NCE SB5 Smart Booster - How To & Why, with demo

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DG Modelworks

DG Modelworks

9 жыл бұрын

I had a number of requests for more info on the SB5 booster and how I wired it up. Hope this helps out anyone looking for more info on this.
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@scottwendt9575
@scottwendt9575 Жыл бұрын
Great call out on using the PCP and power supply as a program track. About 10 years ago, I bit the bullet and jumped to the full PowerPro with two 5 amp boosters. I am still using my PowerCab as my main throttle, but I fell into the “must use everything” mindtrap some other competitor system users squawk about. As a result, my PCP is being used at a critical location at the end of my cab bus and the power supply is is providing external power to the cab bus. Now that I want to set up a separate programming station on my bench, I am trying to find an older version UTP and alternate power source for my cab bus, so I don’t have to do a rewire of the bus. To anyone just starting to expand their cab bus, skip the flat 6 wire UTP’s and get the CAT 5 versions. They are far superior and allow you to use standard cat cables from any big box or electronics store. NCE uses the extra pair to double the carrier lines so not only is the cable cheaper, it provides better signal with less power drop. In addition, it already has the LED installed and has 4 bus ports on the back instead of just 2!
@RogerVanParys
@RogerVanParys 8 ай бұрын
Good explanation... I purchased the SB5 several years ago and because of subsequent moves never took it out of the box...Now I am in the process of building my layout and moving onto wiring... Thanks for this fine video...
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 7 ай бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks for the support!
@ericb.davenport9762
@ericb.davenport9762 4 ай бұрын
This was excellent for a person like myself not very familiar with the SB5. Thank you very much.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@peterkmacleod
@peterkmacleod 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time taken to walk me through the next step in DCC for my emerging layout. Cheers, Peter, Canada
@geofftibble5897
@geofftibble5897 Жыл бұрын
Superb ,i bought a booster as part of a NCE setup that was for sale more by accident than anything else! No wonder ive had several offers for my booster the ability to move/relocate the handsets anywhere on the layout is a great unexpected bonus!
@toddfeldpausch9489
@toddfeldpausch9489 8 ай бұрын
Perfect explanation and visual representation!! Much appreciated! I just started my pike but i already know I’m going to want the SB5 and multiple panel ports around the layout to plug the throttle in wherever the work is being done.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
@davidwestwood9098
@davidwestwood9098 2 жыл бұрын
Great clip on NCE System. You explained everything throughly. Currently evolved at my local club building new layout from watching you video feel confident in what i have ahead of me.
@nobbyse16
@nobbyse16 9 жыл бұрын
Very good video Deryk. I've been agonising over what control system to buy for my new layout for ages, but watching this video has made up my mind on Powercab. The equipment is not mega expensive and I love the way you can just add bits to it as you expand. Thanks for the great info. Colin UK
@ingor.522
@ingor.522 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Deryk, Thank you very much for your great explination video of the NCE SB5 Power Cab System. Well I am located at Luebeck in northern germany and still using an older (very old) DCC Digital System made first by Roco Austria. It has lot of similarities to the NCE Power Cab system but with the differences of using 3 A to the track power but cannot reading CVs. The red cable wired throttles called Multimouses or shortened known as MM. Since GFN (Gebr. FLEISCHMANN Nuremburg) became a together Manufacturer with Roco Austria their together old DCC digital System are the same but the GFN MM throttles got grey color. That is ideal to use one of the MM as Master throttle together with the Booster to be the Command station with six wire flat cable. As slave MMs you can use up to 31 throttles but you need to split the slave connectors to operate more than one slave throttle. It is a weird Austrian system sometimes. The modern z21 system here has 3 A only but you can now reading out CVs but building consist addresses via CV19 is a little more complicated than with the NCE system of course. The white beginners z21 DCC System has the option to use a WLAN router as an additional option and as long as you don't using any tablet or android phone as your modern handheld wireless throttle than you cannot drive multiple traction units, easily. I am planning to upgrade my DCC system to NCE poewr Cab first and maybe later to SB5 pro cab. Still the price for a NCE power Cab is by around $ 250 and the SB5 Command station around $ 500 what still is wide above of my possibilities but I rhink it will it be worth than to invest more money into system which allows 3 A only per power circuit section. I run two different small modular layouts in H0 scale, one has the theme of an US based fictional roadname the Great Western & Atlantic RR of the Peach State of Georgia during the prohibition era in 1928 and the other theme modular layout is a fictional private owner Railroad based in the Imperial Prussian Kingdom in thf year of 1908 in northern Germany. For the prussian RR tge possibilities of the NCE power Cab would maybe enough, I think, it's a small layoug to operate mostly not more than 3 locos at the same time and not all are sound equipped. The NCE pro SB5 would be best for my modular US layout, to operate some double or tripple header steam locos with sound...well shorter oldtimer engines, only. Excuse please my poor british middle school english, I left school in 1988. Greetings from northern germany, Ingo
@johnk.4310
@johnk.4310 9 жыл бұрын
In the process of going to the SB5 to complement my NCE Power Cab. Your video has greatly enhanced my understanding and made me decide to go ahead. Thanks for the great information presentation of what it is, what it does and how to hook it up. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. I am new to model railroading and this type of help is golden.
@ericyoung3063
@ericyoung3063 8 жыл бұрын
I found your video as I was trying to figure out how to connect my SB5 to my new layout. I had a number of questions / concerns and you have cleared all of them up for me! I am now in the process of finalizing my wiring and will be able to run trains as I complete the layout. Thanks, Deryk!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Young Thanks Eric! I'm glad I could help you out!
@kestreldude
@kestreldude 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video Deryk. I'll look for others you have done. I have the Power Cab and will add the SB5 booster shortly. You've made my learning curve much easier!
@nateshon3eastbroadtoprailr448
@nateshon3eastbroadtoprailr448 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo. I have an NCE PowerCab and I have the PCP, USB Connector, Auto-SW, a screw terminal, power jack, and on/off switch all in an enclosure and use it as a portable aerogramme until I get my layout completed at which time I plan to add an SB5, an RB02, Repeaters, and have my PowerCab upgraded to wireless.
@cbqguy3426
@cbqguy3426 9 жыл бұрын
Deryk - I don't have DCC, don't really know anything about it and don't really anticipate getting it, BUT, your explanation was so clear, detailed and easy to understand I was able to follow it all completely with no problem. - Paul
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
CB&QGuy Thank you so much Paul. It's comments like this that make feel like I am doing something right. I appreciate this more than you know!
@timlaswell1088
@timlaswell1088 6 жыл бұрын
Almost bought an NCE system last week but I wasn't sure what the differences were between the different cabs. Now I understand thanks for the video.
@hamerhead2
@hamerhead2 9 жыл бұрын
I got the nce power cab recently and this is a great explanation for questions I had and now have been answered thank you very much.
@blakrootz
@blakrootz 6 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I subscribed to your page immediately. Enjoyed the tutorial video. Looking forward to other model train videos and tutorials currently posted and soon to come.
@ernieparsons1071
@ernieparsons1071 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tutorial Deryk. I am just getting started building a layout and have abasic NCE set but will certainly add a smart booster right off the bat just for the featureof changing locations while a train is running. Your explanation of the setup was easyfor a novice to understand. Well done!
@richardredcastle7911
@richardredcastle7911 9 жыл бұрын
My research lead me to buy a NCE system and a power cab to start me off. This great video answered some questions for me so thanks very much. I'm enjoying this build of yours so keep up the good work. P.S....Stop apologising for the shaking camera or the way you do things and other stuff, It's all part of the fun!!!! Stop apologising!!!!!!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Richard Redcastle Thanks Richard! I will try to stop apologizing. LOL
@luckyguy4694
@luckyguy4694 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, i have bee a hard core dc guy for all these years and now i am looking at going dcc. So looking at all the videos at there. You gave me some great info, thank you.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Jeff Dahlgren Thanks Jeff! I'm glad to hear it helped.
@matthenard
@matthenard 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Derek, I had a rough idea of how my NCE system could be expanded but I really didn't have a full understanding like I do now, so thank you very much for this!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
SLO70 Thanks! I'm just glad it helped out.
@NewHavenRails
@NewHavenRails 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. My layout is DC only right now but recently decided to go with the power cab because I have a couple of recent engine purchases were DCC / DC. But could not access to all the features. So my layout will be both DC and DCC. I have about a dozen DCC locomotives that I will finally hear all the sounds. I also decided to go with the SB5 and your video made my decision that much easier. Thanks for the great info.
@MARKLINMAN1
@MARKLINMAN1 7 жыл бұрын
OK Problem has been solved, i called NCE and it has to do with the CONSIST set up, what happens is the SB5 see's the ACTUAL consist 3 digit address and NOT the engine address you have assigned thru the PCP, once you know the ACTUAL consist number, for instance 126, thats what you call up when plugged into the SB5. Trains are running now as they should. Thank you for this GREAT video.
@spacecalander
@spacecalander 6 жыл бұрын
Just got mine, wow is it light, but it works great, i didn't need the instructions after watching this video. Thanks
@stevetee5076
@stevetee5076 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of the system. I purchased the power cab, and as an N scaler, probably won't need the booster, but your vid certainly detailed the benefits of an upgrade.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Steve Tee Thanks Steve! Always happy to hear that I've helped someone out.
@csxbaltimoresubdivision7746
@csxbaltimoresubdivision7746 8 жыл бұрын
your videos r the reason I bought the power cab system, great videos you helped explain alot.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kelly!
@kimolsen3297
@kimolsen3297 6 жыл бұрын
Good job! It helped me to understand the upgrade to the booster. Thanks.
@1066graham
@1066graham 8 жыл бұрын
thank you this has made it a lot simpler to under stand .When my layout is finished i will need a SB5 ithink again thank you
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
+graham day You're welcome Graham! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@chrisannen100
@chrisannen100 7 жыл бұрын
very informative. one thing though, I had my NCE system for about a year before I got the booster. when I installed it none of my locos would run. so I called NCE and they told me that if I had locos set up in a consit I had to clear them and then re-enter them and that fixed the problem. just FYI
@penn782
@penn782 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. It has helped me a lot in which system I am gonna go to.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
+Penn78 Thank you! Glad it helped!
@jimmyat460
@jimmyat460 9 жыл бұрын
Great video and very detailed. I started with NCE about 1 1/2 to 2 years ago. I couldn't find a lot of info on how to. Wish I had seen something the way you explained it. I'm using with 2 dumb boosters and I run consists with multiple locos. Again, Great instructional video! NCE should pay you and use your video!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Jimmy43 Thanks Jimmy! That really means a lot! NCE is a very nice system.
@rumblefish2536
@rumblefish2536 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Deryk, it was exactly what I needed! All the best. Andy UK
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@dannytice5400
@dannytice5400 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I have been trying to decide which power system to use. This video helped a lot in my decision. I don't have a huge layout but want the convenience of mobility without power shut down.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Danny Tice Awesome! Glad I could provide some information.
@lawrencerodbard4707
@lawrencerodbard4707 6 жыл бұрын
This was great! thanks very much. i have the power cab installed and working but need extra power. i just got the SB5 and am gong to install ASAP.
@BNSF9382
@BNSF9382 9 жыл бұрын
Deryk, that is probably the best video you have done. GREAT info!! This applies perfectly to me as I also use the Power Cab. I just added the SB5 to my wish list. I have a couple spots on my layout that I can't reach with the standard setup and it would be great to be able to move the throttle around the layout. Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences with this…
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
BNSF9382 Thank you so much Jeff! I am happy it helped you out and gave you some information!
@fbrailroad4628
@fbrailroad4628 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I found it to be very informative. I am looking at the NCE system for my layout. Thanks for sharing, David
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@chrishorton444
@chrishorton444 8 жыл бұрын
You were correct stating 3 reasons for the SB5 1: no need to keep power cab plugged in 2: upgrade in power to layout so more engines can be on the layout 3: ability to have more cabs connected up to 6 If you ever will have more than 6 cabs the. You have to upgrade to the powerhouse command station. Great video! You explain things very well.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris!
@tomstage4906
@tomstage4906 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Deryk. You can actually use either cable with the Power Cab when it's used in conjunction with the SB5. The coily coil is handier because it stays compact by design. With the 7' 6-contact cable it would be more apt to drag on the floor and become a trip hazard. The Power Cab doesn't care either way. However, it is important - as you pointed out - when the Power Cab is used as a stand-alone system.
@bradleytanner7230
@bradleytanner7230 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your video mate its explained all the answers to the questions I had to making my layout bigger. 👍👍👏😁
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍 Glad it helped!
@steelcityrailroadingproduc5128
@steelcityrailroadingproduc5128 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! Ill be posting some of my O scale Norfolk Southern Monongahela Line soon.
@railfan220
@railfan220 9 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Deryk! I really appreciate this video. I think that this will probably be our next DCC upgrade as I'd mentioned earlier. I've really only used one other DCC system and that's the Digitrax Super Empire Builder. Essentially it's the comparable version to this setup, and I really like being able to plug and unplug and have trains keep running. There's something fun about having to walk around a layout and hopefully you have a lot of fun operating! -Cam
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome Cam. If you have the money I would just skip the Powercab and go for one of their bigger systems to start with. The smart booster is just an upgrade for people who started with the Powercab.
@railfan220
@railfan220 9 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah. That's why I was confused at first. It didn't look like there was anywhere to go from the PowerCab (that's what we use), but the SB5 + PowerCab is kind of like a medium size DCC system in its own. And it's much less of a single investment than one of NCE's PH Pro "starter" systems.
@drewzdrew27
@drewzdrew27 9 жыл бұрын
railfan220 one of the great things with NCE is that just about ALL of there equipment cooperates/melds together. You can take the Power Cab (and the SB5) and use it on a powerhouse pro for example, it becomes a ProCab System.The SB5 in this case would just add another 5 amps.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Good info there Drew!
@railfan220
@railfan220 9 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thanks Drew. I really like how you can mix and match. The SB5 looks great, and as you say, it looks like you can add the PH Pro for a 10amp system if needed. Or if you knew you needed a 10amp system off the bat, you could do the PH Pro and DB5. ORRRR, you can get the PH Pro 10 (or something like that) that has 10amps built in. So many options! Thanks for pointing that out! -Cam
@rosskeane3938
@rosskeane3938 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Thank you very much. Keep up the good work... Ross
@johnbanicki7232
@johnbanicki7232 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Very good explanation of the differences.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@SeaboardCentral
@SeaboardCentral 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome Deryk! I use a Lenz system and it has Booster/Command station which is separate from the throttles. I guess the main difference is the NCE Power Cab has a lot more features. I started out in DCC with an Atlas System years ago and the Lenz system was a natural upgrade however if I was new to DCC I would definitely go with NCE because it really is the most user friendly system out there. Great informative video!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim, Glad it helped out. Like I told another user, if you are looking to purchase an NCE system and have the money, get one of the bigger systems. This smart booster is an upgrade for the Powercab, which is considered a starter system. Thank you again Tim!
@cossie118bmk
@cossie118bmk 3 жыл бұрын
super video dude ... i am using the hornby elite dcc controller at the moment ...... now i will be changing to this system now you have explained how easy this will be to connect ...... thanks 👍👍👍👍
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it helped!
@cossie118bmk
@cossie118bmk 3 жыл бұрын
@@DGModelworks just subscribed for more cool content .... thanks
@bbrockRailFan
@bbrockRailFan 5 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video I learned allot.
@1610nsb
@1610nsb 6 жыл бұрын
Great job, this is video is very helpful when I wire my power cab. Also thank you for Bills web page, he's working on my track plan. 👍😀
@YardLimit
@YardLimit 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks for doing this!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@lionellance
@lionellance 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing .. great video..thinking about getting that system for my first HO layout and putting in on my O gauge base and getting rid of the O gauge stuff. .
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Lance Weber Thanks Lance!
@themaddogyoung
@themaddogyoung 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Deryk, very informative! I liked how you explained everything very clearly. Unlike my videos I really need to work on rehearsing mine. I always get tounge tied or go blank lol.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
sdyoung Thanks Steve. Your videos are really good. And believe it or not, I don't really rehearse. But sometimes I have to redo it a couple times before I get it right, LOL
@woltar9
@woltar9 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Keep it up! Thanks for sharing
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
woltar9 Thank you!
@jericho7120
@jericho7120 9 жыл бұрын
Deryk, Just I am a new subscriber to you Utube group. with that said I just finished watching your FP40 project videos parts 1 & 2 which I liked. I Just wanted to say well done.... I have watched many many of your videos and have found them a real bonus, and though my railroad is N scale because of greatly reduced space limitations I still find many of your ways of doing thing in HO still pertain to my N Scale endeavors . I am working on a layout that I hope will capture the flavor of SP and UP railroading in the Cascades. time will tell. Will be following all your new posts and going back to review many of your older offerings. So my friend Keep up the excellent work andI will be looking for you further down the track. Bill in Irwin, Pa
@SouthBrooklynRR
@SouthBrooklynRR 9 жыл бұрын
I got an education tonight, thanks for this video.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill, like I told ole Bob, I hope you brought your #2 pencil. hahaha
@What_If_We_Tried
@What_If_We_Tried 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial. Thank-you...
@brian102256
@brian102256 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing video how to Deryk!! Lots of useful information. Anytime I can learn more about DCC I am better off for it! Your delivery and method of explaining all the connections was superb!!! Thanks for posting this...
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
brian102256 Thank you so much Brian! That really means a lot. I wish I could help you with your Prodigy issue, but I have no experience with that. Hope you get it fixed or replaced soon!
@brian102256
@brian102256 9 жыл бұрын
***** I'll keep you posted!! Thanks for all of your help!!
@devonevans
@devonevans 9 жыл бұрын
Great vid!!! I think your best one so far.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Maj Evans Thanks Maj!! I appreciate it!
@Sandlingjunction
@Sandlingjunction 5 жыл бұрын
Just buying one, glad I found your video. Spot on helpful. Thanks, Paul at Sandling Junction. Ps just subbed you .
@tonychudzinski3107
@tonychudzinski3107 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very helpful!
@andrewtorres4995
@andrewtorres4995 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@jmurph49
@jmurph49 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative I have a NCE system which I like alot.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
John Murphy Thanks John, I like it too! :)
@AllSortsOfStuff58
@AllSortsOfStuff58 9 жыл бұрын
Great video Deryk. This is exactly what I am planning to do........David(UK)
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
MrChoochoo50 Thanks David!
@skipduld3630
@skipduld3630 9 жыл бұрын
I have DIGATRAX AND Im eletriction so I understand what ur saying. Instead of buying all them RJ 12 I would make my own . Tks for the VEDIO ur doing exly the way DIGATRAX SAYS ABOUT IT.
@cabincreek1692
@cabincreek1692 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! You are welcome!
@drewzdrew27
@drewzdrew27 9 жыл бұрын
Hey great video!! Yes you can just plug in the USB interface into the booster - or any of the jacks you plug a cab into. Because the system treats the USB interface as any other throttle.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought Drew! Thanks for the verification.
@drewzdrew27
@drewzdrew27 9 жыл бұрын
no problem! Not going to lie I am really excited for you!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
drewzdrew27 Thanks Buddy!
@Rebecca_The_Dragon
@Rebecca_The_Dragon 8 жыл бұрын
@DG Modelworks you CAN have a program track! There is a little chip you can buy from NCE that goes between the track out on the booster and the track, and it divides up the signal and tells the controller that there is a program track port, allowing you to use its program track function.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. What is the part # of this 'little chip'? Please enlighten me! The NCE Auto Switch (part# 524-226) will NOT work with the SB5. The AutoSW is designed to be used with the Powercab in the original starter set configuration only.This will not work with the SB5 because the SB5 does not have a programming track output or programming track capabilities. Therefore it cannot activate the AutoSW. ncedcc.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203363299-AutoSW-does-not-work-with-SB5
@Rebecca_The_Dragon
@Rebecca_The_Dragon 8 жыл бұрын
+DG Modelworks yikes! glad you posted this before i bought my set. But wait, then can i use the auto sw with the original faceplate and setup a programming/test track in my shed? ps, sorry if i caused any aggrovation, i just was trying to be helpful.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
+5dmc1 Not a problem buddy. Sorry if I came across harshly. Usually people like to criticize my work. You can use the Auto Switch with the Powercab setup. Just not with the SB5. So yes your idea will work.
@Rebecca_The_Dragon
@Rebecca_The_Dragon 8 жыл бұрын
+DG Modelworks no worries. Dont listen to what other people critisize, the only person who should be happy with your layout is you. Anyway, i subbed, and i look forward to the next layout update.
@Rebecca_The_Dragon
@Rebecca_The_Dragon 8 жыл бұрын
+DG Modelworks do you know if the SB5 can connect to the computer for use with JMRI and other programs to run stuff on the layout?
@Rarawer
@Rarawer 9 жыл бұрын
cool demonstration of the NCE Controlstuff ! We use Digitrax
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
Rarawer Thanks Matthias! Digitrax is cool too..!
@robby062
@robby062 4 жыл бұрын
I upgraded to the SB5 for the ability to have the walk around. Even though I have a small layout and will only have 3 panels at the most and will have one or two friends who will be able to operate as well.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 4 жыл бұрын
That's mainly why I did it also.
@Superseanbarry
@Superseanbarry 8 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@jimkammerer8028
@jimkammerer8028 6 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative and helpful great to watch it. Jim Kammerer.
@seanpacificrailroad3700
@seanpacificrailroad3700 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you I just bought one and I can’t figure this out so the PCP panel I have I won’t be using that anymore and I have to buy UTP panel so this will work correctly
@paulmacey9084
@paulmacey9084 7 ай бұрын
brilliant thanks this really helps me thanks
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 7 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@modelrailer
@modelrailer 9 жыл бұрын
Great video my man! Well done. Again made it look easy. Very cool video. Keep it up! Later, John
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
model railer Thanks John! And thanks for suffering through such a long video.
@modelrailer
@modelrailer 9 жыл бұрын
***** no suffering here. I always wanted NCE! Now I really want it. Haha
@PhillipMcCallum
@PhillipMcCallum 9 жыл бұрын
Great video well done just brought a sb5 and was jittery about how too , thanks you
@JohnAPrescott
@JohnAPrescott 9 жыл бұрын
First off, GREAT video, D. VERY useful information here. Even answered a couple of my questions I had about the system. Any particular reason you chose not to go with the wireless controller other than cost? Second, looking around during your video, I noticed well, I think i noticed you have concrete floors in the room? I would (after the layout is done of course) put some carpet down there even if it's just piece-mealed together. It's amazing what a few pieces of carpet can do for you to help keep some heat in the room and plus it' would be better for your feet as well instead of the cold hard concrete all the time. I have done this in my writing office, and it has helped tremendously. It doesn't fill up the whole room but only a portion and I just went to the local carpet place and ask if they had any scraps of carpet they were going to throw away...man you would NOT BELIEVE the amount you can come home with...it's almost scary. Anywho, GREAT GREAT vid on this one buddy. Looking forward to the next one! Best, John
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
John Prescott Thanks John! You are correct about the cost being the main factor with not going wireless. Plus...with the size of my layout and the possibility of op sessions with more than one person, the booster was something that surely won't go to waste. I still might go wireless in the future, but I also might just use some cheap tablets. Time will tell. I also agree with your carpet suggestion. That is something I will definitely have to do! Thanks for the kind words my friend! Take care!
@cprtrain
@cprtrain 6 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@markcovey1636
@markcovey1636 2 жыл бұрын
Great information, the best I have seen on the SB5! Just to clarify the UTP panels form the SB5 do not need to be powered independently like the original panel on the Power Cab?
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 2 жыл бұрын
That is correct....They get their power from the SB5 Thanks!
@stevemazzoli9014
@stevemazzoli9014 8 жыл бұрын
I'm using the NCE power cab
@pedropons2040
@pedropons2040 9 жыл бұрын
thanks, great job but I have a question. I will have a 5X9 N gauge and I will be the only operator. At most I will run 4 trains max. As such do you think I will need a SB5 smart booster? I willl also have a couple of turnouts working via my power cab. Thanks
@skipduld3630
@skipduld3630 5 жыл бұрын
THE VID IS ( HOW TO USE DC AND DCC ON THE SAME LAYOUT ) JAN. 19. 2015 WHICH HE TALKS ABOUT THE AUTO SWITCH FOR NCE. LOOK IT UP . TKS A LOT.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info...Mike Fifer is a really great guy!
@n-scaleunionpacificevansto6569
@n-scaleunionpacificevansto6569 9 жыл бұрын
Deryk, thanks for this and your other great videos. They are really helpful, and I really appreciate them. A question: This video suggests that you have not divided your layout up into power districts. That is, I don't see a CP6 with bus wires running to separate areas of the layout. Do you feel this isn't necessary on your layout? (When finished, my layout will fill up the better part of a 10' by 12' room, and I have been planning on dividing it up into 4 power districts.) Thanks again for your great videos. ...Roy
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
N-Scale Union Pacific Evanston Subdivision Thanks Roy. I actually considered breaking it up into power districts, but decided to not do it. Some people may disagree with my decision, and I may end up regretting it later on. I don't know. The main reason for my decision, is 99% of the time it will just be me operating, so if I have a derail that causes a short, I'm only hurting myself and not everyone else operating. I didn't feel the extra wiring was worth it at this time. It may be something I revisit as the layout progresses.
@spacecalander
@spacecalander 6 жыл бұрын
I need to order those panels, but they stock one works just pull out power supply plug and hook up just like you showed and it works.
@stevemazzoli9014
@stevemazzoli9014 8 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Broadway Limited E8'S lashed up, that's all I have running the non sound dcc run ok , but the e8 's start and stop , do you think I need more track voltage?
@Zebrails
@Zebrails 6 жыл бұрын
You've actually gave more than three reasons. Quite importantly to many people, moving from the PowerCab to the Smart Booster 5, the unplugging 3:50 and replugging while your train keeps rolling is key. With a large layout, you'd need a brakeman to flip manual switches with a Power Cab, or, you'd have to stop your train every time you switch and uncouple if you were alone. And, furthermore, you can now obtain a UTP CAT5 Panel that allows one to use CAT5 cables... used for previous internet computer connections. You may need to update your RJ12/Accessory Link to: www.midwestmodelrr.com/product-category/dcc-2/dcc-accessories/ Just an extra step/click.
@CarmineRC
@CarmineRC 8 жыл бұрын
Nice review and description! the SB5 is definitely the best, and the natural first upgrade for the Power Cab. Operations ARE a little easier when your Power Cab becomes a Pro Cab, essentially, and doesn't always have to be plugged in. IMHO, you could even expand your original Power Cab some more, with one or two DB5 "Dumb Boosters". After that - if you need more than 15 continuous amps.... It may be time for some rewiring on your HOUSE! :O
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carmine! Until I have more people doing op sessions, the single SB5 should be all the power I will need. I DO wish I had wireless throttles though.
@CarmineRC
@CarmineRC 8 жыл бұрын
+Deryk Glass I couldn't imagine you needing more than one DB5 - and no time soon... I wouldn't mind going wireless myself, but I don't see having the funds... But then, I'm still not sure about what I'm doing with my Layout anyway! :P
@britblad
@britblad 9 жыл бұрын
The NCE/USB dose have some limitations but from what i see that you are doing at the moment i dont think it would affect you unless you plan to use something like the AIU-01
@johnmurphy2226
@johnmurphy2226 9 жыл бұрын
deryk, great how to video
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
john murphy Thanks John!
@christophergalvan8
@christophergalvan8 5 жыл бұрын
On you UTP panels that go around your layout, do you need to have extra wall warts plugged in or can you just have them running like you show in this video
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 4 жыл бұрын
The UTP panels just daisy chain. No wall worts or power is run to them.
@2702disi
@2702disi 7 жыл бұрын
About the 13:38 mark you talk about how you cut your bus in half to mount your power cab halfway through. Do you have a diagram for that?
@michaelwright185
@michaelwright185 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! How many locomotives were you able to run at once with the original Power Cab alone and at what speed? Have any lighted or sound cars? Planning a new layout and trying to determine how much power (amps) it will really need based on real world measurements and not assumptions!
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks Жыл бұрын
I never had more than 3 locos running at the same time without a booster, and it was just fine. I never figured out how many it would handle.
@christophergalvan8
@christophergalvan8 5 жыл бұрын
Have a quick ?, Just received my pro cab an hooked all as shown with my ESU/ DCC Ferromex an it keeps bringing up something about CV? Was wondering be if I could get some tips or info on what I need to do. Thanks an much appreciated.
@ambosd11
@ambosd11 5 жыл бұрын
When daisy chaining the UTPs, do you use a 6P6C (six-wire) flat cable between each UTP? Or, do you only need 4P4C (four-wire) cables since the track power is provided by the SB5?
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 5 жыл бұрын
You need to use the 6 wire when daisy chaining the UTP panels. The 4 wire cable is used to connect your powercab handheld to the panels.
@Superseanbarry
@Superseanbarry 3 жыл бұрын
Great job my friend! Don't be sorry :D
@atmocheaptricks
@atmocheaptricks 6 жыл бұрын
some of my trains work in the wrong direction on powercab have not work out how to change cv for this Help
@rvooyen
@rvooyen 9 жыл бұрын
Did you check the option to use wireless for moving round the layout? Saves a lot on wiring. Depends on the system used I guess. Robert.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
robert van ooyen Yes I have, but for now this was the cheaper solution. I would need a wireless base station and then a wireless throttle. I still might do that down the road, depending on my finances.
@stuartgillis2867
@stuartgillis2867 6 жыл бұрын
Can I get more information on the bus lines I'm new to this whole DCC thing and I need a understanding on bus lines and feeders thanks
@FJS-dc4zu
@FJS-dc4zu 3 ай бұрын
Will this add speed to the locos? with my power cab trains are just slow.
@jeffreyfleisher4624
@jeffreyfleisher4624 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. I recently purchased a SB5 for pretty much the same reasons as you did. I have a question....are you using any NCE EB1 circuit breakers in your layout? I have a couple of reverse loops which use PSX-AR reverse control boards and they have circuit breakers built. The NCE literature recommends circuit breakers in addition to the SB5 so I was going to use some in the blocks/sections that are not protected by the PSX-ARs. What are your thoughts about the use of external circuit breakers like the EB1s?
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Right now I haven't installed any circuit breakers yet. I think it's a good thing to do though.
@scottwendt9575
@scottwendt9575 Жыл бұрын
They are actually quite important to protect your SB5 booster/command station! The built in automatic breaker is designed to only protect your SB5, however hard faults can put a lot of stress on the breaker and can cause eventual failure and a costly replacement. It also does little to protect the rest of your system. By using an EB1, you can set a lower threshold to help protect other devices. You can program it for manual reset during troubleshooting and avoid the constant cycling that would eventually burn out the SB5 breaker. EB1s allow you to set up districts, so you don’t shut down the whole layout when something shorts during an operating session. And lastly, if you do have a catastrophic failure that destroys a breaker, the EB1 is much cheaper to replace and you will only lose the operation of one part rather than the whole system if you had to replace your Booster.
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks Жыл бұрын
Use the NCE EB1 circuit breakers for sure! Here is a video I made after this one...I learned the hard way. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rqeVZ5Ca3LORhas.html
@csxbaltimoresubdivision7746
@csxbaltimoresubdivision7746 8 жыл бұрын
thanks
@w.r.monger8747
@w.r.monger8747 5 жыл бұрын
Once you program on a track separated from the mainline, which has the booster, is the info you changed on the loco still retained once go from program (pro cab) to mainline (booster)? Trying to start my own layout once I'm finally home. I want to buy NCE CB's but no one has a video on how you would set them up or separate into districts. Do you need 2 for each district? One on each end?
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 5 жыл бұрын
Once you program your loco, all that info is stored on the decoder inside the loco, so it will be retained. You can run differen't power districts with just one booster or cab.
@MARKLINMAN1
@MARKLINMAN1 7 жыл бұрын
Well I am having an issue, I have it plugged in directly to the unit and I can turn on the lights to the locos, but when I throttle up.....Nothing! I can't get them to move. I def have power on the track because if I didn't I would NOT be able to control the headlights. I am using the curly cord and NOT the flat cord, so I know I am doing it correctly. Could it be that I have the locos set up as a consist? I doubt it, but just wondering.
@chrisannen100
@chrisannen100 7 жыл бұрын
MARKLINMAN1 yes clear the consists on the test track and that will correct the problem.
@GandZscale
@GandZscale 9 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm just getting into N Scale and still waiting on my powercab to arrive. I am considering getting a SB5 to use to power my LGB layout. Any reason you didn't go for a wireless option?
@DGModelworks
@DGModelworks 9 жыл бұрын
GandZscale Thanks! I didn't go with the wireless option because I would have to purchase the base station and the wireless throttle. And I would have needed the booster eventually anyways. I can still do wireless later on.
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