Yes!!!! FINALLY, I pronounced something right! 😂😂

@@ErinsAudioCorner Aaaaaaactually not quite, sorry ^^ Your pronounciation of "Neu" is spot on, but the "mann" is actually like the "mun" in "munching" or "mundane".

​@@wagayuuri9397not true

In German language, "neu" is like "noy", so correct, but the "mann" is not "mun" but more like "mahn", with an open "ah". But Erin was close enough.

"Hello...Neumann" Seinfeld :D

Man, I’m trying. Thank you!

Glad it was helpful!

I appreciate your input and will consider it. As for the gate, I increased the threshold for this video because my daughter and her friends were in the next room over and were having way too much fun making crafts. I’ll make sure to readjust before my next video. 👍

@@ErinsAudioCorner Cool, looking forward to what's to come! Btw I think it's mostly about the attack time of the gate probably. When I do live sound, I keep the attack time of the vocal mic gates at around 10ms, which makes it nicely transparent.

@@ErinsAudioCornerIf you have an nvidia gpu, consider their free Broadcast software. It’s a pretty decent real time noise reducer. FWIW, I didn’t hear any problem with your gate.

Very welcome.

Glad you enjoyed it.

They were supposed to send me some. I'll need to follow up.

​​@@ErinsAudioCorneryeah! I got them (the Iloud MTMs) after a couple of Kali LP6s, due to lack of space. They sound really nice (when used in the 50hz mode or more) and you can do some room correction with the proprietary microphone but I hear some port noise and they lack headroom, so I was thinking to switch for a pair of the little kalis+sub or go all in for the Neumanns

I wanna hear his subjective impressions on the Sierra LX. I love the idea of a bookshelf that has solid output down to 40 Hz and their Nearfield scanner measurements show it to be damn near perfect in room response. For $1500 they seem like they would be serious giant killers.

@@MechAdvbuy them and send to erin.

buy a pair then send to erin. but there’s klipple measurements on these from ascend..

@@chinmeysway Ascend likes Aaron, they will send him whatever he asks for. They speak the same language

Thanks!

@mattholland 315 This is pretty much what the Klippel's "Estimated In-Room Response" result attempts to predict, and does quite well. Note that it is in relation to a speaker's response in a typical room, and not nearfield, which is generally what a On-Axis measurement provides. Another thing that matters in terms of speaker distance to the side-walls and other boundaries in your room is the Time Arrival in milliseconds (ms) of each of those reflections in relation to the direct sound at your listening position. The ratio and levels can be either beneficial or detrimental in regards to spectral balance as well as clarity/intelligibility and imaging/focus/soundstage cues. Do an Online search for "Aural Exchange - Understanding Sound Reflections" as a quick reference, but as Erin has previously recommended, the latest edition of Floyd Toole's "Sound Reproduction: The Acoustics and Psychoacoustics of Loudspeakers and Rooms" book is a more in-depth and definitive reference.

Original KH120?

They recently released surround support for MA-1 that includes multisub but it’s an additional fee.

@@Hexspa yeah, I’ve used it. It’s okayish. Quite limited config options. Not quite to the drag & drop level of Genelec’s SAM. Granted it’s half the price.

You're happy with miniDSP? I see you're using that. Have you tried multisub optimizer? I just have one sub, the Yamaha HS system, and use EQAPO and that seems to work pretty well for one listening position.@@ctcwired

My friend is the US rep for their car audio division. 🙃

@@ErinsAudioCorner Any chance of Casey hooking you up with the $54k Morel ''FAT LADY'' home tower speakers to test???

Switch highs to -2 db or whatever is available?

@@lukabosnjak3829 Thanks for the tip -2db treble shelf alone didn’t cut it however a combination of this and digital eq to trim down 500hz (room mode) and 1 to 3khz range really helped!

@MRPC5 Were you using a separate subwoofer? I've owned the OG Neumann KH120AG since 2013 for use as secondary nearfield monitors in my home studio, i.e. for their intended use. In regards to what they are...very small speakers with JUST 5.25" midwoofers, the bass that they produce is impressive, especially in that it is clean, articulate bass response and not one-note wonders. I really don't understand what people are expecting in regards to the BASS response and level when using relatively tiny speakers with just 5.25" midwoofer drivers, especially in midfield to farfield scenarios and for A/V or HT use! There is just NO WAY around Physics..."there is no replacement for displacement" (as in "Cone Area"). IMO, the bass extension and level is also extremely impressive from the diminutive size of the KH80 and considering the use of tiny 4" midwoofers which have exponentially less cone area (Sd) compared to the 5.25" in the KH 120 series!

@@bbfoto7248 Reviews, measurements, and user accounts I saw made me think these somehow bent the laws of of physics. I know it's silly but people talk about these like the second coming and I'm just warning people to not get carried away like I did.

@SparK17299 Contact Adam and ask for them to loan a pair of the a7v to Erin. The more people who do this, the more they will be convinced to do so.

@@bbfoto7248will do so

Dammit! I accidentally deleted it out! Crap!!!! I had very briefly shown them but apparently I deleted that little section on accident. Sorry. You can find the data on my site, though. I'm currently in the process of uploading it so give it a few minutes. With it you can see that at the higher output (96dB) is not good. But, luckily it's only really higher in the midrange and is 2nd order deiminated so less likely to be an issue. And given these are likely going to be listened in the nearfield (as opposed to my other speaker reviews that are listened much further) 96dB at 1 meter is quite loud.

@@ErinsAudioCorner Thank you for your quick and sincere reply. I will check your website.

Gerald, you haven’t watched my previous two videos because I talked a lot about soundstage. Not so much with this speaker because nearfield doesn’t have a lot of soundstage. Look up apparent source width. You’ll thank me later.

@@ErinsAudioCorner Interesting perspective, as near field listening has a larger soundstage in my experience as the room interactions don’t distort the direct sound, so the source material is better represented. But hey, we all view things differently.

Gerald, maybe you missed Erin's recent reviews of the KEF Blade 2 Meta and PS Audio FR10 tower speakers? I think that Erin sometimes doesn't bother going into deep detail on some things every time unless those particular aspects are "bad" in a noticeable or specific way. I'm pretty sure he kind of "lumped in" the imaging/soundstage metrics when he said that...unless there are some major/obvious issues (such as a wild imbalance in FR between the Left & Right speakers), most NEARFIELD speakers will perform similarly because you are mitigating nearly all of the variables created by the effects of the ROOM... [paraphrased]. From personal experience with Neumann's studio monitor lineup, you can generally EXPECT excellent imaging & soundstage performance across the board, at least when used for their intended purpose. It's sort of "a given" with Neumann. ;) I've been using the OG Neumann KH120AG studio monitors since 2013 as the secondary/small monitors in my home studio setup and I've demo'd the others. They all perform really well in regards to imaging and soundstage metrics (including depth and height), and my KH120 present incredibly detailed, pinpoint, and focused images with excellent "air" or space between each element (when that is captured or mixed into the recording). One example is Tears For Fears "Woman In Chains". It's a dense mix and everything has its own place and space in the soundstage whereas lesser speakers tend to smear and muddy/mix everything together with less separation and definition. And there is also a clear separation in both the Depth AND Height between Roland's lead vocal and Oleta Adam's background vocal that literally floats in space well above and behind Roland. A LOT of systems do not reveal that! The midbass & bass IMAGING is also excellent in tracks such as the intro in Malia & Boris Blank's "Celestial Echo" track from the "Convergence" album. The KH80 are just a "mini-me" design of the KH120, so I would expect nothing less...except a bit less bass extension and SPL. It's actually incredible what they achieve with a FOUR INCH midwoofer! That being said, they may not be to your liking because they ARE Analytical and do not "color" the sound when properly set up. They are designed to be an analytical tool, not for everyday HiFi listening enjoyment. But when speakers are Neutral, low distortion, and dynamic, you hear everything as it is in the recording (for better or worse). If you were wanting to demo or try one of the Neumann line in particular, I would opt for the KH 150, as IMO it is the most well rounded, and "better" than its larger KH310 sibling (again, IMO). Cheers

Hello, Jerry!

It’s a DSP enabled speaker. 👍

I have the Troubadour on the Klippel at this very moment. Listening is done already.

​@@ErinsAudioCorner Troubadour, nice! There's physical characteristics that I'm really curious how they'll manifest into Klippel data. - verticals due to the disparate drive units - horizontals due to three elements; 1.) lack of mid-woofer flush mounting 2.) asymmetry in baffle width 3.) side-by-side drivers I know, ate up ... but I'm curious nonetheless. Many if the Tekton offerings are so compelling ... really dig their unique approaches.

@@FOH3663 Same curiosity here due to their unique "design elements".

@@bbfoto7248 Yes!

@@ErinsAudioCorner did you take the tekton video down cause people were being dicks on that one? tekton must have a cult like following they have great reputation among the audio community.you didn't say anything bad about them you liked them just wasn't your kind of speaker cause it had a little bump in the midrange. like whats the big deal?

Yeah somewhat interesting because Recording/Tracking/Capturing a particular instrument or vocal with a pleasing tonality or timbre and Reproducing it are two different things. But Neumann is very much a science & technology based company, and their microphone capsules are speaker transducers "in reverse". It is more so the Tube & Electronics combined with the capsules that give each mic its unique sonic character. But Neumann took over Klein+Hummel's studio monitor product line instead of letting it die off. Hence the "KH" prefix in Neumann's studio monitor product line as you most likely know. The Klein+Hummel O 300 and their other models were loved by many but suffered from power compression/were dynamically limited, and the amplifiers failed often and Sennheiser would not repair them or even release the schematics to independent repair facilities. Neumann improved them in quite a bit in nearly every aspect with the KH 310, but with seemingly very mixed "love/hate" reviews.

Beep boop 🤖

@@ErinsAudioCorner 🌩🌩

what?

TF are you talking about... What should we focus on... The spices that make something sound lush or any other audiophile nonsense talk?

True, but IF you want/need something SMALL with the performance to back it up, I don't think you'll find many that will compete, especially with their built-in DSP and microphone-based room calibration/correction.

Obviously, LOL!

@jasonkillsformomy The KH420 is considerably larger and intended for more Mid-Field use (1.5m-3m or 5’-9’, such as in ATMOS systems), and therefore the Acoustics of the ROOM will influence the response to a larger degree. The DSP and Calibration will be used to offset or correct for those Room effects.

@@bbfoto7248 I know all this. You misunderstood my post.

I’d be happy to if someone wants to send me a pair.

@@ErinsAudioCorner I’d be happy to save money for them 😅. Neumanns are really good. At this moment I’m listening cheapest actives from Dynaudio - BM5 MKIII and I hope that someday you’ll test them too. But I will not send them to you from Europe 🤷‍♂️🤓.

@jasonkillsformomy In order to achieve "good" low-end response without compromising the HF via IMD, it will need to be a 3-way design which might end up being too large for some "desktops" unless you create a subwoofer/satellite system as in the Kali IN-UNF.

@@bbfoto7248 That's common sense. No need to write it.

@@jasonkillsformomy You made a blanket statement as a matter of fact with your inclusion of "always" being best. I'm just countering that there are No "BEST" desktop nearfield speakers or otherwise. It DEPENDS on one's specific use case scenario. Cheers

@@bbfoto7248 Coax is the best because sitting close to a multiple driver speaker where the tweeter and mid isn't a point source isn't a good idea. How you handle the lf is irrelevant.