'Need to get over fear of nuclear energy,' says scientist Anil Kakodkar at

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In conversation with ThePrint Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta & Senior Associate Editor Manasi Phadke on #OffTheCuff, nuclear scientist and former chairman of the Atomic Energy Commission of India, Anil Kakodkar, says India needs to increase its per capita consumption of energy to improve its Human Development Index and explains why fear of radiation leaks and accidents at nuclear power plants could be a thing of the past.
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00:15 Significance and purposes of nuclear energy
04:30 Applications of nuclear energy in agriculture
11:07 Challenges in achieving net zero emissions by 2070
15:20 Problems with using renewable sources of energy
19:10 Economic benefits of nuclear energy
21:50 Why do people fear nuclear projects?
28:43 How do we deal with nuclear waste?
31:45 India's three-stage process
37:30 Impact of the Indo-US nuclear deal
41:10 How can Indian universities improve?
49:00 Government's decision to pull out funding
52:30 The 100 ton gorilla who spoke logic but won't budge
57:50 Contributions to India's weapons program
01:01:16 Thoughts on Rocket Boys and Parmanu
01:06:25 India's race to net zero emissions
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@Deepak-vc8gd Жыл бұрын

This is an excellent interview. Prof. Kakodar's insights on topics beyond Nuclear energy is superb and as a professor of interdisciplinary energy research I find Dr. Kakodkar spot on that India' top institutions while they provide fantastic technical training in Engg or Sciences, we are a bit behind on producing more holistic and systems thinkers who can work on problems that are not just about science.

@sujanagavirneni3199 Жыл бұрын

Gem of a man, gem of a scientist, Anil Kakodker ji 🙏🏽

@hshs4051 Жыл бұрын

Good one. Fortunate to have nuclear scientists like Anil Katodkar and many like him in nuclear and space technologies. 🙏🏼 I sometimes feel most of our youths are being lured to IT industry, which in a way is not good. We need engineers in other fields as well.

@arjavgarg5801 Жыл бұрын

There is no dearth of qualified engineers.

@surendrabarsode8959 Жыл бұрын

1. Thanks Shekhar for a break from usual humdrum of politics and the usual nonsense. 2. Dr. Kakodkar has outlined the issues about nuclear energy clearly and in layman's terms. He is perhaps the best person Shekhar could have for this topic. 3. We are now quite clear that nuclear energy is very critical for baseload requirements even as we go green with solar, wind, hydrogen etc. 4. Dr. Kakodkar has also nicely explained about waste reprocessing and India's thorium program and its progress. But we needed more details about time lines for reaching the final stages. How far can it contribute to the nuclear power in future? 5. As regards Jaitapur site, he has an interesting suggestion of going ahead with Indian PHWRs rather than waiting for EDF to come on board. Modi Govt must take this suggestion seriously. 6. Shekhar could have asked him about how much of total possible nuclear capacity is potentially available to get a sense of how much more nuclear energy can contribute to the total energy requirement of the country (currently it is at 10%, as he said). We have 16 PHWRs getting ready adding about 10K MWs, another 20K MWs may come from international companies. But how may more new sites and expansion of existing sites are possible. This could have given us some concrete sense of the possible. Though at the end, Manasi did ask him the relevant ( and the best!) question. 7. Thanks to Manasi for asking Dr. Kakodkar about the "100 ton Gorrilla" memories !! The country will be forever grateful to him for his firm stand on India's nuclear choices!!

@skanavi53 Жыл бұрын

Dr Anil Kakodkar, excellent as usual

@manishtripathi7050 Жыл бұрын

He was chief guest of our training school convocation. A great scientist. 🙏

@Manish_Kumar_Singh Жыл бұрын

Proud of to see scientists from my Department of atomic energy get news recognition. As a young SO it's inspiring

@nageshpatil6714 Жыл бұрын

Sir, thank you for doing this off the cuff with eminent Dr. Anil Kakodar sir. The main crux in studies is holistic approach required. I think in agriculture education should be a complete holistic education is required.

@Charvak-Atheist Жыл бұрын

yes nuclear energy is among best source of energy. Far far better than fossil fuel.

@milandalsaniya8155 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I am not much of a news consumer but in this time of news/journalism, You're the most unbiased. You also get people that matter for discussions and interviews. I hope you keep doing it. I hope to keep doing my miniscule support.

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Mila, Thanks for supporting our channel. We appreciate you writing in and supporting our journalism.

@success163 Жыл бұрын

Anil Kakodkar sir ❤️ Brilliant brains from Science and Tech of India

@pabhay235 Жыл бұрын

Happy to See a Phadke joining Print. Am also Phadke...👍👍

@millennialmind9507 Жыл бұрын

Kya farak padata hai

@rekhaagarwal73 Жыл бұрын

One of fine interview .Organise such India centric knowledge sessions more.

@aijaiohm63 Жыл бұрын

What an insightful and enlightening interview..Keep it up The Print !!!

@sourabhadhya6267 Жыл бұрын

I love this off the cuff episode.

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Sourabh, Glad you liked it, keep tuning in.

@karrivenkatavanaja4641 Жыл бұрын

Hmm,.. He is a Master Class that came to know about. What a gem of visionary when it comes nuclear science n the greatest teacher. Thanks Print for this¡

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Karri, Thanks for tuning in and appreciating this episode of OTC.

@somdas8872 8 ай бұрын

More interviews with eminent professionals who make up the backbone of the country would be appreciated. They are the torchbearers that the young generation will look up to and follow

@Yo_uj Жыл бұрын

Only senior scientists can be brave and enlightened enough to say that our perspective is narrow and yours is wide. Also Mr Kakodkar pointed out the holistic nature of big forein Universities where they can have a better environment for solving real hum life problems. A great session and a wonderful use of time it was.

@mayankjain4364 Жыл бұрын

I love the interview, no bullshit and pure knowledge.

@abhishekraok Жыл бұрын

I wish we can have more interviews with him in the future. Very insightful and interesting. A treasure trove of knowledge.

@SouvikChatterjee5779 Жыл бұрын

Wow, such a great interview. One of the best OTCs for sure.

@shishirtamotia3992 Жыл бұрын

In the Indian grid the cheapest power is Nuclear and Renewable ( overall) is most expensive. Hydro in many cases is cheap due to long-term contracts signed at the time of construction of dams.

@sharadchandakacherla8268 Жыл бұрын

Wow, great episode

@santosh.poojari Жыл бұрын

Best #offthecuff episode. Excellent work The Print team.

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Santosh, Glad for your response, thanks for tuning in.

@athulshaji1754 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this interview.

@akshaytembhurnikar9538 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Kakodkar sir.... 🙏

@varaprasadnouduri261 Жыл бұрын

It was very informative interview and provided great insight regarding grid management. It is great to see our scientists in media....a small break from routine politics

@bamboo7099 Жыл бұрын

Solar per Unit production = 36 $ Nuclear production per unit = 112 $ Solar available = 4 hoursa day , 4 months a year Nuclear = available all the time Solar need storage = 136 $ of battery for KWH Nuclear doesn’t need any storage Cost to consumer of Nuclear is cheapest Thats why Nuclear is cheaper that so called cheapest source of electricity

@0838cs071005 Жыл бұрын

Great interview

@speedbird109 Жыл бұрын

This interview is a Thriller. From basic knowledge to research to military moves to the A bomb. My dad visited Trombay being an engineer Many times. He could have possibly interacted with Sir. Such interviews are far better than FALTU Bollywood movies.

@owaischunawala4030 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the interview. Can you please share the presentation link mentioned in the video?

@pritamdesai5226 Жыл бұрын

Presentation ka link kaha hai?

@er.ganesh4435 Жыл бұрын

Thanks SG & THE PRINT for bringing this Gemstone 💎 on camera. Such a thoughtful interview, nicely asked and greatly answered. 🔥👏👌👌✅

@c-49dhanashree48 Жыл бұрын

Please bring more such significant personalities.. loved this episode

@atuldeshmukh4471 Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

@zenithbg Жыл бұрын

Where is the link for the PPT?

@priyankpriyadarshi7904 Жыл бұрын

Where is attached link in description?

@babkamath Жыл бұрын

Well done SG and Manasi, excellent episode. Really learned a lot, thanks Print you make it compelling to watch your content

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi, Glad you enjoyed watching this OTC. We would also like to take this moment to thank you for taking a paid membership of our channel.

@babkamath Жыл бұрын

@@ThePrintIndia you have a sustained supporter for your very likable and talented team and content, thanks for your great work

@udaykashelikar Жыл бұрын

Please share the presentation of Dr kakodkar

@swaroop.d Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@JD002 Жыл бұрын

1:12:12 Sorry I couldn't find the link to he presentation which was said to have been attched.

@shishirsks Жыл бұрын

Where is the presentation? It is not attached in the description.

@dineshpratapupadhyay924 Жыл бұрын

Nuclear energy is the need of the hour. It's clean and has no carbon footprints. At least a third of the power should come from nuclear energy. The rest from the Sun, wind and hydel power

@shivendubhardwaj6200 Жыл бұрын

Interesting episode….really liked it

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Shivendu, Glad you liked it, keep tuning in. We also thank you for being a paid member of our channel.

@forselfgain Жыл бұрын

Excellent initiative where the time stamps too are provided!!

@tonyraheja1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks... Very interesting talk.

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Sanjiv, Thanks for appreciating our OTC episode. We also thank you for being a paid member of our channel.

@gokulchandran5586 Жыл бұрын

very informative

@AtomicInsights Жыл бұрын

SG & AK are so awkward, but this is a great intiative, need a part II just on India's thorium program

@JS-zc2jr Жыл бұрын

#ThePrint 👍

@partharege440 Жыл бұрын

We need to install dozens of nuclear power plants ASAP

@shishirtamotia3992 Жыл бұрын

Hydro is certainly the most grid- friendly power and is rarely used as baseload except during monsoon.

@vatsalsingh1555 Жыл бұрын

True but problem is whenever there are big hydel power projects initiated people like madha patkar comes to protest and derail the project.

@aayushvarora Жыл бұрын

How do I share my email to get updates?

@subhashgogate8044 Жыл бұрын

Very very nice Subhash Gogate

@maitreya.jamkar Жыл бұрын

8:10 Sri Lanka's organic revolution which caused another kind of revolution, dark 😅

@mohitgodse816 Жыл бұрын

Please add a post or reel on Instagram handle aswell. Become easy to share. Superb content 🙏🏼

@akhinx Жыл бұрын

Where is the presentation

@raghurampillarisetty7529 Жыл бұрын

First lesson to be learnt from Nambi Narayan is for the Media and it's sensationalisation.

@rahult1518 Жыл бұрын

Did anyone ask " did we go thermonuclear in 98 " ??

@sandeepshetty871 Жыл бұрын

Please send me the ppt, Thanks

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Sandeep, We will not be able to share the link to this presentation document.

@reardelt Жыл бұрын

One big issue is that, in times of war, the enemy might target these nuclear plants. There is a huge risk of radioactive fallout after that

@aravindrt Жыл бұрын

We can always retaliate in same fashion

@manut1349 Жыл бұрын

@@aravindrt Safety and protection are equally important , we can have a shield of missiles, that too might not be enough .... but the thing is we cannot abandon our nuclear power options thinking of a future imaginary war .. since our neighbors already have nuclear warheads they just can use it anywhere at times of war so even if we abandon our nuclear power plants we are not immune to an atomic attack .

@gajananpanchal7054 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Kakodkar has pursued master's from Nottingham university not Birmingham university

@sanketphalgaonkar3919 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Kakodkar’s name is spelt wrong in the Title and description.

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Sanket, Thanks for pointing out, we have issued the correction

@udaykashelikar Жыл бұрын

Presentation plz

@chaadeblah Жыл бұрын

Please give us a link to the presentation .. thank you..

@ThePrintIndia Жыл бұрын

Hi Prashanth, We will not be able to share the link to this presentation document.

@chaadeblah Жыл бұрын

@@ThePrintIndiaNo problem . Thank you for the prompt reply.

@rajesh2453532 Жыл бұрын

Expected questions on PFBR and it's reaching criticality. Y delay in achieving criticality. Any problem with handling liquid sodium since many countries have backed off. When is third phase of three stage will be commercialized? Any fixed timelines for these programs? Feel that these r left intentionally or didn't do the home work well.

@vatsalsingh1555 Жыл бұрын

India is world leader in thorium technology and have published most number of scientific papers in international journal and we are one of the two major countries in fast breeder reactor, but you are right they need to fast track the program coz the lead will be less with other countries.

@nikhilghodke2876 Жыл бұрын

Kakodkar...

@hvbhat Жыл бұрын

We still have Abdul kalams amongst our midst

@vijayjagtap2301 Жыл бұрын

Sir but waste irradiation will kill pathogens as well as helpful bacteria

@nerf2752 Жыл бұрын

Have you seen how they store nuclear waste in Finland ? Please go and see that and educate yourself.

@atanuchaudhury7217 9 ай бұрын

when we will see the results.... even after 70 years thers no conclusion in this research. Please ask them #ThePrintOTC

@ssingh1772 Жыл бұрын

Fine if these facilities are in Maharastra and end up polluting the Indian Ocean. One word Fukushima.

@87anikool Жыл бұрын

I really love Fadke Madam's Marathi English accent She s the only one using it and really mainstreaming it. It is exactly every teacher around us used to talk/teach English.

@stevesempa7728 Жыл бұрын

Hey shekhar,no disrespect but did you notice that sir has habit of rubbing hands during speaking No disrespect again Just fun👍

@maniaphobia4719 Жыл бұрын

I came to know from KZfaq video that rubbing hands as many times in a day will be helpful for blood circulation ; True (or) False is a question left to medicos which I am not ;

@Designarchi1 Жыл бұрын

You can make nuclear energy operate safely but you can never make it where it doesn't have a byproduct that isn't deadly for thousands of years. Until that massive problem is solved, nuclear energy is dead. Coming up with a place to bury it isn't a solution. Beside nuclear energy is terribly expensive.

@manut1349 Жыл бұрын

Sir in this interview itself it was explained how to deal with the so called "nuclear waste" and the difference on how other countries (egs--America-- meant by "waste" coined during Jimmy Carters time) see as waste and India see as waste. in India we reprocess.. The cost factor was also explained towards the end

@skcharagi Жыл бұрын

Three mile accident. Chernobyl. Fukushima

@shishirtamotia3992 Жыл бұрын

Coal is not a dispatch able power. Just as Nuclear, Thermal ( coal) is base load power. I feel prof Kakodkar is certainly not very aware of the grid terminology.

@kasahakari Жыл бұрын

What is the percentage of Nucleus Energy in India? What are the efforts made to increase the share of Nuclear energy in India?

@tge2102 Жыл бұрын

Only 4% compared to the global 10% so should be increased. Probably could have happened if the uneducated gangsters masquerading as "activists" didn't stall construction of various plants.

@shishirtamotia3992 Жыл бұрын

Comparison of Hydro with Nuclear is very unfair.

@theAraAra Жыл бұрын

Why so?

@skcharagi Жыл бұрын

Shekhar Gupta is not trust worhty

@vivekpraseed918 Жыл бұрын

Imagine TWhs of nuclear plants all over the world. Its a national security risk. Enemy just has to bomb these facilities. Anyone these days can get a drone making it easier. There's also the issue of building and maintaining ever growing waste disposal areas like Yucca mountain

@vijayjagtap2301 Жыл бұрын

Why Western countries have moved away from nuclear energy?

@tge2102 Жыл бұрын

No they haven't. Only Japan and Germany have closed their reactors. Most of Europe, canada and the US still use it. France heavily uses nuclear energy and is therefore least dependent on Russia for Energy. Funny how that worked out.

@HarikrishnanTulsidas Жыл бұрын

European Parliament has recently voted to include as a green energy source. Finland will be phasing out all coal and will be dependent 80% on nuclear. Poland is building new nuclear plant. So is UK, Czech Republic. Germany had announced a phase out by 2030, which they are reconsidering now. Germany is heavily dependent of coal, lignite and Russian gas, and promotes renewables in other countries, so that their companies can sell wind turbines.

@karrivenkatavanaja4641 Жыл бұрын

The woke activisim which dictates the electoral politics there as in any democracy. Don't worry Germans would start their plants as soon as Russian gas stops or it becomes an economic burden.

@vijayjagtap2301 Жыл бұрын

Although practical realities have made every current dispensation to hold on to NE as an option to be retained. It still does not mean that for the long term it's a safely manageable technology. And that discussion is still open.

@HarikrishnanTulsidas Жыл бұрын

@@vijayjagtap2301 Isn’t it the same with any technology? We can do a comparative analysis of the safety of the full lifecycle of all energy sources, which means storage and backup etc also. We can find out where nuclear stands from these studies.