The Houses of the Edain (Men) | Tolkien Explained

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The Houses of the Edain (Men) | Tolkien Explained

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Today, we trace the origins and migrations of the Men of Middle-earth, including how the three Houses of the Edain were founded - the ancestors of the Númenóreans. Starting from the time men awake in the far East, to them become the Houses of Bëor, Haleth, and Hador.
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@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын

Check out my previous video covering all the clans of the Elves (there's a LOT!): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pNt7Zq-mt8jdook.html

@mollkab90 Жыл бұрын

Great Video, as always! Thank you for all your hard work and all the effort. Are you planing on doing a video that covers the „powerlevel“ between the dwarves, elf and men? Their unique abilitys and how their strength/positives are decaying over the time?

@jackpacker6960 Жыл бұрын

Do you ever accept art submissions for your videos? I love immersing myself in your videos and the artwork really helps visualise what you are describing. As an artist myself I would love to illustrate something that would contribute to a future video of yours!

@mhd7402 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video of fingon son of fingolin and ecthelion of the fountain ?

@KelvinBastow Жыл бұрын

Would it be possible to have a download link to the Maps you use, I can't find any anywhere of the first through to the third age.

@kh2ouija19 Жыл бұрын

We tend to forget that Elrond and Elros not only were descended from all 3 houses of the Edain, but also of the 3 houses of the Eldar.

@haydenpoop2280 Жыл бұрын

Wait, where do they get their Vanyar from

@haydenpoop2280 Жыл бұрын

@@Alexs.2599 Thanks for clearing it up!

@Animalsarefoods Жыл бұрын

@Hayden Poop they are also descendants of the first king of the noldor Finwe and his second wife who was a valar. He re-married when his first wife died after giving birth to Feanor.

@ZakhadWOW Жыл бұрын

@@haydenpoop2280 and later, ELrond married Galadriel's daughter Celebrian; Galadriel being of the "Golden House of Finarfin, whose mother was Vanyar herself. So Arwen undomiel has a stunning lineage. When she married Aragorn II Elessar, it brought Elrond's nephews many times over back into Union - their son Eldarion having a lineage unsurpassed in al the history of Arda up until that time.

@ZakhadWOW Жыл бұрын

@@Animalsarefoods not valar, vanyar... just a SLIGHT difference there! LOL!

@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын

Hurin's words to Morgoth are one of the most underrated badass moments in Tolkien's works!

@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын

The whole scene is incredible!

@yojlik Жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings an excellent reading! the underlying music made it all chill inducing!

@zachiboi5253 Жыл бұрын

Morgoth: Tell me where Gondolin is or i'll curse your entire family Hurin: Try me b*tch

@keithtorgersen9664 Жыл бұрын

I realize that Tolkien meant to play this story out like a cycle of tragic irony, but my question is why wouldn't it be considered a matter a heroic valor to defy Morgoth instead of playing it out as a kind of hubris?

@bofhzerozero777 Жыл бұрын

@@keithtorgersen9664 I agree. It always bugs me when human protagonists confront evil-doing, or clearly murderous gods or godlike figures and it’s interpreted or ends up playing as hubris, pride, what have you. It’s calling out a murderer, who cares that they are gods?

@haydenpoop2280 Жыл бұрын

I loved how nuanced tolkiens languages are. Just now I realized that the elvish word dunedain, is simply the word dun, which means west, and Edain. Thus meaning western edain, the numenoreans.

@Rosula_D Жыл бұрын

The fact that Men managed to travel the entire continent in less than 3 centuries and developed a variety of cultures and languages showcases how change is not a curse but a miracle too. I always get in my feelings about Finrod and his human buddies 😢

@MerkhVision Жыл бұрын

It’s pretty unrealistic really that their languages and genetics would change that fast lol

@avipinckney Жыл бұрын

@@MerkhVision the us is 3 centuries removed from England. And we are wayy different

@wildfire9280 Жыл бұрын

@@avipinckney In languages and genetics?

@chepechapin5809 Жыл бұрын

And without the protección and guidance of the Valar.

@twojacksandanace3847 Жыл бұрын

Some researchers think it only took a few generations for humans in real life to traverse the whole world, from Africa to Australia and the Americas. It was our nature, we spent our lives walking and on the move, exploring and hunting, no farming yet, so we just kept walking where ever there was land. It's so amazing to me but when you really think about it it makes sense, humans just kept walking for generations so with all that time and movement we reached pretty much everywhere in (for us) a relativelty short period.

@mlw209 Жыл бұрын

I've been so Depressed from grieving for so long over a loved one. These videos are truly the only thing that consistently cheer me up. Thank you.

@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын

Much love to you, my friend. ❤️

@keithtorgersen9664 Жыл бұрын

mlw209, I'm sorry.

@TexasExotic Жыл бұрын

Pray and be strong. Your loved one would want that. My condolences extend to you and I wish you well.

@anonymousforagoodreason2479 Жыл бұрын

Onward, my friend. Its the only way. I lost someone recently also. Much love to you, and my condolences 🙏

@Slice9878 6 ай бұрын

I've read this thread, and all I can say is I hope after a year has passed, you and your loved ones are okay. These vids are elixir to low emotions.

@jaysgamingcorner8539 Жыл бұрын

Tolkien's creativity, thoroughness and dedication to detail are always astonishing. The history of men could be a series of books/shows/movies all on their own. Same for the elves and dwarves. Keep up the awesome work.

@zidanelionheart Жыл бұрын

I finished the Silmarillion for the second time recently. Strongly considered just restarting it immediately. It’s become my favorite story, even more so than Lord of The Rings. LOTR is a realistic take on a fantasy adventure, still mostly concerned with men. Silmarillion tells of incredible events before history even began, right up until the end of the greatest Elven civilizations in Middle-Earth. The creation of the Silmarils, the tale of Beren and Luthien, The Battle of Unnumbered tears….it makes Sauron and the War of the Ring look like what it is: an echo, a shadow of greater battles and threats that have always existed and plagued the Peoples of middle Earth.

@Jayjay-qe6um Жыл бұрын

The Sindarin word Edain, singular Adan (Quenya Atani, Atan), meant 'second people', and originally referred to all mankind - later it applied specifically to the Men of Beleriand and their descendants. However, the Quenya name Atani remained as a term for all mankind.

@JackHankeAnd 2 ай бұрын

Your reading of the exchange between Hurin and Melkor is absolutely exquisite. I had tears in my eyes by the end.

@frankmarshall-davis8400 2 ай бұрын

That dialog is from "The Children of Hurin". Sir Christopher Lee (the actor who played Saruman) narrated that audiobook. Although the reading in this video was good, nobody can beat Sir Christopher Lee reading it.

@eduardoalamo1240 Жыл бұрын

Indeed, and just to clarify a bit, Hador was the the grandfather of Hurin and Huor, and the mother of the brothers was Hareth of the House of Haleth. And to connect everyone even further, the mothers of Turin and Tuor, Morwen and Rian, were cousins and members of the House of Beor, specifically their fathers were the first cousins of Beren.

@docfada1701 Жыл бұрын

🔥🔥👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💯

@jorenaltura524 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a separate video about the House of Haleth or Haleth herself. Totally underrated among the three houses of the Edain.

@samueljo7910 Жыл бұрын

Gotta love how Hurin insulted a Satan analogue in the most badass way possible

@j-dmachado4349 Жыл бұрын

These videos are so useful for those of us who’ve read Tolkien’s work over a long period of time, and struggle to find the time (or audio books) to re-read them! Thank you!! 😊

@sewkzoo Жыл бұрын

You nailed it on this one! The music along with Hurin's defiance of Morgoth... excellent.

@stefandebeer9375 Жыл бұрын

The Sundering of the Elves is more well-known to us Tolkien scholars, but its great to see how men awoke and travelled throughout time. Its a lesser known piece of the lore that few knew until now. And its shown in an easy and visual way. I always wondered how men awoke and travelled to Beleriand and how the groups of men splitted from one another like the Elves did when they awoke and travelled to Valinor.

@patrikduller8449 Жыл бұрын

I do not always comment, neither can I support you other than by subscribing and watching your videos. However, I really want you to know how much joy your channel brings me. So keep up the great work and don't leave Middle Earth yet, okay?! There will be another ship that can bear you to the Undying Lands!😉

@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your kind words, and for enjoying the videos. It truly means a great deal to me. 🙏

@hannibalb8276 Жыл бұрын

I can't monetarily support him either, but the next best thing we can do besides liking and subscribing is commenting on the videos, it drives the youtube algorithm to some way to help others find these videos.

@barbarossarotbart Жыл бұрын

A video about the easterlings of the first age would be great.

@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын

I cover them a bit in this video on all the Easterlings: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbuoopCjvsebiIk.html

@barbarossarotbart Жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings Thanks!

@SnakeAndTurtleQigong Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all of your hard work! I’ve loved seeing your channel explode. 🎉❤

@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! It's been so fun to see this community & channel grow the way it has in the past 2.5 years. Thinking back at how I almost gave up on it less than a month before it started taking off blows my mind. lol.

@hannibalb8276 Жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings You deserve your success. I like that you never capitulated to the (recent) ROP haters to grow your base either. I wish I had your strength to stick with things (or even start them) that are prone to failure.

@loganspena1782 Жыл бұрын

You didn't have to go that hard in reading Morgoth's lines, but you did, and it made this video superb.

@Rauruatreides Жыл бұрын

Fun/Not so fun fact: There is an unpublished silmarillion chapter called the Wanderings of Hurin, which tells of how the House of Haleth was mostly wiped out. Basically, Hurin came to Brethil after being released from Angband, where after some initial talks, the people treat him well. I don't remember specifics, but essentially Hurin gets two of the leaders of the House of Haleth to fight each other through recklessness, and they basically cause ruin to themselves.

@Blong243 Жыл бұрын

Great job, not long ago I was curious about the houses of the edain and did some research but this really helps with the visuals, so easy to follow. Keep up the fantastic work!!!

@peterparser995 Жыл бұрын

I realized while watching this, this would make for such a great tv series, each season focusing on each houses.

@AndrewCarlisle11B Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the work you put into these videos. Love these lore videos!

@coreybentsen7794 Жыл бұрын

I'm a closet Tolkien fanboy...your videos are seriously the best and I cant get enough of this stuff

@Luinedhel Жыл бұрын

The fact that men awoke at the very first rising of the sun might be the inspiration of the solar references on numenorean armors, banners and ships on Amazon's "The Rings of Power". If you're into this stuff, these and other related things are on my reviews of RoP. Feel free to browse through them on my channel

@owenbergeron4212 Жыл бұрын

You are killing these videos man. I always look forward to them. Thanks so much for creating them and doing the rings of power breakdown videos, I'm sure it takes a lot of time

@shehansenanayaka3046 Жыл бұрын

We know it takes a lot of time and dedication towards these videos. Love from Sri Lanka. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos.

@stipe3124 Жыл бұрын

Drug means "friend" in some slavic languages, Rhun sea almost reminds of position of Caspian sea

@hannibalb8276 Жыл бұрын

I do love me some drugs..

@null_corporation Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the video once again. Keep up the great work ✨

@kirandeepchakraborty7921 Жыл бұрын

1st Age stories always get me. Loved it.

@marquissmith7101 Жыл бұрын

Much needed video b/c I just read the Children of Hurin, and those family trees had me all discombobulated.

@solaawodiya7360 Жыл бұрын

As usual Matt, you never dissapoint with your Tolkein stories. I love your content and I do hope you become a showrunner of one of these stories from the first age 👌❤

@DavidMacDowellBlue Жыл бұрын

I wish you had dealt more with Morgoth's first interactions with Men, as described in MORGOTH's RING. But of course that is a bit outside this specific subject.

@istari0 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! I enjoy these Lore videos that bring back to mind things I have forgotten or didn't previously know.

@untruelie2640 Жыл бұрын

The answer that Haleth gives to the elves when they ask her people to guard the forest of Brethil against the Orcs, really stuck to me. She basically says: "Where are my father and brother? If you think that I would become friends with the creatures who ATE my kin, you know nothing about our people." Truly a woman of steel. Screw RoP's Galadriel, I want to see a series or movie about her. And she doesn't even need to become an allmifghty fighting machine, her character alone is impressive. I think the fact that Orcs regularly eat human (and other) meat is not talked about enough. Contrary to the movies (where there are just a few quotes), in the books, this is mentioned constantly. Even in The Lord of the Rings. 😅 This gives awhole other dimension to the wickedness of Orcs, the fear of them, but also the misery to which Morgoth has condemned them.

@razi9l1 Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your videos being in 4K and you using high resolution artworks/upscales of classic artworks. If one day you will have talked about all there is in the legendarium we will have a beautiful collection of it to go back to!

@VishakhaSen Жыл бұрын

Ahhhhh I’m so happy! I requested this on IG and it’s finally here! ❤

@TarMody Жыл бұрын

I had never heard of people's journeys from Hildorien to Ered Luin anywhere before. I would like to especially thank you for this part.

@carlosbittencourt8677 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for everything man! I love your channel, keep up the great work

@thedragondemands5186 Жыл бұрын

I was hoping you’d explain the Edain after their recent mention in the TV show

@Aurora2097 Жыл бұрын

So many cool stories Tolkien played with over time... Even before the term Edain came up i remember in the Book of lost tales ther was the Tale how the Elf Nuin awakened the first two children, Ermon and Elmir... Or the Story about the First temple Andreth told Finrod... I think he never reused or revisited them, they are not in the Silmarillion, but i enjoyed reading these apocryphic stories on the origin of man.

@erikbender1967 Жыл бұрын

And if I'm not mistaken Aragorn came from these men. Most excellent sir! I wait all week for your videos, and they are worth it! Thank you for your indepth history on Middle Earth. Also enjoyed the short video this past week. Waiting for next week already. Have a good weekend!!!

@mudyao Жыл бұрын

@@Alexs.2599 and Elrond’s nephew

@MerkhVision Жыл бұрын

Technically most humans did, didn’t they? Lol pretty sure they’re everyone’s ancestors, not just Aragorn’s!

@OzarkNephesh Жыл бұрын

man, the work you do is fantastic. I absolutely love this channel, very well paced and great visuals to match whatever topic you are on. Thank you for what you do.

@adam3rdcanvey Жыл бұрын

I love your videos. make the work day go much quicker and have reinvigorated my love for middle earth 🌎 😍

@strider3743 Жыл бұрын

Hurrins words to Morgoth. Is the epitomyof great moments in hero speeches against the darkness!

@claysecora8734 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant voice acting! Well done!

@goshlike76 Жыл бұрын

Loved the theatrical play between Hurin and Morgoth. Splendid execution.

@lorcankelly8871 Жыл бұрын

Ooh been waiting sooo long for this thanks. Hoping for anything dol amroth related

@meganofsherwood3665 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Please! Somebody needs to cover Dol Amroth!

@jona826 Жыл бұрын

Someone needs to buy the rights to do a board game like "War of the Ring" set in Beleriand.

@twoinchrazorblade 4 ай бұрын

imagine being an elf and seeing a man getting old for the first time and wondering what strange sickness had taken hold of your beloved friend

@anonymousforagoodreason2479 Жыл бұрын

While Hurin is giving the business to Morgoth, I imagine a chris tucker from friday kind of hype man in the back, "that's my dawg! That's my dawg!"

@omarbraddy5052 Жыл бұрын

Finally this video come, Haleth always my favorite edain house

@talesoftheeldar8688 Жыл бұрын

Nerd of the Rings, Please do a video on the men of Estolad.

@roki49 Жыл бұрын

Great video Matt, loved it, i look forward to more 1st age videos, some video ideas... Video explaining some characters from fotr like farmer Maggot, Tom Bombandil and Goldberry, Old Man Willow, Barliman Butterbur... Maybe a series of covering lotr books... Like a video per chapter with a q&a at the end of the videos

@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын

Manwë: If it's not tall, unworldly beautiful and immortal, I don't care for it!

@Rosula_D Жыл бұрын

The Valar giving no fs about the Men and letting them fall under Morgoth's power the moment they wake, then getting pissed because the Men didn't follow their orders 🤷‍♀️

@ofgondor5312 Жыл бұрын

2:49 OfGondor*, 12:09 Excellent Christopher Lee impression from Children of Hurin Audiobook: "REFUSE YOU"; well done.

@skytrailer2563 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this video

@v.pazzyenza5362 Жыл бұрын

Love the vids men been watching you from the start. Keep up the good work. Love from the netherlands

@VikingerOnYT Жыл бұрын

Yet another amazing video!

@morrgash Жыл бұрын

Just finished the Silmarils and this was a much needed guide, what an amazing quality, well done and thank you 😊

@kirandeepchakraborty7921 Жыл бұрын

Elros's Lineage from all the 3 houses was so deep.

@SimpleDesertRose Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. I just started then Scilmarillion this weekend and was a little confused by some of those houses. This cleared up my confusion.

@jmaccsarmiesofArda Жыл бұрын

Awsome the speech gave me chills man.

@Cloofinder 3 ай бұрын

Hurin must be tired carrying ballz of stone. Most badass man in Tolkien's lore, to tell Morgoth off in such a manner.

@danbal4185 Жыл бұрын

I'm a Karen Wynn Fonstad apologist. In this case I will always interpret the "Sea of Rhun" as actually the "Sea of Helcar", since the former was only formed after the "War of Wrath".

@gavinlaverty9803 Жыл бұрын

Great videos, I'm learning a lot about the lore! Things I never would have known before. Though I gotta ask since they do get mentioned a fair bit, would you be interested in making a video about Wargs? Always did want to learn more about them.

@Navak_ Жыл бұрын

your interpretation of the dialogue of hurin and morgoth was badass

@venugopalk7855 Жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, Could you please make a video of how and to whom high kingship of Naldor passed from Finwe to Gil-Galad and Similarly about the kings of Numenor

@ericleffingwell8617 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the content. I was hoping to get more about the Westernese, Dunlendings, those of Dol Amroth, and Beornings. Do you think you may do a video about the history of the races of men found in Middle Earth during the Second and Third ages?

@Kaitain Жыл бұрын

That Morgoth voice.. well played!

@jamiegregg9211 Жыл бұрын

awesome vid Matt loved it looking forward to the next as always 😀😀😀😀😀😀

@ahmeddrammeh1503 Жыл бұрын

One thing i would actually suggest you to do is look into the people of Bor & Ulfang. Bor in particular whose people were as Tolkien described, of African descent, also came into beleriand in the first age and proved faithful to the elves. They were also almost wiped out during the battle of un-numbered tears. But i am pretty sure Bor had descendants (wife, kids, cousins, nephews...etc) who didn't go to the war, and who refused to go back east. No doubt these folk were also granted passage to Numenor due to the the faithfulness of their leader Bor. Although Tolkien didn't specifically mention this, however the breadcrumbs are there to be put together. So Numenor may have been made up of the three main houses, but also most likely a lesser number of folk from the house of Bor the faithful aswell. Something to reflect on.

@hazbojangles2681 Жыл бұрын

Quality of this video was outstanding!

@hazbojangles2681 Жыл бұрын

House of Haleth is underrated

@fightingblindly Жыл бұрын

Would really be great to get a description of the appearance of the House of Haleth and House of Marach/Hador.

@sophiegallinger8004 Жыл бұрын

The House of Hador gets a nice description in the Silmarillion: "His people were of great strength and stature, ready in mind, bold and steadfast, quick to anger and to laughter, mighty among the Children of Iluvatar in the youth of Mankind. Yellow-haired they were for the most part, and blue-eyed." And since they're the most populous of the houses, we can safely assume that most of the Numenoreans (and later Gondorians) were golden-haired, blue-eyed, good-humored giants. The people of Haleth, not so much. We get a throwaway line that they're kind of like the House of Beor in looks and mood (dark hair, gray eyes, serious) but smaller in stature and less eager for lore. They were also loners and not big fans of talking too much, while the people of Beor were a lot like mortal Noldor.

@garfieldatfreddys5381 Жыл бұрын

Love the phrasing of the last sentence. Well, maybe I'm just immature.

@redcreyes Жыл бұрын

Superb story-telling as always. Thank you.

@BirdsRus Жыл бұрын

Great vid keep up the good work friend

@pranavabharadwaj2489 Жыл бұрын

I had a doubt maybe someone in the comments could resolve. We know that Morgoth could never create Life, since that is the power of Eru Illuvatar. As such, he corrupted Elves into orcs, Ents into trolls and Maiar into Balrogs. But where did he get the inspiration for dragons or FireDrakes? And they aren't dumb creatures at all. We know that Glaurunh managed to conquer a city, the city of Nargothrond, and even scheme against Turin Turembar. Are we to believe that Fire Drakes are inspired by the Nameless Things? This is something that has bothered me for a bit. Any ideas?

@randomelite4562 Жыл бұрын

Easy. Lizards and birds

@jakobbauz Жыл бұрын

This video is just *chef's kiss*.

@midgeman90 Жыл бұрын

Such a good video! Easy to follow and super interesting. Great work.

@talenzero8932 Жыл бұрын

The track that people are looking for is called Unborn Millions to Come - Kyle Preston

@mckster56 Жыл бұрын

Love love your work

@ziad-san146 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered the meaning of awakening of the elfs and humans , was it a male and female thing like Adam and Eve or a bunch of people just rised from the ground

@shannonmcstormy5021 Жыл бұрын

Refusing to submit to evil, that is the best of humans, to lead with love, compassion, acceptance of difference, courage, integrity, patience, kindness and generosity. May we all live by these values as best we can. We are humans, and flawed, we make mistakes. However, in our love, we can be glorious.

@hamzajahangir3870 Жыл бұрын

Amazing video!

@freddaniel5099 Жыл бұрын

A masterpiece- one of your best lore vids! Cheers!

@therongjr Жыл бұрын

Hurin was a freakin' BADASS!

@g.l.a.djayawardena1904 Жыл бұрын

Wanted this vedio so badly

@NathanLoewen Жыл бұрын

This was so helpful, thank you! The origins of the houses of the Edain seemed so murky and unintelligible to me before this.

@jessewilliams9195 Жыл бұрын

Very cool, thanks for posting

@georgeloma4425 Жыл бұрын

I'm currently reading the children of hurin. that scene was amazing

@Sam-ig2jm Жыл бұрын

Each time the story of Hurin and how morgoth trapped him like for long time in torture and dreadful things.. I wish that the Valar had taken a step to rescue him espicially for his faithful, strong, and heroic standing infront of Morgoth.. Unless the Valar cannot see what is going on in Morgoth's Fortresses due to one of his spells or powers, or can they ?

@dr.demontale3250 Жыл бұрын

We were literally 2 SECONDS away from greatness, be were THIS CLOSE!

@offroader9965 Жыл бұрын

As I’ve said before.. great way to kick off the weekend!!

@ildiora Жыл бұрын

Great job as usual

@ardaal Жыл бұрын

this is the issue with lord of the rings lore after Tolkien, his son collected the lore like an encyclopedia, like a recipe full of names, names more names. name of people, name of lands, name of empires....etc. the story uniting the picture together is less plentiful and is merely a list of actions on a timeline. Making lore very difficult to take in. In fantasy fiction, there is a very well established balance of story & introduction of new concepts (characters, races, worlds and kingdoms) to eyes of the reader allowing the reader to fall into the story while digesting all the new things they are introduced naturally. Middle earth lore literally hits you in the face with new things over and over before you got into the flow of the story.

@nerdwatch1017 Жыл бұрын

I hope at some point we will actually get to see the more cosmic versions of the Valar and Myar in the new series and any new movies

@leonardofaber5823 Жыл бұрын

Maybe only after 2090

@hannibalb8276 Жыл бұрын

They've done pretty well showing off the more mythic parts of the lore via flashbacks in ROP so I wouldn't be surprised if they showed off some more stuff in the same way in future seasons.