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Covering the life of Eöl the dark elf - his forging of the great black blades of the First Age, his marriage to Aredhel, his son Maeglin, and his self-wrought doom in Gondolin!
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@matthewcarlton5693
@matthewcarlton5693 Жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, this channel is the best thing on the internet. I have been Tolkien freak for at least 40 years. One of the first books I ever bought was an original edition Silmarillion at my church's rummage sale for 75 cents. The narration and artwork you use is fantastic. Like when I am reading Tolkien and I have entered his realm, that is how I feel in these videos.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind words, Matthew. So glad you are enjoying the channel!!
@matthewcarlton5693
@matthewcarlton5693 Жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings have you ever done a video on Mithrellas and Imrazor? I have always found that interesting, it being an elf woman and human man for once and that they helped with the founding of Dol Amroth-which I always imagined as a cosmopolitan city by the ocean.
@angelus3605
@angelus3605 4 ай бұрын
​@@NerdoftheRingsIs there a video about the life and travels of Maeglin?? I can't seem to find it on your channel.
@javelinphotography
@javelinphotography 6 күн бұрын
I just want to brag for a second, I actually have a first draft first run of the Silmarillion in mint condition. Still has printing ink on the edges and the full map in the back
@bluediamonddirector
@bluediamonddirector Жыл бұрын
Wow, last time I was this early, Eru hadn't even begun the First Song.....
@arjunsengupta9797
@arjunsengupta9797 Жыл бұрын
Nice! 🤣
@system_error8721
@system_error8721 Жыл бұрын
You have my like 👍
@matwatson7947
@matwatson7947 Жыл бұрын
@@arjunsengupta9797 I'm glad you got here BEFORE he started singing. That noise woke me up. He sounds like one of Beruthiels Cats
@stevenkempton7469
@stevenkempton7469 Жыл бұрын
Your wife has our sympathy.
@thewaterwarrior9817
@thewaterwarrior9817 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Raphael141618
@Raphael141618 Жыл бұрын
Eol and Aredhel's story was one of the first, after Feanor and his sons, in the Silmarillion that really got me with a swapping stroke of tragedy and the sheer storytelling brilliance present in the novel. In just a brief chapter you're put to know and understand each character and feel their ultimate downfall in such an impactfully cathartic way. Which results later in Tuor's story, where Maeglin even as the villain, you don't fully hate him even in his malice because you were made to know the tragedy of his story.
@hesperio9
@hesperio9 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree.
@FeanaroNihilMaliFecit.
@FeanaroNihilMaliFecit. Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree the Story (stories) are really well written, but I hate Maeglin even more than Morgoth himself, so I don't really agree with the last part
@vindolanda6974
@vindolanda6974 Жыл бұрын
I love the idea that Eöl doesn't recognise the authority of the Noldor and regards them as unwelcome incomers to the lands of the Teleri. It makes you wonder how many other tensions and dissenting views there were among all the elves.
@VishakhaSen
@VishakhaSen Жыл бұрын
This guy is the only character in Silmarillion that made me shudder. Eol makes my skin crawl with the way he basically kidnapped and kept Aredhel.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын
Dude definitely has a creepy vibe about him. I always wondered how he made sentient swords!
@flashflood4
@flashflood4 Жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings Eol and Aredhel seem to fit the Hades and Persephone archetype, right? I think the sentient sword is possible because it was made from a heavenly material, the meteorite, seeing as how the ancient world considered the sun, moon, and stars to be sentient beings.
@ecthelionofthefountain8267
@ecthelionofthefountain8267 Жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings In an earlier version Eol took Aredhel to wife by force...It seems he was of terrible temperament but a brilliant craftsman.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
@@flashflood4 the difference is that while Hades did kidnappe Persephone, she wasn't his prisoner. They were also the most stable and loving relationships in the Greek mythology.
@Halfwit_The_Brave
@Halfwit_The_Brave Жыл бұрын
Luthien getting kidnapped was pretty creepy too.
@hoo7797
@hoo7797 Жыл бұрын
The way Eöl ensnares Aredhel to get lost in the woods and come to his house reminds me a bit of the Phantom of the Opera.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
Even Tolkien couldn't avoid adding an edgelord in his story!
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 Жыл бұрын
Morgoth is always more emo than you.
@brunopereira6789
@brunopereira6789 Жыл бұрын
"Men call me Dark Elf, and I am of the night." No wait what
@wackyswacky1374
@wackyswacky1374 Жыл бұрын
@@brunopereira6789 Hopefully one day George will finish Darkstar's story.
@alexeyagapov4205
@alexeyagapov4205 Жыл бұрын
@@specialnewb9821 literally more goth
@jayoungr
@jayoungr Жыл бұрын
Túrin is pretty edgy too.
@danmaertens7872
@danmaertens7872 Жыл бұрын
What an interesting character, and his sword being a black blade that was sentient kind of reminds me of Elric’s sword Stormbringer, maybe inspired by Eöl’s creation.
@iagobroxado
@iagobroxado Жыл бұрын
I doubt that. Stormbringer was inspired by Poul Anderson's The Broken Sword, released in 1954. Moorcock was a fan of his work.
@anotherhuman8173
@anotherhuman8173 Жыл бұрын
In the Prose Edda (a Norse mythology text and one of Tolkien's inspirations), the line between the "Dwarves" and the "Dark Elves" is pretty blurred, leading some people to think they're just different names for the same beings. It seems like Tolkien kind of incorporated this into his own Dark Elf, making him more Dwarf-like in his skills and lifestyle. Just an interesting tidbit I noticed.
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 Жыл бұрын
Well spoted!
@skarinblackraven9212
@skarinblackraven9212 Жыл бұрын
I've seen this come through a lot, the connections between ancient Norse culture and the movies.
@karlpoppins
@karlpoppins Жыл бұрын
But, if I'm not mistaken, all Elves who did not travel to Valinor and witness the light of the two trees were considered Dark Elves, no? All the Sindar, for instance.
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 Жыл бұрын
@@karlpoppins Yes, you are right, the only that might be considered a Sindar but was not a Dark Elf was Elu Thingol because he went to Valinor as an emissary of his people when he was called Elwe, but he is the only exception.
@laurenfazenbaker9777
@laurenfazenbaker9777 Жыл бұрын
No no no. The Poetic Edda by Sturlusson waa very distinct in the Vólúspa in that elves and dwarves were separate entities, with separate realms...Alfheim for the elves, Svartalfheim for the dwarves. The Prose Edda is credited to Sturlusson, but it isn't as consistent as the Poetic Edda, which was very specific, and so much so that the Poetic Edda was the main source Tolkien used, to the point of ripping off the names straight out of the Voluspa. Thorin Eikenskjaldi comes to mind, along with Gandalf and ALL the dwarves from Durin down the line to Dain with the company of dwarves in the Hobbit all being taken directly from the creation story in Voluspa. The Voluspa isn't found in the Prose Edda
@stefanfrunza4078
@stefanfrunza4078 Жыл бұрын
You should really do a family tree of the elves and man of middle earth so that we see how some charachters are related to one another
@fingersTitan
@fingersTitan Жыл бұрын
That would be a good wrap up video to tie eveyone together (or not) and you could show the ages they lived in and who was the last important figure in the family of one age and who was the next/start in the next age.
@krupam0
@krupam0 Жыл бұрын
It's quite nebulous at times. In some versions Celeborn is Galadriel's first cousin, and in others he's her second cousin. And don't even get anyone started about Orodreth.
@AnthonyBerkshire
@AnthonyBerkshire Жыл бұрын
I need a human lineage as well, because Tour, hour, Hurin and Beren are confusing me
@stefangonzo
@stefangonzo Жыл бұрын
We need this in song form, in the tune of Monty Python's philosopher's song... Also, nice name.
@jonasb104
@jonasb104 Жыл бұрын
I did exactly that in private on a miro board. A tree from Finwe down to Aragorn with every known person of three ages
@AlwaysPossible100
@AlwaysPossible100 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure if a modern psychologist was to consult with Eol, the conclusion would be that Eol has severe PTSD. He isolated himself and everything he does is an extreme response that works against him.
@chimera916
@chimera916 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe the elves were all dicks and he was tired of them. After all, he befriended the dwarves.
@voster77hh
@voster77hh Жыл бұрын
Born (raised) narcist sociopath loner aka edgelord. PTSD would be aquired later, self-destructive and on/off.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Ай бұрын
no, Eol has severe narcissism. PTSD does not make you attempt to murder your children or control your wife. that’s spousal abvse and pure narcissism.
@ElasticGiraffe
@ElasticGiraffe Жыл бұрын
The story Eöl is as good as a Shakespearean tragedy. It could get its own film, or at least a stageplay.
@TyranasauruzFlex6669
@TyranasauruzFlex6669 Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely baffling yet amazing that you continue to find such interesting subjects in the world of LOTR to make content. It truly speaks volumes on the depth of this world and your love for the franchise. Many thanks and much love, friend
@talesoftheeldar8688
@talesoftheeldar8688 Жыл бұрын
Aredhel is the most underrated character.
@NickAgatha
@NickAgatha Жыл бұрын
Maybe Adar is Maeglin, Eol's son... Who was thrown down a cliff, hit the rocks three times and fell into the flames... That fits Adar's scars nicely. And just imagine how much more of an impactful villain he would be, considering the apallment of the elves who discover that the traitor of Gondolin, responsible for all this destruction, lost lives and sorrow is still alive.
@Kynokefalos
@Kynokefalos Жыл бұрын
If there is a scar, there is a story behind. Also his left hand is covered.
@paulharvey5505
@paulharvey5505 Жыл бұрын
yeah Maeglin was what came to mind when I asked myself, why would an elf be working for Sauron.
@aurelepeyrefitte3164
@aurelepeyrefitte3164 Жыл бұрын
I hope it is not Maeglin. That would greatly diminish the impact of his death in the Silmarillion. Especially for Tuor, the one who killed him in single combat. Maeglin's story is perfect as written and it would be an affront to change it. No, I hope it's a character invented by the show
@yavuzkoroglu7792
@yavuzkoroglu7792 Жыл бұрын
I wish Maeglin was Adar but I cannot see how since he was thrown down to his death at the Fall of Gondolin (510 in the First Age), falling into the flames. He didn't survive into the Second Age.
@Porto7Inferno
@Porto7Inferno Жыл бұрын
Could also be Maglor. No info for his exact death, and the Silmaril burnt his hand before he cast into the sea.
@kryzieg
@kryzieg Жыл бұрын
fell into the youtube rabbit hole and ended up watching all your videos over the past week or so, now im all caught up :) i loved tolkiens work when I was younger but life got busy so im greatly appreciative for what you do and the time you put into it! keep it up mate :x
@mmiller73
@mmiller73 Жыл бұрын
Amazon doesn’t own the rights to portray Eol or Maeglin. Adar is an original character and they are just trying to give him an Eol vibe.
@hawkname1234
@hawkname1234 Жыл бұрын
You have NO IDEA what they are trying to do.
@butchgreene
@butchgreene Жыл бұрын
Martin, that's what we're all being told but it was pointed out that in the most recent episode, they specifically named something not in LOTR that was only covered Unfinished Tales & The Silmarillion. So either Amazon is pushing back to see if they can out lawyer the Tolkien family or they're finding loopholes or have been granted specific permissions? My guess is the family will allow Amazon to "name" things in the Silmarillion as long as they make NO change to the source material. So that way Amazon can make reference to things in those books/works, but can't change anything about their stories that was named. So...maybe Amazon can name Eol, but has to leave him dead and can fill in the unnamed Maeglin life events.
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
@@butchgreene there was a boromir and a Legolas in the first or second age as well. They simply can't make adar as maeglin or eol because both died in the first age long before the rings of power which is the middle or end of the second age.
@300DBenz
@300DBenz Жыл бұрын
Eöl seems really goth for an elf. Really,really goth. But no matter how goth Eöl is, Melkor will always be more goth.
@pettypossum724
@pettypossum724 Жыл бұрын
Eöl. What a poser.
@jeffhayes6843
@jeffhayes6843 Жыл бұрын
One of the coolest elves in the entire legendarium. I always see him chillin by a tree with Bauhaus playing in the background.
@codydixon2957
@codydixon2957 Жыл бұрын
A video on Ecthelion of the Fountain would be amazing...I would love to know more about the slayer of the Lord of Balrogs!!! Another fantastic video as always :)
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@rafaehsan4658
@rafaehsan4658 Жыл бұрын
By far. One of my fav Elf among all in 1st Age. He was such a distinct elf. Always spend his time with dwarves. He hatred towards sun and light where most of the Elf (especially the Teleri, Noldor, Vanyar) love the light of the Two tree and by far. One of the reason why Gondolin fall
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
Yeah his distinctness was a nice change though I still hate him.
@hesperio9
@hesperio9 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorites, too. A very special elf. I feel sorry for his wife as well, though.
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
@@hesperio9 yeah poor aredhel, got sidetracked, kidnapped then died saving her son by the man who entrapped her to begin with.
@michaelredhorse8752
@michaelredhorse8752 Жыл бұрын
I kinda assumed Eol put a piece of himself into the speaking swords. Perhaps Sauron even heard of this magic and took inspiration and put himself into his one ring.
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
Same as Feanor, his greatest of all his work were the silmarils but he couldn't make them again even if he tried too since a part of his own essence, fea or soul were put into it.
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
This is what morgoth did as well.
@LordOfTheLore123
@LordOfTheLore123 Жыл бұрын
The sword forger and the Founder of Nan Elmoth, I have to admit Nerd you've been killing it with the uploads! Did Adar maybe inspire this episode? ;)
@tonalambiguity3345
@tonalambiguity3345 Жыл бұрын
ROP is not cannon and it should never be referenced in serious Tolkien circles.
@Kynokefalos
@Kynokefalos Жыл бұрын
@@tonalambiguity3345 Just shut up.
@matheusfernandes2102
@matheusfernandes2102 Жыл бұрын
@@tonalambiguity3345 neither is the trilogy but people still talk about them, what's your point?
@connor_phillipz5689
@connor_phillipz5689 Жыл бұрын
@@tonalambiguity3345 Why?
@acommoncommenter9364
@acommoncommenter9364 Жыл бұрын
@@matheusfernandes2102 As someone who did quite a lot of forumming about 3rd age i can confirm trilogy isn't regarded as canon in Tolkien talks.
@christopherfelipe60
@christopherfelipe60 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite tales in the sillmarillion...it reminded me of a fairy tale ...so thank you Matt
@hesperio9
@hesperio9 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@thurathedarkerlord
@thurathedarkerlord Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for Maeglin’s story! You’re such a tease😄
@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada1095
@fatherlouiswilliamssugaada1095 Жыл бұрын
Anglachel reminds me of the one ring a lot ...not as powerful but as sinister as it was
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Avatar episode where Sokka forges a black sword from a meteorite was inspired by Eöl's story.
@HiHi-lt1cb
@HiHi-lt1cb Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! I love when fandoms connect lol
@krupam0
@krupam0 Жыл бұрын
Not really, the earliest iron tools forged by humans often come from meteorites, so it's a trope that's quite ubiquitous.
@TheSuperappelflap
@TheSuperappelflap Жыл бұрын
@@krupam0 for ppl interested in this, the reason for it was that meteors were the only source of relatively pure iron, as there were no methods in that time for refining iron ore, the forges people built back then out of mud and straw were not hot enough to melt iron, they could only heat the iron from the meteors to the point that it was hot enough to hammer and bend it. there are some good youtube videos about this, search for "meteor weapons" on the Invicta youtube channel for example.
@PLuMUK54
@PLuMUK54 Жыл бұрын
There is a dagger made from meteor iron amongst the treasures found in the tomb of Tutankhamen. It was one of the most valuable items buried with the boy-king.
@rigistroni
@rigistroni Жыл бұрын
@@krupam0 tbf, Tolkien created a lot of those tropes
@fulviopontarollo2952
@fulviopontarollo2952 Жыл бұрын
Hearing this Silmarillion piece of dialogue between Eol and Turgon makes the dialogues of RoP even more painful to watch
@bullymaguire9318
@bullymaguire9318 11 ай бұрын
You are perfect. The voice, the editing, the presentation where you use movie portraits too so that movie fans don't get confused. You are more valuable than the one ring for the fandom
@AndrewCarlisle11B
@AndrewCarlisle11B Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work Matt! This was a great one 👊
@matthew62592
@matthew62592 Жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos man keep them going they get me through my coming to work
@iraklikavelashvili1593
@iraklikavelashvili1593 Жыл бұрын
Amazing story and as high quality content, as one could expect from Nerd!
@brycearnold3541
@brycearnold3541 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Video, I was just talking about Gurthang to someone that never heard of it.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings Жыл бұрын
Gurthang is quite the awesome blade! I'm doing a collab with David DelaGardelle from CedarLore Forge later this year and we are going to make Gurthang. Should be a lot of fun!
@IcarusGravitas
@IcarusGravitas Жыл бұрын
An especially good one! I've never heard this tale before. Thanks!
@matthewcarlton5693
@matthewcarlton5693 Жыл бұрын
I have just discovered this channel and I wondered if he had a deep dive into Eol! One of my favorite characters.
@samuelstuart3856
@samuelstuart3856 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the cloud effect as we first zoomed in on Beleriand, it is really cool and adds a nice touch to the video.
@Fan_Made_Videos
@Fan_Made_Videos Жыл бұрын
So was Eöl the ONLY Elf to dwell in Nam Elmoth? I seem to remember he had some Doriath Elves move with him there but I could be mistaken.
@sashadomonji7569
@sashadomonji7569 6 ай бұрын
If i could be any character in the Tolkien world i would instantly choose Eöl. I've loved him since I first read The Silmarillion as a kid and I can most relate to him
@t.b743
@t.b743 Жыл бұрын
A Video of Turgon would be great! As always a fantastic video
@Thromash
@Thromash Жыл бұрын
Great work as always.
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 Жыл бұрын
Great video, they are a short but important part of the First Age tales!
@starksisghostdeini
@starksisghostdeini Жыл бұрын
the art in this video is amazing
@el_chico1313
@el_chico1313 Жыл бұрын
the elves committed acts of unprecedented greek tragedies yet valar forgave them EVERYTIME, but as soon as humans claim to see a little bit of valinor, they get their island sunken
@maglor2414
@maglor2414 4 ай бұрын
Because Valar, maiar and elves (and probably dwarves too) had to deal with each other until Dagor Dagorath, since none of them could truly be 'killed'. Meanwhile humans just can be killed and their souls would reach Eru.
@amarmendiratta8183
@amarmendiratta8183 2 күн бұрын
At least we are Eru's favorite
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 Жыл бұрын
Malekith: I'm the original Dark Elf Eol: Hold my mastercrafted weapons
@pokeyscorpion8224
@pokeyscorpion8224 Жыл бұрын
Dark elves, and elves in general as far as I know, likely originate from Germanic and Scandinavian folklore, existing thousands of years before either of those 😂
@MorwenWhyte
@MorwenWhyte Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of Eöl a few days ago, this feels like some sort of serendipity.
@indoctrinationtheory1468
@indoctrinationtheory1468 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I love the stories of the First Age. I must have read the Silmarillion at least a dozen times since childhood.
@xaviermcknight1510
@xaviermcknight1510 Жыл бұрын
impressive
@Cassie-oe8iu
@Cassie-oe8iu Жыл бұрын
Loved this video, great work 😊
@pongop
@pongop Жыл бұрын
This is so interesting to hear a different perspective on the Noldor and Middle Earth before vs after the light! And intriguing to think about what space is like in Tolkien's world. It's been a while since I read Silmarillion so I don't remember Eol well. Too bad he's a creep. Awesome video!
@caspianboi
@caspianboi Жыл бұрын
They went to and froing several times through Nandungortheb , enough to give even the closest families ptsd and problems, great video, thanks.
@Iamtherealvicky
@Iamtherealvicky Жыл бұрын
I really liked Maeglin but I was really shocked how he betrayed all of Gondolin 😢
@XiuFeanaro6
@XiuFeanaro6 Жыл бұрын
I mean, he was being tortured and plus he was showed what he desired so of course he took the deal.
@unclebounce1495
@unclebounce1495 Жыл бұрын
Why? he betrayed his father. betrayers betray. just because you condemn it in one instance and excuse it in another doesn't change the fact that betrayal is betrayal
@Novusod
@Novusod Жыл бұрын
@@unclebounce1495 Did he really betray his father or just bide his time to get revenge? Saying something at the time of his father's execution would have only gotten him killed. King Turgon was a moron and the one who was really responsible for the fall of Gondolin. You cannot just kill someone's father and expect them to be cool with it. Maeglin had to avenge his father. The honor codes of the first age demanded it. King Turgon should have seen it a mile away and executed Maeglin when he had the chance. OR if he was feeling merciful let both Maeglin and Eol go free. Either option would have been fine. Instead Turgon decided to split the difference between harshness and kindness by killing the father while sparing the son. Such folly sealed the fate of Gondolin.
@unclebounce1495
@unclebounce1495 Жыл бұрын
​@@Novusod Good points, but I still lean toward betrayal. After all, that is what gives the curse weight - the wrong doing (most curses need retributive substance mythically to have lasting power, but not always). Also, as I mentioned before, the son already expressed fanciful interests in the "green pastures" of the other elves. Lastly, he chose to go with his mother and follow her through many places where he could have resisted if he wanted to. and finally, after all that, when his father spoke up, he also remained silent. that's a lot of strikes against him to say he remained loyal to his father but was just "laying low" and "biding his time." I think he was short-sighted and naive and was lured by the greener pastures temptation and likely stories of "city-life" greatness by his mother. then when he gets there and realizes it's not so grand once the novelty wears off and instead has lots of restrictions and rules and obligations, he grows up and realizes why his rural-like father kept him away from the "civilized" urbanites. classic rural run-away to the city because it's got so much more "culture" until you realize it has more trash and grime and odor but culture is just roots and family tradition in either location. but you could be right. I suppose he could have been non-betrayal just supportive of his mother then trapped by Turgon and remained silent until revenge could be enacted. Just seem like a much more unlikely explanation for the events to me.
@jarihult3199
@jarihult3199 Жыл бұрын
@@Novusod Turgon should have killed his own kin? Now that, if anything, is against the honor codes of the first age.
@sandralomeli7007
@sandralomeli7007 Жыл бұрын
Awesome narrative, love it!
@UHollis
@UHollis Жыл бұрын
Perfect Timing!
@txcrewcut
@txcrewcut Жыл бұрын
this is awesome! thank you!
@shehansenanayaka3046
@shehansenanayaka3046 10 ай бұрын
LOTR and The Hobbit also the silmarillon are one of the best and brilliant story books ever on fantasy. Brilliant video. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos.
@ravenshadowz2343
@ravenshadowz2343 Жыл бұрын
We love listening to your channel.
@joaodenardi9075
@joaodenardi9075 Жыл бұрын
The rifts betwen Noldors and the other elfs are awesome to explore in the books, and I would love to see some of those in RoP, the Noldors are like an elitist branch with superior civilization skills, but they can be pretty routhless towards lesser elves, I belive the book give us elements to imagine the noldors like some aristocratics warriors who didnt care to others as they care for themselves, at least in the first age, and that narrative of Eol about them drawing frontiers and making war in other peoples land had some true in it, even if it is contradicted afterwards....
@aarraa
@aarraa Жыл бұрын
Whenever I come across your channel I binge watch everything 🤣 thank you for these videos ❤️
@bedlaskybedla6361
@bedlaskybedla6361 Жыл бұрын
Truly awesome narration of dialogue between Ëol and Turgon. You are really good at it!
@oscarliegeois8066
@oscarliegeois8066 Жыл бұрын
AMAZING story thanks !
@sauron3488
@sauron3488 Жыл бұрын
He lived alone in a dark forest and shunned all peoples but dwarves.
@feanor1865
@feanor1865 Жыл бұрын
No he had some followers elves that were similar to him
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
What a hateful rat
@voster77hh
@voster77hh Жыл бұрын
Typical Russian twen avoiding the draft in 2022
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
@@voster77hh 😆
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 Жыл бұрын
@@voster77hh lol run russian run
@Lljm90
@Lljm90 Жыл бұрын
They should make a mini series where each episode is a characters back story, they can even do villains
@dudusantosnutricionista5278
@dudusantosnutricionista5278 Жыл бұрын
I think that the Silmarillion would work great as animated series
@JoeQuake
@JoeQuake Жыл бұрын
Eol was an elf darkling, Of him the harpers never ever sing. The first whose glance was ever mean, To wife and son such cruelty seen.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 Жыл бұрын
is he the only dark elf?
@JoeQuake
@JoeQuake Жыл бұрын
@@jmgonzales7701 Looking at the "Index of Names" in The Silmarillion, it looks like the term Dark Elf has different meanings. In one meaning Dark Elf refers to all elves who did not take the Westward journey. In another sense the term Dark Elf is applied to Eol as a title. He "loved the night and the twilight under the stars".
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeQuake so he is the only dark elf? there is no sub race of elf?
@JoeQuake
@JoeQuake Жыл бұрын
@@jmgonzales7701 There are multiple races of elves. "Dark Elf" is a term applied to the group (or race) Tolkien named "Moriquendi". Eol is of this race. Some of the other names are Sindar, Noldor, Vanyar, Teleri, Nandor. There's a page in the back of The Silmarillion with a diagram of the different groupings/races.
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart Жыл бұрын
Well presented!
@kirandeepchakraborty7921
@kirandeepchakraborty7921 Жыл бұрын
First Age stories are always so good.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 Жыл бұрын
i wonder why we never started with the first age
@JACKAL98
@JACKAL98 Жыл бұрын
i swear you can make so many legendary movies from tolkiens lore.
@tjbmenick7263
@tjbmenick7263 Жыл бұрын
I really have wanted this video for a long time, ’tis really an intresting tale. Now, my top 1 video I would like to see is the tale of Aldarion and Erendis.
@georgesnakhle5408
@georgesnakhle5408 Жыл бұрын
Omg , i remember asking you on one of your livestreams if you are going to do a video about ëol the dark elf . And by the looks of it IT'S TIMEEEE!!! Thank you notr . I don't know if you are going to stumble upon my comment , but if you do i want you to know that you were the only one that reignited my love for the lore of Middle-earth , and again i can't thank you enough for this ❤ .
@stevea1708
@stevea1708 Жыл бұрын
I'm Learning a lot about the universe. I certainly wouldn't be able to keep track of everything. I appreciate the effort and passion you put making these videos. although I can't stand ROP or the showrunners. I am glad that there's someone like you giving them a fair shot. Keep up the good work.
@Halfwit_The_Brave
@Halfwit_The_Brave Жыл бұрын
Hey Steven A, I’d recommend reading the Silmarillion if you have the time. It’s not the easiest read, but if you are interested in Tolkiens world then it will have lots for you to enjoy.
@Tybold63
@Tybold63 Жыл бұрын
Somehow, I feel some odd sympathy för Eol being an outsider or even outcast. It would have been fairer to capture him and banish him back to his dark forest and home. Maybe he would not have stayed there but I don't know.. given him a second chance to repent.. Then again, I am perhaps just too forgiving on underdogs in fiction in general..
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
It's a hidden city for a reason
@KerronMcNab21
@KerronMcNab21 Жыл бұрын
Such good videos!
@dikigoros_tou_diavolou21
@dikigoros_tou_diavolou21 Жыл бұрын
very good job with subs!
@houseofjupiter1130
@houseofjupiter1130 6 ай бұрын
Honestly one of the most underrated character in tolkiens work.
@WereDictionary
@WereDictionary Жыл бұрын
I kept hearing AOL the dark company. Whose tale also ends in self-wrought tragedy.
@chrismeetswest
@chrismeetswest Жыл бұрын
Love this content. Going back through the Silmarillion currently. What program do you use to make these awesome graphics and videos?
@kirandeepchakraborty7921
@kirandeepchakraborty7921 Жыл бұрын
So much for Eol and his curse too.
@rankoorovic7904
@rankoorovic7904 Жыл бұрын
One of mu favorite stories from the Silmarilion.
@Sam-ig2jm
@Sam-ig2jm Жыл бұрын
Beautifully narrated. New story learned today thank you 👌
@daniellane3207
@daniellane3207 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos! Does anyone have a watching order of all the nerd of the rings videos? It's hard to watch them in an order where they all make sense. I would really appreciate it.
@user-vj6us1nn9q
@user-vj6us1nn9q 5 ай бұрын
Finally! A worthy character from Tolkien.
@ecthelionofthefountain8267
@ecthelionofthefountain8267 Жыл бұрын
I love your music. Where is it from? Eol is one of the most interestingly complex Elves in Tolkien's legendarium.
@tomervainstein7329
@tomervainstein7329 Жыл бұрын
Such a complex character with amazing lore!
@jacobhouse1521
@jacobhouse1521 Жыл бұрын
I hope you do a video on Maeglin in the near future.
@jaysgamingcorner8539
@jaysgamingcorner8539 Жыл бұрын
All of your videos are interesting but this one really caught my eye. I didn't know Tolkien wrote about dark elves. Having played fantasy MMOs for years, and still do every day, I always pick a dark elf. Or high elf. Hearing about Tolkien's depiction of dark elf is awesome. Keep up the great work.
@hawkname1234
@hawkname1234 Жыл бұрын
Tolkien's dark elves, the moriquendi, are the tribes that did not heed the call of the valar to summon them to Valinor. They are "dark" from lack of enlightenment/knowledge, not physical light.
@aminiqbal4907
@aminiqbal4907 Жыл бұрын
@@hawkname1234 bingo.
@Zoruagalaxy
@Zoruagalaxy Жыл бұрын
This is such an amazing story! I wish they made a live adaptation movie or series of Eol's life the same way they did the lord of the rings movies. ^.^
@Mentallect
@Mentallect Жыл бұрын
Maeglin was the Benedict Arnold of Elves.
@JayTeeGR
@JayTeeGR Жыл бұрын
The "Dark Elves" of pop culture are based more on Salvatore's vision (for example Drizzt do Urden).
@voster77hh
@voster77hh Жыл бұрын
Many drew from The Simarillion.
@maglor2414
@maglor2414 4 ай бұрын
Drows are based off dark Martians or smth
@jamiegregg9211
@jamiegregg9211 Жыл бұрын
wicked vid really enjoyed it Matt
@Jennagosu
@Jennagosu Жыл бұрын
well, regardless of what people tell around, Turgon's given choice was in no means righteous and certainly bad karma for Gondolin, it had immediate and long-term horrible consequences. Not only was Eöl a relative, but also a subject of Thingol whom he kinda acknowledged and vice-versa
@CalogeroPeritore
@CalogeroPeritore Жыл бұрын
I never understand a thing: if in Eä there's not a thing like our "outher space", from where came Eöl's meteorite?
@vitorschultz9892
@vitorschultz9892 Жыл бұрын
Hey there, I was wondering if there was a playlist with the many songs you've used throughout your videos. I'm specially interested in the one you used for many of your outros like in the Complete Travels of Elendil and Galadriel.
@Cesar_gz833
@Cesar_gz833 Жыл бұрын
Love the vids u should definitely make a vid on king thingol tho one of the best characters in my opinion
@itayshorek6872
@itayshorek6872 Жыл бұрын
great one
@S3AL1992
@S3AL1992 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@MadCityBells
@MadCityBells Жыл бұрын
Goodness! These videos just keep getting better & better 🙏🏻
@freebird6591
@freebird6591 Жыл бұрын
Ahh so this is where the inspiration for 'Nightblood' comes from... Nice one, sando ha.
@Iamtherealvicky
@Iamtherealvicky Жыл бұрын
Please do a video about Maeglin next
@EmelieWaldken
@EmelieWaldken Жыл бұрын
In a French-speaking book series by regretted Pierre Bottero, in the fictional world of Gwendalavir, there is a dark, bendable, thin yet super-resistant metal, vargelite. Now I know where the inspiration for it came from !
@skytrailer2563
@skytrailer2563 Жыл бұрын
This should have been adapted then the rings of flounder
@cemitchell6496
@cemitchell6496 Жыл бұрын
Well dang. I read The Silmarillion over the summer and I admit I probably glazed over some of it. I remember some of Eol but apparently not enough. Well, guess I need to put it back on the "to read again bookcase."
@doravee
@doravee 2 ай бұрын
He was the first non LOTR elf I noticed years ago. I was looking for "Dark Elf" because I was wondering if they existed on ME. Welp, it's just him. He remains the most fascinating Silmarillion elf to this day and that's even after finally noticing Feanor.
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