likewise!

Defence is preferred over hp , 15/14/14 would be better

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honestly think they're on par, dawn wings being the better sweeper and dusk mane the better safeswap, or being safer in general

no! 14 defense loses a bulkpoint vs Origin Palkia, making it a harder loss (losing the 0s too)

@@Inadequance damn that sucks. The only other "good one" i got was a 14/15/15. Would either of them be worth powering up at least for dusk mane then?

15 attack is ALWAYS mandatory. 15/15/14 works for dusk, but a hundo for Dawn is mandatory to win Gyarados in the 0s

@@Inadequanceonly reason I asked is because in the sims it looks like the ONLY difference is in the gyarados 0 shield scenario. I’m not sure if I was going the research correctly but it seemed like the 14/15/15 functioned nearly identically to the hundo. (I didn’t get a hundo and I’m coping)

@@crispy8295 14/15/15 will always lose the mirrors and Dusk mane (which normally would be a coinflip on even energy), so I personally would not advise it. Should you consider doing so anyway then you probably want to never lead it or try to catch where it would be CMP

​@@Inadequance It only matters in 1 shield vs duskmane, and in zero shield vs both necrozma forms. So if you run as a sweeper it's probably going to matter in like 1 in 10 thousand matches (considering hundo has a 50% chance to lose the same way) and alignment needs to be perfect and the other guy needs to have a hundo etc. etc. Could also just best buddy it most people won't best buddy their necrozma. I honestly doubt it will significantly impact success for dawn wings. Dusk mane is not a coin flip it survives a dark pulse and dawn does not so it always wins the zeros and the 2 shield and only flips coin on 1 shield. vs mirror if u commit a shield you both farm each other down so again it will almost never matter.

@@greglaycock9405 'it only matters in 1 shield vs dusk and 0 vs both' is not exactly to be dismissed. But you do you if you want to throw away the possibility of using an equal performing necrozma in the lead. Would not be worth my dust

About 40 dollars to get both with all the research events etc. but yea if ur not lucky getting 2 hundos is ridiculous. It's stupid that there's no way to increase Ivs. Niantic never will cuz money but it would be a much better game if you could pay like 500k stardust and 500 candy for 1 IV.