Steam Deck Competitors Seem Defeated

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I feel like MSI and ASUS are playing a different game than Valve. They seem to be trying to brute force their handhelds, while Valve goes for a more nuanced and finesse approach. Either way you shake it, if they play games better, and for longer, its going to be very interesting to see what happens with the handheld pc space.
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@thegamingbayskeletor1637 Ай бұрын

>Valve >Does nothing >Competition just keep shooting themselves in the foot

@astro837 15 күн бұрын

@@thegamingbayskeletor1637 valve wins by doing absolutly nothing

@teamofone1219 14 күн бұрын

Lawyers: That makes them a monopoly 😭😭😭

@SlimbTheSlime 12 күн бұрын

It's their tried and true method.

@MaxwellTornado 12 күн бұрын

That's what going public gets you. (I'm assuming ASUS and MSI are public.)

@hueypautonoman Ай бұрын

As a Linux user, I'm completely biased in favor of the Steam Deck, but with that disclaimer out of the way, I'll say the big difference is that Valve is a software company. To be fair to all these competitors, they're hardware companies. They know how to make hardware quickly and effectively, ship it out to customers and let the customers worry about fiddling with Windows, overclocking, etc. The idea of creating a handheld gaming device that works well and has the longevity and stability of a console is just not in their wheelhouse.

@josephmclord Ай бұрын

Do you think Xbox handheld (even if it’s actually a real thing) can be a good device? Not only will it run the console level OS. It will also come from a company that has been making consoles. (At this point Microsoft should just come out with an Xbox OS or windows OS for 3rd party devices)

@celtycelluloid Ай бұрын

As windows user, I don't feel need to be worried about fiddling with Windows on my Ally. Most time i feel excatly the same as my steam deck. Both of them can have minor issues when playing some games or running mods, etc. I can't remember the last time I got an error on my Ally or steam deck and I almost play them daily. I don't think steam os can repalce windows at the moment. however, if sony releas a new PSP that plays native PS games, i will drop both of them and buy that device day one.

@vilian9185 Ай бұрын

@@josephmclord maybe, but they are gonna be killing the xbox lol

@Justathought81 Ай бұрын

Reminds me of the battle between Apple and Android, you don’t win Apple users over with hardware but software that works well for a very long time

@TheDragonfriday Ай бұрын

@josephmclord most likely not.... you saw how they treated there own ip horribly when they don't see monet roll they my give up and abandon it early but valve I trust them more even when they abandon the product, they will still continue to update like the steam controller.

@MansakeLabsOfficial Ай бұрын

(Looks at not Steam Deck handheld PC market) (Holds up Steam Deck) "Yeah, but I can afford this"

@cangel8563 Ай бұрын

It's always been the issue with pc handhelds. Are most of them cool? Yes but they're not worth it, usually clunky with a poor battery life. That's where the steam deck wins. If I listened to myself I'd probably buy one of the overpriced ones but.. they're simply not that great. Raw power isn't everything you look for in a handheld, else you just get a normal computer.

@treywilson9212 Ай бұрын

@@cangel8563 lenovo legion go is absolutely amazing man im coming from a gaming pc and im blown away with the lenovos gaming capabilities

@robotsix6268 23 күн бұрын

The biggest difference is Valve is PRIVATELY owned. Every decision, good or bad is on Valve.

@mannather 17 күн бұрын

Just to add to this: Larian Studios, the company behind Baldur's Gate 3 and Divinity 2, is also privately owned. Larian also gave an update for all copies of Divinity 2 adding "Gift Bags"...which were essentially Divinity 2's most popular mods on PC made official because modding was impossible on console. That's some next level dedication there. While it's rare to see companies privately owned these days, it does feel like a major factor into how good companies can remain good. (well, no company is 100% good but you get my point).

@dominik94rausch 14 күн бұрын

This is soooo true. Today’s (gaming) industry is where companies bend over backwards to shower dividends upon their beloved shareholders, all while trimming jobs, outsourcing labor, and squeezing every penny from their products and customers.

@ClipperFanW 10 күн бұрын

@@mannather Larian is not privately owned. Tencent owns 30% of the company while Swen and his wife own 70%

@mannather 10 күн бұрын

@@ClipperFanW Fair enough but even in that scenario, Larian is public in name alone. Tencent can request anything but if Swen and his wife disagree with Tencent, Tencent's request is effectively veto'd by a majority vote. Owning 51% of the company provides 100% of the control. It's partially why facebook has been failing because Mark Zuckerberg kept over 50% of the shares for himself so no-one can veto is propositions or opinions. Any decision that may make it better must get Zuckerberg's vote or it's doomed.

@niceleverace Ай бұрын

This ai thing reminds me when every company called their product smart. Remember the smart juicer, where you have to use their proprietary juice bags to put in it.

@ActionGamerAaron Ай бұрын

You mean the Juicero.

@niceleverace Ай бұрын

@ActionGamerAaron yep lol. Has to be in the top 10 worst kickstarters imo.

@winkblink8636 Ай бұрын

Dude that's so true hahaha

@suroguner Ай бұрын

man, that was "Dumb"

@grimgoreironhide9985 Ай бұрын

@@ActionGamerAaron It was an over engineered product. EEVBlog did a teardown and it was criminal how such expensive components were used for something which required not much force to press a juice bad.

@normaniglesias8446 Ай бұрын

Used all handhelds but sticking with the switch and Steam Deck, steamOS is a game changer.

@dedmin6119 Ай бұрын

Two best (non retro) handhelds. Couldn't pay me to get a windows handheld unless they make a proper OS for it

@paulwilliams2024 Ай бұрын

Steam deck is great till you need to play a game that’s not verified for steam deck . I love my steam deck but the asus ally runs all the games I can run my steam deck plus much more !

@jf2p712 Ай бұрын

Even my switch has been collecting dust since getting the SD OLED. I just clicked this video cause it said steam deck lol, I dont follow any more news about new handhelds or anything like that. There is just no need for me personally. I play all the games I want on the deck handheld or docked. Helldivers 2 has been a riot haha. I dont need to play with high graphic settings. I can remote play my ps5 with the deck and that actually got me to dust off the ol ps5 and play it more than I ever did without the steam deck.

@sophieedel6324 Ай бұрын

SteamOS might work if you only use offline Steam games. The moment you use Online games, Epic, GOG, Ubisoft, EA, Emulators, etc....Steam Deck is a complete mess.

@Kaylas1821 Ай бұрын

It changes nothing except adding need to fiddle with os just to install the game outside of steam

@das2003 Ай бұрын

The ROG Ally Xcluding warranty

@Eevolved35 Ай бұрын

I like that one 😂

@n64slayer Ай бұрын

Maybe read the warranty terms before buying it and then complaining, just saying

@das2003 Ай бұрын

@@n64slayer it's a joke.

@Arc_Lab Ай бұрын

Good one lol

@reluttr2 Ай бұрын

@@n64slayer The warranty thing comes from Asus using shady, and likely illegal, methods to circumvent warranty coverage on hardware faults that absolutely should be covered by the manufacturer warranty they provide upon purchase. One of the more recent things they pulled was using hidden TOS changes in a bios update, which provided essential voltage correction on intel cpus due to a factory mistake, to essentially void customer manufacturer warranties early.

@nyjay Ай бұрын

The X stands for: “don’t trust our warranty”… 😂 knee slap

@TheSupasonic82 Ай бұрын

Pls mind, that in the EU we don´t need to, as we have mandatory law for 2 years :)

@LemonRush7777 Ай бұрын

Rog Ally "Press X to Doubt" Edition

@Dr80SK Ай бұрын

@@TheSupasonic82 yes we have but Zephyrus 14" really can have leaked liquid metal (I was working in autorized service for some time), Czech autorized service dennied warranty on one, we approved it and did mobo swap (it was send to RMA second time and we been lucky to get it). This is the case where you are lost if technician is idiot, Asus will make it as CID and you can go to court with it without chance of success. Thats why you cant trust Asus anywhere lol. We were doing that kind of thing like happened in gamers nexus case but only if device were looking like if somebody beaten it with baseball bat and it was something that was making device hardly usable 😂 not if there was some small scratch like on rog ally of gamers nexus

@plastikloser Ай бұрын

The Rma nightmare from asus is enough to keep me away. I dont want to fight with a company when something breaks

@andrewbennett3765 Ай бұрын

Got a Steam Deck. Haven't looked back. This thing fixed my issues with PC gaming. Don't plan to play new AAA titles. Cyberpunk is probably my newest game I have and it's verified and runs well. Having the best graphics is not something I care about. I can play my backlog of games on steam or get into some older titles I never played. As a busy dad, it's a win win for me.

@Fernando-ek8jp Ай бұрын

Absolutely. Since before the Steam Deck came out I was saying that people who believed that the Deck would be an utter powerhouse were out to lunch. My expectations were: indies and backlog. I still ended up playing some higher end games (I have no issues just throwing all graphics to low if I can hit 40fps), or streaming from my now aging but still capable desktop

@johernandez266 Ай бұрын

Got my Deck mainly for Emulation of Retro and single player backlog.

@jessephillips8319 Ай бұрын

@@Fernando-ek8jpI often forget that I play some games streaming. So when a game "doesn't work on deck" I'm all, strange, works for me. Machine is Linux too, so that adds to my confusion.

@Fernando-ek8jp Ай бұрын

@@jessephillips8319 When you say "doesn't work on deck" do you mean that you try to run it on the deck and it borks out, or games that are said to not work on deck?

@jessephillips8319 Ай бұрын

@@Fernando-ek8jp I'm referring to others comments/reports that it doesn't work.

@Hatecrewdethrol Ай бұрын

The other thing is that even the people who choose these other handhelds over a steamdeck, the vast majority of them will be using steam on said device so it will result in a net increase in steam sales

@enya64 Ай бұрын

Exactly. Get the other handhelds that run faster, and use Steam and GamePass on them.

@pilcrow182 Ай бұрын

Exactly. These aren't "competition" to Valve. They're an increase to Valve's sales. They knew what they were doing when they kicked off this handheld PC craze. They carved out a price niche that nothing else can compete with, and they will continue to stay in that niche even when a Deck 2 is released, because they don't need to be the most powerful. If someone wants more power, Valve has no problem with them buying a Windows PC from Ayaneo, Ayn, Asus, MSI, Lenovo, Zotac, because it'll still mean profits for Valve either way. More funding to put into better development of future Decks without needing to worry about failure.

@pilcrow182 Ай бұрын

@@PBJA89 Not really. The Steam Machines started coming out in 2015, and a handheld one was planned. Then valve saw the public response to too much hardware variety combined with SteamOS's inability to play Windows games, and pulled the plug on that handheld until they could come back with a better product. The Switch's release in the meantime was kind of a coincidence; Valve was working on their own handheld gaming PC since before Ninty released their Switch. Not to mention, the Switch isn't a PC. They kind of appeal to a different audience. Companies like GPD had already been releasing their own handheld PCs for years, but the Steam Deck was the first one with enough raw gaming power to attract the masses, kicking off the craze of *other* companies developing handheld PCs as well.

@Hatecrewdethrol Ай бұрын

@@PBJA89 calling the switch a handheld PC instead of a console is, at best, disingenuous and at worst outright dishonest

@GigaWhatt0 24 күн бұрын

@@PBJA89 The GPD Win predates the Switch though?

@nickredmon6998 Ай бұрын

The dofference is Valve is treating their handheld console like a console, the other brands are treating them like Pcs that are "trash" after half a year of tech advancement.

@carlosdgutierrez6570 Ай бұрын

Maybe Asus, but Lenovo has been quite upfront and quick to address the concerns of the community, hell, they even engage with the community in the non-offical Legion Go reddit. Yes, you can argue that Lenovo doesn't go as far as Valve, yet they are the second place in customer service currently, way ahead of the shit storm that Asus did and the complete travesty of that MSI is selling. And the Ayaneo systems? Do they even offer post sale customer service?

@nickredmon6998 Ай бұрын

@@carlosdgutierrez6570 Glad to hear Ole Lenovo is giving good support. They tend to build pretty good machines form what I hear, I've only ever used thinkpads at school though.

@innavoiglopez 22 күн бұрын

Lenovo has done a great job making the LeGo a beast of a handheld. They have really put their years of experience in creating laptops into their hand held and its delivered so well since it came out. To think they all have similar processor but Lenovo has really pushed the boundaries of what the gpu and the processor could do. Gaming triple A titles on your LeGo on the couch, in bed, is fantastic.

@oscopin74 Ай бұрын

I would not buy a mobile PC platform without trackpads.

@alvind614 Ай бұрын

The reason I am excited for Zotac Zone.

@suroguner Ай бұрын

The track pads on the steam deck wound up being more of a game changer than I expected. Literally too.

@redfin382 Ай бұрын

I never use the track pads.

@mterakedis Ай бұрын

If new Ally had even one, I would jump on it.

@theabyss18 Ай бұрын

I thought that they would be useless, but they are more than useful (especally in games that have no controller support.)

@AdamRBlue Ай бұрын

I think there's a big difference between a Steam Deck and a Windows handheld.

@gymggang46 Ай бұрын

@GHOSTSTARSCREAMgood question

@Steelninja77 Ай бұрын

Yeah Rog ally is better steamdeck just has an easier OS but doesn't run half the games and most need tweaking the compatibility for worse performance. Trust me I have both and Rog ally wins. just for performance screw user interface.

@deadman4167 Ай бұрын

@@Steelninja77 At the cost of half the battery life, meaning the Elden Ring that I can play for 3 1/2 hours on my steam deck at locked 36 fps can't be done the same on Rog Ally

@MrJustek Ай бұрын

@@deadman4167 Ally X destroys that idea bro. And things are only going to get better for windows handhelds and worse for the current steam deck. Can't you guys just take an L? The steam deck is old as heck and the oled will only hold up for so long.....It's time for a steam deck 2, stop sucking the steam deck 1's deck!

@user-rl2jl8zx1c Ай бұрын

@@MrJustek ROG X is 800$ tho.

@emiliosanchez4610 Ай бұрын

To be honest it's not the higher performance for me. It's the price, battery life and repairability that is everything to me. If a handheld's shortcoming is even one of those three I will most likely not even consider it as a real alternative.

@malcolmar Ай бұрын

Agreed!

@aquapendulum Ай бұрын

GPD has been the most successful competitor to the Steam Deck because: - They actually created this market with the GPD Win 1 in 2015. They were actually the market leader before Valve entered and will always have the First Mover Advantage. - They offer a form factor that neither Valve nor other handheld gaming PC manufacturers offer: Clamshell. - No matter the model and form factor, the GPD Win lineup has never abandoned a dedicated keyboard, which really helps with the experience of using Windows on a handheld. - A dedicated physical switch to change the joysticks between mouse mode and gamepad mode is still a GPD-exclusive feature to this day.

@Winnetou17 Ай бұрын

GPD really needs more attention and love.

@guitarskooter Ай бұрын

GPD may have been the initial creator, but Valve made it an actual market and not just some overpriced hobbyist group. Innovation always evolves on the backs of others. iPhones and Android lead the smart phone industry, but old rotary phones we're the first. Does that mean old rotary phone companies were the most successful? The one plus size is GPD and Aya and some of these other companies are actually pricing their devices at competitive prices now and not gouging the consumers so much. Too bad they release a new product like every 2 months. They are going to be the Blackberry of cell phones.

@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 Ай бұрын

What is gpd

@Winnetou17 Ай бұрын

@@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753 A crowfunded gaming handheld. Search on Google or Wikipedia "GPD Win"

@jessephillips8319 Ай бұрын

None of your mentioned points support them being the most successful competitor. But you have one thing, Valve is the most successful competitor to GPD. GPD has to provide different form factors because they can't compete on OS.

@JBone_Capone Ай бұрын

Strange there’s no mention of the Legion Go… Got the LeGo a couple months ago where I’ve been away from home, and don’t have my PC. It was between that, or the steamdeck OLED, and I was very close to getting the steamdeck. Went with the LeGo because I’m almost always near an outlet anyways, I’m familiar with Windows, there’s no compatibility issues with any game I want to play, and emulation’s a breeze. Not upset with my decision at all. Haven’t been able to put it down. If windows makes a portable OS similar to the deck, provide’s some upgradability, and a better battery? The deck will have some serious competition.

@JosephEllis-ep7sg 24 күн бұрын

I run Bazzite on mine and it's insanely good.

@darshankumawat1764 23 күн бұрын

Emulation is better on linux imo tho.

@kaybeeva 22 күн бұрын

I'm really glad that you brought up the Lenovo Legion Go cause it really seems like the highest peak of performance while being the best of both worlds.

@or1on89 19 күн бұрын

SteamOS is better for emulation and honestly there is barely any game not working on Steam Deck these days...they even managed to get fixes for anti-cheats.

@JBone_Capone 19 күн бұрын

@@or1on89 Oh, I have no doubt valve’s doing a great job with the deck. I still think it’s gonna be hard to dethrone them in the portable market. It was neck and neck between my getting one vs. the lego. Glad to see there’s some competition though, and I love my LeGo.

@dequaleg Ай бұрын

I feel like with the all the handheld PCs it's just history repeating itself the Sega Game gear was more powerful and had a colour screen but everyone still bought the OG gameboy because of the battery life

@xXYannuschXx 19 күн бұрын

To be fair, during the 2D era more powerful hardware wasnt that easily visible in games having better graphics, atleast not to the majority of customers. But you are right, performance alone doesnt make a device great; especially if the negative outweight the positives.

@GraveUypo 19 күн бұрын

@@xXYannuschXx of course it was. the difference was massive. it was actually easier to make out differences than it is now

@weichiang89 Ай бұрын

I remember the Gameboy with a monochrome screen dominating the Game Gear and other color display competitors years ago. Steam Deck just doing its own thing.

@swirl44 Ай бұрын

While the space itself is experiencing a lot of issues, let's just take a minute to celebrate handheld gaming as a whole. The sheer amount of competition is awesome. I can't wait to see it 5-10 years from now.

@strated1079 Ай бұрын

heck yah I agree. I have a crazy pc rig but I cannot wait until one day the gap can close in on it more to where I can just phase out pc. It will definitely happen! Won't ever truly replace, but the future is exciting here.

@punani_slayer4209 Ай бұрын

@@strated1079 man i wish i was born later so i could properly enjoy that era. In 5-10 years I'll be way too old and busy to be able to enjoy it properly

@anjabenn Ай бұрын

I sold my Steam Deck for a Legion Go. I wanted to play games that aren't playable on Steam OS. I wanted more performance. I also wanted a USB4 port for an egpu. I'm fine booting into Playnite and not bothering with Legion Space. I'm fine with using 3d printed grips to improve the ergonomics of the Legion Go. Is the experience on the Legion Go as optimized as on the Steam Deck? Definitely not. However, the Steam Deck does not provide the experience that I'm looking for, and the Legion Go does. Thats ultimately what it came down to for me, and I'm happy with my decision.

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

That sounds perfect.

@gremy1987 Ай бұрын

Same for me, in January I was for the lookout for a handheld because I don't play as much in my Computer (Zephyrus G14). I saw the SD and the Ally and was hesitant but when I saw the Legion Go I just knew that was the One, got it and haven't looked back since then. I just improve battery live by having a powerbank, because I play mostly in bed.

@Mmmmmk247 Ай бұрын

Same but for the Ally X. Just waiting on it to show up. Need windows for literally everything outside steam. Linux has been hard to learn when your kinda a noob and used windows your whole life

@Thehandheldguy402 Ай бұрын

I put bazzite os on my legion go and it's amazing. It's like I have a high performance steam deck and it's dual boot so I still have windows so I can play other games steam os can't

@jrlabanza Ай бұрын

Same. I love my Legion go 🥰

@Lol-jl9sm Ай бұрын

Whatever happened to that Alienware UFO handheld? It was announced years ago, I think.

@sdbegotist Ай бұрын

2020, little bit before lockdown. It’s surprising since we saw it before the Steam Deck. I believe it was meant to demo Iris Xe Graphics, and it’s possible Intel focused on their GPU card after the sudden demand from lockdown. Only reason I can think why Alienware didn’t continue with the UFO concept was on a mixture of bespoke hardware and potential cannibalism from their laptop line.

@stevefury90 Ай бұрын

Your track-pads tutorials are the best ones in this side of the sea.

@Chris-bd6ll Ай бұрын

Great video first time I seen your channel, question though. What is that awesome screensaver in the background?

@jlOGSLICK Ай бұрын

Gotta say that, for me, the two biggest selling points are 1) can I play all my games easily (including Game Pass and PS5 streaming) and 2) Screen Size for immersion. That said, I ditched my Steam Deck (LCD) for the Legion Go and haven't had to look back because I haven't had a single issue with it. If you haven't tried the 8.8" inch screen (a difference of 6.5 square inches), give it a whirl before you choose.

@smidlee7747 Ай бұрын

I agree with you which is why these handhelds haven't replace my gaming laptop, even my 7 year old gaming laptop can outperform these handhelds. I prefer a 17" screen over these smaller screens. Handhelds are mostly just to play on the go when there is no plug in. If there's a plug in then I will take my laptop.

@gamegoblin1 Ай бұрын

Jim carrey: ohhh, I'm gonna getcha..its the CLAW!!

@grimzreapersunage Ай бұрын

Great summary of all the devices and exactly what's going on with these companies. I've yet to buy a handheld of this nature, I was a day away from buying an oled steamdeck when I saw the announcement and the specifications for the Ally X. I really hope the Ally X performs well, otherwise I will have delayed my purchase of a steamdeck by another month. They sell out within a day of restocking where I live, so it's very difficult.

@salocin9009 Ай бұрын

Two companies suddenly finding a way to fit a much larger battery into their handhelds kinda makes it feel like it coulda been done on the first generation but they needed a reason to release a new product one year later, battery life was the biggest weakness of PC handhelds so I’m sure a lot of people are going to jump on these new ones for the extra hour away from the wall.

@JaggedJack1 Ай бұрын

I don't see either of the video links you mentioned in your video. I am interested in that video tutorial on the steam deck trackpads.

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

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@sheldonzs Ай бұрын

On the one hand, as a legion go user I'm as that you don't mention the Legion Go as a competitor in the handheld space, but considering how much time you spent dunking on Asus and MSI, I'm glad you don't have beef with them, hahaha

@CrazyPCgamercatguy Ай бұрын

Do you think there is going to be a sale of the Steam Deck soon? Is there any chance to get a Steam Deck 2 release in the near future?

@candiedfir7 24 күн бұрын

There is SD LCD sale in Steam right now :)

@drunkinmaster1 Ай бұрын

I remember when steam deck first came out tut people where eager the dual-boot windows os onto their steam deck. Nobody wants to run spread sheets on their mobile device

@GraveUypo 19 күн бұрын

i did install windows on my deck. but i've since deleted it. the jank is just awful even with 3rd party software like "handheld companion" trying to make it less worse so i ended up deleting windows. i didn't even have to, my deck has a 2tb ssd.

@TigerTT Ай бұрын

There are so many games in my Steam backlog that won't even launch on my Steam Deck, that alone made me get a Windows handheld instead. But I use my Deck for mainly emulation now.

@sophieedel6324 Ай бұрын

The target audience for Steam Deck seems to be a specific audience that plays single-player Steam games. And Steam Deck actually works fine for that. But if you want to play online games, use Epic/GOG/Ubisoft/EA, you are in big trouble with a complete lack of native support on Linux like SteamOS.

@conchobar Ай бұрын

I spent way more time on ProtonDB trying to get my games to work on Steam Deck than I ever did fiddling with Windows on my Ally. Proton support is much better than it was a year ago, but there are still thousands of games that aren't supported and most of them don't even use anti-cheat.

@Kaylas1821 Ай бұрын

@@sophieedel6324 not actually in big trouble, there are ways to use all those launchers, but some games still won't launch (gog: alan wake, witcher 2) or have weird issues (gog witcher 3 not loading textures properly)

@theviniso Ай бұрын

@@sophieedel6324 Can't say much about Uplay or Origin but most Epic and GOG titlesl run perfectly fine on the Deck.

@joshuawalker7038 Ай бұрын

Out of all the competitors I’d probably grab the Ally x,but I’m holding off for that rumored Xbox handheld

@SheddysGaming Ай бұрын

That's been my thing. I bought the original gpd win. It was pretty cool. But I want to be part of an ecosystem that relies on my long term support and, subsequently, will actually bother to help if things go bad. Valve Xbox Sony or Nintendo. No one else can promise that.

@MrRoundthetwist Ай бұрын

Rumoured new PSP might be an option also

@awolsam Ай бұрын

I don't understand why one would want a Xbox handheld, assuming it would be like a console and locked to Microsofts store. Freedom to do anything you want is the best thing with the current PC handheld.

@TheFancifulNorwegian Ай бұрын

I think it's all but certain the X/S is the end of the line for the Xbox as we know it. I could see MS keeping the brand alive for a Steam-style PC ecosystem, and I could see them releasing a Steam Deck-style handheld to go along with it... but even if it's a great piece of hardware, why wouldn't I just install Steam on it instead? The big issue with Xbox is that the hardware is supposed to drive users towards their MS Store/GamePass ecosystem and it hasn't done that at anywhere near the scale they need to actually turn a profit. Abandoning the current console approach to directly take on Steam just seems like throwing good money after bad.

@Mgkamiolo Ай бұрын

Watch it be a cloud streaming device like the ps portal.

@Gizzburt Ай бұрын

Nice to hear you cutting loose a tad and saying the things we are all surely thinking - authenticity is a rare commodity and too often traded away for short term gain. My judgement is that Nerdnest and related contributors simply have higher standards. Keep it up.

@ssgtblackmamba7991 Ай бұрын

I don't know how well it performs, nor am I going to test it myself (seeing as I don't have any of the other handhelds), so my question is: Does anyone know if putting Nobara Steam Deck edition on one of the competitors will create a more powerful system with the Steam deck OS? (let's ignore the battery problem for just a second 😂) I'm genuinely curious.

@KingKraft0867 Ай бұрын

I’m saving up right now to buy an OLED 1Tb steam deck, mainly for emulation, but also for steam games, any games I won’t be able to play on there, I have a pc and a ps5. I’m so excited to be able to order it soon!

@extra4542 Ай бұрын

Personally I recommend a 512gb OLED and replace the SSD with a 1tb yourself. Ends up being around the same price, potentially cheaper if you get a good deal on the SSD. Why? Bc OLED is vastly superior on a glossy screen

@KingKraft0867 Ай бұрын

Is it? That’s not sarcastic, I’ve never had either. And is that the only difference, does the other come with a case? And I’ve never opened any tech, although I would love to, is that pretty easy or how would it be on a scale from 1-10 also I really appreciate u telling me this.

@bangleyjelly Ай бұрын

@@KingKraft0867 pretty sure they all come with cases.

@KingKraft0867 Ай бұрын

Thanks I’ll get the 512 OLED model. I really appreciate it guys

@MasterMooper Ай бұрын

I think you can even get 2tb SSDs but don’t forget you can get an SD card. They are slower but tons of games will be just fine on those.

@jcmk3829 Ай бұрын

I'm gonna wait till all the bad launch units are out the door then pick a rog ally x up close to the holidays

@thundergato84 Ай бұрын

Same. I'll get it on sale or an open box at Best Buy.

@TheEldanu79 Ай бұрын

I have seen the XPG "NIA" handheld pc and it looks very promising with many things that the others do not offer

@Justathought81 Ай бұрын

Got a SDeck Oled on the way, I feel like I won’t really use it but we will see, mainly thinking about older games and emulation.

@capnmoby9295 Ай бұрын

I'm also having trouble picking which handheld to buy, rn I'm holding off and waiting for allyx's release, and if it's as good as asus says it to be then I'd buy it. Steamdeck though... there's something just so peaceful with knowing once your deck arrives you can just download a game and start playing, with ally on the other hand you'll have to setup your microsoft account yet again, download all the software you need, setup your gmail accounts your launchers and tinkering with windows so it can run games without hitch.. Jeeez ☠️ Steam Deck ease of use 100% Ally Powerhouse on the go but it's a pc in disguise of a handheld

@dxtremecaliber Ай бұрын

@@capnmoby9295Also im not playing newer titles on an portable because i already have and PS5 and Gaming PC for that same reason why i dont play third party games on the Switch lol

@cqllel5186 Ай бұрын

AAAs and graphically intense games in general are just bad on any handheld That's the top less-than-1% of the entire PC library That other half, the 99%+, performance won't even be a concern. All you gotta worry about is pulling as few watts as possible I keep my intensive/large games on PC. My Deck is for literally errything else. 2D/sidescrollers, JRPGs, visual novels, OG games, etc. These games consume 95% of my playtime

@illusionsounds Ай бұрын

sold my steamdeck bought a legion go and happy with it

@stankozniewski9385 Ай бұрын

Same here

@treywilson9212 Ай бұрын

same

@Eevolved35 Ай бұрын

Same!

@alejandrovallejo6763 Ай бұрын

I think those 2 are the best options, the Steamdeck is king but if you have the extra buck and want something more the Legion GO is the way to go.

@Robwabo Ай бұрын

Same but with the ROG Ally. It’s nice not having to go through proton to get games to work.

@X862go Ай бұрын

I still pick my Ally for all modern games. The steamdeck has been left to emulation.

@MithosDagon Ай бұрын

I also prefer my ROG Ally for emulation as well since it I’m not the biggest fan of Emudeck or emulation station. I playnite as my emulation front end

@maxdave9590 Ай бұрын

@@shto4782 Well, you can stick behind with your Steamdeck, while we all advance with a powerful device which will get better and better

@Jur1_00 Ай бұрын

@@shto4782 I honestly don't get the hate for windows. I was dualbooting steamos with windows for a while and I didn't have issues with it. I was running windows 10 and with all windows install I do I usually run a script to disable all feature updates

@sophieedel6324 Ай бұрын

@@shto4782 Honestly, there's a reason 98% of gamers run Windows and not Linux. Games are designed for Windows and work best on Windows. On the Steam Deck with Linux, some games work, but many do not. Getting another game launcher to work is also not simple. Steam Deck is kind of like an Apple device, it tries to lock you into the Steam ecosystem.

@tinersee Ай бұрын

@@sophieedel6324 you can install heroic games or lutris for other platforms.

@shann00143 Ай бұрын

Its my first time running into your channel/ video uploads, i was caught by suprise i thought you were Michael Ironside from his late 30's early 40's 😅 with a little pinch of David Cross from some angles 😅

@HaxHaunter 28 күн бұрын

I swear I heard just the name of that MSI thing and thought it was named Clot lol

@timothymorgan1175 Ай бұрын

For me, I am getting a Legion Go. I was thinking of a ASUS,but after all the crap they have done I will make a hard pass. MSI I was mixed on. Now why don't I get a Steam Deck. I don't use Steam. I get all my games on GOG. Yes, I don't get the latest games,that is why I have a PS5. I am mainly a single player, so not live service,MMOs. Just single player games. I also love that all games on GOG are DRM-Free. And the Legion Go, because it's Windows, I can play my games,and don't have to be on line to install them.

@RaphsSilva Ай бұрын

I have one legion go and steam deck and legion go is a better handheld, the screen is not even comparable.

@victor1882 Ай бұрын

The Legion Go is always forgotten in these comparisons for some reason, and is one the best handhelds with the least issues. Pair with Bazzite and you got yourself a better Steam Deck.

@reiniermoreno1653 Ай бұрын

@@victor1882because the legion go is too expensive but is worth, is the best you can have, if you choose "cheap" the go for SD, if you want the top tier then go for lenovo, between them are fighthing the Ally and Claw for who have the best of both extremes

@Sh1ekk Ай бұрын

@@victor1882"better steam deck" Uhm, no. But sure, get fooled by bigger numbers. 😂

@victor1882 Ай бұрын

@@Sh1ekk yes, been doing it for months now

@salazarRE4 Ай бұрын

After I bought the Legion Go and set up dual boot with Bazzite OS, I never wanted to touch the Steam Deck again. Gimmicks are a big part of what make a portable device worth it, and basically now I have a better Steam Deck with detachable controllers and better screen but with worse battery life

@nickk.kalogeras6983 Ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly.!!! Even if the battery life is worse than Steam Deck, the screen makes up for it!!! Lenovo should have provided, an "official" Linux Distro as an alternative. (Manjaro would jump at the chance to make a version of its distro for the Go).

@RydalWiz Ай бұрын

Man I laughed all thought this video!! I am absolutely subscribing

@MitchJanssen1 Ай бұрын

Thanks for mentioning Asus warranty issue, it's pretty well known across us geeks but not the masses so i appreciate any exposure of it.

@neil_gg_ Ай бұрын

I'm always near an outlet when I use my handheld PC. That's why I have no issue with the Ally's battery life.

@PistolShrimpPimp Ай бұрын

I will never get a handheld without trackpads. When you set them up correctly, joysticks suck in comparison

@dukenukem7043 Ай бұрын

steam deck is so much better imo. you should make the switch honestly

@Grarlic Ай бұрын

My PC is near an outlet.

@GraveUypo 19 күн бұрын

to be honest, i'm okay with the battery life because i hardly want to play anything for longer than the battery lasts. the longest session i had on my steam deck was watching frieren - i watched 11 episodes in a row - and i had my steam deck connected to a projector and to the mains (not that it needed it, the battery easily lasts long enough for that when just watching videos, but i was already docked so why not)

@jc74435 Ай бұрын

Ally X will be great

@snowthearcticfox1 Ай бұрын

It's an Asus product, it's destined for mediocrity

@X862go Ай бұрын

I can't wait 👌

@Andy-xn1lz Ай бұрын

They are all great. You can play AAA games on a handheld now. Thats phenomenal

@allenfrisch Ай бұрын

Agreed. I think it addresses every one of the legitimate criticisms of the original unit. Hopefully a better repair and return policy will address the remaining outstanding issues!

@caliguy44 Ай бұрын

I have a steam deck oled but still in the market for a windows handheld. The problem is once the power and battery is there looking steam deck 2 probably comes out too and ill end up getting that instead.

@zoeysa711 Ай бұрын

A new competitor entered the field: ZOTAC zone is the next challenger

@DuffManGaming Ай бұрын

I bought a Legion Go 3 months ago. My steam deck only gets used when my wife wants to play a pc game with me lol. No hate toward my deck. Its been a great device! But I much prefer my LeGo now for handheld gaming. My Switch sits on the dock unused day in and day out lmao

@zacthegamer6145 Ай бұрын

MSI Claw 8 AI is the most exciting handheld among all which is equivalent to next years amd handhelds!

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

I hope the new intel chips are all that they say they are.

@Shark-fj2sz Ай бұрын

@@NerdNest The issue is the XeSS support on games, is FSR as efficient on intel apu as it is on amd apu ?

@Larry 13 күн бұрын

Well, we can always dream about the Smach Z :P

@jessetaplin590 Ай бұрын

The minor AI rant was gold 😂 Love it. Thanks for decluttering some of my brain cells

@Dre2Dee2 Ай бұрын

the Lenovo Legion Go is amazing, but a lot of these products do seem a little lazy

@thundergato84 Ай бұрын

Lenovo has been updating the Go for months now. I wonder if there will be a revision model this year.

@MonkDave666 Ай бұрын

@@thundergato84 Would love to see what a more streamlined, but upgraded one could do - ie. one without the detachable controllers, and an OLED screen.

@cqllel5186 Ай бұрын

They're all lazy Insanely high resolutions and refresh rates (that you'll never use), RGB, higher end hardware. Poor design choices Power efficiency is what makes a handheld superior, not 'muh power' Just bcuz a handheld can handle 2k+ resolution and/or 144fps, doesn't mean it should. What isn't going into performance is going into battery The neglection of batteries and the greedy desire to have impractically high end specs and RGB is what kept PC handhelds completely irrlevant and obsolete for the past decade They refuse to understand that handhelds are portable-first. You're just left with a useless brick that canlt do what it was designed to do well at all: being portable. You're constantly tethered to the wall

@theviniso Ай бұрын

@@cqllel5186 As someone else said, the difference is that all these companies, Lenovo, ASUS, MSI, are hardware companies. That's what they know and that's what they do. Valve, on the other hand, is a software company. They can focus on improving user experience and optimizing their OS for their platform instead of relying/depending on Microsoft.

@christopherseistrup8493 Ай бұрын

Love my Logitech-G Cloud. Quiet, Cool, Emulates on the road, streams games at home. It is just enough for me, and that's perfect.

@sophieedel6324 Ай бұрын

I have seen people being pretty happy with it. The main reason the Logitech is interesting to me is that it is super lightweight and has massive battery life (because it doesn't need to render locally). Yet it can still do emulation on the device. I wish more devices focused on weight and battery life, the Steam deck and Lenovo are massive, I don't like that.

@davidlouis5115 Ай бұрын

Loved seeing that lunar lake requires a minimum of 2 thunderbolt 4 ports. That is one good thing about any handheld with a lunar lake cpu announced

@whiskytangofoxtrot_ Ай бұрын

I will say with the new zotac handheld on the horizon. I may actually look into that if there is a ram upgrade available (or at least a better sku). I just need trackpads and the zotac delivers.

@MBTCxGrouP Ай бұрын

I preordered the Ally X. Got a SD OLED on release and the Ally much later. The SD is really good on the go but it lacks performance on the newest titles. The Ally got the performance but lacks the mobility because of the battery. And now there is the Ally X. The best of both worlds. It has the performance if you need it, it has the battery to play as long as the steam deck (at 15-17W). It can play anything because it has windows. The SD is still the better experience because of SteamOS, but the Ally X will be the better Device…and that’s a fact 🤷‍♂️

@dacbiet Ай бұрын

I’m waiting for Lenovo’s response for the Ally X cause the Ally X seems to be the winner. I really like the LeGo’s screen so I went with that after I sold my Ally.

@aaronrosenberg7880 25 күн бұрын

If you like steamos you can always install something like bazzite. It's not exactly SteamOS BUT it's got all the stuff people like about it (in my opinion it's better but ymmv)

@GraveUypo 19 күн бұрын

i'd still probably install something like chimera OS on an ally if i had it.

@bittertruthnavin Ай бұрын

I have non oled steam deck, ROG Ally and Legion Go. I have never been this hooked with Legion Go, it runs all emulators and all aaa games. Normal file browsing, downloading and file sharing non stop lasted me about 5 hours (non gaming session), gaming about 2 hours, played COD mw2 DMZ its too tiny for me to see other players in pvp but wow so playable on the Legion Go. Steam deck needed so much tinkering to play aaa games and would end up still too slow.

@jeffbwilliams23 Ай бұрын

Truth, have owned all 3 and the LeGo is amazing.

@johncrompton4640 Ай бұрын

I picked up the legion go and been really happy with it especially with the latest drivers

@DrewCarrier 23 күн бұрын

I own both an original steam deck and a Legion Go. The Go has become my preferred device (especially for remote play from my primary desktop) because of the screen and flexibility, but the stock ux software is still to this day wildly underbaked.

@avash2009 Ай бұрын

Ally X . Atleast till steam deck 2 comes out . Its comfortably more powerful and has a crazy good battery . Warranty issues should be fixed now that it was been kind of exposed

@Andy-xn1lz Ай бұрын

Asus warranty issues have been around for years. It’s nothing new. Even the GamersNexus video references that they are reporting a repeat of a similar warranty complaint from the year prior

@sportsngamingtv2246 Ай бұрын

I think the ROG Ally is on top of the PC Handheld world and steam deck is the budget friendly device...just that simple I think most are just fans of steam OS

@Andy-xn1lz Ай бұрын

Unless you prefer a bigger screen then you go to the Legion Go or the Ayaneo Kun.

@Montisaquadeis Ай бұрын

@@Andy-xn1lz yeah I am currently saving up the money to snag myself a Legion Go and should hopefully have it by the end of the year so let's see if they put out a refresh or not by then. Several reasons I am looking at the Legion Go over the Ally SD card being a HUGE one for me I don't want my 1tb card getting killed. Trackpad on the device is another along with mouse mode with the right controller. Being able to remove the controls for couch/bed gaming on the big screen is nice as well

@Kaylas1821 Ай бұрын

@@firstclaims30 why handheld that is not optimized to properly work at lower TDP is the best? They all have pros and cons and it deepends on your use case and priorities.

@reiniermoreno1653 Ай бұрын

Lenovo Legion Go is on top, SD on the budget market and Ally on the middle

@theviniso Ай бұрын

Define being on top. Because if we're talking the best device period, then it's probably the Legion Go with the larger screen and the detachable controllers. I am, however, very much a fan of Steam OS and can see no reason to buy an Ally or Claw over a Steam Deck. Whatever gain in performace they bring over the Deck is not worth having to deal with Windows.

@DogHairDontCare Ай бұрын

I've been happy with my steam deck MOST of the time. docking and mapping controllers sometimes gets buggy. my brother is letting me get his rog ally, so i'll at least get to see what the other side is like soon.

@KaynixAlexander Ай бұрын

I bet Valve will release something like SteamDeck SE - with boosted SoC on it, that could run latest games like Alan Wake 2. And double a battery cap. And after that they can start work on SteamDeck2 on ARM. (mainly proton work x86 -> to > ARM layer).... may be some SteaMachine in between .

@28kingofkings Ай бұрын

Had a conversation with my roommates about the Steam Deck since I’m planning to get one for myself. They keep telling me that the Steam Deck is the iPhone of the handheld PC with it’s unique OS, while the competition are running on Windows making them the Android of the handheld PC

@JujiBoiy09 Ай бұрын

Apples vs. Oranges

@ianCD_ Ай бұрын

Ehh. A bit missleading. The "problem" with iphone and its unique OS is that its hard to customize / modify. SteamOS is a linux distro, that even offers the desktop environment. You can literally do ANYTHING on linux and Steam encourages you to.

@sergeykish Ай бұрын

Microsoft Store strives to lock users, deprecate "side loading" - convert experience to smartphone walled garden, collect 15% on each sale. That's iPhone. SteamOS is Linux, it even ships KDE Desktop, plenty of applications in repo, mainlined drivers. If Valve misbehaves you can switch to fork - that's Android, GrapheneOS on Fairphone.

@hornantuutti5157 Ай бұрын

Your friends aint too smart.

@reiniermoreno1653 Ай бұрын

Comparing SD with iPhones just because they're "uniques" is a total mistake, just to start you can put Windows on the steam deck if you want, but you can't even put stock Android on an iPhone

@randypaputungan6770 Ай бұрын

If the OS still windows then no thanks.

@zeroa69 20 күн бұрын

I have a legion go and its set to boot right into steam big box mode

@FlukasMcDoogle Ай бұрын

I originally had a Steam Deck. I got it for myself for getting my nusring degree at 44. I had to sell it when we moved and were tight on cash. After getting stabilized, I got an ROG Ally Z1X on 100 bucks discount. I've had no problems with it, and some games get netter performance esp in emulation, but windows drives me nuts. I love the steam deck. But.... Im happy enough with steam big picture on the Ally. Im not spending the money to upgrade bc stuff is expensive r now man. I like the ally a lot, and LOVE the Steam Deck, but not enough to sell and rebuy ANOTHER handheld. Thanks for the great content, man! And ty for your service as a teacher! We need good teachers, and you dont get paid or recognized enough.

@callouu3601 Ай бұрын

As a Steam Deck OLED user, valve still need to fix the dock and wifi 6e. 6GHz wifi and WPA3 still break Linux on the Steam Deck OLED and it’s been over 6months since release. Support has acknowledged they know there’s an issue, but they still haven’t fixed. Also, as someone who has a Steam Deck and doesn’t have a windows handheld, this is NOT a console like experience. Games still require the same amount of tinkering as my windows desktop to get good performance (ie allow tearing, image settings, fps profiles, controller profiles, etc). There are still a lot of bugs, I’ve had to re-image once already due to a black screen, and again, wifi 6e is still broken. Still loving my deck OLED and loved the original, but it kills me when people say it’s more “console like”. It’s about as console like as every other launcher like armory crate Edit: Also just need to put out there, like many others, I got 2 OLED models with dead pixels prior to getting a defect-free panel. I preordered in Nov 2023 and it took until mid January 2024 with all the warranty stuff. Yes, valve took care of it, but they also tried to convince me to keep a panel with dead pixels saying it “didn’t impact the user experience”. Just food for thought. Still miles better than whatever the hell asus is doing though

@jonathont5570 Ай бұрын

No offense but dead pixels to a certain number is really non issue per every monitor sold in the past 25 years. Its also more console like than windows, 1000x better experience.

@callouu3601 Ай бұрын

@@jonathont5570 I mean, it was bright red in the middle of the screen so hard to avoid. Also, when you need to side load anything not on steam (which most users will need to watch a KZfaq tutorial to download anything not on steam), anti cheat doesn’t work on half of the games, and you need to optimize settings for every program, it feels the same as a windows desktop. The only thing considerably more “console” like are the settings, overlays (which most windows handhelds seem to have), and the store.

@Moskeeto Ай бұрын

This is the snarkiest NerdNest video ever. 😂

@Sagenarf6227 Ай бұрын

Honestly I’m here for it 🤣

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

Wasn’t the plan. I just started writing.

@ElementalTJ Ай бұрын

So anyways, I started blastin

@FlukasMcDoogle Ай бұрын

@@NerdNestI mean, but, you're not wrong though. They don't get it. They probably overcharge for the change as well.

@Gummibri Ай бұрын

The steamdeck is the coolest thing I've ever owned. I was out of town for a little over a week, had boys game night with my Xbox controller, on the TV just like I would at home on my Xbox. I browsed the web and downloaded things with a keyboard and mouse just like I would at my desk and I watched plex from anywhere in the house like I would on my phone but the second I try to play a game unplugged... Its dead. I can play 2-3 matches of Rogue Company and it's dead. That's 45 mins. It's an old game! One of my friends that plays with us is on a 1st Gen ps4.

@imneveruploadinghere7180 Ай бұрын

What the hell is AI gonna do for a gaming device anyway? The fans already ramp up and down depending on heat, so I don't see what the AI will do for performance. Is it gonna assist with aiming?

@volodymyrkovalskyi2061 Ай бұрын

ROG Ally X is the new king.I own the SD OLED it is great but it really lacks raw power now. If Valve doesn’t announce the new SD at the end of the year, I would have to switch sadly

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

I'm very excited for the Ally X, them brute forcing while Valve goes for finesse might work.

@smidlee7747 Ай бұрын

All PC handheld are behind in performance when it comes to current triple A titles. The best way to get performance out of these handhelds with demanding games is by remote play. Even the Logitech G Cloud can do that.

@Belfoxy Ай бұрын

Valve made all the right hardware choices. 1. Really good ergonomics (not chasing Switch's cramped design). 2. Balanced specs (CPU isn't overkill vs GPU, and there isn't more RAM than you would reasonably use). 3. Trackpads for much better mouse control options. 4. 4 grip button And the OLED version massively upgraded the display to be one of the better handheld ones, which was a weakness of the OG Deck.

@sophieedel6324 Ай бұрын

Don't agree on the ergonomics. The 8-directional D-pad on the Rog Ally is superior to that of the Steam Deck, especially if you play any oldschool game, platformer or fighting game.

@Belfoxy Ай бұрын

@@sophieedel6324 I meant in terms of positioning everything in the right place. It was the right choice to put joysticks side by side with buttons, rather than arranging everything vertically like the Switch.

@samuelschwager Ай бұрын

it's crazy that msi jumps straight to 8 for that one, what a confusing naming scheme. I wonder how well the zotac zone will do, since it will launch with less ram and battery than the ally x...

@grandmoffporkins Ай бұрын

Love my Deck but curious about a Legion Go revision and the Zotac Zone

@DieHardEddieEdwards Ай бұрын

I have the Ally and Steam Deck and I find all of the chest beating about the Steam Deck weird. There are some quirks with Windows, but some real hardware limitations with the Steam Deck too. It’s way more of a mixed bag than some channels make it seem.

@smidlee7747 Ай бұрын

I feel the same about all these handhelds as they are all have hardware limitations when it comes to laptops and desktops. I like the handheld on the go but why would I play a game like Ghost of Tsushima on a small screen with small speakers when I can play it on a 65" TV hooked up to a sound system? I see sometimes a video "this game run amazing on the Ally" and the frame rate is bouncing up and down like a yo-yo.

@DieHardEddieEdwards Ай бұрын

@@smidlee7747 Yeah, it’s a handheld. If you don’t want a handheld, why are you even discussing handhelds?

@smidlee7747 Ай бұрын

@@DieHardEddieEdwards I owned handhelds, laptops and desktops. I'm thinking about getting the Ally X but I still don't get all the chest beating about playing high detailed and demanding games on a small screen with small speakers. Older games with less details to me seems more ideal for these handhelds.

@DieHardEddieEdwards Ай бұрын

@@smidlee7747 It’s not chest beating to just own a handheld. If you don’t like handhelds and don’t see the point of them, sell them.

@DieHardEddieEdwards Ай бұрын

@@smidlee7747 Then don’t buy a handheld.

@izcondoralexander Ай бұрын

If Steam somehow collaborated with Asus to create a compatible SteamOS on the ROG Ally X, that would be great. But then, one can only hope.

@josephmclord Ай бұрын

Yeah steamOS was the only reason I went with steam deck, I sometimes prefer it over my gaming pc because “windows”.

@Tucanazo69 Ай бұрын

You can intall Chimera OS on the ROG alley

@applehazeva2739 Ай бұрын

@@Tucanazo69not ideal

@The8bitbeard Ай бұрын

The goal is to have a SteamOS package that can freely be used by everyone, from personal users to OEMs. It's not there yet, but it's reasonable to see a near future where lots of these manufacturers build handhelds specifically around SteamOS.

@Kaylas1821 Ай бұрын

Ew please no. Steamos is only good until you need to leave handheld more and install other game launcher or side game. Then you are in for a ride.

@QuasiBRLN Ай бұрын

Great video! I think a lot of people have gotten one sided with their takes on these devices. For me, it’s always been: great performance + phenomenal software/hardware support from not only the company but the community as well vs Greater performance + mediocre software/hardware support. I think it’s so much more to it than just saying “XYZ has a bigger screen, faster chip, etc.” but how’s the software support and everything else outside of that?

@TheDawnofVanlife 22 күн бұрын

i honestly love my Legion GO and where I play my handheld (mostly at work on long breaks) grabbing a charger isn’t a problem. Something that can fit in a small bag and be daily life portable and play all my PC games is a priority and the Legion Go has filled my niche. I think that for the average user, the thing is most deck competitors aren’t doing much that makes them a hyper better choice then the deck. There is a reason to get the Nintendo Switch, Nintendo games. The console wars were won on titles more than anything. I see my Legion GO more as a more portable alternate to getting a gaming laptop more than an alternative to the Deck.

@TRX25EX Ай бұрын

As someone who owned nearly every single handheld starting from GPD 4000 Ryzen chips to One X Player X1 + Ally + Deck OLED + L GO..... I gotta say the ultimate one is Ally X even though I don't have it yet, but Ally was near perfection to me and only battery life + extra USB C I needed it from it and that's what it got.... For all guys complaining about windows use Emudeck in windows and you will get near Deck like experience in addition to all games supported... And to top all of this the Frame generation technology like Lossless app or AMD makes huge difference, yes they have issues but 3 times fps far more beneficial

@Andy-xn1lz Ай бұрын

Your “ultimate” just reflects the latest upgrade device. Ally X makes improvement in all the key areas but should be compared to gen 2 LeGo and other devices for true benchmark. If I was buying a new device now and did not need the larger screen of the LeGo of Kun, then AllyX is the obvious choice unless you want to take advantage of the discounted Gen 1 Ally

@TRX25EX Ай бұрын

@@Andy-xn1lz But Ally X is not having next gen parts or something it's just that Ally had one huge weakness and that the space inside it was poorly utilised, now though I don't see any other company capable of making a Handheld at this battery size and weight. They will be in a league of their own for awhile, 60Kwh is what's expected but we got 80 which is highest ever known to a handheld They managed that because Asus know to build custom sized parts than source it from suppliers, Zotac for example is releasing after Ally X yet have much worse battery as leaked And what sets Ally apart of others is that it have the best software I used so far, updates as easy as Deck, no crashing or anything unexpected, customised properly giving enough controls to the user

@PuddingTaToRnAtOr Ай бұрын

I see plenty of people loving their ally and saying it is better than the steam deck. Considering there’s already a new one that solved the only issues people had with the prior one I’d say ASUS is doing a great job. Only issue they have is with warranty, but that’s a company issue, not an issue localized to a single device

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

Exactly

@nathanjuan6042 Ай бұрын

I have my ally for 6 months and I never had a problem or issue with it same with my brother in law. I do love it because I can play any game I throw at it and it just works on any other platform and in 1080p.

@Steelninja77 Ай бұрын

exactly and that is just in the USA. Europe has laws in place where asus cannot pull the crap they pull with you guys. that is a US issue lol

@Steelninja77 Ай бұрын

@@nathanjuan6042 Yeah they are talking about the crappy customer service from ASUS you ghet in the US co's they don't have consumer rights laws like we do in Europe. The warranty and RMA is fine here.

@JamieR Ай бұрын

@@Steelninja77Same, here in Norway I don't think twice about that stuff. If something stops working within warranty and it's not user error it's a definite repair or replacement. Often replacement.

@matthewpender7434 Ай бұрын

And that’s what really grinds my gears…

@bluebroham Ай бұрын

Bill being fast and loose with the swearing lately is pretty funny. Guess hardware companies have been testing his patience

@66kaisersoza Ай бұрын

I first bought a steam deck and loved it. But i later bought the rog ally z1 extreme. I have to say i now exclusively play the ally, since all games are compatible with it. The UI is pretty solid considering its using Windows 11.

@Shark-fj2sz Ай бұрын

Obviously ally rog is better, you are not limited by steamos.

@TuPapi2014 Ай бұрын

The problem with the steam deck is that it isn't strong enough to run helldivers 2 and many other new games! We NEED a new far more powerful steam deck!

@DovahZeux Ай бұрын

...with shit battery life, lol.

@GraveUypo 19 күн бұрын

what? sd runs helldivers 2 with a locked 50fps, which feels pretty good if you limit the screen to 50hz. if you leave the frame rate unlocked it wanders into the 60's most of the time

@brandonfuller3123 Ай бұрын

In terms of battery life as long as I get enough for a 3-4 hour session I'm good I can't wait till deck 2. I'm thinking a zen 5 8 core processor (4 big core and 4 little effecient cores). RDNA 4 with 12 or 16 CU.

@McSmurfy Ай бұрын

I use windows on my gameing laptop, but mainly play on PS5 or Switch. Now with the Deck Oled I get the console experience, play my ps5 games and steam games, but also the OS is pretty neat and I am liking it so much.

@GoHardOrGoHome85 Ай бұрын

I will take my Lenovo Legion Go any day over the steamdeck but thats just me

@APEXGuerilla Ай бұрын

Yep, no interest in these. Legion Go 2 will probably be a different story.

@Necessarius Ай бұрын

Steam deck 2 will probably be a different story,

@juantamad1544 Ай бұрын

Legion go with steam deck controls + oled.

@Eevolved35 Ай бұрын

Would be so cool if the steam deck had the z1 extreme chip with its 800p display still. 800p on the legion go looks like a dirty puddle but the performance at that resolution is phenomenal

@zomg346 Ай бұрын

True but seems like msi is fixing tje claw slowly.the new overdrive mode scores you 4200 in timespy while ally is still 3200

@dirkwood4544 Ай бұрын

The hate is real.. Would you all please add one "bigger number better" guy on the Nerd Nest. I loved the Steam Deck for what it was.. but I can't do shitty, sub-30 fps, low graphics forever..

@NerdNest Ай бұрын

No hate, I want them to succeed. Right now....they aren't.

@caldweab Ай бұрын

How can the Claw be “essentially” an Ally clone when it has a completely different chipset? In fact the only thing it has in common with the Ally is the chassis and Windows. On top of that, the Steam deck is increasingly struggling to run newer games. The ROG X should get around 3.5 hours of battery life. Which means better performance and similar battery life as a Steam Deck.

@wilsonzea5616 Ай бұрын

not really because windows sucks at battery management. so do not expect long battery.

@nempk1817 Ай бұрын

Price ⬆⬆⬆

@Steelninja77 Ай бұрын

I know this blokes in denial. I hardly play my deck co's it just feels awful cpompared to playing ion my ROG ally. definitely getting the X

@wilsonzea5616 Ай бұрын

@@Steelninja77 nah man I got to disagree. Ally sucks without being plugged in

@nempk1817 Ай бұрын

@@Steelninja77 Steam deck oled $549 Ally X $899 seems fair comparison.

@rodurrutia3222 Ай бұрын

It's all about the Oled screen on the Steam Deck..it is amazing

@stephenmccusker352 Ай бұрын

Just so nothing is lost in translation, we want Steam competitors to be successful, competition drives every aspect in an improved handheld gaming experience to the user. I'm all for gamers being the winners in the end. Nice Vid, always appreciate your content!