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STRONG and FULLY 3D Printed Arms for your Ender 3 KE and SE
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Күн бұрынYou'll want this upgrade for your Ender 3 V3 KE and SE!
Help support this channel! / needitmakeit
This is the 5th video on this printer, we're nearly there with the upgrades to get this printer printing like a dream, and one thing that's been bothering me is the amount of flex in the posts and vibration I was seeing during printing. There have been a lot of complaints about how square the posts are to the bed, so I thought it was worth a closer look to see if we can fix both problems at once.
The goal was to come up with something that looks good, add the rigidity that we need and also allows some adjustment.
You'll need to use this upgrade as well if you haven't already:
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Printed Parts:
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Hardware:
M3 x 5mm (10pcs) Heat Set Inserts - Into Arms
M3 x 20mm (10pcs) Button Head MS - Secure Arms to Adapters
M3 x 10mm or 12mm (10pcs) Button Head MS - Outboard Adapter
M5 x 20mm (2pcs) Button Head MS - Inner Arm to Long Arms
M5 Locknut (2pcs) -Inner to Long Arms
You can reuse the stock screws for the motor adapter and lower post adapter
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@YouBetterCallSaul 4 ай бұрын
Legend has it he’s still adding those M5 locknuts 😂
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Still working at getting them in, the curse of the round fingers...
@PaulMorel-CA 4 ай бұрын
I'm loving this KE / SE series, as someone who just got a Ender 3 V3 SE as his first printer, the timing couldn't have been better. I didn't think I'd enjoy tinkering with the printer.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
That's great! I have probably 2 more videos coming for this printer, maybe 3. The goal is to get this printer to a point where it can compete with just about any bed slinger, or maybe just maybe some CoreXYs as well. I like to tinker, no doubt, I love the challenge and I like to design, so it's all good for me. Making the videos really slows down the process, but hey... what can ya do?
@ej-1030 3 ай бұрын
Just got one my self I love my new hobby
@BarryMaitlandStuart 5 күн бұрын
Ever subscribed to a channel just because you find the creator so amiable? Great video to watch while I wait for my KE to arrive.
@stew675 4 ай бұрын
I really like that circular action locking joint. I've never really come across it before, but it seems to be an excellent approach. Love your work!
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm the first person to do this, what I was shooting for was a joint that could not come apart in the direction that the loads were applied, it happens to look really good too. I think it just could have been a tiny bit tighter, I was using 0.08mm clearance, and I needed 0.05mm instead for the perfect fit. Such a small difference but with those shallow angled tapers, that's all you need to make it work. I'm making a video about it to share how I did it in more detail and we're of course going to test the joint as well, since it's fun to break things to learn.
@daniello5912 4 ай бұрын
I've had my KE since January and I made a similar fixture back in February with 15mm aluminum rods and fixtures that attache on top of the gantry and below the base through those tiny M3 screws under. Cool to see a fully 3d printed version! Adding these fixtures for sure improves the print quality quite a bit.
@FloxMeTvRoblox 4 ай бұрын
What size were the rods? Do you have a file for the printed parts? I have access to breass and aluminum rods.
@zacharysmith8397 4 ай бұрын
Made a similar structure a few weeks ago for my KE and honestly the biggest improvement was when I finally printed a mod to get the spool off the top
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Nice, that spool on the top wobbling around like it just don't care
@802Garage 4 ай бұрын
Oof those curved sliding dovetails are so satisfying. Pretty extensive mod, but very beefy and industrial looking! As always, fun to see your iterative process. And now we can add the M5 lock nuts. ;)
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
It was more challenging than I expected! What came out of it was a few innovative ideas that might be useful. A fun project and it looks great, unfortunately I still need to work on the extruder and that's even more challenging. I was having so much trouble with that nut, the other side went in first-try.
@MarkoVukovic0 Ай бұрын
Amazing! Thank you so much for all your hard work on these mods. Greetings from a 3D printer KE n00b in South Africa.
@robbycyr2099 Ай бұрын
Joined on Patreon; the amount of work to design all this and give it away is wild. AND it all fit! The printing improvement was massive on my KE which is my first printer; thanks!
@TheNewBloodDan 3 ай бұрын
The rotating dove tails is such a clever idea!
@vlottech 2 ай бұрын
would love to see some benchmarks between before and after the brackets. Definitely considering doing this aswell
@typicallucas 3 ай бұрын
that's a really cool design, I especially liked the curved dovetail joint upgrading a 3D printer with printed parts gives a special kind of satisfaction.
@Evo_Spec Ай бұрын
The amount of work you're putting into the KE is crazy. I thought the KE was going to be great for me but after watching your KE upgrade series, I think I'm just going to get an A1 or P1S even though I don't necessarily agree with their business model.
@HansyPants184 Ай бұрын
Duuuuuuuude! This is god teir design! I've seen the threaded rod gantry supports for a while but they look a little.... Cobbled together. This not only looks rock solid but i think it makes the se series actually look better somehow.
@drainboy 4 ай бұрын
thank you for all these!! the ender 3 v3 ke is my first 3d printer and all these mods will definitely help make the printer better. i have already bought the parts for linear rail and looking forward to install it during the summer break
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Nice, I'll have at least 2 more videos for this printer, one for the plate replacement for under the bed, and the other for the extruder. I'll need to do some final results as well in those videos, unfortunately I can't do it until the other problems are solved.
@MakerMindset 4 ай бұрын
Always top notch designs. I always learn something new from you. Keep it up!!😉
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, I try to add some little fun tricks in there, just some neat ideas that maybe other people could find useful!
@sekermakes 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for that thing, amazing design. If there is nothing similar on the internet, or anything made with rods, than i litterality had a dream about this while sleeping.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, I've tried to come up with something that solves the problem, looks good and it's too expensive. I went through a few design changes to get to this point, ,and it turned out nice. It's not as simple to install, but if I can do it multiple times without losing the rest of my hair, I'm sure it's not too bad for anyone else. That's funny you had a dream about it, I also have dreams of 3D printing, it's probably a sign that we have a bit of a problem :)
@sekermakes 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeItnice sprinkle of self irony, I think when dreams come to reality is amazing. Keep your printers printing, channel pumping, ideas flowing and maybe hairs growing.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
@@sekermakes You've got it! More blood flow to the brain must mean hair growth... I'm onto the next video already, and I have at least 10 more planned after that, the problem is that every time I have a conversation I get more ideas. I think the best way to solve the problem is to learn to make videos on a subject far faster.
@jjptech 4 ай бұрын
Finally something to praise my old bulky CR-10v3 cow for bringing that from factory
@user-2df90a0z1 4 ай бұрын
Mike is MY HERO!!! I will name my first born after MIKE!
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
HAHA, well thank you very much, but I'm only trying to solve problems and post them to help anyone with the same problems.
@3DandTeePrinting 4 ай бұрын
This is a much needed upgrade to the SE and KE. I Braced my SE a few months ago and saw drastic improvements. My KE has been fine but will definitely be using the Ecosystem your creating. My SE is a variety of different upgrades you seem to be making one by one for the KE/SE. The linear rail swap on x and Y setup and gantry brace are the best upgrades that showed the best print quality improvements. Plus the new flowtech instsll and now it's an awesome machine rather than a cheap budget printer.
@chatroux399 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful work with nice connection between each parts !
@EnjoyYourCar 5 сағат бұрын
I'm watching your KZfaq in Korea. It was a really informative video and thank you so much.
@soccerpaintball6881 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video did the print quality improve I am not happy with the print quality of my under 3 V3 SE I hope this will improve the quality of my print also I want to be sure that this kit will work on the SE thank you for your time
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I'll have 2 more videos coming for this printer, I still have an extrusion related problem, I need to figure out if it's the extruder or if it's the current coming to the extruder motor or perhaps something else. It's funny that it was my first thought that the extruder was the problem and after upgrading everything else, I'm coming right back to it. I believe the SE and KE printers have the same frame/base the steel plate below the bed on the SE has larger cutouts and it doesn't run Klipper unless you have the sonic pad I believe. This upgrade should work well with the SE, but if there are any changes, just let me know and I can adjust as needed.
@bobeaston1389 3 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt Your first thought was its the extruder. So you did everything but fix the extruder? Your right it is funny.
@mentatsolutions1101 4 ай бұрын
this is just so incredibly complex. Threaded rod connected from the top of the frame to the body allows infinite adjustment to get the frame square and stop any movement. Also get rid of the spool from the top of the frame that's just stupid having it up there adding extra weight and "sway" to the frame
@_ShadowT77 2 ай бұрын
Can you explain how to make these adjustments to get the frame square?
@trharding 26 күн бұрын
This sort of stuff put me of 3D printing forever because it just seems so focussed on 3D printing to 3D print. I got an SE on a whim when it was on sale at a shop I wandered into and I've been printing stuff stock without any problem and no tweaking of anything and I feel like 3D printing is finally useful. Today I printed some desk grommets for a custom charging drawer and it was cool, had a problem, had a 3D printer, solved the problem with no fuss.
@billy.the.maker. 18 күн бұрын
some people like to tinker, upgrade etc. Same with cars. I don't know why you are so upset. Buy a printer and print what you want...
@vica153 2 ай бұрын
Bolted joints at the ends and added that brace to the arm, but then there's a simple glued joint right in the middle of the primary arm. That curved dovetail is very cool, but you should make it long enough to add a thru bolt like the ends. The added brace is 4 additional parts and more disassembly of the printer and likely negligible improvement to the primary arm. One single arm per side would achieve the same result with much less effort. If there is deflection in that long arm, then it could be better solved with larger cross section in the middle.
@kveldsmusikk2898 3 ай бұрын
Love your experiense :) I got my first 3d printer about one week ago. a Ender 3 KE. Soon found the wobbeling problem. But come to a different, but not nearly as fleksible/elegant solution. But much faster, cheeper, simpler. The problem seems to be the weight of the spool. So by simply put the spool on a fixture on the wall, above the printer, improved a lot... But of course, that means that the printer is stationary... And yes, there will be some wobbeling still, but FAR less. The upgrade with linear rails. That will I do thoug
@thomasnixon4440 4 ай бұрын
The CAD work on this is great (there's a lot of interesting details), but I really don't get the design or overall idea. The attachment point at the top can slide (it's tight now, but for how long?), and I assume that's why you added the brace into the corner. The effect of the corner brace depends on the bending stiffness rather than tension/compression, which is inefficient, and requires adjustment because it's over-constrained. IMO it would have been better to find a way to attach the top mount rigidly to the frame (say, a couple of set-screws). This would provide the necessary adjustment to get it square, and you wouldn't need the corner brace. Anyway, have some engagement :)
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
For sure, it's by no means perfect, and if someone wants to modify it by adding a set-screw or bolt the top adapters through, by all means, perhaps even gluing them in place. The lower they are the better control you have over the angle, and it looks far better than strapping something on top. It would have been better to make this from carbon rod or steel or even aluminum. The goal was to provide this to everyone regardless of their level. I've suggested that this be made from ABS/PC PETG-CF because of their stiffness, PLA in an enclosure wouldn't be wise. Great points, thanks for your thoughts!
@MakeKasprzak 4 ай бұрын
Nice! I've been staring at the kits on AliExpress that do the same thing, but I like that you could just print one (something I hadn't considered, lol).
@TheWillys 4 ай бұрын
Nice upgrade. In the future, I will make it for my Ender 3 v3 se, but for now, I have other upgrades to make as linear x and input shaper. But when I upgrade the x stepper to reach high speeds, I will definitively make it.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
nice!
@pascaldarantiere9823 4 ай бұрын
Superbe travail de modélisation et de conception, bravo
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Merci Beaucoup Mon ami!
@ebahns 4 ай бұрын
I printed a side spool holder for my filament. No more extra weight up top now
@TheRealStructurer 4 ай бұрын
I did the same 👍🏻
@jamievalentin1193 4 ай бұрын
I'm considering the new Ender 3 V3 with metal frame. I'm guessing it's going to be stiffer and a better machine, but it's great to see your solution. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
@stefanNT_1008 4 ай бұрын
I was sctually looking for a nice set of braces! Thank you!
@illich1010 4 ай бұрын
Got the KE today, will definitely do arms on later, thanks.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Nice, let me know how it goes and also if you're seeing any extrusion related issues like I've shown in the previous videos, I want to know if this is something that only I have a problem with, or is this everyone.
@illich1010 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt linear shafts artifacts?
@mkygg 4 ай бұрын
The joints you did on the red parts are so cool lol
@vahpr 4 ай бұрын
We have similarly equipped shops, including what looks to me like a NYW woodworking bench😀 Love that curved sliding dovetail, very cool. Were those crossfeed nuts there at the end?
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Nice! Little by little I'm working on upgrading my shop, most of my woodworking tools are pretty old, but still work just fine. I recently bought that nice bench, it needs a bit of TLC and a filler for the tool holder slot so I can use the whole bench on occasion, but it's super handy. I'd recommend a bench like that over an ordinary bench on wheels any day. You've got it right! Those are the cross-slide and compound nuts from my Southbend 9A Lathe. The cross-slide is terribly worn, both the nut and the screw. I have a new screw, now I'm working towards either getting a new set made, or trying to do it myself.... Buying them is so expensive for what you get, but without them, using a sloppy lathe is just no fun.
@EdgarLópez-o9t Ай бұрын
Amazing upgrade!
@TheoreticalCyclist 4 ай бұрын
You should relocate the spool holder next to the pronter, there will be less weight on the top of the frame causing wobble.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I agree, with this printer the runout sensor needs to be relocated to the extruder so that the filament doesn't need to first loop up on top and then down to the extruder, but that's possible for sure.
@kimmotoivanen 4 ай бұрын
Could you make a video of how you design the dovetails for this and Qidi Pro bed frame? They look nice :)
@joell439 4 ай бұрын
I too would like to see this dovetail design. 👍😎👍
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I just so happen to have a video in-the-works at this very moment, I've had a few requests so I shall show you how and then you can take it from there. It's a super nice joint and it doesn't need much clearance compared to a non-tapered joint. That video is probably going to be for mid-week next week or next weekend!
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Sure can, and I am making the video right now, I've had several requests to show how it's done, it's pretty straight forward, but I'm going to show you a few different options and you can pick which ones work best for you.
@norealnameno739 4 ай бұрын
@NeedItMakeIt, hey! Thank you for great video. Could you please share 3d design howto for these rotating dovetails? I've seen video about frame build with dovetails - it was great, but these seems much more complicated. And I'm sure you have much more 3d design for printing tips up your sleeve.
@sierraecho884 4 ай бұрын
Good design, well done
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, it seems like people also wanted a steel rod version, I was shooting for a solution for everyone, and I guess you can't please them all.
@sierraecho884 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt There are 1000x ways to reach a goal. You have shown one way. Sure you can also show a steel rod version in combination with 3D print. You can also do a "forged" carbon fiber version or a wood version. I mean in the end the question is what is the stiffness you really need and how much money and effort it should cost ? I am sure with a metal or carbon fiber version the stiffness would be greater but is it really worth it though ? What you can do is... are you familiar with the "Morphological box" ? You can brainstrom some ideas like different geometries and materials and combine them to see what would be best. Show your viewers what you considered and what you disproved of and why. I do this too as an internal dialogue, you can show this in a matrix overview and choose YOUR path but this way I could have a visual representation of your design decision. Since you are very active with your viewers you might want to clue them in maybe they can come up with their own ideas ? Maybe you come up with the ideas and they create a combination ? something like that. Do you know what I mean? Should I make an example ?
@dreadlysmellybum 4 ай бұрын
I printed and fitted this today with my teenage son to his KE. It was printed on the KE. Petg with 8 walls and 55% infill, it’s VERY rigid.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Nice work! It isn't a small job, but it's a nice final result. Especially when the holes line up better than they did for mine the first time around!
@dreadlysmellybum 3 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt I did need to use a couple of the offset hex bolt inserts to make things fit without stretching or bending anything but overall it was a big success and the arms are super strong. I used normal thick superglue on the big arm joint. I have left the photos' of my finished job on your Maker World page in the comments.😁
@creativeleodaily 3 ай бұрын
filament color looks beautiful
@rodgertaylor3204 3 ай бұрын
As much I appreciate your idea but, creality have released the se,ke,v3 in what 6 or so months without any stabiliser support. Yet now they bring out v3 plus with gantry stabliers . Which for those that have the other printers could feel hard done by not thinking of doing this to the SE,KE,V3. Unless they can come with upgrade for them, which they could.cos they obviously have for the v3 plus.
@christiandrouin9460 4 ай бұрын
Nice work. Creality needs to hire you as a consultant!
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I'd be happy to do product testing for them, I am doing it anyway, it's just far too late in the game.
@komiteunofficialaccount9224 4 ай бұрын
This is bonkers, good job. I wonder though, at what point are we better off getting a better printer off the factory?
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! You're better off getting a better printer from the start, I'd suggest a CoreXY, there are so many benefits. This series is really meant for anyone with these printers already and it can provide some solutions or some ideas anyway. I don't think bed slingers make much sense these days, moving a massive bed at high speed won't be able to compete with moving a small-ish head and rods on the CoreXY.
@802Garage 4 ай бұрын
If you already own it, can't exactly hit Ctrl+Z!
@juandelgado77 Күн бұрын
The error in the holes on the right side is due to an error in the design of the blocks to reinforce the base you put on the other video? Excellent work!
@philj1975 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your hard work. I'm looking to get a KE soon. Saved all your series ready. 👏👏👏
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
That's great, thanks for the support. If I may ask, are you set on this printer or are you open to other options?
@philj1975 4 ай бұрын
@NeedItMakeIt no, I'm open to any suggestions. Please thank you. I thought the KE because I want something future proof a little, I can improve, and also, from what i see and read, Klipper is the board to have. Buy the SE and extras to KE spec come out able the same. But and suggestions great fully received. 👍
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
@@philj1975 At this point there is so much competition, that I wouldn't go with a bed slinger, they're very limiting on what you can produce, a CoreXY enclosed printer if far more capable, and produces better results. The QIDI Q1 Pro is an excellent printer for the price, it may be the best overall that I've found so far, with the Bambu X1C/P1 series printers also competing for top spot. The X1C is far more expensive of course. The QIDI Q1 Pro has features that the other printers don't have and will give you lots of options for later on. I have a video review of the QIDI Q1 already to show how it performs. If you have a moment, check that one out and see what you think.
@philj1975 4 ай бұрын
@NeedItMakeIt i have looked at this one as well, but I will have to wait as not available in the EU yet. I'll wait and see then that it's. It is a nice machine and I do like it as well. Thank you for help and option @NeedItMakeIt
@alannguyen5050 4 ай бұрын
I would love a linear rail conversion video for a K1 or K1C if possible!
@beav1962 4 ай бұрын
Seems like turnbuckle nuts in there somewhere would allow fine adjustment. Still a cool project.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I soooo wanted to create some 3d printed versions, but it would have increased the complexity level, great idea through! Maybe I need to put some time into a 3d printed turnbuckle?
@beav1962 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt - I would think a couple of threaded ends and then the turnbuckle nut would be fine somewhere within the printed long support. Then maybe print a snap cover to hide the hardware and make it blend in. I am not criticizing by any means....it just popped into my head when you said people have said there are differences in the gaps.
@paranoiia8 4 ай бұрын
I had similar issue with other printer. I took 3$ aluminium bar, mesured it, cut it, drill it and screw it in. Around 30min work and it looked like it was there from the start.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Sounds great! Sadly with this printer there are no good places to screw it into, but the bar idea is a good solution and maybe have 3D printed end pieces to receive it.
@jasonallen3 23 күн бұрын
yesssssssss i need this soooooo baddddd
@Xailow 4 ай бұрын
It'd be nice to see before and after pictures of parts printed at the same speed
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
For sure! I will do this in an upcoming video, unfortunately I have yet to fix the extrusion issues and any tests would not show definitive results until that problem is corrected.
@alexanderzawydiwski9534 2 ай бұрын
Yep I think I’m going to have to do this to mine because when printing fast and the head starts moving higher the whole gantry starts wobbling back-and-forth like crazy and causing Leylines
@robertosecco983 23 күн бұрын
I had to send back mine and get a replacement... which I sent back the day after. The z plane was leaning backwards and, every time I disassembled it, the threads in the aluminum got worse and worse.
@PULSTARUnboxing 17 күн бұрын
my bed is not completely flat, slightly curved, the first layer is not straight in medium to large prints... how can I solve it?
@TinTalon 4 ай бұрын
I am so excited to do this to my printer! Great job. I really wish I knew how to do what you do. Amazing to me. I get that some people already know how to do this and to them this may not be as impressive, but I love the thought of creating and making something functional. What do you use to design your parts? What program? I’ve got fusion 360 but I haven’t had a chance to start learning it yet. I have no experience with CAD other than a couple things I made in Tinkercad. Love it. Please keep up the fantastic work.
@TNX255 4 ай бұрын
Based on his videos I've watched before this, he's using Autodesk Fusion (360).
@tedwaetford Ай бұрын
You didn't show how you squared the gantry to the bed, and in particular where the provision for fine adjustment was. Surely you didn't just move the top blocks up and down?
@michaelstraughn3465 2 ай бұрын
Think I'll buy a Bambu 3d printer, the same time I buy the v3, so I can go ahead and fix the new v3
@NeedItMakeIt 2 ай бұрын
It's tough to pickup on sarcasm here, I'll assume that was your goal. You can do as you please, I'd tend to want to wait for the next gen of Bambu printers though. The reason for these videos is to help people who have purchased this printer and require solutions to make it more reliable. If you weren't aware, I have lots of videos showing the issues with this printer and I've done what I can to find solutions. Have a good one.
@evlogiy Ай бұрын
Hey there! Thanks for your awesome work! I already messaged you on Maker World, but didn't hear back, so I'm dropping a comment here too. I'm interested in printing your gantry support but want to tweak it a bit-adding extra supports where I think they're crucial and smoothing out some edges. Could you share the original project source files (I think you use Fusion 360, so .f3d files)? Having those would really help me make the changes. Afterward, I can send you the updated files so you can decide if my additions are beneficial for updating your models on Maker World. What do you think?
@_samtakoi_ 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the problem with these printers is in the stands; they stand on a plastic case, which becomes deformed when the temperature changes. Well done author, the solution is correct, strengthening the racks with supports. If the author doesn’t mind, then here is also a good solution for supports, there will be a link to the files: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bNB6qN2c0eDUZ2g.html
@psychomarto 4 ай бұрын
I mean yah, they look good, but its a bit overengineered... I solved it with two M8 rods, 8 nuts and 4 anchors for the extrusions... about 8 years ago with my tornado (and that one was crooked AF)...
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I guess I wasn't clear with the goal, I've made this in such a way that anyone with this printer can make, regardless of their skillset with machinery. It would have been far easier to do this from steel rods or even aluminum. Valid point, it's not the direction I went even though it would have been about 10X easier for me to do.
@psychomarto 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt just to be clear, I meant no sass or anything, I like the looks of them, as said, but considering the factor ease of use: my tornado was not reliable and I was a beginner back then (kinda still am) but I was aware I need as much precision as I can get- and being such a newbie, calibration was a proper struggle then, but I knew my way around with cutting threaded rods, so it was a no brainer for me, not needing extras like perhaps inserts or precision printing. I like your vids as they explain a lot hence don't get my comment wrong. I commented in case someone with my "skillset" from 2016 feels a bit overwhelmed/scared. Cheers!
@johniveson6308 3 ай бұрын
the ender 3 s1 needs this
@fredydefcon1 4 ай бұрын
great work my friend, I'm thinking about buying the new Ender 3 V3 Plus, I hope this aspect is resolved because it already includes arms to avoid this effect.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have one of the smaller new E3V3 printers with the metal frame, which I've been testing and they've fixed just about every problem. I'm still having one little issue and it's not bad, but the extrusion seems to be not quite as consistent as I think it should be. Maybe I've been spoiled by the QIDI Q1 and the Bambu X1C. I have more testing to do as well, but I think it might be related to the extruder design, it is still only supported on one side of the extruder gears, allowing some movement, it's very hard to know since I'd need a glass panel to see what's going on inside.
@fredydefcon1 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt Thanks for the feedback, I will continue to follow
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
@@fredydefcon1 Sounds good! I'll have a full review video on the printer, I'm trying to learn a bit more about the extrusion before I finish it up.
@fredydefcon1 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt ok I can't wait for the review 😃
@EE-ou4pc 14 күн бұрын
I’ve built this, but I can’t get the insert out of the bottom left adapt. Is there a way to increase the clearance? Or can you do so?
@NeedItMakeIt 14 күн бұрын
Can you send me an email with a picture so I have a better idea and then we can go from there. Needitmakeit@gmail.com
@EE-ou4pc 13 күн бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt I figured it out. I just uploaded the stl into an editing software and fixed it. Thanks though
@noobt4eguns 7 күн бұрын
Were i can print free that?
@jacobkaiser7024 7 күн бұрын
Can we get an update video on the polycarbonate plate?
@ricardohnn 2 ай бұрын
Can you show a before and after pieces?
@Luchingador 4 ай бұрын
Cant argue with the results, but i think i would just avoid this printer. If it had an all metal construction i could justify improvements but this feels more like fixing a troubled product
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I agree, there are better printers, it's really aimed at people who bought the printer and need some help with solutions, but the ideas could be used for any printer with similar problems. I wanted to share some of the ideas with the dovetail joints as well. I'm trying to use some of my knowledge of woodworking connections and apply them to 3d printing and the dovetail seems to work really well, it's far easier to 3D print rather than making it by hand.
@phredka12 3 ай бұрын
Pytanie po co komplikować. Skoro można użyć prętu gwintowanego, kilku kątowników metalowych, i do gięcie pod wymaganym kontem oraz skręcić śrubami. Kolejnym ważnym aspektem jest mała płyta betonowa do której przymocowana jest drukarka sztywno, i to bardzo pomaga a może nawet zdecydowanie bardziej niż usztywnienie ramienia
@Nedeles 4 ай бұрын
If you dont use a trypod and put the 2 versions side by side, i dont think i could tell a difference
@jeffm2787 3 ай бұрын
Nice, but easier to just run a PTFE tube up, remove the spool holder and print from a dry box. The filament is most of the problem. Still requires a couple items to be printed of course.
@NeedItMakeIt 3 ай бұрын
Yup, good option for sure, I'd prefer to see the runout sensor on the head or within the head as well, it doesn't make sense to run up and then back down if it can be avoided.
@jeffm2787 3 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt I just printed a feed to test the concept of pulling from a dry box. Got a few options out there. For sure the run-out sensor needs to be handled. Printing another that will allow it to still be used, but very wasteful in the path.
@NeedItMakeIt 3 ай бұрын
It should work well coming from the box, I've done some testing on pulling through a pretty long tube and it doesn't seem to be enough friction to cause any problems... until maybe we get to 10+ feet of tubing anyway. It would depend a bit on how the spool is rotating, I've found one of my dryers causes the spool to rotate with quite a bit or resistance, while the other has very little. I don't find I use the runout sensor at all do you?
@jeffm2787 3 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt I've printed a couple solutions and both are working fine. The shaking does go way down with the 1kg spool out of the picture. I'm happy with this solution and it doesn't require any mods to the printer. Well not permanent mods at least.
@jeffm2787 3 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt I don't use the runout sensor. Might be more of an issue if I'm pulling from a filament dryer. Some are hard to see in and know what you have left.
@okanacar6546 3 ай бұрын
You only need this thing; take the flament put the down
@TNX255 4 ай бұрын
Nice! Next make a version that fits the Ender 3 S1 Pro, please, thanks 😇 (One can dream...)
@olafmarzocchi6194 4 ай бұрын
And years after years, without upgrades the Ender 3 is out of the game. I can see why Bambulabs sells the A1, for those who just want to print
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
I think that soon enough, bed slingers no matter which brand will be a thing of the past, there are far better formats of printers coming out these days.
@oskukin9077 16 күн бұрын
I still wounder how you get the perfect finish to your parts, i've been printing for some time now but i still can't figure out how to get the finish you get. Do you have any tips i coul use?
@moijazsnijderz6515 15 күн бұрын
I have, go to your settings on max axelleration or max speed and adjust it. Try to find some vids
@oskukin9077 15 күн бұрын
@@moijazsnijderz6515got it i put the first layer speed even lower so now it prints at 10mm/s.
@timoburgi3784 4 ай бұрын
Great video, but if you go to this extend, why not make the arms go both to the front and back ? maybe its a little over kill but it would probably stop the wobble completely
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, sure, it's possible and I don't think it would be too hard, it didn't occur to me at the time TBH. Good idea though!
@petersilva4242 4 ай бұрын
That looks like a hercus or Southend cross slide nut you printed at the front end
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
You've got it! Southbend 9A I'm trying to decide if I want to get the cross-slide and compound nuts made up or if I can do it myself and I wanted to print them first to get the fit close and to understand the ACME sizes they've used. They are unfortunately non-standard sizes these days. We have 3/8-10 and 7/16-10 ACME, except the pitch diameters don't seem to match anything commonly available these days. I've been thinking about doing some bronze/brass casing and machining new ones myself, but that's going to be hard for me at my amateurish metal working level.
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 ай бұрын
10:00 "Go their own way" SuperVinlin
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
You can go your own way, go your own waaay.
@TS_Mind_Swept 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt you can call it anoooooother lonely daAay
@mtslyh 4 ай бұрын
I don't know why 3d printer enthusiasts think that the only way to fix a 3d printer is with another 3d printer... This could have been done much easier, cheaper, and with a more rigid result by using steel instead of plastic. Your red parts could easily have been replaced by cheap steel flat bar with holes drilled in each end. Your back corner brackets could have been made from simple steel angle brackets. And I'm sure there is probably a way to use a simpler bracket system on the other parts as well. I give you an A for effort but in the future, don't shy away from using metal. It's not sacrilege to use metal on a 3d printer.
@fernandoisraelruiz7572 4 ай бұрын
Hey, why don't you just shut up and show us how you would do it instead? If you can't demonstrate it, then just keep quiet
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that was a consideration, however the goal was to make something that is printable which does not require ordering special parts and cutting to length. I have metal working machinery in my shop, I am also a Woodworker and I could have easily made it from wood. The point is that the solutions I try to provide are for everyone regardless of their skill level or available equipment. When I begin to design something I usually run scenarios through my head of what is the best possible solution that I can provide, sometimes that's how I begin... it's not always the way it ends up depending on the constraints.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
LOL, Love it thank you!
@CERBERUS6349 4 ай бұрын
Steel? Don't be an airhead
@dankcincy 4 ай бұрын
Says the person that can't use 3d modeling software. Lol Why would we use some half baked, cobbled together solution when we can model and print Exactly what we want?
@JustKeepLivingFPV 4 ай бұрын
I was going to do this however after I rotated the spool 90° the shaking is not as bad, also after i updated the input with the g sensor it has begun countering its vibration better.
@mickafr4519 4 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for another great video! Personally I already have a reinforcement, I found the model before your video, but it is true that it can greatly help especially at high speed. In your opinion, what speed and acceleration should be used for PLA, PETG and ABS/AS to get maximum print quality? Print speed is not a problem for me. Thanks in advance for your help :)
@michaelsaenz5638 4 ай бұрын
"And now we can add the M5 locknuts"
@johanpersson8645 4 ай бұрын
I dont need brase on my ke. Print perfekt. I print 36h promts back to back.
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Das ist gut, meine freund. I'm only guessing that you speak German due to your spelling of Perfect.
@mijaiscares8580 2 ай бұрын
Did u solve the problems related to under extrusion on this machine?
@Reds3DPrinting 4 ай бұрын
OMG I wanna make these for my v3 just because of how cool they look... ALSO the v3 will now be the only ender without support rods/arms :*(
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
That's true, the metal framed V3 seems pretty stiff, I can't say whether that'll be the case for the Plus-sized model though. There are some free threaded holes on the back of the metal frame though... maybe it could get an upgrade at some point. I'd want to do it in metal... or perhaps wood though.
@Reds3DPrinting 4 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt That would be super neat to see! Do you think wood would better help with Vibrations??
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
@@Reds3DPrinting It depends on the type of wood, something like maple, or ash, anything hard would work well. Even though I'm a Woodworker, I don't show it much because it's not really something everyone can do, but if you think it would be interesting, I can try to include it in some videos. The combo of printing and wood is super appealing and I love the look of the combo, especially black prints with something with some nice grain, like Cherry.
@bhamdodger 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't the ADXL345 Vibration Compensation Sensor take care of this problem?
@NeedItMakeIt 3 ай бұрын
This printer doesn't have the sensor on it, and maybe it would help a little bit, the sensor needs to be positioned on the X, measurements taken, then the Y and the same process is run, there is no active vibration dampening on this printer, which means that when the mass of the print changes, so does the vibration. I've read that the results of the sensor for this printer are inconclusive. I'd still like to try it myself to be sure, but I have a feeling that what I've read about it is right.
@hugore293 4 ай бұрын
Where can I find the printed bed slinger? The only problem I'm having with the printer atm is a kinda uneven layer height I have both the linear rails and gantry supports
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
Do you mean the replacement for the steel plate below the bed? If so, I have to fine-tune a few details and then I'll be ready to release it to everyone.
@CalvinBarnard-ky4wz 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Just out of curiosity, have you found the solution to the poor print quality on the KE? Been having very similar print quality to your previous videos
@robertpearson1981 2 ай бұрын
Do u happen to sell both of the upgrades I like both the upgrades you did.
@NeedItMakeIt 2 ай бұрын
I don't really do prints for other people, with shipping and material etc. it isn't justifiable at this time. I'm sure there are sites you can have models printed from someone local. If there isn't a site like that, there should be so you can save on shipping.
@mijaiscares8580 2 ай бұрын
Did u notice if input shaping improve with those arms?
@NeedItMakeIt 2 ай бұрын
This printer isn't so nice for input shaping, it lacks the g-sensors from factory. I'd need to buy the kit and install and re-run to gather the results. I'm willing to do it though.
@gorg45pro Ай бұрын
Do you have to open holes on the printer?
@tombeam 3 ай бұрын
Have youthought of doing a 90 degree bearinged spool holder?
@NeedItMakeIt 3 ай бұрын
I think that's a great idea, I'm trying to get back to this printer, I have to fix the extrusion issue and I have an extruder now, but I need to finish up a few more videos first.
@EarthquakeCL 4 ай бұрын
Hola, en mi caso tenia mas desviacion en los perfiles, pero no queria perforar y dañar la impresora por garantia, asi que hice el diseño de Hapedevee thing:6516352 y logre cuadrar, luego nivele la cama con ciertos oring (Pero use el Remix que es mas facil sujetar) printables 733411 y logre tener mi cama casi todo a 0.0
@EarthquakeCL 4 ай бұрын
I use in a V3 SE
@boss939__ 2 ай бұрын
could i use pla for this ang get the same results?
@noobt4eguns 7 күн бұрын
Where i can find the stl free for that?
@fatihaydn2319 4 ай бұрын
How is the CR-10 SE model? I searched for your previous videos but couldn't find a review for it. CR-10 SE has liner rails in both axes. I wonder if it is better than the ender 3 v3 ke model. Can you share your ideas please?
@user-jk3ij6mf7f 4 ай бұрын
Very cool!!! Thanks!
@NeedItMakeIt 4 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@deviatixn2202 3 ай бұрын
So how much this mod did? On simple Ender 3 we have full-threaded stud mod, that made out of metal and its very solid, also have hex nuts for some calibration at tension and its connected directly to the frame (4040 profiles). So, i think plastic arms not that good?
@NeedItMakeIt 3 ай бұрын
The original enders are far more stiff, these profiles connect into the plastic base, and they are smaller as well. It would have been better to still use the original Ender 3 frame IMO, and attach the parts to that. I think this was done as as cost-saving measure.
@deviatixn2202 3 ай бұрын
@@NeedItMakeIt There is a meme in the community that after modifications from Ender 3 only its frame remains, the rest has been replaced
@Juiblex 2 ай бұрын
Is it also valid for cr-10 se or is it necessary?
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