If you guys find any inaccuracies with this video, please drop a comment and let me know so I can attach them to this comment! - The Greater Will was not an outer god. Apparently he's in his OWN TIER, so we've got like... four layers of god tiers going on here. - Messmer was actually OLDER than Radahn, so he was born before him. Who is the dad? Nobody knows. - Caelid only seemed to get the scarlet rot outbreak AFTER Melania's fight with Radahn!
@chrisdepountis3430Ай бұрын
About Messmer's parentage, I'd say that Radagon is his father because Radagon's leitmotif can be found in Messmer's ost but without the melody that symbolizes the Elden Ring since Messmer is spurned from grace. But he definitely is older than Radahn so this makes the timeline a little fuzzy.
@lololoАй бұрын
@@chrisdepountis3430 Probably a bastard child, born to Marika and Radagon before she married Godfrey. Another possibility is that Messmer is Godfrey's son, but the only connection I can make between the 2 of them is the fact that Messmer's soldiers have a stomp attack that's reminiscent of Godfrey's.
@davidmingle5910Ай бұрын
messmer is almost certainly the son of radagon (red hair, fire, name), and older brother of melina, both having one closed eye and a kindling inside them.
@humbleservant7797Ай бұрын
@@chrisdepountis3430im glad you are that analytical but that just sounds like a bad reason to start with. Maybe start with red hair ?
@chrisdepountis3430Ай бұрын
@@humbleservant7797 I thought the red hair made it too obvious. Plus I'd say it's a reasonable point since the same goes for most characters' themes in the Dlc. They share leitmotifs with other characters they're connected to (Rellana with Rennala, Midra with the nomadic merchant theme, Bayle with Placidusax's 2nd phase, Romina with Malenia). I guess the other two characteristics that hint at Messmer's father being Radagon would be the red hair, as you mentioned, and the fact that he too suffers from an ailment like Miquella and Malenia.
@mihirlavandeАй бұрын
The writers weren't on coke. It was just George RR Martin doing his best to avoid writing Winds of Winter.
@b1bbscraz3yАй бұрын
lmaoo
@theesper7404Ай бұрын
Can't blame him 😂😂 he was wanting to do something fresh for a change lol
@jaykelley103Ай бұрын
The canonical ending is the one from the show.
@theesper7404Ай бұрын
@@jaykelley103 really? I never finished reading the last 2 books out or the series 😅😂
@b1bbscraz3yАй бұрын
@@jaykelley103 only some of the story beats not the same entire journey though. like fAegon from Essos or Arianne
@andreikurbatfinski8514Ай бұрын
Mesmer and Melina were likely born before Radahn, an item description described Mesmer as an older brother to Radahn
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
thanks for the correction :)
@Bori.1776Ай бұрын
Very likely before Godwin and the omen twins
@josearturocastrejonespinos7933Ай бұрын
@@Bori.1776 i agree. It'd seem Mesmer and Melina were the first childs of Marika, potentialy even before or right after her ascencion as a God at the gates of divinity
@b1bbscraz3yАй бұрын
dragon deez nuts
@k-p116Ай бұрын
What item describes that? If it is Gaius's remembrance, it says that both him and Messmer were as elder brothers to the lion. As elder brothers, not literally elder brothers to him
@hyena436Ай бұрын
Mohg shared his omen blood with miquella, in an attempt to grow him into his own consort for his dynasty. This "accursed blood" was what was needed for miquella to enter the land of shadow, which is why it is also the access point for us to transport there as well. So Mohg wasnt an arbitrary pick "hoping for someone to come along and kill him", miquella could access the realm of shadow by charming mohg to kidnap and share his blood with him
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
OHHHHH
@gublamanАй бұрын
So is omen blood and hornsent blood the same thing? Or are they separate things tied together by the crucible? What does this mean for Dungeater's ending? Does Gold Mask know his dlc lore particularly when it comes to Metyr when mending the golden order?
@ChaoticHereticАй бұрын
@@gublaman Omens are just Hornsent that are mysteriously born within the Grace of Marika (Base game). They are called Omens because they are a reminder of what happened in the past and what the future could be.
@rawgamesnippets9412Ай бұрын
That is true but I still find it odd that Miquella was essentially waiting for someone to kill Mohg after he entered the land of Shadow, as he needed the body as a vessel for his consort... If no one came along and killed Mohg, Miquella's plan was screwed... And it's even more amusing that Mohg is in what seems to be the most out of the way, obscure to reach place in the entire lands between
Ай бұрын
@@rawgamesnippets9412 he sent Malenia after Radahn (because maybe Radahn was not cooperative, and that is why Malenia marched through Godrick), he didn't expect her to fail. My guess the plan was to use Malenia to kill Radahn and then Mohg as well, but Radahn was stronger than expected and Malenia nuked herself out of the equation. So it was not up to a random nobody to kill both, but his most trusted ally who actually happens to be the best fighter in the lands between. This makes sense for me, the plan just went sideways.
@Emperor994Ай бұрын
Fun fact: if you go by the lore of tower of suppression that is present right between the Lands Between and if you place the shadow realm map according to the description on the cloud in centre of the lands between, you will see the gap filled almost perfectly and the Shaman village is right beneath the Royal Capital Leyndal. All the divine towers in the Lands between also seems to encircle the tower of supression according to the map.
@eggjones6039Ай бұрын
One thing i can say, I think Mogh and Morgot were banished cause the Omen are more than likely related to Hornsent, which are the people who cut up Marikas people in her village and put them into jars
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
right on. and they hated anything to do with the hornsent
@eggjones6039Ай бұрын
@@NeddyTheNoodle Such a soulless curse the golden order did, to Mogh and Morgott. Cursed her children into the slayers of her own people 😂
@CoffmaestroАй бұрын
Yeah I think so too! I interpreted it as her growing up with the horns being seen as a blessing from the crucible. So naturally Marika would see it as a curse, and her getting children with the characteristics of the crucible might be a sign of its' influence seeping through her new order, which would probably scare and repulse her, so they were sealed away.
@dynogamer1377Ай бұрын
Can’t say I was expecting this, but I will gladly take a lore summary for this collapsed library of a game
@rowanrose8502Ай бұрын
“Collapsed library of a game” is the absolute pinnacle of metaphors for this game 👌🏻✨ 10/10 my friend
@pattyc.4978Ай бұрын
Perfect metaphor
@SlothhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhАй бұрын
bro what a perfect metaphor 😂😂.
@RegenerdАй бұрын
Sadly it is a pretty terrible summary with cause and effect switched around like crazy, wild speculations partly presented as fact and the timeline of certain events just completly out of whack. Its a nice write up but not much more.
@richcook1795Ай бұрын
Welcome to souls
@OuterRimPrideАй бұрын
Pretty sure there wasn’t scarlet rot in Caelid until Malenia put it there.
@nickfrost4518Ай бұрын
I'm no expert but pretty sure there's lore about the previous rot vessel that was sealed in the Lake of Rot by the blue dancer. Also pretty sure Rellana LEFT her moon when she joined Messmer, and was later found by none other than Ranni.
@timlwryАй бұрын
Also Miquella helped Freyja meaning he was there after the bloom
@GetOutterMeHouseАй бұрын
@@nickfrost4518oh yeah well if she left her moon then why does she have TWO
@bobbywalker2980Ай бұрын
@@GetOutterMeHouseI was gonna say that 😂 . I was gonna say by that logic she has 3.
@titanscerwАй бұрын
Yes, this dude has all kinds of timelines jumbled and cause and effect backwards, kinda like watching racoon hopped on fentanyl ...
@christ1121Ай бұрын
The Goldmask ending isn’t just restoring what came before. Corwhyn constantly claims that Goldmask must have gone mad with blasphemous thoughts after he discovers the truth of Radagons identity. When you read his mending rune it says something along the lines of an order without the fickle will of any gods. Goldmask is removing the greater will (and probably other gods) and their influence from the world, allowing you to become an Elden lord that isn’t a puppet of some god. Though it isn’t the flashiest, it’s probably the ending that Ansbach would have wanted when he says “do it for us”. Probably my favorite or second favorite behind Ranni’s
@nobodyimportant124Ай бұрын
The greater will isn't a outer god and is never described as one. Also the greater will is not part of the golden order. The golden order follows the principles of the greater will but it doesn't have direct connection to the greater will. The greater will is basically the will of the universe. The golden order is connected to the elden beast which is a outer god. So what gold mask does is removes the influence that the outer gods had over the world. Gold mask finds out that the golden order isn't really following the greater will like they claim to be. The dlc expands on this idea with metyr who mentioned that she hasn't been in contact with the greater will since the elden beast landed. Aka he makes the world follow the will of the universe and follow the laws of nature compared to the agenda of a outer god.
@zakridler3831Ай бұрын
I always wondered why varre was the first npc you meet when you start the game but now it makes so much sense. Miquellas plan relies on you killing Mohg, and by placing varre where all tarnished end up in the lands between he leads you in the direction of mohgwyn palace. If every tarnished starts out at the first step one of them will eventually follow varre to Mohg and kill him
@nobodyimportant124Ай бұрын
That would make sense if you weren't told to not use the relic until called upon. You weren't supposed to meet mohg until his dynasty was complete and varre just resented the golden order and turned on their own people in spite. Varre specifically states to not use it until called upon
@sebastianirala7714Ай бұрын
What made me happy with the dlc is that it made Marika much more of an interesting character. In the base game she was too vague. Also Messmer, his bossfight, his knights, his legacy dungeon, his lore. All of them are s tier in my mind
@MrSlayerkid117Ай бұрын
His build is not s tier looks uncomfortable to walk around
@sebastianirala7714Ай бұрын
@@MrSlayerkid117 scoliosis never stopped him
@Touma1345 күн бұрын
All we knew base game is she had a penchant for being an unfaithful wife (miyazaki staple) and a genocide happy rule.
@cy9nvsАй бұрын
I'm all for leaving some things unanswered and vague, but with this game, I'm honestly convinced, that even Miyazaki himself doesn't have most of the answers we're looking for.
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
Either that or the translation issues are exceedingly bad.
@Akuryoutaisan21Ай бұрын
@@NeddyTheNoodle Can confirm it is just as vague in Japanese
@larb631429 күн бұрын
The stuff with Miquella is honestly just stupid. How does he abandon his flesh if his corpse is already stuck in the egg in Mohg’s palace?
@prao460327 күн бұрын
yeah there was an interview he did that basically kinda confirmed that there's no "cannon" type story - a lot of it is vague and left open to interpretation. Miyazaki said he watches some lore videos and finds it interesting to see how people interpreted it
@imbangmaynn57054 күн бұрын
Thing is this is GRR Martin's fault. Every fromsoft game has always been vague but never the type to not actually answer, it was more of a, find it type of story telling not like Elden Ring where even if you find everything it doesn't answer shit. I'd argue Miyazaki is a better lore maker than Martin, also what's with all the incest and miquella thing with Martin anyway?😅 And you know it's him adding it when all these years Miyazaki never added these types of plot points to any of his games. I wish Elden Ring was developed by Miyazaki alone and not with his interference
@WastelandRegisАй бұрын
It’s implied that part of the reason for Marika finally ordering Mesmer to kill the honrsent was due to the hornsent at some point cursing Marika and the golden order believers with the omen curse after she betrayed them. When they did this is not directly stated I think, but that in addition to her already large hatred for them is implied to be the reason.
@thehighwayman3122Ай бұрын
Honestly, most of Marika's problems line up with some ancient society that she and Godfrey stomped down at some point or another. Messmer's Abyssal Serpent? Well, before Rykard moved in, there was an Ancient Serpent Cult living in Mount Gelmir that venerated and supported the God Devouring Serpent, so it probably got stomped, leading to Messmer's problems. The Omen curse has an obvious source, but the Scarlet Rot being the way it is can be traced back to Messmer torching the Church of the Bud, leading to Romina becoming the way she is now and the Rot taking on a new form.
@SabreArchonАй бұрын
In lore there was also a Great Demigod Hunt where Godskins apparently hunted down lesser demigods and skinned them
@justcallmeleonardoАй бұрын
A fun weekend with the boys
@KyngD469Ай бұрын
Just a little Horsing around
@Morfe02Ай бұрын
just a prank
@SabreArchonАй бұрын
@@justcallmeleonardo the average tuesday with my homies be like.
@KurwaRomekАй бұрын
It's no wonder the surviving demigods attack you on sight, they must be totally paranoid
@BehindTheFramesАй бұрын
I've watched many, many videos to claim to explain the lore to this game. Some 2 hours long, some 4 hours long. They all confused me even more that i already was. This video is the first one that gives me some actual understanding of what this game is actually about!! So thank you. From a non gamer that just likes stories ❤
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
@@BehindTheFrames im so glad! Thanks for watching :)
@Anil_MatholiyaАй бұрын
💯% agree.
@xrabbz2010Ай бұрын
Dont feel bad about not understanding the story, ive beaten this game 8 times and im here becauee im still clueless
@polsinplussind6218Ай бұрын
Best explanation for me to put everything together in my mind before it was bit and pieces but it more clear now. Thank you
@madhound0113Ай бұрын
The Dr.Disrespect face on Mohgs was absolutely foul💀😂
@SleepyMatt-zzzАй бұрын
I have no proof, but I feel like it would make sense to suggest that both Marika and Radagon were both shamans, and its how they were able to seemlessly switch between bodies.
@GamaDaGreatАй бұрын
Don’t forget the wandering Mausoleums and graves also have the bodies of Marika’s soulless children that she abandoned. So in reality she’s got like 20+ kids
@Ma.1rrАй бұрын
😧
@BlackTearDropАй бұрын
That's honestly never confirmed... It's more likely that it may just be other members of the golden bloodline. Like Godrick and Godefroy. Godwyn's children and grandchildren and great grandchildren etc. Since Godrick is described as a distant relative.
@gato313Ай бұрын
I saw another video that is hypothesizing that those are actually us, the tarnished because on the beginning video the walking mausoleums can be heard.
@kayurien845Ай бұрын
And our tarnished might be one of these individuals due to clues from when they wake up
@demonbasher23Ай бұрын
Vile strumpet 😂
@joshuapatrick682Ай бұрын
39:50 Miquella is quite literally only one or two steps ahead of you the entire time… he’s at the Scadutree base where younsee the Avatar when you arrive at the Scadukeep and his Great Rune breaks.
@michalvalent5807Ай бұрын
I love how godfrey calls himself the FIRST elden lord. It perfectly fits with the narative of the order of light trying to delete the acient history. When new mondarchy was established on dust of other, always the XXX the first came into play. Nothing say that you are the first "new normal" better then that hahaha
@thatshimofficer8950Ай бұрын
Ok but no one has ever told me why miquella’s arm is so fucking big
@BlackFenoАй бұрын
IMO, the arm in the cocoon isn't Miquella's.
@omegaweapon116Ай бұрын
I never thought about that lol
@dighad3824Ай бұрын
eternal youth my ass
@humbleservant7797Ай бұрын
@@BlackFenoif it is his body tho, then some one has to explain how he discarded his flesh in Shadows, when his flesh is in the cocoon.
@BlackFenoАй бұрын
@@humbleservant7797 Yeah, true.
@OuterRimPrideАй бұрын
Having multiple heads, maybe Placidusaax is both the god and the lord. Similar to how Radagon and Merika are both in the same person. Just an idea.
@KaliTakumiАй бұрын
This comment is edited and yet Marika is misspelled
@OuterRimPrideАй бұрын
@@KaliTakumi that is because I misspelled it and did not edit that word.
@MrPowow28 күн бұрын
8@@KaliTakumiyou feel better about yourself now? You must have a lot of free time
@TheLucasblanesАй бұрын
Great video! But I wanted to point something out: it's confirmed in item description that Messmer was an older brother to Radahn, so he was born before or while Radagon was still married to Rennala. So probably Messmer crusade happened while Godfrey was still Elden Lord (maybe it's the whole reason why Godfrey lost his grace, since he had crucible knights as his personal guards and was close to Morgott - it seems he had no problem with the crucible). We're still not sure who was Messmer's (and Melina's) father. Maybe it was Godfrey himself and their red hair is due to the duality that Marika was suffering when she was split into Radagon or maybe it was Radagon himself in an extramarital relationship while Marika was still married to Godfrey - another potential reason for him losing his grace.
@adawg3032Ай бұрын
Only in a fromsoft title can you fight a space amoeba tree dragon to save a god woman from a tree
@glowindark6429 күн бұрын
True and based
@sesongo17 күн бұрын
And you can do so dressed like a dancer wielding a finger on a stick.
@Williamsonw4Ай бұрын
Grandam is like a high priest. She's the crucible religion's version of finger readers. Not an empyrean herself.
@OdysseusKingАй бұрын
...false. She was an empyrean, same as Marika and the Gloam Eyed Queen. Marika "won" the candidacy to godhood, and Grandam resents her for it. Grandam even calls her a whore, implying Marika may have slept her way to the top.
@xan42OАй бұрын
@@OdysseusKingsource?
@youngbloodbanana337613 күн бұрын
@@xan42O "i made it the fuck up "
@tristanneal9552Ай бұрын
Worth pointing out that the Erdtree is confirmed to have come from the Crucible, and item descriptions refer to the Crucible as "the Erdtree's primordial form"
@ruiferreira9759Ай бұрын
Great video, a few notes: the crucible is akin to the primordial soup, but made of flesh, where all life was born from, and it wasn’t just horns that were associated with them but also wings, spikes, tails, etc, all present as “aspect of the crucible” incantations Regarding fingers, I find it funny that 2 are holy, 3 are blasphemous but 5 are the amount of humans and most bosses The trolls are descendent of the defeated fire giants, and they communed with their god of flame through their eyes in the chest, that’s why trolls have holes in their chests where the eye should be and can’t use fire magic
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
thanks for sharing! :)
@sephiroth851716 күн бұрын
2 finger + 3 finger = 5 fingered peoples. Could imply humanities ability to do good and create life or do evil and burn it all down.
@joshuapatrick682Ай бұрын
They missed an opportunity to have Rannie show up if you had completed her quest to help you fight Miquella and Radahn. Two Empyrean’s and their chosen simps.
@nobodyimportant124Ай бұрын
That wouldn't of made any sense whatsoever tho
@TJG13NYАй бұрын
Great vid but i think you missed a crucial part in the rise of the golden order, which is the war between them and the dragons
@OdysseusKingАй бұрын
I feel like your description of Goldmask's ending as "more of the same" is unfair. Goldmask removes Marika's influence over the Lands Between, quite possibly by convincing the Greater Will itself (though the DLC calls this into question, as the Mother of Fingers wasn't even talking to the Greater Will, so it seems odd that the Greater Will would talk to a random monk). Goldmask also indirectly destroyed the Golden Order (which holds at the core of its belief system that Marika is the one true god), but left the Elden Ring intact. In other words, he used admin privileges to make the Elden Ring a read only file, then killed himself so Marika couldn't get the password to his account. No more Shatterings.
@hannibalsmyth677920 күн бұрын
22:00 “Dude! Melina, Melania, Marika! How the f*** is anyone supposed to f***ing remember this s***!” I’m glad you went through to create a lore video but this was the best part of the video.
@MPMoellaАй бұрын
I feel like when the Lands of Shadow were broken off and hidden (if that's true), Merika also did the same to Farum Azula. She knew the old Dragon Lord was sleeping there and placed Maliketh there to watch the portal and keep Destined Death away from the Lands Between. Melina simply found a loophole that her mom left which is her ability to teleport you places.
@raghav1026Ай бұрын
Never thought i'd see an Elden Ring lore vid from you, great vid too :D
@InnersixeyesАй бұрын
Dont think the miquella/radahn god/consort thing was meant to be seen as incestual. As the Japanese text refers to radahn as King.
@InnersixeyesАй бұрын
but this is a GRRM story in its roots so who knows lmfaooo
@christofferrsnes9508Ай бұрын
@@Innersixeyeshaha that fucker loves to write some fucked up weird shit in his works lol. Not surprised if that’s the case😂
@adawg3032Ай бұрын
Perfect. I have something to drive home to tonight.
@Djdoubledad24 күн бұрын
What I wanted is if you brought ranni's doll she mirrors miquella in the promised consort fight cause it should 100% be a show down
@zephryoz869214 күн бұрын
From what I understood, Marika had plucked the rune of Destined Death first , then the Gloam-Eyed Queen got her hands on it and was using it to kill Gods. So Marika had sent Maliketh to get it back and guard it
@joshuapatrick682Ай бұрын
All of Marika’s cursed children have names that start with an M, Godwyn does not and was clearly the favorite because of it. The only question is, who was his father? Really?
@shredhappy101Ай бұрын
All of the demigods either have a G, R or M. George R R Martin
@liqqidsurgegaming2970Ай бұрын
A lot of the trolls in the were actually slaves or mind controlled in the lands between. That stone in there stomach takes the place of where the second face should be.
@TheAbabinili28 күн бұрын
Melina is not the Gloam-Eyed Queen, who was a Queen Empyrean and rival to Marika for the godhood. There is a big difference in timeline.
@playwithfyre163812 күн бұрын
It's pretty cool (for me) that I managed to complete Ranni's ending without guides on my first playthrough. I'm quite sure the other endings were available for me (except the frienzied flame), but I actually liked Ranni's views on how things should be. This is what inspired me to finish her questline, taking me almost 30 hours to complete.
@Waves9515 күн бұрын
Frenzy flame ending everytime 😈
@JuanLopez-qr9okАй бұрын
you can let melina burn the tree down, then inherit the frenzied flame and you dont hear her saying shes gonna hunt you when you do the ending. all you get is the burning tree and world.
@keenanmetzger754710 күн бұрын
This was an amazing video! My only note is that you can get the frenzied flame from the three fingers and burn the Erdtree, then complete Millicent's quest, and become cured of the flame to pick different endings and Melina would survive. But you never see her again, so I can see why this information didn't need to be mentioned.
@user-ss1os6ek1xАй бұрын
One interesting thing of note is that it seems like Marika's people, the Shaman, were first the Numen. A race said to be from somewhere else. So the Hornsent may have just been xenophobic. Which is awful. But pretty common.
@RokkettdogАй бұрын
Or the description of numen being from another world just refers to the land of shadow. After Marika rose to godhood, it seems she used the elden ring to shift her and the hornsents home "continent" to a separate plane and after removing death from the ring, basically used the now transfixed landmass as a dumping grounds in place of an afterlife. I'll be honest tho, bc of Miyazaki's world building and design style, quite a bit of connecting pieces are missing in favor of ambiguity and interpretation thus leaving them more for gameplay reasons. How do we and the others get to the land of shadow? How did Miquella acquire Mohg's corpse? If he already left his body behind, how was Miquella divesting his flesh again at the crosses? I can usually ignore lore gaps as long as they don't have direct influence on gameplay and the played story.
@GoldenEmperor5Manifest19 күн бұрын
This is perhaps the strangest drug addled 1970s hippie fever dream I've ever seen. Even Frank Oz couldn't have come up with anything as bizarre as this lore.
@ZeanG_16 күн бұрын
Miquella: Two Half Brothers make a whole one, right?
@jmssunАй бұрын
2:53 the game should be called “Elden Setting” or “Elden Mod” to make it less confusing
@ltrain420000Ай бұрын
Great video! Not sure if someone had mentioned it yet but Scadu is pronounced like Shadow. It's an old timey way. Kinda like how gaol is pronounced jail in the game.
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
@@ltrain420000 Heard about the shadoo tree pronunciation a couple days ago, but went through with finishing up the video anyways. Didnt know that about the Gaols though! Thanks for sharing :)
@ltrain420000Ай бұрын
@@NeddyTheNoodle Anytime. Loved the video. You got a subscriber! :)
@OmnipotentOАй бұрын
Frenzied Flame ending is metal af and therefore the coolest and best ending.
@KingofAwesomness14Ай бұрын
you forgot gold mask's ending which is actually pretty good!! I did it and liked it! i did the Ranni ending on another playthrough so yea, a thing.
@vintagegoats19 күн бұрын
Just wanted to say you did a great job making this video. Sure they might be a couple inaccuracies, but for someone who finished the DLC and was left wondering wtf happened is this it, your short, information packed and comedic video was top tier. Thanks so much man, appreciate you
@NeddyTheNoodle18 күн бұрын
thank you. I've had a lot of responses that dont quite understand just how new I am to this franchise. I appreciate the acceptance!
@OPDayPerps16 күн бұрын
It wasn’t consensual radahns eyes are glowing yellow and he looks hypnotized
@LucasDimoveoАй бұрын
The server company analogy helped me understand just what the hell the Greater Will is and how it relates to lesser gods. Thanks for that
@ohmoe438526 күн бұрын
IDK if anyone said it yet, but Grandam is just and old term for grandmother, so Grandam is actually the grandmother of the empyrean, not an empyrean herself. It's probably the grandmother that Marika mentioned at the village
@JadeAndYukiPlayАй бұрын
I absolutely love your storytelling style. It’s a lot how I like to and just feels more like you’re having a conversation then listening to a lecture. Both equally viable, but one feels more natural.
@ValourFlame21 күн бұрын
Nah the jokes are bad and ruin the epicness this is not how u tell a story
@AvaniAcruxAnastasia3 күн бұрын
Obsessed with this video, thank you so much for compiling everything we lore diggers crave so nicely like this 🙌
@PhlingerАй бұрын
Great as usual man! The Nitrado poke cracked me up man, well done =)
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
thnx!! hahahaha
@airport232724 күн бұрын
Didnt think alexander had that big of an appetite
@GroundZer0Mike28 күн бұрын
Im so glad I did the Ranni storyline. I hope everyone gets to experience the love, pain and beauty of it.
@GuacPissАй бұрын
this was a good video, always wanted to get into the lore but never knew where to start easy to follow ! like the direction of the videos ❤
@Pendragonthegreat23 күн бұрын
best story summary ive seen yet. GOOD JOB!
@Sabien2 күн бұрын
I also see now why the greater will keeps asking for new gods, or is interpreted to be wanting new gods. It's because the order that comes along fails to maintain it self and so the fingers choose a new god for a new order. It's never eternal as everyone thinks it should.
@MaskedUpActivities26 күн бұрын
I think marika had a child with a outer being without even knowing it could explain the curses of her children
@PaulPaul0Ай бұрын
Finally someone that broke it down in the best simple & comedic manner
@MrsHyde101811 күн бұрын
I’m offended you’d call the Frenzy Flame ending the worst when Dung Eater literally just wants folks to suffer in excruciating agony. All I did was get burned and burn the tree down. xD best ending aside from Ranni’s.
@master_ranch_of_the_runnin7289Ай бұрын
The SWALLOW NEHIL was so funny.
@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752Ай бұрын
28:55 =... Some fans theorized Godwynn was Marika's choice to become Ranni's consort as it meant her fave kid would still have a good future. Ranni, already pissed at Marika and her fate just went awol and used him as a sacrifice instead...
@NeonagiАй бұрын
You forgot the Perfect Order ending, to mend the Ring but remove the influence of gods from being able to influence it to their will, both that and the Age of Stars endings are probably what would most likely be considered good/canon. Also a few topics and characters are missed or glanced over in this analysis, but it was good nonetheless and helped add some more insight and possible connections.
@uRyL2322 күн бұрын
"Notorious for it's story" yeah I think we lost track of what a story is suposed to be
@TehBaccaАй бұрын
(Bit of a rant because I see so many people see "consort" and think "THEY FUCKIN!!!") If memory serves me there was a mistranslation from the original texts that doesn't label Radahn as a "consort" but just as a king. But to go off that and clarify, consort does not mean only sexual relationship with said monarch/god. It can just be of a intimate (also isn't only sexual) relationship. Miquella taking Radahn as his consort is more him taking him as a ruler/king for the land he wants to create.(At one of the crosses of Miquella it says he cut out his "love" so I don't think he's having thoughts of a relationship of that nature anyway). Last thing is outside of Gwyndolin (who isn't even gay as far as I know) there has never been a gay/LGB character in ANY of the souls/borne/ring titles so this being the first and it's between half-brothers? Nah. Last last thing, now if he were a "CONCUBINE" then yeah that'd be gay incest 100% lmao.
@BrettFairchildАй бұрын
4:20 should probably cite ratatoskr here man
@andrethomas9678Ай бұрын
Wow man I've just watched this video and I've just watched your " see you later" video. And man extremely well done for your first time doing this. Hats off to you man
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
Thank you kindly! Expect more videos just like this, very soon
@fantasticzero8965Ай бұрын
the gold mask ending isnt restoring the golden order to what it was but rather restoring it to what it SHOULD of been, all of marikas mistreatment of the others would not exist, its simply making the golden order perfect
@eebanzugaming1546Ай бұрын
He says frenzy flame is worst ending, but rannis quest is an illusion meant to give you a false maiden. The only true maiden you’ve always had is Melina. And by becoming frenzy lord you both save your maiden and end the chaos, and she follows you forever afterwards as the only true existing maiden left. Albeit in a vow to defeat you, but you are elden lord and holder of the Elden ring, she’s fated to be stuck as maiden forever because of this. I’ll always believe this is the true maiden ending and not ranni, she’s literally a doll and a false consort using her physical form to manipulate the tarnished. Much like bloodborne true ending of ending the nightmare, frenzy flame ending is similar, but here it’s different, it’s not an end due to the tarnished holding the Elden ring, frenzy flame burning everything to start new makes sense considering what a mess the lands between have become, effectively bringing a new design without a tree and potentially a new game entirely
@SabreArchonАй бұрын
Technically, Godfrey is the First Elden Lord of his Order. He is the first Elden Lord of The Golden Order.
@LAK_770Ай бұрын
The Erdtree civilization and Golden Order aren’t the same thing. The GO was created only after Marika sealed Destined Death, which was much later than the creation of the Erdtree, after the Gloam Eye incident. Afaik we don’t know if this happened during Godfrey’s tenure, but it’s likely this was either after his banishment or shortly before it. Godfrey is very much associated with the early Age of Plenty and Crucible, before the Erdtree becomes the golden spectral tree we know in the game. He technically might have been Lord for a short time during the early Golden Order, but he very much is not associated with it.
@ImTypicalАй бұрын
An Elden ring movie would give crazy
@shinobigavin216814 күн бұрын
What's interesting to me about Radahn is that the final dlc cutscene, at least to me, implies that Miquella charmed Radahn into agreeing to be his consort. I think this because of the charmed sound we hear once Miquella talks about the gentleness of his order. However, the weird thing is, did Radahn not know he had to die to become his Consort? Because if he did then why did Radahn even fight Malenia to a standstill? Or does Miquella's charming powers also wipe the memory of those charmed so he wouldnt remember until he was resurrected? Questions on questions and it makes you wonder how much of all this From (Miyazaki and GRRM) actually thought about the details of this DLC when they were developing the base game. I have hope that they actually planned this all along, but who knows!
@The55kati18 күн бұрын
The god gate was most likely build by Marika with the help of Mesmer. Which could be te original sin that the game talks about. It was her revenge on the hornsent people, you can see in the trailer how the corpses are still fresh and I think she killed something divine to the hornsent people to take the runes and create her own golden order.
@j.w.7608Ай бұрын
How come rahdan and Rykard are not conaidered Empyreans like Ranni is? Isnt Ranni's mom Renala as well?
@MadScientist81Ай бұрын
Ask the two fingers.
@Felix-bg5sdАй бұрын
Huhhhhh? Well it’s a pleasant surprise to see you on Elden Ring. Love your Ark survival stories btw :)
@Soulwrite7Ай бұрын
Two things I wish they added to the game. 1) After Miquila/Rahdan fight, being able to summon Rani so she maybe a God. 2) Additional dialoge for Melina in the DLC, or more dialoge after the tree is burt and the flame supressing needle applied.
@-.-K._.2 күн бұрын
Damnnnn soooo much rage at the end, i love this 🤣🤣🤣
@Lilbird2fyeАй бұрын
I just realized miquella is controlling rahdan. How? We’ll just think in the boss fight miquella hugs us and we are converted to him… he was hugging rahdan the whole time in the second phase of the boss fight. N he comes out when rahdan soul returns i guess. Maybe rahdan wouldn’t have fought us if miquella didn’t hug him
@jvillain9946Ай бұрын
Instead of just getting scadutree fragments at the locations Miquella discarded parts of himself, they should of just had you collect his discarded parts to use against him during the final battle or to at least make a new mending rune for a different ending. They should have also finished the St Trina quest in the base game to give us more context to their split relationship
@neurohack9038Ай бұрын
Glad you don’t make games!
@alexsolesbee621429 күн бұрын
Dropping a comment in the first two min. What you did showing a maxed out tarnished shrinking back to that speck of guidance from grace. This game is more than we deserve. 😅
@johntovar7121Ай бұрын
Should’ve put some content on Maliketh “sealing” that sword inside of him. Yk for research purposes…
@user-oi2gk1ce6yАй бұрын
Detail: it was malenia that unleashed the scarlet rot in the fight against radan it didnt just apear
@tylerrace-brook4971Ай бұрын
Godfrey was Elden lord, and became Hora Loux when he was banished from the lands between
@deligma733627 күн бұрын
My interpretation on any from game: just kill everything thats weird until im the last one standing 😂
@herbata260027 күн бұрын
Absolutely best explanation. I thank thee greatly. If you read or listen to a bit more about Rycard and Radagon-Marica relation, you basically know everything.
@ItsFistАй бұрын
Dont forget the fact that the Radahn we fight in the DLC is Radahn's soul inside Mohg's body (which is another reason why Miquella needed Mohg)
@killaken200029 күн бұрын
to me, the golden thread Marika raises up looks similar to when the player uses a Rune Arc
@Wallahi13Ай бұрын
9:50 anyone notice that the scadutree chalice and the area its on look like they fit perfectly into leyndell
@KnoxKnight08Ай бұрын
😂Love Learning whilst pissing myself Laughing. Best way to Learn.😂🤣💜
@mrtoast3333Ай бұрын
44:24 i think bro got a tiny bit mad 💀
@NeddyTheNoodleАй бұрын
i was truly enraged!!
@mrtoast3333Ай бұрын
@@NeddyTheNoodle lol I feel you tho when I first fought fire giant I got so many close attempts until he decided to launch a mini sun at me
@TilouARKАй бұрын
Nice video, keep up the good work bud
@ZeanG_16 күн бұрын
Its crazy how the greater will has been dead for like the very beginning
@ym-xx6kj24 күн бұрын
this is very correct and comprehensive, with one main issue.. the actual timing and chronological order i think is all over the place and incorrect.
@rodrickhatton8636Ай бұрын
I haven't played a SINGLE FUCKIN' SECOND of this game, but the lore is something that's got my interest in a chokehold.