzyDenmark
@IzzyDenmark Ай бұрын
Then how would there be much pressure if his track record says what it says
@bastienweisbein4400
@bastienweisbein4400 Ай бұрын
Kevin Durants rings weigh less than a 1 pound pink dumbbell
@trillycell3506
@trillycell3506 Ай бұрын
So wait how much do Bron rings way cause he won with a superteam too. Actually lost twice with a super team. U people are very contradicting
@bastienweisbein4400
@bastienweisbein4400 Ай бұрын
@@trillycell3506 I’m not defending Lebron and/or LeGM. His rings are worth criticism too, but on the scale, they do technically weigh a bit more than Kevin’s. Maybe 3 pound green dumbbells but I gotta do the math
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Ай бұрын
35ppg on lebron, stupid
@bastienweisbein4400
@bastienweisbein4400 Ай бұрын
@@xavierb9061 must’ve been real hard getting that stat line with a team that had 73 wins prior
@trillycell3506
@trillycell3506 Ай бұрын
@@bastienweisbein4400 he average 30 on Bron in the finals of 55 fg % his first time in the finals before golden state
@raymondgarcia8101
@raymondgarcia8101 Ай бұрын
“Now they don’t run nothing but their mouth”.. lmao 😂🤣
@prince21781
@prince21781 Ай бұрын
SAS with a garbage take. Harden is no longer an elite player and has zero expectations. He is what he is. He may be able to ride khaki to a ring this year if khawi can stay healthy
@sibonisoduma5878
@sibonisoduma5878 Ай бұрын
I am a diehard KD fan and I hate when people diminish his rings but i guess it also speaks to his talent that we want more from him.❤
@skywalker2759
@skywalker2759 Ай бұрын
Everybody’s rings get discriminated against
@larrylindgren9484
@larrylindgren9484 28 күн бұрын
Two things can be true. You can be a great player and yet get two worthless rings joining an already great team.
@natureredux1957
@natureredux1957 Ай бұрын
Once a great Player has a certain type of injury, one can't expect certain things. That goes for Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard. Plus neither are Spring Chickens. So Tim really has ZERO idea about what he is saying.
@jonthesinner
@jonthesinner Ай бұрын
molly looking fine as hell after that vacation
@DEE_MON566
@DEE_MON566 Ай бұрын
If anybody on the clippers, it is Paul George. Kawhi has been best on championship team. Harden and Russ have MVPs that have them top 75 all time. PG has none of that yet and unlike Harden and Russ, he is not as near to the end of their career as those two. He needs to play a pivotal role in a championship to put his name up there. He has never been to a championship and his closest MVP finish was in OKC with a great season, but he needs more.
@butchapolinar2305
@butchapolinar2305 Ай бұрын
LeShannon always puts LeCringe name on every topic 😂
@TayloringSwiftly
@TayloringSwiftly Ай бұрын
“Not every ring carries the same weight” very relatable opinion.
@jackpalmieri
@jackpalmieri Ай бұрын
Those boys really hate KD
@Jaywon977
@Jaywon977 Ай бұрын
Lmao on god
@aumranshahabi
@aumranshahabi Ай бұрын
‘He called himself playoff P, but people can’t forget Pandemic P’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love uncle shay shay hahah
@DavidJones-zd7jt
@DavidJones-zd7jt Ай бұрын
The way kawhi slides under the radar in this convo 😂
@TheBouch33
@TheBouch33 Ай бұрын
I mean, Kawhi has 2 chips and 2 FMVPs with 2 different teams. He was there for the Raptors' first and only title. Any pressure on the Clippers is on the rest of those underachieving chokers
@jamesonedwardsii4943
@jamesonedwardsii4943 Ай бұрын
Because Kawhi literally has no history of underperforming in the playoffs….. PG and Harden do. Hell even Russ averaged a 40 point triple double in a series he lost. The other 2 guys can disappear any night.
@dparks2856
@dparks2856 Ай бұрын
​@@jamesonedwardsii4943 2020?
@TraySleaze
@TraySleaze Ай бұрын
@@jamesonedwardsii4943he choked to Denver in the bubble. Clips were up 3-1 and blew it😭😭. Doc rivers was the coach that year too
@dalewatkins2453
@dalewatkins2453 Ай бұрын
Seriously...? Kawhi has nothing more to prove. He's won a ring and Finals MVP on 2 different teams and is a future HOF if he retired today. If it's anyone on that team it's Harden, even PG.
@LysergiCoyotl
@LysergiCoyotl Ай бұрын
Hypothetically talking about the Suns making a deep run is hilarious Legs 😂
@NewYorkBorn
@NewYorkBorn Ай бұрын
At the <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="477">7:57</a> mark( when she turns his head at Stephen A ) all I could think about is that Bill Cosby walking a court turning real fast
@Monica72215
@Monica72215 Ай бұрын
❤️.
@Magpeccs
@Magpeccs Ай бұрын
Definitely agree with legler
@theronhuggins
@theronhuggins Ай бұрын
Why
@jamaalhooks8256
@jamaalhooks8256 Ай бұрын
Lmao now I gotta go back and watch some Undisputed clips of "playoff peepee"😂😂
@jaykal3716
@jaykal3716 Ай бұрын
Lol @ Pandemic 🤣 😂😂 Paul George
@zingisamahlasela
@zingisamahlasela Ай бұрын
Man, KD escapes criticism like no other. If Bron was on the Suns instead of him, it would be hell to pay from the media. Also, just because you feel one player is under more pressure doesn’t discredit someone else’s list. For me, it’s KD, Kawhi, PG, Harden and Jokic. Luka is just outside that list, particularly with Brunson playing the way he is.
@ojoj5194
@ojoj5194 Ай бұрын
bron needs to make the playoffs
@theronhuggins
@theronhuggins Ай бұрын
So bron gets not criticism with the lakers ? Lol put kd on the lakers rn and they definitely not 8th seed 😂
@Jaywon977
@Jaywon977 Ай бұрын
Lmaooo lenron under pressure for making the playoffs
@marshallchristopher1304
@marshallchristopher1304 Ай бұрын
Zing whatever if KD was on the Los Angeles Lakers everybody would be at his throat for being in the playin
@zingisamahlasela
@zingisamahlasela Ай бұрын
@@marshallchristopher1304 Dude, stop. He wouldn’t. He was close to being in the play-in, but the coverage has been about the Lakers.
@wesgarnett119
@wesgarnett119 Ай бұрын
KD is gonna be 36 this summer lmao the fact he's still in these arguments just shows his greatness
@Ghostbuster223
@Ghostbuster223 Ай бұрын
Sound like lebron right?
@curtisnero7388
@curtisnero7388 27 күн бұрын
Nuff Said
@wesleycuban8649
@wesleycuban8649 Ай бұрын
Legs and Shannon, cleaned SAS right on up 😂
@slicc1221
@slicc1221 Ай бұрын
Y’all really hate KD because how do KD have more pressure than Harden
@josenunez611
@josenunez611 Ай бұрын
Because James harden is washed we’ve accepted that fact that he ain’t that guy
@anthoneykarimbey6156
@anthoneykarimbey6156 Ай бұрын
Because any top 10 player in 2017-2020 would’ve won with that warriors team. KD hasn’t done anything more impressive than what harden has done without the warriors Be serious
@Humphking
@Humphking Ай бұрын
Yeah yeah yeah, just say you're a KD hater​@@anthoneykarimbey6156
@marcolopez6540
@marcolopez6540 Ай бұрын
Harden isn’t top 10 no more so it isn’t same as far as impact as if he would have won one in his prime nobody really cares about harden like that no more
@Stonecoldalston
@Stonecoldalston Ай бұрын
Because KD is a top 10 all time type talent as great as harden is he’s not KD KD rings will always count but if he never win again it’s gonna look a way
@demetriusmcknight353
@demetriusmcknight353 Ай бұрын
Folks be hating on KD so much we already SOLIDIFIED BROTHER ☝🏾
@sibonisoduma5878
@sibonisoduma5878 Ай бұрын
They don't understand bruh KD is certified.
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 29 күн бұрын
How lol he join the warriors to win
@denzowillis2590
@denzowillis2590 Ай бұрын
From a player perspective pressure is a product of Goal and Expectation. I'd bet that JH goal has shifted from ring to bag a long time ago.
@frankieseminara6560
@frankieseminara6560 Ай бұрын
Kevin durent has a lot of pressure, he joined one of the best teams of all time, top three duo of all time in steph and klay. Kevin durent has played with countless all stars and he played with three players who have been MVP
@sjay2177
@sjay2177 Ай бұрын
but Tim KD been had 2 rings no matter what
@marcroger8367
@marcroger8367 Ай бұрын
How does one been had something? I'm really curious, Make what you wrote make sense??
@thatsgame7480
@thatsgame7480 Ай бұрын
Exactly
@tanaa2x586
@tanaa2x586 Ай бұрын
But how did he get those rings? U could’ve put Paul George on that warriors team & they still would’ve won those 2 titles, warriors didn’t need kd, warriors would’ve been just fine with a slight upgrade from Harrison Barnes. Kd never lead his own team to a championship, All he did was join the best regular season team in nba history & just walking his to 2 nba championships
@sjay2177
@sjay2177 Ай бұрын
@@marcroger8367 from the verb to be.. he already has two rings .. hence he been had..
@robliberachi
@robliberachi Ай бұрын
@@marcroger8367do you not know Ebonics or English?
@4ktkaram395
@4ktkaram395 Ай бұрын
It’s 2024 Harden is beyond washed
@Clubvirg
@Clubvirg Ай бұрын
JJ would appreciate this conversation. He loves talking about pressure 😂
@pauljoseph3081
@pauljoseph3081 Ай бұрын
FYI Kawhi and PG were hailed as "ThE bEst DuO sIncE MJ & Pippen" yet underperformed since joining the Clippers.
@brooklynblack9015
@brooklynblack9015 Ай бұрын
It’s funny how Legler and most of the media diminish kD rings with the warriors but glorify curry for having 4 rings and they don’t discredit curry two rings with kD smh 🤦🏿‍♂️ it’s all about narratives and who the media likes and promote
@Josh-kd9pw
@Josh-kd9pw Ай бұрын
Because Curry has two wihtout KD, and was the UNANIMOUS MVP. KD was on SUPER teams multiple times in OKC,BKN, and now the suns and still hasn't converted.
@jakieresykes3644
@jakieresykes3644 Ай бұрын
Curry has proven he can win without KD twice KD has never proven he can win without Curry
@brooklynblack9015
@brooklynblack9015 Ай бұрын
@@jakieresykes3644 real hoopers and ppl who don’t listen to media narratives know kD is a better basketball player than curry 🤦🏿‍♂️😂
@jakieresykes3644
@jakieresykes3644 Ай бұрын
@@brooklynblack9015 KD might be a better individual basketball player but in terms of legacy Steph legacy is greater than KDs is
@brooklynblack9015
@brooklynblack9015 Ай бұрын
@@jakieresykes3644 not in my opinion I don’t listen to the media like you guys 🤦🏿‍♂️😂I know what I see with my own eyes 👀
@chubbymanism
@chubbymanism Ай бұрын
Molly stole the show fr
@thunderstar254
@thunderstar254 Ай бұрын
Down horrendous
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 Ай бұрын
@@thunderstar254yup😂
@romanosaraviadis
@romanosaraviadis Ай бұрын
Shannon going: "Mmhmm, mmhmm" 😆😆
@symokranky
@symokranky Ай бұрын
"Pandemic P" is just insane Unc🤣🤣
@thatsgame7480
@thatsgame7480 Ай бұрын
I mean, I don't even get how James Harden and Damian Lillard was in the top 75 all time and Klay/Draymond/Dwight Howard wasn't
@y2shuproblem
@y2shuproblem Ай бұрын
Harden was still a former MVP and 6th Man of the year with 3 scoring titles, 1 assist titles at the time, 7 time all NBA team, 9x all-star, and an all rookie 2nd team when he qualified. Lenny Wilkens made the 50th and 75th anniversary team and he had lesser hardware than Harden as a player.
@nazimbelaidi6486
@nazimbelaidi6486 Ай бұрын
Draymond!!!!! What are you talking about!!! Enough with the disrespect
@jamesonedwardsii4943
@jamesonedwardsii4943 Ай бұрын
If you don’t get how Harden was in there and one of your cases is Dwight Howard then you’re just an idiot.
@Young-ep8ik
@Young-ep8ik Ай бұрын
Harden should be. Dame hell no
@swarajthapa5798
@swarajthapa5798 Ай бұрын
Draymond? hahahahahhhahahahahah
@jamesleroy8797
@jamesleroy8797 Ай бұрын
I agree with KD but the Luka take is crazy, bro's 25 years old he still has his whole career ahead of him
@smokesmitty1
@smokesmitty1 Ай бұрын
Luka cries Kd takes his n keep moving… Luka be complaining bout everything but he does like this squad
@ziardsule7761
@ziardsule7761 Ай бұрын
Kd already been to the finals and won mvp at that age!!! Y’all be disrespectful to kd frfr
@SarrisDirk
@SarrisDirk Ай бұрын
I agree. Luka is in that stage of his career where I can tell he's still showing rapid improvement in certain areas--like defense. (Now, now, folks, don't laugh--Luka's defense has improved greatly this year.)
@jamesleroy8797
@jamesleroy8797 Ай бұрын
@@ziardsule7761 it’s not just about that he already won championships and fmvp. It’s also about how he left the team he won with and joining Kyrie and forming a new superteam along with Harden then blowing it up the minute it didn’t work out and the demanding for a trade to another superteam
@ziardsule7761
@ziardsule7761 Ай бұрын
@@jamesleroy8797yes but u wanna put that on kd? I see everyone praising kyrie like he wasn’t the one that caused all the mess in Brooklyn. Kyrie wanted to move James harden left.what would u do if u were kd? Stay and hoop with a bunch of carpenters?really?
@ravnicarises
@ravnicarises Ай бұрын
All pressure is on them! Jokic: scrolling thru pics of his horses
@sirboxalot6654
@sirboxalot6654 Ай бұрын
This will be one of the top five most valuable rings of all time with this stacked playoffs series
@KDG50
@KDG50 Ай бұрын
KD IS UNDER THE MOST PRESSURE!!!! Hands down. KD hopped on the GSW bandwagon and GSW won one without KD 2 years ago. James harden isn't expecting to win a ring and probably won't KD Needs to win NOW
@Rambo20244
@Rambo20244 Ай бұрын
ad might be under the most pressure
@2cents250
@2cents250 Ай бұрын
Hmmm the clippers are a superteam. Harden has a better chance than KD. Westbrook is coming off their bench and he is balling thats how good they are.
@Zephlynnation
@Zephlynnation Ай бұрын
@@Rambo20244ad won with Bron already he’s not and I don’t even like the lakers but that’s a fact
@deonterector
@deonterector Ай бұрын
No it's harden....I don't care if people think he's washed.Clippers had the best record since December through March because of harden,The clippers in February were first in the West so how does harden have less pressure with 2 guys that have playoff experience than Brooker and Beal. I thought expectations for KD by fans and media would be tempered after the Achilles injury but since he's playing how he's playing I guess not.
@GalacticAstroparticles
@GalacticAstroparticles Ай бұрын
10 teams with 10+ games above .500 is not only a testament to how strong the Western Conference is, it is also a testament of how strong the blatant tanking was from the bottom 4 teams... 😅
@Josh-kd9pw
@Josh-kd9pw Ай бұрын
Grizzlies were a playoff team until Ja morant go injured, the rockets were trying to make the playoffs, and the jazz were just floating
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090
@countfloydschillerhorrorth2090 Ай бұрын
Can't disagree with you there. But it's funny how the East has been the weaker conference for a long time. They have some good teams but Dallas would be 2nd in the east with their 5th place record.
@ricommg
@ricommg Ай бұрын
No way KD has more pressure than Harden. Clippers have the most pressure next to the bucks and Celtics. Suns def in the top 5 of pressure though
@babywatt1964
@babywatt1964 Ай бұрын
The games will answer everyone's questions enough of all the talk let's play!
@NewYorkBorn
@NewYorkBorn Ай бұрын
He’s only two time because of the Splash Brothers, he couldn’t do an OKC, he couldn’t do it in Brooklyn, and he won’t do it in Phoenix. He’s not a leader or a closer really
@noahmincey2530
@noahmincey2530 Ай бұрын
He is bro okc he was Brooklyn he was kyrie got hurt
@NewYorkBorn
@NewYorkBorn Ай бұрын
@@noahmincey2530 how many excuses are you gonna give the dude, so when he loses this time what you gotta say?
@NewYorkBorn
@NewYorkBorn Ай бұрын
@@noahmincey2530 if he never walked around like he earned those two championships, I would probably think different. But he acted like he was the main reason they won those championships.
@noahmincey2530
@noahmincey2530 Ай бұрын
@@NewYorkBorn it’s not a excuse kd just gets hated on for everything now tbh that’s all
@trillycell3506
@trillycell3506 Ай бұрын
Y'all lack facts when y'all talk sports. Kd won 4 scoring titles took his team to the finals at 23 years old while beating Kobe, Dirk, and Duncan to get there. With multiple western conference finals appearances. But he didn't do anything before GS y'all just be talkin.
@tyronpouncey5985
@tyronpouncey5985 Ай бұрын
KD , and Clippers for me. KD because he hasnt won since GSW nor before GSW, he has to get the job done. The clippers, The clippers brought that team together in 2020, and haven't gotten the job done
@thatsgame7480
@thatsgame7480 Ай бұрын
Not kawhi though
@smokesmitty1
@smokesmitty1 Ай бұрын
Even though nets looked crazy Durant actually had a good run with him dude was working
@smokesmitty1
@smokesmitty1 Ай бұрын
N suns the only team that beat nuggets 2 in the playoffs everybody else swept
@Jaywon977
@Jaywon977 Ай бұрын
lol you do realize what Kd went thought right ?? Literally a career ending injury putting his Carter on the line for golden state to 3 peats and that couldn’t do it without him .. 1st year in Brooklyn they wouldnve won he almost beat the champs by himself but kyrie and harden got hurt .. next year was Covid year Kyrie couldn’t play and harden traded .. them then the next year he went to suns … wym
@Dzad00
@Dzad00 Ай бұрын
I disagree that Luka has pressure going into the playoffs. The Mavs are 2 months into finally having a competent supporting cast. If they don’t win the championship, no one is going to look poorly on him, they are just going to say “Luka is only 25. Watch out for the Mavs next season after they make the finishing touches and have a full training camp”. KD has pressure and imo Tatum has more pressure than Luka. After being the clear fav for the season, if Tatum falls to win a championship with the team he has, people are going to say “He’s just not that guy”, “He can’t be a #1 and win you a title”, etc
@gabrielfonseca99
@gabrielfonseca99 Ай бұрын
pandemic P was legendary
@RozayZee-tp8bb
@RozayZee-tp8bb Ай бұрын
Kevin Durant already got 2 Rings. Eyes on Embid, Luka and Tatum to win the chip this season. 😊
@charles4830
@charles4830 Ай бұрын
Joel is excused coz of the injury. Tatum has the most pressure. No excuses this year.
@ike_SYO1592
@ike_SYO1592 Ай бұрын
Thank you Legler ‼️‼️‼️ Durant’s rings don’t really hold any real value tbh. He needs a non-Warriors championship 💍
@StryveTactical
@StryveTactical Ай бұрын
Over there bumping their gums lmao 😂 Shannon a fool
@Alk-rk6yu
@Alk-rk6yu Ай бұрын
The third option having the most pressure 😂
@garycummings6576
@garycummings6576 Ай бұрын
KD should be under the most pressure. He'll never be considered a top 20 great unless he wins a ring without Steph holding his hand. Last year people blamed Kyrie. Who are people going to blame this year?
@Molly-vm3mp
@Molly-vm3mp Ай бұрын
Ur an idiot kd is close to top 10
@andrewsmith9040
@andrewsmith9040 Ай бұрын
Kd is already a top 20 player brother lmaoo
@gabb815
@gabb815 Ай бұрын
@@andrewsmith9040hard to say that with Giannis, Jokic, and possibly Tatum and Luka may surpass him within the next 10 years
@trillycell3506
@trillycell3506 Ай бұрын
Kd a top 12 player bro stop just talk in lol. And last time I checked kd was the best player on them warriors teams. Steph ain't hold nobody hand
@ahoj4480
@ahoj4480 Ай бұрын
its obvious they gonna blame Vogel cuz Stephen A love his KD a Booker
@lilbutchy00
@lilbutchy00 Ай бұрын
When KD was winning with Warriors SA trying say he best in world. KD has never delivered b4/since SA act like it don’t even matter lol, if that was LeBron SA would never fail to mention it💯
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 Ай бұрын
Even if you strip KD’s rings it doesn’t mean he isn’t great. There are plenty of great players all time that don’t have rings.
@trillycell3506
@trillycell3506 Ай бұрын
Y'all lack facts when y'all talk sports. Kd won 4 scoring titles took his team to the finals at 23 years old while beating Kobe, Dirk, and Duncan to get there. With multiple western conference finals appearances. But he didn't do anything before GS y'all just be talkin.
@Humphking
@Humphking Ай бұрын
​@@trillycell3506bro they don't watch the games, they literally regurgitate whatever the TV tells them
@armanabbasi3754
@armanabbasi3754 Ай бұрын
And we act like KD aint 35 and didnt had career ending injury in 2019
@gmailgmail6234
@gmailgmail6234 29 күн бұрын
So his career over?
@K.O._Ninja
@K.O._Ninja Ай бұрын
That odds stat was straight up SLANDEROUS to the Warriors! I'm not even a fan of them but ballers ball and Klay been looking like his old self and the Chef is cooking.
@budgang3
@budgang3 Ай бұрын
Stephen A is right. It's clearly harden
@KillerTv90
@KillerTv90 Ай бұрын
I agree with Tim hands down them 2 players he’s correct 👍 nobody cares about Harden dude showed us in the playoffs who he is 💯 and Luka gotta come up and say he’s the man
@matamorostexas7238
@matamorostexas7238 27 күн бұрын
These guys are great analyst/promoters of the nba. Very impressive, they’re making me want to watch the entire western conference playoffs. Edit: is it them or is the western conference just that good?
@E2Four
@E2Four Ай бұрын
KD got rings, he’s chillin
@Hahaha97
@Hahaha97 Ай бұрын
How are they missing the fact that KD only played like 10 games with the suns before the playoffs and took the nuggets to 6 while they swept the lakers in the conference finals? 😂😂
@slickclick4390
@slickclick4390 Ай бұрын
kd was literally in the 2nd rd of the playoffs last yr idk what shannon talking about lol
@boondocksso8898
@boondocksso8898 Ай бұрын
And lost with an injured team to the champions
@Author_tank_thompson
@Author_tank_thompson Ай бұрын
And Paul got hurt they were playing the Nuggets tough too
@JamesHall_II
@JamesHall_II Ай бұрын
@@boondocksso8898They beat a Boston team minus Jaylen Brown in 21 & the Clippers minus Kawhi & PG. Don’t forget about that
@jaceygaither2581
@jaceygaither2581 Ай бұрын
They stole two games against Denver cause Book turned into prime MJ, KD was honestly very mid that series
@theronhuggins
@theronhuggins Ай бұрын
@@jaceygaither2581create a narrative 😂😂😂
@rodgetech
@rodgetech Ай бұрын
Pandemic P 😂 never gets old
@rell_5000
@rell_5000 Ай бұрын
Can't have pressure without expectations.
@JoC_N-Gimme50
@JoC_N-Gimme50 Ай бұрын
3 out of 4 names they mentioned. Were drafted by the okc thunder.
@stefanzlatanovic7521
@stefanzlatanovic7521 Ай бұрын
Tim is always right. I like how he keeps his composure and his takes are factually sound.
@StryveTactical
@StryveTactical Ай бұрын
It’s Kawhi and Paul not James. They have not done anything since they got together they have most pressure
@guga541
@guga541 29 күн бұрын
I can tell you who is more under pressure, that latex top! But no one minds I hope! 😎
@Koolkamjam_KKJ
@Koolkamjam_KKJ Ай бұрын
There are ALOT of players with a ton of pressure coming into the playoffs imo with Championship or bust!! This is gonna be one hell of a post seasons
@Jill-King
@Jill-King 28 күн бұрын
Stephen A.'s reaction to the hot take was so intense, you'd think he saw a ghost at the free throw line!
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