Ghost Games, blink twice if you are in danger.

I can't recall how I found your channel but I'm so glad I did

Restricted car classes is just pure content padding.

This is the best and most honest review i have seen for this game. You made a point that no one made. Ghost Games were probably speaking out against EA with the gambling theme of the game. It’s amazing to see that you have found that out by yourself. Your channel is awesome and i’m interested in anything you might do in the future.

If Rockstar signed for developing new Midnight Club games, I'd give up this franchise entirely..Speaking of which, can we get a New Midnight Club Now?

I know this video is two years old but some time (after this review) they added power up packs which with enough igc you get a boost to level 6, 11, or 16 parts each unlocking after story progression. This really helps with starting new cars because you can buy a level 16 power up pack and then buy level 18 cards to get a max car easily

I think Ghost should take a risk and make a more mature NFS with a gritty story.

Issue with Ghost Games is that if they kept the game style of 2015 and expanded and improved on it, it would'e surely been better. They are just too ambitious with their stuff. Also in 2015 the updates came for free for few months, no micro-transactions and paid DLC. Sadly they are under the control of EA.

Mandalore Gaming brought me to your channel with his holiday Q&A video, which was nice of him. I just hope Joseph Anderson hasn't hurt his dog or anything. This is the first video of yours I've checked out and it's fantastic. Well edited, well written and well performed. In just 36 minutes you've made me a fan and I'm looking forward to whatever you make next.

A very good review with quality comparable to Mandalore and Super Bunnyhop. It hurts to see you having only a thousand subs. Thank you for putting this much work.

Something tells me that The Run had the best story of any NFS, with Carbon, Undercover and Most Wanted 05 behind it. Only because even though it was short, it had diverse characters that were executed with respect. There was diversity in the rivals Jack would face, they would have their own motives that were clearly expressed, even in their driving, they were grounded. Seriously, a sequel to The Run would be awesome

I watched all your videos, you are doing an amazing job mate! Keep it up, well done!!!

13:20 actually the manufacturer was supposed describe the bonus each part will give you i.e. americanna is more for jumps and airtime while chidori gives nos and top speed from my experience this rarely matters till late game.

Keep the amazing job, i love the type of videos you do with so much detail and hour long videos that's how i love it ;P

Why does EA force so much story into these games? Forza Horizon 3 kept this stuff to a minimum and was better off for it. The NFS series has been doing this 'edgy' Fast-and-Furious-style crap more and more since Underground, and it's always been the low point, even in the good titles. They should put more money and time into the cars, environments, and the driving itself...

If you're looking for a good modern racing game take a look at GRIP. It's still in Early Access but it's very promising. Its the successor for Rollcage. If you've never played that one then know that Rollcage Deluxe is free right now along with other classics like Re-volt.

Hey man, what's the name of the music that starts playing at 12:00?

Holy crap i subbed at 800 and now you are at 1k That shows your immense talent I enjoy thoroughly the way you make videos Thank you for such great content!

I might have missed it but I'm under the impression that you have not played Need For Speed games prior to 2010. Regardless, I would love to see Underground 2 and Carbon get the same treatment. Especially the former. :)

"The other half is casual driving and product placement...doesn't sound like Fast and Furious to me." Have you seen any of the movies? Not to mention that video games aren't exactly an ideal place to advertise a $2-or-so-million dollar hypercar.

I look forward to being able to say I was here when you only had 1k subs. Great video man, keep it up.

Also, have you though about making retro-styled videos? I know there´s a few around but I´d love to see you Analyzing or Reviewing games like the older NFS Games, Quake or Half life!

I just realized that lisa the chick who set you up is literally the chick from "The Expanse"

Yeah, awesome video Whitelight! Just getting into the racing genre.. A big request: Dirt (Windows errors ensured), Flatout (Developer mess, for 3 and 4), Grid (Windows errors ensured), and the TrackMania series. I'll... probably support you in any genre though!

Please do one for Heat! I love these videos, so many good, well justified arguments, excellent!

Never even played this NFS title but since you mentioned it, these environments also bare an uncanny resemblance to GTA V's map. Seriously, replace any of those desert offroad sections with Trevor's Canis Bohdi and Steven Ogg's voice acting and it would be uncanny how close they look.

"The best intro ever... " Meanwhile in my head : " FIRST IM GONNA TAKE YOUR RIDE THEN IM GONNA TAKE YOUR GIRL, GET READY FOR THAT. "

you are my new favorite youtuber you make great videos, the whole racing genre and where its going its kinda depresing

I watched the whole thing. You know how sometimes you don't appreciate a good thing until something worse comes up? Well, that's how I felt after playing NFS 2015 again (mind you, I had already played 300+ hours of it) after playing NFS Stepback. For a minute, I thought NFS 2015 was the best racer ever created. What I want from a NFS game is a city environment, night racing, customization. All these are things NFS 2015 does pretty well and the story (cringy as it was) added to the whole experience for me. The idea of making a ride of your own, with your personal touches which might have been a marketing ploy but it sure helped immerse me in this underground lifestyle. Speaking of immersion, graphics. What the fuck happened? Now yes, "NFS 2015 is always at night time so they can hide stuff which means they can bump up the graphics" and I know daytime can be more demanding but I'm not here to make excuses, I am a consumer. NFS 2015 looks far and beyond better than NFS Paycheck even at night and that is not just environments but also car models as well as reflections. As soon as I finished NFS Nevercomeback's story, I turned off dialogue and voices. I played that Motocross or Motorstorm or whatever event was that they released on mute. I didn't want to hear them anymore, I couldn't. Of all the games I've played the past 15 years, Don'tcallmeback's characters are some of the worst written, worst acted and worst..."developed" characters. As far as I'm concerned, I wish Tyler died in that explosion and then everybody in the team had a car crash or something. I hope that we get back that faceless protagonist with a darkened face. That guy or girl is x100 times more interesting than most characters in NFS Givememymoneyback's story. Also I think I'm not the only one that linked the Gambler to GTA games and their NPC's that give you missions. His snarky voice over and his funny / smart style can be traced back to a bunch of GTA's side characters. The best character in this game is an average guy from another franchise. My friend has deleted the game and I haven't touched it in months. When I want to drive in an open world, I launch NFS 2015 because, unlike NFS Whatthefuckhappened, that game has actual drifting instead of simply powersliding around a corner and the city is way prettier to look at and more inviting to drive in, for me. Two saving graces in NFS I'mnotcomingback: The fact I can finally customize and make a crazy Beetle and the superbuilds.

Great video, Whitelight. Thanks!

Is that my homeboy HOME coming through with the CC soundtrack? Nice.

A very interesting review. Racing games have been one of my least-favorite genres for decades, but I decided to try Payback because its description reminded me of my favorite racing game of all time: Burnout Paradise. Payback is no Burnout, but as the first racing game I've played in almost ten years, it's not too bad.

20:48 May I remind you of "ready to donate another car for the razor fund? Vrom VroOom!"

I was wondering: how do you feel about the 'drift mode' the NFS franchise introduced? I've been playing racing games for 20+ years and the last NFS that felt good to me (with the drifting) was The Run, which is a bad game, but it has really good arcade driving in it. The problem I'm facing is that my learned skills prevent me from being able to do the drift mode - I overcorrect or undercorrect, because the game tries to drift for me and I'm expecting something opposite - I'm expecting MYSELF to get out of the spinout, not some wierd mechanic saving me. It results in confusion and turned me off 2015 and Payback with the blessing of EA Access saving some money. I can do with the cringe, but I can't do the assisted drift, it messes me up royally and you can't turn it off.

I'm very glad I was recommended your Most Wanted'12/Hot Pursuit'10/Rivals/2015 video and Watched it Later, because this channel is great. By the way, if you haven't yet, do you plan on doing a video on racing sims? DiRT especially would be cool

Synthwave background music? Hell yeah!

Really awesome Review! You definitely deserve a hell of a lot more subs!

This might be a tad off topic, but the music you have going in the background of this review sounds like my exact type of thing. Would it be possible for you to share the playlist you've compiled? If it's too much trouble don't worry, I just always love seeing if I can find more good drive music when possible.

I think making a dynamic physics system would solve the problem with map design. Tighter and more controllable physics in cities, Hot Pursuit physics on open road and off road physics in dirt tracks would make it fun. The physics would adjust themselves depending on the road and making maps with all three would make great maps. Slap in different types of cars like off road, super cars and race cars that are better in their own field but competent in others and you’ve got a great racing game.

Great video, although I find it strange you would cite Carbon as a positive example of a good NFS game, considering it has some absurdly pronounced gameplay issues (for one, going 350kmh in that game looks as though you're going 100kmh). I honestly can't think of a game with worse sense of speed than Carbon, which is a strange thing indeed when MW released the year before on the same engine by the same developers, is one of the best games ever for sense of speed.

Great review and analysis! Subbed 👍

Yay! A new channel I can binge

Hopefully you've upgraded your CPU by now, the stuttering is painful to even watch. Absolutely top notch review though, your channel is outstanding.

Horizon 3 got it's fair share of patches and plays fine in 60FPS on my 1060 6GB. It even runs offline. Also, no Xbox Live Fee on PC. But the windows store is still cancer and not made to distribute big huge PC games. It's amazing how little coverage Payback gets beside being mentioned in the Lootbox discussion.

Can you do NFS Carbon or Underground 2 X years later? btw great content!!

The most insane sense of speed will be forever found in Need for Speed ProStreet. Most races feel like snail speeds, true, but those Challenge/Sprint Runs (it has a name that I forget it), that has your car going 300-400 Km/h, it feels like you're going 1000 Km/h. If you jump wrongly at one corner, it will send your car flying 10 KM, resulting in an insta-totalled.

Amazing content. Well written and in depth!

Damn good Video, I almost bought the game at release but I´m glad I didn´t. I also feel like your Style of talking and arguing gets better from video to video, you´re doing a good job! Is it just me or does this game have kind of a "The Crew-ish" Vibe to it? Like Hud wise and stuff

Please link your Driveclub/Horizon mix you mentioned near the end? Sounds interesting

Can't wait to see you do UNBOUND I'm drooling for it

I did not notice the irony of the game at all but damn you are right. Very good review.

hey seriously love these longform racing game analysis videos, definitely think you should make more!

It was all downhill after NFS HP in 2010. HP was the best game they have ever made, I played it from Feb 2011 to Dec 2012 non-stop, I clocked over 3 thousand hours in that game, and the only thing it has is a decent racing mechanic, no shiny new stuffs like the new ones that feel like empty shells.

Glad to see I was not the only one to think Ghost's way of implementing speedcards was a "ok, you happy ? Please let us do our work now" move back then Almost felt like they traded this part of the game for pretty much anything else Not gonna lie, I didn't catch that subtext like you did but it makes sense when you think of it

When i had played this game i managed to break the balance in half with the shipments. i basically had no idea how to open them for a large chunk of the game, so by the time i found the menu to open them i had around 80-ish shipments to open. i got a lot of gambling cards from it. and since they all gave me better and better loot each time, i eventually managed to reach max level on one car and essentially stamp out all of the races aside from the penultimate mission. any spare shipments i had went to upgrading the other vehicles i had in the other classes, making the game a lot more tolerable.

(9:52) Thank you. It should be tuned for lateral or accelerating grip not for style.

Amazing video as always

Good news! Forza 7 microtransactions are gone entirely, along with the lootboxes (tho they were never purchasable with real money) The devs have also said all future games won't have microtransactions or lootboxes. Ironically, Gt sport just added them. Oh well.

I had a problem when they didn't put freeroam

another good video, never played any need for speed games after most wanted, but this was a great way to see what the newer games are all about

I wouldn't exactly say that Regera highway heist was product placement, no one irl is gonna be able to buy one because they wouldn't be able to afford it

Nice review gives a lot of info about the game

1:44 what game is that in the background?

regarding getting a car set for the next type of events, finishing the first few leagues will unlock derelicts that you can assign to a spec. I got my drag car off of this. There is absolutely no need to buy cars in the first chapters, and you may well be capable of taking the first cars into the end of the game.

I don’t see side bets as a true gamble in this game. You fork over a small amount of your in game money to opt into an extra challenge to do during the race, sometimes making the race very hard to win in 1st place making the races at times really challenging. They were fun and I almost always took them up cause the payout was almost always worth it, especially late game grinding cash, some times easy money, sometimes harder money but worth the extra effort. It’s a fun, casino themed way to add some extra depth to the racing

Finished it and woah... were those design choices intentional? Anyways, you should try and do retrospective videos on older racing games as well as niche games that you've enjoyed. I really like your writing style and I feel there is very little good videos on racing genre.

What's the name of the synthwave in the beginning

I would say I have a differing opinion to you as I think payback is worse compared to 2015. I never minded the cheesiness of that game, and I never encountered any bugs when I started playing the game, which was after payback came out. Payback splits the cars into classes rather than letting you use any car for any event, the cops, while better, are restricted instead of in the open world, the customization isn't locked by level, and the microtransactions and loot boxes for *performance parts* solidified the game as BS.

The car system is like NFS Prostreet. There you were allowed to buy drag, drift, speed and grip cars. But evetytime you had the option to change the class of your car.

I noticed the gambling theme of the game too but the theme reminds me of Darius from carbon 🤔

Loved the video but in my opinion I love paybacks map its not the BEST map but it's just a map I can enjoy driving for hours and not get bored after 30 min.. but I do have to agree that at the start of the game everything feels so slow when it comes to customization I was almost on like my 3rd hiest mission and I didnt have everything unlocked yet. I wish there was a higher rank than just 50 and I feel like the game needs more races though i'd give this game a 7.5/10 IMO. loved the video though

There's no sense of real speed in this game, unlike the Burnout series and Split Second. This is why I won't be buying this game. I'll stick to the other games mentioned, which are far superior to this!

Gladly in terms of speed cards they added catch up packs that get you up to speed with new builds

I personally think that this is a good game for casuals. If you can pick it up for under £15 then it's totally worth it.

thanks man. i had a feeling that the live service aspects of payback would get in the way of my game. brought burnout paradise instead.

Here's something I would spend my money on. Need for Speed: Two-Lane Blacktop, basically The Run 2, only without helicopters, and instead with older-school cars: Camaro, Corvette, Ford Falcon, Benz R107, BMW 2002, Ferrari Daytona, classic 911, Toyota 2000 GT... 70s rock playlist: Paranoid, Sultans of Swing, Iggy Pop's Passenger, Highway Star (I flipped when they had Canned Heat on that one stage in The Run) Give us an existential non-story with minimal dialogue, and wicked coast to coast racing against a nostalgic 70s backdrop. I really liked the concept of The Run, but I don't need a story to drive across America in a beefed up Nissan.

That Rick and morty joke made me subscribe

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2 on the PS2 has the best driving physics of any NFS except Porsche which was simulation oriented.The cars had weight,different grip levels for each tire.Going 120 kmh feels right,and also drving 350 kmh feels incredibly fast.Sadly i am still waiting for a NFS similar to that game....

this video really helped me on deciding should I buy this game or not.. my decision: lets wait for the next NFS

I just came here to see if this is worth to Download for PS Plus October.

What specs are you running? I have a fairly good setup and my game encountered no problems at all.

20:20 can we talk about your S2000's dinner table?

There is a racing game with a good story. It's Ridge Racer R4, and its got 4 stories that can be different each playthrough.

NFS Heat is fun, haven’t enjoyed a nfs game this much since Most wanted

Can you do some videos on the classics? (NFSMW2005, Carbon, Underground, Underground 2?)

Very impressive review! thanks

I wonder what your thoughts would be on these street racing games (won't list any NFS games, since people are already asking for those): - Tokyo Xtreme Racer Zero and 3, and possibly Drift 2 TXR is one of the first ever street racing games that actually focused on the tuner culture. TXR Drift side series focuses more on Touge, while TXR main series is more about highway racing. What makes TXR unique is that.. well.. it doesn't exactly have good driving, yet it's still somehow weirdly addictive. I dunno how to really explain it. You just need to try it yourself. - Midnight Club 2, 3 (Remix version, since it has an expansion pack) and/or Los Angeles. MC3 Remix is especially the one that deserves a look at. Midnight Club in general, along with Midtown Madness (same developers), were sort of the trend setters for the rest of street racing genre to follow. Unfortunately 3 and Los Angeles were never released on PC, and LA's PS3 servers are long dead. Midnight Club 2's biggest strength is probably the brutal difficulty and the ridiculous characters it has. A lot of the opponents you face are strangely entertaining, even if they're all just basic tropes and stereotypes. The final opponent especially is a strangely fun character whose entire motive is that he just wants get rid of his title as the champion and retire. - Juiced 1 I'd say this one is definitely on the mediocre side of things, but it does have some interesting things to offer. - LA Rush Rush series' take on sort of open city racing. I actually don't know if this one is good or not, since it didn't get much of attention back in the day. - Test Drive Unlimited 1 While the second entry in the game has even more to offer, its handling model is quite infuriating and overall the first game just ends up feeling like the better game. The ability to just cruise around a properly huge tropical island in itself is just a wonderful experience. And if you just want a fun arcade racing game, try Flatout 2/Ultimate Carnage. It's a mindless derby racing game that is obsessed with destruction.

Should I buy NFS Payback or AC Origins? I know they are two completely different games but I still want to know which one is better in each category.

One year later... and he got the upgrade system in NFS heat bang on

The first time you start playing do you need to log in?

I might get NFS rivals soon. I have not played a racing game since 2013, at least, and Forza horizon 3 is on Xbox one only sadly and gran turismo 6 was only on PS3 only for some reason, even though it was released when the ps4 was launched

It's kinda sad that this is the closest I could ever find to a NFS: Hot Pursuit review. Still a fantastic video as always tho.

Are you using a console controller or a wheel?

I hate gambling the aspect. It's like buying car parts based on how cool the packaging looks...

Did you play the crew? I found that game to be the most round up racing game right now, with cops.

This game’s sound track was 100% better than heat’s

6:40 NFS Rivals was my second favorite NFS Game because it has the soul of Hot Pursuit.

Camber=muppet. *has literal glacier shelf as a splitter on RX-7*

They really really are trying to make a fun, customizable, interesting, diverse game. But still capturing that sense of realism in a car, yes it's fun to blast 200 mph down a road in a car that should NOT be able to do so, but hey? Isn't that 1000bhp Datsun you can make good enough? That thing reinvents the definition of rwd monster, and is still one of the best handling cars in the game as long as you can find the tuning set up for you